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biju
Footballguy
Everyone in the stands do too, and I almost wish he hadn't taken that one for 60 yards because then the upside wouldn't be visible at all. I would sacrifice about 51 other players before Earl so I don't like the idea of adding more opportunities for him to be injured.
Besides, based on the play so far I don't know why we *need* the additional yardage on punt returns. Right now it looks like we could score from any field position.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Justin Britt, RT, -5.1
Breakdown: The second round rookie is the front runner to be the starting right tackle this year, but was not ready to take on the likes of Lamarr Houston, Jeremiah Ratliff and Lance Briggs. While he didn’t allow a sack or hit, he allowed a lot of pressure. He struggled with defensive linemen going inside of him, as well as blocks on the second level.
Signature Stat: Over the first two weeks of the preseason, only one offensive tackle allowed more than six pressures. In this game Britt allowed seven.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... on-week-3/
I am just not a fan so far.
I liked Breno.
Breakdown: The second round rookie is the front runner to be the starting right tackle this year, but was not ready to take on the likes of Lamarr Houston, Jeremiah Ratliff and Lance Briggs. While he didn’t allow a sack or hit, he allowed a lot of pressure. He struggled with defensive linemen going inside of him, as well as blocks on the second level.
Signature Stat: Over the first two weeks of the preseason, only one offensive tackle allowed more than six pressures. In this game Britt allowed seven.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... on-week-3/
I am just not a fan so far.
I liked Breno.
Ryan Swope's Pro Career
Footballguy
I don't see how anyone can beat this team. Unless there is a major injury to a star, this team looks like it could win 16 regular season games.
Not a fan that Earl is returning punts, as seems to be the consensus. I wish Paul Richardson would have worked out back there, having him and Percy as a double-whammy return group would be absolutely beautiful.
Not a fan that Earl is returning punts, as seems to be the consensus. I wish Paul Richardson would have worked out back there, having him and Percy as a double-whammy return group would be absolutely beautiful.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
biju
Footballguy
It's tough in today's NFL climate to call anyone unbeatable. Having said that, I'm not sure there is a team more capable of it than this team. This doesn't mean I think it will happen, but rather I would give them the best chance of the team today of doing so.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
They are are a great team. No doubt.
biju
Footballguy
A few thoughts as we head into the final preseason game and the starters are likely to sit entirely.
- I get that it's preseason, but I'm highly optimistic based on the offensive output so far. Russell looks like he's in command of that offense and has improved his pre-snap reads significantly. Having a healthy Harvin seems to be causing issues for the other teams as well. And while there isn't any heavy scheming right now and only real concern comes from our RT position (I think the O-line--particularly Carpenter and Sweezy--has looked very good otherwise) and I expect Zach Miller to help out on that side often. But as it stands right now the starting offense has had 12 drives with 8 ending in TDs, 3 FG attempts (with one miss from 53 yards out), and 1 punt (first series against Denver and also missing 3 starting O-linemen, Lynch, Harvin). This includes TD drives of 90 yards, 74 yards, 62 yards, 67 yards, 61 yards, 89 yards, and 83 yards. So much for that "short field TD" narrative...
- I have some concern about the D-line depth. I haven't seen Scruggs, Hill, or Williams make enough of an impact so far that makes me think the loss of McDonald won't be an issue. On the other hand, I think Schofield has looked great and I'm happy the Giants felt some buyers remorse--I suspect they're currently having "Buyer's Remorse" remorse...
- Getting down to 53 is going to be tough. I'm hoping there are a few guys (such as Pryor) who we can trade for future draft capital.
- We've come out of preseason without significant injury and gotten healthy overall. Thank you football gods.
- I wish Wagner and Irvin could have been back for that 3rd game so they could get some time in, but we're very deep at LB right now and it hasn't been an area of concern yet. It's worth noting we're going to lose LB depth next off-season so some of these younger guys will need to be kept on the team. I expect Toomer and Coyle to be here once the dust settles. I wish Farwell could make it but I don't see it happening.
- No holding calls against the starting secondary. So much for the "Legion of Boom" rule. Notice how the teams who are complaining have gone from "they get away with it every play" to "thanks Seattle, now we get called for it on every play". I guess they shouldn't have complained.
- I get that it's preseason, but I'm highly optimistic based on the offensive output so far. Russell looks like he's in command of that offense and has improved his pre-snap reads significantly. Having a healthy Harvin seems to be causing issues for the other teams as well. And while there isn't any heavy scheming right now and only real concern comes from our RT position (I think the O-line--particularly Carpenter and Sweezy--has looked very good otherwise) and I expect Zach Miller to help out on that side often. But as it stands right now the starting offense has had 12 drives with 8 ending in TDs, 3 FG attempts (with one miss from 53 yards out), and 1 punt (first series against Denver and also missing 3 starting O-linemen, Lynch, Harvin). This includes TD drives of 90 yards, 74 yards, 62 yards, 67 yards, 61 yards, 89 yards, and 83 yards. So much for that "short field TD" narrative...
- I have some concern about the D-line depth. I haven't seen Scruggs, Hill, or Williams make enough of an impact so far that makes me think the loss of McDonald won't be an issue. On the other hand, I think Schofield has looked great and I'm happy the Giants felt some buyers remorse--I suspect they're currently having "Buyer's Remorse" remorse...
- Getting down to 53 is going to be tough. I'm hoping there are a few guys (such as Pryor) who we can trade for future draft capital.
- We've come out of preseason without significant injury and gotten healthy overall. Thank you football gods.
- I wish Wagner and Irvin could have been back for that 3rd game so they could get some time in, but we're very deep at LB right now and it hasn't been an area of concern yet. It's worth noting we're going to lose LB depth next off-season so some of these younger guys will need to be kept on the team. I expect Toomer and Coyle to be here once the dust settles. I wish Farwell could make it but I don't see it happening.
- No holding calls against the starting secondary. So much for the "Legion of Boom" rule. Notice how the teams who are complaining have gone from "they get away with it every play" to "thanks Seattle, now we get called for it on every play". I guess they shouldn't have complained.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
The Seattle offense has appeared unstoppable and the pessimist in me just assumes because it is preseason but they look on a new level compared to last year.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
6th toughest SOS (based on 2013 win%), 3rd toughest road schedule. Too early to take anything for granted, but this season should be FUN 
First 3 games are against 2013 playoff teams (two of which we JUST played in the preseason
) and then the way too early BYE week 4. Schedule makers didn't do the defending champs any favors
First 3 games are against 2013 playoff teams (two of which we JUST played in the preseason
) and then the way too early BYE week 4. Schedule makers didn't do the defending champs any favors
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Hawks are going to be a top 3 offense this year.
biju
Footballguy
The schedule isn't very nice in some ways. But if the Cardinals and 49ers aren't in a playoff push (I don't think the Cards will be and the 49ers have a 25% chance of falling apart this year) they might just be deflated enough to let those games slide. The middle of the schedule looks pretty soft to me (@Redskins, Cowboys, @Rams, @Panthers, Raiders, Giants, @Chiefs) and although there are two playoff teams in there I think the Panthers and Chiefs both outplayed their ability last season. The only game of that stretch that really bugs me is the Rams, who always play us really tough.6th toughest SOS (based on 2013 win%), 3rd toughest road schedule. Too early to take anything for granted, but this season should be FUN
First 3 games are against 2013 playoff teams (two of which we JUST played in the preseason
That leaves the first three games. I'm not worried about any of these games honestly, but I don't necessarily expect to win all three. It's a tough stretch but it will help that we have two of these at home. I think if everyone stays relatively healthy this is a 12-4 to 14-2 season. It's not totally out of the question though to win the first 10 games, but just the same we could have 3 losses during that same span even if health isn't a factor.
I'm cautiously with ITS right now as well. Obviously we haven't seen a regular season game but it has that feeling of the 2005 offense where it you expect them to put something on the board each drive. You mix that with this defense and it's a repeat.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The "America's Game" on the 2013 Seahawks is premiering on NFLN now.
I wonder if they'll mention Sherman at all.
I wonder if they'll mention Sherman at all.
proninja
Footballguy
The next month or two without Jeremy Lane and Tharold Simon could be a little rough. Already down Browner and Thurmond from last year.
Fortunately, it seems like the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL by a bigger margin than Lane and Simon. Something to watch out for, especially week 3 though.
Fortunately, it seems like the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL by a bigger margin than Lane and Simon. Something to watch out for, especially week 3 though.
MG345
Footballguy
Burley looked decent in his handful of snaps. He was getting pretty good pub out of Indy before Seattle traded for him.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
You guys happen to know offhand what percentage of snaps Wilson was under center? Just curious. Thinking back, it didn't seem like very often.
biju
Footballguy
Although it was only Dallas, SF still won. Their run D didn't look particularly impressive but I think people estimating their demise (including myself) are probably wrong.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
This experiment has ended. PC said today that it will be Bryan Walters going forward. ET and ADB will return punts in some situations.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000392605/article/pete-carroll-takes-earl-thomas-off-punt-returns
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proninja
Footballguy
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
Never expected them to go undefeated. Someone spouting that nonsense is either fishing or just a tool.
Tough matchup today for three main reasons IMO:
1. San Diego offense is geared to work the ball methodically down the field. I believe they led the league last year in extended drives (10+ plays, or something like that). Seattle is designed to stop the big play. Overall the defense is simple. Keep it all in front of you and tackle well. They kept it all in front of them, but didn't tackle well.
2. The heat was a killer for the defense. Combined with their lack of ability to get off the field on third down and you have a recipe for disaster. I remember at some point late in the game the time of possession was nearly 3 to 1 in favor of S.D. Making matter worse the offense was playing from behind. They had two scoring drives that totalled about 6 minutes. Defense had to trot back on the field right away. More thoughts on this later.
3. Wright and Chancellor both got torched by Gates multiple times. Partially a tip of the cap to Gates and Rivers. They just made some big plays when the coverage looked solid.
Reasons for optimism:
1. Few can hussle like Russell. How many Seattle fans headed into the fourth quarter with that good feeling just knowing Russell would keep them in it? Sure, they lost today, but I still believe in Russell. Damn, that's a good feeling looking into the future.
2. Offense looked dynamic and potent again. I'm still encouraged by their ability to score in many ways.
Question:
Are the changes on offense leading to an overall problem for the chemistry of how the offense and defense compliment one another? I loved that Seattle had an overall team philosophy of winning the time of possession and playing good defense over the past few seasons. I think they could've ran the ball a lot more and possessed the ball today to give the defense a breather, but scored so freaking fast. That's a tough call. In the end they just looked gassed and couldn't get off the field. Would love to hear some opinions on this one.
Tough matchup today for three main reasons IMO:
1. San Diego offense is geared to work the ball methodically down the field. I believe they led the league last year in extended drives (10+ plays, or something like that). Seattle is designed to stop the big play. Overall the defense is simple. Keep it all in front of you and tackle well. They kept it all in front of them, but didn't tackle well.
2. The heat was a killer for the defense. Combined with their lack of ability to get off the field on third down and you have a recipe for disaster. I remember at some point late in the game the time of possession was nearly 3 to 1 in favor of S.D. Making matter worse the offense was playing from behind. They had two scoring drives that totalled about 6 minutes. Defense had to trot back on the field right away. More thoughts on this later.
3. Wright and Chancellor both got torched by Gates multiple times. Partially a tip of the cap to Gates and Rivers. They just made some big plays when the coverage looked solid.
Reasons for optimism:
1. Few can hussle like Russell. How many Seattle fans headed into the fourth quarter with that good feeling just knowing Russell would keep them in it? Sure, they lost today, but I still believe in Russell. Damn, that's a good feeling looking into the future.
2. Offense looked dynamic and potent again. I'm still encouraged by their ability to score in many ways.
Question:
Are the changes on offense leading to an overall problem for the chemistry of how the offense and defense compliment one another? I loved that Seattle had an overall team philosophy of winning the time of possession and playing good defense over the past few seasons. I think they could've ran the ball a lot more and possessed the ball today to give the defense a breather, but scored so freaking fast. That's a tough call. In the end they just looked gassed and couldn't get off the field. Would love to hear some opinions on this one.
Tau837
Footballguy
I actually thought the Seahawks were likely to go undefeated, and I wasn't fishing or being a tool. I posted at some point that they remind me of the 1985 Bears, the most dominant team I can recall watching in my time watching the NFL (since early 80s). (Yes, I realize those Bears lost a game.)
As for confidence in Wilson, I was sitting at the game 100% sure that he was going to march Seattle down the field in the last 3 minutes for a game winning TD. So I agree with that point.
My question is why did Harvin not play more? He was back on every kickoff, had the 51 yard TD run (though he stepped out), and I think had just 1 target. That was a big surprise.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I had no problem with the offense today....the defense had an off day. I wish we had a bit more of a pass rush. I also think they kept them on the field. At the end of the day you have to tip your cap to the chargers today. Despite the defense playing bad we were still in it at the end.
biju
Footballguy
Biggest issue is only giving the RBs 8 carries. I had this conversation over at FG too and most people said it was the situation, but they weren't far enough down to abandon the run game at really any point. Besides, if you don't run you can't effectively use the play-action effectively.
The Harvin fumble just killed us offensively. We were matching them (I think it was 10-7 at that point) and if we had another long drive then it might have given the defense a little rest. Add that into having a very quick TD to get us to 14 and having to start the 2nd half on defense it meant the D was out on the field too much.
I didn't get the jet sweep at the end of the game. It's effective when you run it 4-5 times a game so the defense doesn't know where it is going. We did it just that one time and lost 6 yards as opposed to giving the ball to Lynch for 4-6 yards. The last 4th down throw was just to try to get a penalty I think. Overall I didn't think Bevell had a good game.
I didn't like the defensive plan either. It seemed like we consistently brought 5+ guys and didn't get home so Rivers just picked us apart. Or we dropped too far back and the underneath to Woodhead was there (at least in the first half). They scored 20 in the first half and 10 in the second. If we had come better prepared we might have actually had a shot *and* the defense would have fared better.
And untimely penalties really hurt us. The Irvin personal foul was out of frustration and was the difference in 4 points as well as the defense having to be on the field more. At the end of the day those 4 points didn't matter but we don't play games to really pile it on so that can bite us eventually. He'll need to get that under control or he'll be on the bench.
But I agree with Hooper, I really hadn't lost hope with Russell in there which is a very calming feeling. Now I just want us to have a better plan against the Broncos.
The Harvin fumble just killed us offensively. We were matching them (I think it was 10-7 at that point) and if we had another long drive then it might have given the defense a little rest. Add that into having a very quick TD to get us to 14 and having to start the 2nd half on defense it meant the D was out on the field too much.
I didn't get the jet sweep at the end of the game. It's effective when you run it 4-5 times a game so the defense doesn't know where it is going. We did it just that one time and lost 6 yards as opposed to giving the ball to Lynch for 4-6 yards. The last 4th down throw was just to try to get a penalty I think. Overall I didn't think Bevell had a good game.
I didn't like the defensive plan either. It seemed like we consistently brought 5+ guys and didn't get home so Rivers just picked us apart. Or we dropped too far back and the underneath to Woodhead was there (at least in the first half). They scored 20 in the first half and 10 in the second. If we had come better prepared we might have actually had a shot *and* the defense would have fared better.
And untimely penalties really hurt us. The Irvin personal foul was out of frustration and was the difference in 4 points as well as the defense having to be on the field more. At the end of the day those 4 points didn't matter but we don't play games to really pile it on so that can bite us eventually. He'll need to get that under control or he'll be on the bench.
But I agree with Hooper, I really hadn't lost hope with Russell in there which is a very calming feeling. Now I just want us to have a better plan against the Broncos.
biju
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Winning road games against quality opponents is tough business in the NFL. I actually like the bubble being burst a bit early because if they were to start 3-0 and roll the Broncos, things might get sloppy at some point. Call that line of thinking flawed but I think there is some validity to it.
I only saw parts of the first half though, so take it FWIW.
I only saw parts of the first half though, so take it FWIW.
Tau837
Footballguy
biju
Footballguy
It was because I wore his jersey (with the SB patch) to the game yesterday. I'm sure he saw me and was inspired.I need to publicly apologize for having the slightest doubts about Bam Bam Kam. Awesome game yesterday for Chancellor.
Hooper31
Footballguy
It was because I wore his jersey (with the SB patch) to the game yesterday. I'm sure he saw me and was inspired.I need to publicly apologize for having the slightest doubts about Bam Bam Kam. Awesome game yesterday for Chancellor.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I said in the Denver pre-game thread that I didn't think Kam looked right, and thought it might be his hip, found out he is running around on some broken down wheels.It was because I wore his jersey (with the SB patch) to the game yesterday. I'm sure he saw me and was inspired.I need to publicly apologize for having the slightest doubts about Bam Bam Kam. Awesome game yesterday for Chancellor.
Kam Chancellor did not play his best game against the San Diego Chargers last week and struggled in coverage against tight end Antonio Gates. That's because the Seattle Seahawks' Pro Bowl safety was dealing with a painful ankle injury that was worse than his "probable" status on the injury report indicated.
A source told FOX Sports that Chancellor was so debilitated in San Diego the team was mulling a procedure to clean up bone spurs, with the plan being Chancellor would play in Sunday's Super Bowl rematch against the Denver Broncos and then undergo surgery heading into the bye week. Under that scenario, Chancellor would rest six to eight weeks and be back for the Thanksgiving game against the rival San Francisco 49ers at the latest.
But a decent week of practice and Chancellor's outstanding game against Denver (a forced fumble, an interception and another near-interception) has put any plans for medical procedures on hold.
"Man, it felt great today," Chancellor told FOX Sports by phone on his way out of CenturyLink Field. "Last week, it was bothering me. But this week, it felt amazing. We did some different stuff to fix it up, fix the shoes and stuff and it felt awesome."
Chancellor's leaping interception of Peyton Manning's pass for Wes Welker in the fourth quarter wasn't quite the game-clincher it looked like it might be, as the Broncos came back to tie the game, but it prevented a possible go-ahead touchdown and preserved overtime. It was a big play in the game and for Chancellor's confidence in his ankle.
Though he didn't confirm the nature of the injury or the fact surgery was on the table, Chancellor made it clear the joint will get much needed rest this week.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mike-garafolo-sunday-wrap-philadelphia-eagles-washington-redskins-malcolm-jenkins-092114
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Hooper31
Footballguy
This article in the TNT about Heath Farwell is a great example of why the Seahawks front office is doing it right.
They didn't have to pay him or keep him around, but they're building monster credit within the locker room. Players can't help but take notice of this sort of thing.
They didn't have to pay him or keep him around, but they're building monster credit within the locker room. Players can't help but take notice of this sort of thing.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Zach Miller had ankle surgery today, will be out a couple weeks.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
You can't just show up versus a quality team in the NFL and win. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, I think a valuable lesson was learned this week. And that's not taking anything away from Dallas either, they were the better team.
Arizona looks really good btw, I think they are the team to worry most about in the division.
Arizona looks really good btw, I think they are the team to worry most about in the division.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Yes, Peyton, Luck and maybe Rodgers. Seahawks fans are trying to be funny I guess.
Why are people thanking you, you have nothing to do with how he plays, they should thank Russell.
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seahawk 17
Footballguy
As if the defense was not thin already, Cassius Marsh broke his foot and will be out 4-5 weeks. Per Ian Rappaport.
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