*2014-15 Hot Stove Thread: The Padres won it I guess (1 Viewer)

[Capella]

Who died

 

[Northern Voice]

Who died

fun

 

[rodg12]

Dang. Rough news!!!

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Oof. Was going to target him heavily.

 

[Limp Ditka]

During a bunt drill? I guess you have to make sure he would have been ready for those 4-5 ABs he would have seen this year

 

[Northern Voice]

During a bunt drill? I guess you have to make sure he would have been ready for those 4-5 ABs he would have seen this year

Bunt fielding drill, but still.

 

[Limp Ditka]

During a bunt drill? I guess you have to make sure he would have been ready for those 4-5 ABs he would have seen this year

Bunt fielding drill, but still.

Yeah. Rotoworld blurb only said bunt drill and I assumed. That makes more sense, but still sucks just the same

 

[Good Posting Judge]

He was actually using a cordless drill and slipped.

 

[Eephus]

Early returns from the Yasmany Tomas experiment at 3B aren't encouraging.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Early returns from the Yasmany Tomas experiment at 3B aren't encouraging.

Hit a homer though! (But Lamb hit two)

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

@JonHeymanCBS: #LAAngels still hold rights to just-retired QB Jake locker but don't plan to pursue him.

 

[PIK95]

Who got hurt in bunt drill?

 

[shadyridr]

Who got hurt in bunt drill?

Stroman

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Cliff Lee got hurt taking a nap. Eephus inspired injury?

 

[Eephus]

Cliff Lee got hurt taking a nap. Eephus inspired injury?

Always stretch

 

[Grahamburn]

Soler, Baez, and Bryant with back to back to back dingers off Trevor Bauer yesterday. Cubs' fans unite!

 

[Limp Ditka]

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS - 2h

Will Middlebrooks expected to miss a few days of @Padres camp after the death of his older brother Windell

 

[pantagrapher]

NL DH trolling starting early this season.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

NL DH trolling starting early this season.

I wonder if MLB would ever consider two-platoon rules if scoring keeps trending down. Keep the nine-man batting order and nine defenders, but drop the requirement of having to play eight guys on offense and defense.

Of course there would still be two-way players - those guys would become even more valuable - but a team could start the game with their best nine hitters and best defensive players, provided they have 4-5 guys in the top nine for both categories.

 

[RnR]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game? We could have robots be the pitchers, too.

 

[the moops]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game?

Pitchers putting up .300 OPS is not a beautiful thing. David Ortiz hitting bombs is.

 

[RnR]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game?

Pitchers putting up .300 OPS is not a beautiful thing. David Ortiz hitting bombs is.

I was referring to Bruce's proposal. The DH in the NL is inevitable.

 

[pantagrapher]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game?

Pitchers putting up .300 OPS is not a beautiful thing. David Ortiz hitting bombs is.

There's one Ortiz. Imagine how watered down DH pool gets if you double the size. You'll be watching Tuffy Gosewisch step in four times a game. Personally, I'd rather see Bartolo up there getting his hacks.

 

[Eephus]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game?

Pitchers putting up .300 OPS is not a beautiful thing. David Ortiz hitting bombs is.

There's one Ortiz. Imagine how watered down DH pool gets if you double the size. You'll be watching Tuffy Gosewisch step in four times a game. Personally, I'd rather see Bartolo up there getting his hacks.

The Diamondbacks have a natural DH in Mark Trumbo. They may discover they spent $70M on another in Yasmany Tomas. There are always a bunch of AAAA bats who can hit at above replacement level.

The sample size isn't huge but NL teams lose inter-league away games at a disproportionate rate. This shouldn't really matter if all NL teams play the same number of games but a loss is still a loss. I'm a NL fan and there's not much better than seeing someone like Madison Bumgarner hit a HR but I suspect the league will adopt the DH within the next decade.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

 

[Grahamburn]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game?

Pitchers putting up .300 OPS is not a beautiful thing. David Ortiz hitting bombs is.

There's one Ortiz. Imagine how watered down DH pool gets if you double the size. You'll be watching Tuffy Gosewisch step in four times a game. Personally, I'd rather see Bartolo up there getting his hacks.

A professional hitter stepping in there 2-3 times more a game is so much better than the once in a while unintentional comedy of some bozo pitcher falling down on a bunt attempt or flailing away at 96.

 

[Eephus]

Chris Capuano left today's game with a quad strain. The Yankees' SP5 battle is now between garbage, trash and rubbish.

 

[rodg12]

Chris Capuano left today's game with a quad strain. The Yankees' SP5 battle is now between garbage, trash and rubbish.

This might be too kind.

 

[shadyridr]

Chris Capuano left today's game with a quad strain. The Yankees' SP5 battle is now between garbage, trash and rubbish.

It was before his injury

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

And you still have to adjust some, because your typical NL pitcher is still a much, much better hitter than your average male of the same age.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Absolutely. There's a lot of MLB pitchers who were outfielders or shortstops at lower levels and hit cleanup. Heck, the guy who pitched the first four innings for the Cardinals today played a lot of 1B in college but won't be able to touch most MLB pitching.

 

[dparker713]

Why must we bastardize a beautiful game?

Pitchers putting up .300 OPS is not a beautiful thing. David Ortiz hitting bombs is.

I was referring to Bruce's proposal. The DH in the NL is inevitable.

The hell it is.

 

[Limp Ditka]

You sitting in on a lot of owner's meetings and CBA negotiations, dpark?

 

[Annyong]

You sitting in on a lot of owner's meetings and CBA negotiations, dpark?

I sat in on a couple this week. NL managers don't sant to pay DH's. They'd rather pay another pitcher

 

[Limp Ditka]

rotoworld

Albert Pujols - 1B - Angels

Albert Pujols went 1-for-3, raising his Cactus League average to .462

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Interesting article/quote by Clark: http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2015-03-10/national-league-dh-designated-hitter-tony-clark-rob-manfred-david-ortiz-red-sox-jon-lester-cubs

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

A professional hitter stepping in there 2-3 times more a game is so much better than the once in a while unintentional comedy of some bozo pitcher falling down on a bunt attempt or flailing away at 96.

There is something aesthetically pleasing about turning to a random game, not recognizing the batter, but knowing that it is a pitcher. Holding the bat with the label pointing the wrong way, or starting their swing before the pitcher starts his windup, are telltale signs. And if they manage to get on base, the requirement to wear a jacket even if it's eighty degrees; the need for three hits before they can score. If the inning ends with the pitcher on base, the infielders are slow to get into position to give the pitcher a breather, as if he had just run the Boston Marathon, rather than ninety feet.

 

[dparker713]

You sitting in on a lot of owner's meetings and CBA negotiations, dpark?

Inevitable is the collapse of the sun, entropy, and death. The DH coming to the national league is hardly inevitable. What is the upside for the owners? They theoretically increase costs and will absolutely alienate a significant percentage of their paying customers to gain a marginal increase in offense.

 

[jfranco77]

You sitting in on a lot of owner's meetings and CBA negotiations, dpark?

Inevitable is the collapse of the sun, entropy, and death. The DH coming to the national league is hardly inevitable. What is the upside for the owners? They theoretically increase costs and will absolutely alienate a significant percentage of their paying customers to gain a marginal increase in offense.

Well they probably get a concession from the players union. Screwing over pre-arb players or international draft or free car washes for the commissioner or something

 

[TobiasFunke]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

And you still have to adjust some, because your typical NL pitcher is still a much, much better hitter than your average male of the same age.

The best argument against the DH is that the people who are for it have gotten so used to watching baseball largely without fascinating strategic decisions that they think the debate is just about watching pitchers hit vs watching David Ortiz hit.

 

[pantagrapher]

Moncanda taking grounders at 2B today. Because apparently 3B wasn't hilarious enough.

 

[Eephus]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

And you still have to adjust some, because your typical NL pitcher is still a much, much better hitter than your average male of the same age.

The best argument against the DH is that the people who are for it have gotten so used to watching baseball largely without fascinating strategic decisions that they think the debate is just about watching pitchers hit vs watching David Ortiz hit.

Automatically asking the pitcher to sacrifice isn't all that fascinating.

 

[Eephus]

Moncanda taking grounders at 2B today. Because apparently 3B wasn't hilarious enough.

Who?

 

[RnR]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

And you still have to adjust some, because your typical NL pitcher is still a much, much better hitter than your average male of the same age.

The best argument against the DH is that the people who are for it have gotten so used to watching baseball largely without fascinating strategic decisions that they think the debate is just about watching pitchers hit vs watching David Ortiz hit.

Automatically asking the pitcher to sacrifice isn't all that fascinating.

Pretty sure he's referring to the double switches, decisions on when to pull the starter for a pinch hitter, etc.

 

[Eephus]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

And you still have to adjust some, because your typical NL pitcher is still a much, much better hitter than your average male of the same age.

The best argument against the DH is that the people who are for it have gotten so used to watching baseball largely without fascinating strategic decisions that they think the debate is just about watching pitchers hit vs watching David Ortiz hit.

Automatically asking the pitcher to sacrifice isn't all that fascinating.

Pretty sure he's referring to the double switches, decisions on when to pull the starter for a pinch hitter, etc.

Lao Tzu wouldn't be impressed

 

[the moops]

Moncanda taking grounders at 2B today. Because apparently 3B wasn't hilarious enough.

 

[RnR]

I like having pitchers hit, because it gives you an idea of how much of a dip#### a normal human being is going to look like against major league pitching.

This is the most compelling argument I've heard against the DH in a long time.

And you still have to adjust some, because your typical NL pitcher is still a much, much better hitter than your average male of the same age.

The best argument against the DH is that the people who are for it have gotten so used to watching baseball largely without fascinating strategic decisions that they think the debate is just about watching pitchers hit vs watching David Ortiz hit.

Automatically asking the pitcher to sacrifice isn't all that fascinating.

Pretty sure he's referring to the double switches, decisions on when to pull the starter for a pinch hitter, etc.

Lao Tzu wouldn't be impressed

Well, in that case...

 

[TobiasFunke]

I'll play the role of miserable curmudgeon on this Will Ferrell thing ...

He's doing this for "cancer awareness"? Really? Who the #### isn't aware of cancer?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Lao Tzu's probably too busy taking grounders at SS today to even take notice let alone be impressed