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2016-17 NBA Thread: Finals are over, please go away (5 Viewers)

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I enjoye the JJ Riddick podcasts as well on the Vertical. His last one with Bill Simmons was good. He's a lot more enjoyable than Woj. Woj has great guests, but he sucks at interviewing them....he doesn't sound natural like Bill and JJ.

 
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US looks great. Ball is moving better, defense is there. Maybe they were just bored, but Spain is going to be an issue. 

 
K really tightened up the bench too. Draymond, Derozan and of course Barnes aren't even playing. 

The Draymond thing is weird though. 

 
Capella said:
I mean, why in the hell is Harrison Barnes on this team? That was baffling when it was announced and it's particularly stupid now. Doesn't make any sense at all. 
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There's probably a handful of American wings who were available that could've gone over Barnes, but I don't think any of them would've moved the needle significantly.

My favorite US teams are the spectuacular flame-outs or the utterly dominant ones. This team kinda has "weak gold" written all over it.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
There's probably a handful of American wings who were available that could've gone over Barnes, but I don't think any of them would've moved the needle significantly.

My favorite US teams are the spectuacular flame-outs or the utterly dominant ones. This team kinda has "weak gold" written all over it.
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I don't want to parrot Simmons, but another shooter would've been nice. Doesn't necessarily have to be 6'8 wing IMO 

 
Capella said:
I don't want to parrot Simmons, but another shooter would've been nice. Doesn't necessarily have to be 6'8 wing IMO 
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I think Middleton and Lillard both would've been great, although the latter doesn't solve this team's defensive shortcomings. But he's a nightmare matchup, and more threatening on offense than Irving, overall.

The Barnes thing is pretty weird. I dunno.

 
Serbia is rolling the Aussies right now.  Australia has only scored 25 points with 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.  Teodosic is lighting them up at the other end.

 
I'm sure most of you don't give a ####, and some will be happy to hear, but this is my final post and visit to this thread. 

Just wanted to drop a line and say thank yall for the basketball talk over the years. It has often made me think and I've learned quite a bit, in spite of some occasional prickliness. This is one of the best threads in the FFA, and I'm sure it will continue on that way. I hope I've contributed to that in some small way. 

I have accepted work in the industry and, as such, will now pretty much have to avoid posting on the topic. I've got no idea which direction my life will go next so maybe someday I'll be back. But who really knows. Anyway, thanks. Feel free to PM if you care about anything deeper. 

 
hey man congrats we will miss ya and thanks for being a part of the show take that to the bank and try to get someone to say brohan on the air that woud rule 

 
Does the US Team have a coach? A pick up game at the Y looks more coordinated than these guys in the 1st quarter. Can't wait till Pop is coaching this thing. No way he puts up with the sloppy hero-ball garbage that is on the floor right now.

 
Instinctive said:
I'm sure most of you don't give a ####, and some will be happy to hear, but this is my final post and visit to this thread. 

Just wanted to drop a line and say thank yall for the basketball talk over the years. It has often made me think and I've learned quite a bit, in spite of some occasional prickliness. This is one of the best threads in the FFA, and I'm sure it will continue on that way. I hope I've contributed to that in some small way. 

I have accepted work in the industry and, as such, will now pretty much have to avoid posting on the topic. I've got no idea which direction my life will go next so maybe someday I'll be back. But who really knows. Anyway, thanks. Feel free to PM if you care about anything deeper. 
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Come back as an alias and give us inside info or just pm me.

Will suck losing you, always a top quality poster. I really don't know if I'd enjoy NBA as much without this thread.

 
DallasDMac said:
Does the US Team have a coach? A pick up game at the Y looks more coordinated than these guys in the 1st quarter. Can't wait till Pop is coaching this thing. No way he puts up with the sloppy hero-ball garbage that is on the floor right now.
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K hasn't lost a game as the national coach since 2006. I would say he's done ok. 

 
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Capella said:
K has literally never lost a game as the national coach. I would say he's done ok. 
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The exact number of the Team USA winning streak will be reported by the end of the game.  IIRC it's somewhere in the 70s, including the Olympics, Worlds, and qualifiers. Their last loss was in the semifinals at the 2006 Worlds, K's first big tournament with Team USA.  Under K's watch, USA hasn't lost a single game at the Olympics and is about to win their third gold medal in a row to go with back-to-back undefeated performances at the Worlds.

IMO the real credit goes to people up top like Colangelo putting an emphasis on getting the top players to participate and not viewing FIBA tournaments as a vehicle to sell personalities, shoes, and jerseys.  There's several coaches who could do what K has done during this era for Team USA, but there are many people running or have run NBA benches 2006-2016 who couldn't.     

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
The exact number of the Team USA winning streak will be reported by the end of the game.  IIRC it's somewhere in the 70s, including the Olympics, Worlds, and qualifiers. Their last loss was in the semifinals at the 2006 Worlds, K's first big tournament with Team USA.  Under K's watch, USA hasn't lost a single game at the Olympics and is about to win their third gold medal in a row to go with back-to-back undefeated performances at the Worlds.

IMO the real credit goes to people up top like Colangelo putting an emphasis on getting the top players to participate and not viewing FIBA tournaments as a vehicle to sell personalities, shoes, and jerseys.  There's several coaches who could do what K has done during this era for Team USA, but there are many people running or have run NBA benches 2006-2016 who couldn't.     
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I largely agree, but he was handed a relatively #### roster this time and they're about to run the whole thing. I always thought colangelo was the brains behind this (and he is) but this was a terrible roster construction. Harrison Barnes may be the worst/dumbest selection in all the dream team years. 

 
Capella said:
I largely agree, but he was handed a relatively #### roster this time and they're about to run the whole thing. I always thought colangelo was the brains behind this (and he is) but this was a terrible roster construction. Harrison Barnes may be the worst/dumbest selection in all the dream team years. 
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I agree that Colangelo deserves a lot of credit, judging how well K has done is difficult considering how far ahead of everyone else the US is. What's "par" for how much talent they've had for the number of tourneys K has coached. 1 loss? 2? If this team had gone to Brazil with literally no coaching staff, how much would it decrease their odds of winning?

The women's team was incredible, btw. I don't think they were ever in any sort of trouble the whole way.

 
Capella said:
K hasn't lost a game as the national coach since 2006. I would say he's done ok. 
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The team this year won because of talent, not because of coaching. As for 2006 onward, a chimp would have had the same record over that time frame. Had he done it with college players, then maybe it would have been impressive. But with an NBA all-star squad every year? He lost exactly as many as he should have.

 
DallasDMac said:
The team this year won because of talent, not because of coaching. As for 2006 onward, a chimp would have had the same record over that time frame. Had he done it with college players, then maybe it would have been impressive. But with an NBA all-star squad every year? He lost exactly as many as he should have.
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In 2004, Larry Brown had Carmelo, Lebron, Tim Duncan at peak Duncan and Allen Iverson. So, no, a chimp would not have necessarily done the same thing. 

 
Yes the US had more talent than every other team and has for years.  Theres still something to be said for getting out of the way.  Not every coach could do that.  And i'm far from a K fan.  I'd rather be a fan of UCONN.

 
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ESPN is projecting the sixers to win 24.5 games. 

Kings are projected to win 37.7


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ESPN. That's cute.  They evaluated all the Kings off season moves and said yea, this team is going to be better than last year. Watch out!

 
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They're projecting the Lakers to have the lowest number of wins in the league. They might get to keep this year's first rounder again.  :excited:  

 
Anyone catch that "Undefeated" ESPN showcase the other night about problems with the police and the black community?

I only saw parts.

I saw that Rondo was on it.  Did they mention him calling a gay ref a f*&*Ing F$%^&t this past year?

Saw that Wade and his pastor mom was on it.  Did they mention him getting someone preggo while being engaged to Gabrielle Union?

People make mistakes.  Who am I to judge?  But when you make huge mistakes don't try to put yourself forward as a role model.  Just sit back and collect your checks.  Don't insult us.  

 
Daywalker said:
Anyone catch that "Undefeated" ESPN showcase the other night about problems with the police and the black community?

I only saw parts.

I saw that Rondo was on it.  Did they mention him calling a gay ref a f*&*Ing F$%^&t this past year?

Saw that Wade and his pastor mom was on it.  Did they mention him getting someone preggo while being engaged to Gabrielle Union?

People make mistakes.  Who am I to judge?  But when you make huge mistakes don't try to put yourself forward as a role model.  Just sit back and collect your checks.  Don't insult us.  
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Did not see it, but I can see why you'd have those questions, since they relate so directly to the police and the black community.

 
Daywalker said:
Anyone catch that "Undefeated" ESPN showcase the other night about problems with the police and the black community?

I only saw parts.

I saw that Rondo was on it.  Did they mention him calling a gay ref a f*&*Ing F$%^&t this past year?

Saw that Wade and his pastor mom was on it.  Did they mention him getting someone preggo while being engaged to Gabrielle Union?

People make mistakes.  Who am I to judge?  But when you make huge mistakes don't try to put yourself forward as a role model.  Just sit back and collect your checks.  Don't insult us.  
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Next NBA All-Star Dunk Contest sponsored by Sprite, you come out in a cape and a Skip Bayless mask, and you hammer it down wearing oven mitts. And when you come down (after the backflip) and the ball is bouncing in front of you, you kick that ####### ball right out of the arena and into a nearby bubbling volcano. And before they can give you the car you just won, you walk right out of the arena past everyone, never to be seen again, off to wander the Earth like Kane.

 
King Joffrey has been killed in Denver, but will rise again in OKC for 2 second round picks.  

Will be interesting to see how this plays out since I believe he's a RFA this year, but it seems like a nice pick-up for them.  

 
Sammy3469 said:
King Joffrey has been killed in Denver, but will rise again in OKC for 2 second round picks.  

Will be interesting to see how this plays out since I believe he's a RFA this year, but it seems like a nice pick-up for them.  
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I think he could be a nice 4th big that could split time at both the 4 and 5. No place left for him in Denver, but I think he's a better player than 2 2nd rounders.

 
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