Hooper31
Footballguy
http://www.earlthomas.com/2014/07/03/setting-standard/
Earl Thomas explains the high standards for the Legion of Boom.
Earl Thomas explains the high standards for the Legion of Boom.
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thaniz
Footballguy
Could some one tell me what they think about Bruce Irvin heading into the season? I have him on my taxi squad in one league, but I'm seriously thinking about dropping him. I get the impression he is more of a pass rusher? Will he see the field in early downs? How will he be used?
It is a tackle heavy league, so if he is just a guy who gets a sack now and then his value is pretty low.
It is a tackle heavy league, so if he is just a guy who gets a sack now and then his value is pretty low.
Hooper31
Footballguy
I'm sorry to say this is my perception of Irvin's skill set for the moment. Further, its no guarantee that he will be healthy at the start of the season. This said, I won't be surprised to see him still develop into a dominating stat hog. He's got freakish athleticism. He's surrounded by other solid talent. He's played outside linebacker for just under a year. I believe the Seattle coaches still believe in his potential.
Lastly, its worth noting that Dan Quinn views him as the SAM, and not the future LEO replacing Chris Clemons. There's talk among the Seattle faithful that they ought to be giving Super Bowl MVP Malcolm Smith more of a chance at his spot, but I don't see this happening.
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EDIT: You sound like a guy that would want to hear about interesting prospects. Seattle drafted Kevin Pierre Louis out of Boston College at the end of the 4th round this year. Probably worth a look. Seattle is enamored with freakish athletes in terms of speed and size. KPL is that guy from this past draft. Not a lot of linebackers out there running 4.5 in the forty. His speed and explosion measurables are off the charts. LINK to KPL highlights and combine.
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
Richard Sherman needs to shut his mouth.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Technically speaking, anybody can talk all he wants, no matter his success in life. The content of the chatter means more than the caliber of the person doing the talking. Egotistical rants and #### talking monthes after an altercation count as worthless subjects in my book. I wouldn't listen to my co-worker spout such babble; I doubt you would either. Somehow, Sherman manages to get headlines for it.
End of rant.
CapnJB
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
Sherman agrees with you. When someone tried to ask him about it this past week he refused to comment. He didn't bring the subject up again this week. An interview he did months ago was aired for the first time. The media wants you to think he is responsible for bringing it up again. They do this because they know guys like you will respond with predictable emotional outrage.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
CapnJB
Footballguy
So I got the mail today and Cortez Kennedy sent me some autographed football cards. That doesn't happen very often. Mind. Blown.
I know this doesn't really belong here but I couldn't find a 'Cortez send me stuff' thread
I know this doesn't really belong here but I couldn't find a 'Cortez send me stuff' thread
biju
Footballguy
Is there a reason *why* he sent you this stuff? Seems very random otherwise...So I got the mail today and Cortez Kennedy sent me some autographed football cards. That doesn't happen very often. Mind. Blown.
I know this doesn't really belong here but I couldn't find a 'Cortez send me stuff' thread
CapnJB
Footballguy
Long story short... I was born in Seattle but grew up on the East Coast a Seahawk fan. My dad's best friend ran a ticket business in Seattle that did high end Seahawk/Sonic/Huskie tours. He was very connected to the team. He knew I was a huge fan so I'd get stuff in the mail from time to time... play off ticket stubs, Christmas cards from the team, 12th man towels. In 1994 I got two front row tickets, 50 yard line, to opening day at RFK stadium where they pounded the RedskinsIs there a reason *why* he sent you this stuff? Seems very random otherwise...So I got the mail today and Cortez Kennedy sent me some autographed football cards. That doesn't happen very often. Mind. Blown.
I know this doesn't really belong here but I couldn't find a 'Cortez send me stuff' thread
. He passed away this past year (sadly before the Super Bowl) but his wife asked his former assistant (who is very good friends with Cortez) to send me a note. I was completely unaware of it all so it knocked me off my feet. What a great surprise
biju
Footballguy
I'm sorry to hear the man passed away, but otherwise this is very cool. I've got a Cortez autographed mini-helmet I acquired somehow (I honestly can't remember and it includes many players and extends through multiple teams since it has Tez and Steve Largent on it). I also have this crazy signed Deion Branch softball jersey.Long story short... I was born in Seattle but grew up on the East Coast a Seahawk fan. My dad's best friend ran a ticket business in Seattle that did high end Seahawk/Sonic/Huskie tours. He was very connected to the team. He knew I was a huge fan so I'd get stuff in the mail from time to time... play off ticket stubs, Christmas cards from the team, 12th man towels. In 1994 I got two front row tickets, 50 yard line, to opening day at RFK stadium where they pounded the RedskinsIs there a reason *why* he sent you this stuff? Seems very random otherwise...So I got the mail today and Cortez Kennedy sent me some autographed football cards. That doesn't happen very often. Mind. Blown.
I know this doesn't really belong here but I couldn't find a 'Cortez send me stuff' thread
I have too much weird stuff I should probably catalog.
Hooper31
Footballguy
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2014/07/20/keep-your-eye-on-tharold-simon/
Another article praising Tharold Simon. Seattle is so loaded at DB its going beyond absurd.
Another article praising Tharold Simon. Seattle is so loaded at DB its going beyond absurd.
Hooper31
Footballguy
Morning campers. Welcome to a new and different feeling. Reigning champs. That's kind of cool.
Curious to hear who you homers are going to be paying close attention to during camp. Easily going to be the #5 and possibly #6 receivers for me as well as the LEO on the defensive line.
WR: IMO Harvin, Baldwin, Kearse, and Richardson are the locks. That leaves Norwood, Matthews, and Lockette battling for the remaining spot(s). I could see lots of scenarios working themselves out here.
LEO DE: Would love to see Marsh step in right away and win the LEO spot, but it seems that perhaps Mayowa may have the upper hand at the moment.
What camp battles will you be focused on?
Curious to hear who you homers are going to be paying close attention to during camp. Easily going to be the #5 and possibly #6 receivers for me as well as the LEO on the defensive line.
WR: IMO Harvin, Baldwin, Kearse, and Richardson are the locks. That leaves Norwood, Matthews, and Lockette battling for the remaining spot(s). I could see lots of scenarios working themselves out here.
LEO DE: Would love to see Marsh step in right away and win the LEO spot, but it seems that perhaps Mayowa may have the upper hand at the moment.
What camp battles will you be focused on?
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Im focusing on the DLine, Scruggs, Marsh, Mayowa. Im also excited to see PRich and Cmike. Along the Oline I think/hope Carp is going to have his best season and Im pumped/jacked to see what happens at RT.
biju
Footballguy
I'm curious about WR and I think you have those locks right. I see Norwood making it and I think Lockette has an advantage due to special teams.
I'm also interested in the RT spot as I think Breno was much better than he got credit for.
I'm going out to the VMAC on Sunday so I'll try to report back on what I see.
Tau837
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
For those keeping score at home... Danny Kelly at Fieldgulls reports that Norwood took a significant lead over Matthews on day 1 of training camp.
In the comments below the article fans report Matthews looking slow and having several drops.
CapnJB
Footballguy
Being a Hawks fan stuck in Redskins country I'm constantly bombarded with RG3 this and that. I remember being jealous that they were getting a guy of that caliber... but wow did they spend way too much.
In 2012, the Redskins got Robert Griffin and Josh LeRibeus with their 2012 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks, 2013 1st round and 2014 1st round pick. With those same picks the Seahawks got:
2012: 1st round - traded back and ended up with Bruce Irvin and Jeremy Lane. 2nd round - traded back and got Bobby Wagner, Korey Toomer, and Gregg Scruggs. 3rd round - Russell Wilson
2013: 1st round - Traded for Percy Harvin
2014: 1st round - Traded back and traded back again - acquired Paul Richardson, Cassius Marsh, Kevin Norwood, Garrett Scott and Kiero Small from those trades.
So... in conclusion, with the same picks (and mind you the Redskins always picked ahead of the Seahawks)
The Redskins got: Robert Griffin and Josh LeRibeus
and picking later,
The Seahawks got Bruce Irvin, Jeremy Lane, Bobby Wagner, Korey Toomer, Greg Scruggs, Russell Wilson, Percy Harvin, Paul Richardson, Cassius Marsh, Kevin Norwood, Garrett Scott and Kiero Small.
That's how a front office should run... booyah!
In 2012, the Redskins got Robert Griffin and Josh LeRibeus with their 2012 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks, 2013 1st round and 2014 1st round pick. With those same picks the Seahawks got:
2012: 1st round - traded back and ended up with Bruce Irvin and Jeremy Lane. 2nd round - traded back and got Bobby Wagner, Korey Toomer, and Gregg Scruggs. 3rd round - Russell Wilson
2013: 1st round - Traded for Percy Harvin
2014: 1st round - Traded back and traded back again - acquired Paul Richardson, Cassius Marsh, Kevin Norwood, Garrett Scott and Kiero Small from those trades.
So... in conclusion, with the same picks (and mind you the Redskins always picked ahead of the Seahawks)
The Redskins got: Robert Griffin and Josh LeRibeus
and picking later,
The Seahawks got Bruce Irvin, Jeremy Lane, Bobby Wagner, Korey Toomer, Greg Scruggs, Russell Wilson, Percy Harvin, Paul Richardson, Cassius Marsh, Kevin Norwood, Garrett Scott and Kiero Small.
That's how a front office should run... booyah!
biju
Footballguy
I went to TC today and I specifically watched the WRs. (Bowie was injured and out today so I didn't bother with RT. I also watched the RBs a bit.) Here's what I saw...
- Harvin with a few catches over the middle, one was very athletic.
- Baldwin was strong all the way around but did have one bad slip I haven't seen him make before.
- Kearse had a pretty bad drop and didn't seem to have a very good practice.
- Paul Richardson is very, very fast. He had an intermediate distance catch on the left side of the field where it looked like two defenders had an angle on him. He whipped right around them and in for a TD like they were standing still. It was pretty great.
- Ricardo Lockette had a few impressive catches along the sideline and one for a TD. He had the look of an NFL receiver today.
- Norwood was out today as far as I could tell
- Chris Matthews only had one catch that made me realize he was there. I don't think he did anything else of note.
- Someone named David Gilreath had a couple very nice catches
- The WR who stole the show early was Phil Bates. He had two grabs for TDs that was over our DBs (2nd stringers). Both drew applause from the crowds.
If I had to guess right now I would think Harvin, Baldwin, and Richardson are locked in. Kearse is probably locked in too however he can't keep having the day he had today as he was the 6th or 7th best WR on the field. Without having seen Norwood I think he's in as well. And since that's already 5 guys it means we might only have one more slot. I still have to give it to Lockette since he's been so good as a gunner, but I've got to say I think Phil Bates might really be making a case for making the team. He really looked good a number of times today.
biju
Footballguy
Holy #### man, that is pretty awesome.
My only thought is whether Wilson's YPA will go up with more passes thrown. The natural assumption here is that we can't throw the ball down the field deep more so we should see designed bubble screens to Harvin which may lower his 7.9 YPA. If Richardson sees more time though I'm wondering how he affects the field vertically which might work to your advantage given the intermediate field more room.
At any rate, great job.
Tau837
Footballguy
Thanks. I worked through the projections in the order they are presented in the post, and I originally planned to project Wilson a bit lower than last year. But then I started working through the receivers, and I ended up having to bump Wilson's yardage up to make them match. They are definitely aggressive projections for Wilson, Harvin, and Baldwin. I am probably higher than anyone on Wilson and Baldwin, in particular.Holy #### man, that is pretty awesome.
My only thought is whether Wilson's YPA will go up with more passes thrown. The natural assumption here is that we can't throw the ball down the field deep more so we should see designed bubble screens to Harvin which may lower his 7.9 YPA. If Richardson sees more time though I'm wondering how he affects the field vertically which might work to your advantage given the intermediate field more room.
At any rate, great job.
biju
Footballguy
Here's some pictures I took at Sunday's training camp if anyone's interested...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mharjo/sets/72157646038193723/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mharjo/sets/72157646038193723/
Hooper31
Footballguy
Happen to notice position leader in the RB group?
I have strong memories of Darrell Jackson and Koren Robinson goofing off in the back of the line with the WRs while Ricky Watters was a great pace setter with the RBs.
CapnJB
Footballguy
Nice job... always nice to have bright sun when shooting at 300mm. I may borrow a few of these for my desktop
biju
Footballguy
biju
Footballguy
Go right ahead. None of those are good enough quality to ever be sold.Nice job... always nice to have bright sun when shooting at 300mm. I may borrow a few of these for my desktop
I've got to say, shooting sports is really hard to do. I had to set it to "P" to get anything of value, although in hindsight I should have set the aperture priority instead so all of the shots were definitely in focus. The Sherman tip would have been great if the camera didn't decide to set the aperture too low.
ex-ghost
Footballguy
Just got back from training camp, short practice (no pads) today, only 1.25 hours.
Couple of observations from my untrained eye:
- Terrelle Pryor looked awful. Threw two picks without pressure, did not look comfortable at all.
- Lynch showed up about 30 minutes after practice started, did not participate in any drills.
- Richardson played a few snaps, did not see Norwood participate. Heard later that both may be a bit dinged up.
- Legion of Boom looks tough, Simon will be a great addition - long and lean.
- Harvin very active, lots of passes to him across the middle.
Couple of observations from my untrained eye:
- Terrelle Pryor looked awful. Threw two picks without pressure, did not look comfortable at all.
- Lynch showed up about 30 minutes after practice started, did not participate in any drills.
- Richardson played a few snaps, did not see Norwood participate. Heard later that both may be a bit dinged up.
- Legion of Boom looks tough, Simon will be a great addition - long and lean.
- Harvin very active, lots of passes to him across the middle.
biju
Footballguy
Yeah, the stuff I saw from Pryor didn't look terribly good either when I went last weekend. He ran around a lot and got off a few passes but he mostly was inaccurate. Of course on Tuesday he had a great bomb to Richardson; of course, Richardson was so far open I could have hit him.
Agree on Harvin and the LOB--both look season-ready.
biju
Footballguy
I think Winston is going to be a great fit overall as he has experience in the ZBS and doesn't miss time with injury. Of course, I don't think he's as strong of a pass blocker as he is in run blocking so ideally we would continue to churn and get better depth there when possible. I actually wouldn't be too surprised if Carroll pulled him on obvious passing situations for a better pass blocker--he's done it before so I don't see why he wouldn't continue to do it.Hooper31 said:
As long as someone can give Russell a little more time I'm happy.
biju
Footballguy
Ok peeps, I'm curious what you guys think about the upcoming preseason game. Obviously last preseason we player and destroyed the Broncos. After the game the Broncos and their fans cried about it "just being preseason" as well as how that didn't mean a thing. Of course six months later we destroyed them again.
So the question is: do the Broncos continue to just take it easy or will they feel like they have something to prove in this game? If you think they have something to prove, do you think this game might turn into something a little more real than a regular preseason game? And finally, do you think there will be any cheap shots?
So the question is: do the Broncos continue to just take it easy or will they feel like they have something to prove in this game? If you think they have something to prove, do you think this game might turn into something a little more real than a regular preseason game? And finally, do you think there will be any cheap shots?
CapnJB
Footballguy
I think it may be a little chippy for the first few plays from each team but then it will likely become ho-hum preseason football. Week 3 on the other hand could be quite interesting.
The General
Footballguy
Earl Thomas returning punts seems like a bad idea.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
My initial game thoughts....
1. Turbin is not a starting back in the NFL.
2. Maxwell got a wake up call, and his head shrinks down to normal size.
3. Britt realizes the game is much faster at this level and makes adjustments.
4. Sherman is so good, they don't even throw his way during the pre-season.
1. Turbin is not a starting back in the NFL.
2. Maxwell got a wake up call, and his head shrinks down to normal size.
3. Britt realizes the game is much faster at this level and makes adjustments.
4. Sherman is so good, they don't even throw his way during the pre-season.
Hooper31
Footballguy
biju
Footballguy
I want to agree but there are a couple of things we should keep in mind:
1. Lynch was held to a 2.6 YPC against Denver in the Super Bowl. Michael in this preseason game was a 2.3 and Turbin was terrible. But Denver's run D is stout.
2. Looked like a pretty soft zone to me. Plus you are going up against DT and Manning.
3. Yeah, Britt didn't look good at all on his pass blocking, but I thought he was scoring plus grades on the run blocking. I expect Winston to start for the season.
4. This one kinda concerns me for some reason. I feel like this is setting something up and I can't figure out why. Or, Manning just realizes why get the Seattle D all worked up if Sherman intercepts it. But note that DT didn't really go Sherman's way either.
On top of that, I thought Pryor looked good with the exception of not winning there at the end--I actually attribute that to a lack of touch on the ball to Bronson and his drop more than the INT. And I can't believe I haven't brought up Coyle yet--the guy was everywhere, including special teams. I have a feeling he's going to end up beating out Farwell this year, which is too bad but it had to happen at some point.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Saw this on the news last night- Pete takes the ALS ice bucket challenge
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/2014/08/12/video-seattle-seahawks-coach-pete-carroll-takes-als-ice-bucket-challenge/
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/2014/08/12/video-seattle-seahawks-coach-pete-carroll-takes-als-ice-bucket-challenge/
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Give Britt a chance playing with the #1 line. All the starters are back so lets see how he does this week.
biju
Footballguy
Certainly. It's worth mentioning it is nearly impossible to know what the assignment was on those pass blocks so being with the 1s will be very telling. I can't wait to watch the game...
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
rePETE
The General
Footballguy
Just watched the 1st half. That was ####### impressive. Complete domination in all areas of game. If you had to nit pick I guess the Oline looks a little shaky on a few pass plays and seeing Thomas return punts freaks me out.
Russell looked beyond good, Harvin looked like the fastest guy on the field. Shut it down and just roll into the Green Bay game.
Russell looked beyond good, Harvin looked like the fastest guy on the field. Shut it down and just roll into the Green Bay game.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Seattle's 1st string has scored 7 TD's and 2 FG's in it's last nine possessions. They looked incredible last night. How are you going to stop the offense this year?
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