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2016-17 NBA Thread: Finals are over, please go away (1 Viewer)

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pushing the lakers pick to 4 needs to happen
Things are definitely going in the wrong direction for you there. Lakers already have the 3rd most losses in the league, only 1 less than the team with the 2nd most. They're only 2 ahead of 3rd place Phoenix for fewest wins as well. And they've got a nice 5 game losing streak going with the Pacers coming to town tomorrow. Good chance the Lakers will Hinkie the 76ers out of that pick this year.

 
Things are definitely going in the wrong direction for you there. Lakers already have the 3rd most losses in the league, only 1 less than the team with the 2nd most. They're only 2 ahead of 3rd place Phoenix for fewest wins as well. And they've got a nice 5 game losing streak going with the Pacers coming to town tomorrow. Good chance the Lakers will Hinkie the 76ers out of that pick this year.
I'm not that worried about it. If it doesn't happen this year, we get it unprotected next year. It's not like the Lakers will suddenly get good. It'll still be a top 5 pick in 2018.

 
I'm not that worried about it. If it doesn't happen this year, we get it unprotected next year. It's not like the Lakers will suddenly get good. It'll still be a top 5 pick in 2018.
The 2017 draft is going to be loaded. I don't know what things will look like for 2018.

 
Things are definitely going in the wrong direction for you there. Lakers already have the 3rd most losses in the league, only 1 less than the team with the 2nd most. They're only 2 ahead of 3rd place Phoenix for fewest wins as well. And they've got a nice 5 game losing streak going with the Pacers coming to town tomorrow. Good chance the Lakers will Hinkie the 76ers out of that pick this year.
The wins are what matter.  They have played more games so naturally they will have more losses.  The other teams can rack up losses with the games they have in hand but LA can't unwin any of their games played so far.

 
The wins are what matter.  They have played more games so naturally they will have more losses.  The other teams can rack up losses with the games they have in hand but LA can't unwin any of their games played so far.
And with all that, they only have the 4th most wins in the league, by 2 wins. I think Miami will pass them in wins pretty easily if they can get healthy again. Not sure about Phoenix, outside of Booker there's not a lot to like there. 10 of the Lakers' 15 wins came in Oct/Nov. On Dec 1 they were 10-10. They've gone 5-21 since. They're not exactly trending up here, their play has completely fallen apart.

 
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And with all that, they only have the 4th most wins in the league, by 2 wins. I think Miami will pass them in wins pretty easily if they can get healthy again. Not sure about Phoenix, outside of Booker there's not a lot to like there. 10 of the Lakers' 15 wins came in Oct/Nov. On Dec 1 they were 10-10. They've gone 5-21 since. They're not exactly trending up here, their play has completely fallen apart.
I don't think the Heat are going to be improving any time soon. The Heat suck to begin with but they are also going to be shopping Dragic hard and with him gone they are worse than BK.

I also think there is going to be a team or two with a better record currently than the Lakers (Dallas, Sacramento, Orlando) that are going to trade off assets to tank.

 
I don't think the Heat are going to be improving any time soon. The Heat suck to begin with but they are also going to be shopping Dragic hard and with him gone they are worse than BK.

I also think there is going to be a team or two with a better record currently than the Lakers (Dallas, Sacramento, Orlando) that are going to trade off assets to tank.
Well then, freeze the #### out of that envelope Silver!

 
And with all that, they only have the 4th most wins in the league, by 2 wins. I think Miami will pass them in wins pretty easily if they can get healthy again. Not sure about Phoenix, outside of Booker there's not a lot to like there. 10 of the Lakers' 15 wins came in Oct/Nov. On Dec 1 they were 10-10. They've gone 5-21 since. They're not exactly trending up here, their play has completely fallen apart.
If the Lakers finish 3rd worst, it's essentially a coin flip.  Sixers need to hope the Lakers stay out of the top 2.  Nets are almost definitely finishing last so one of the heat or suns needs to hold them off.

 
Reggie Miller, complementing the various contributions of Kyle O'Quinn in his starting role, wondered what his plus/minus must be for the game.  "Pretty high!" Miller concluded.

The game was three minutes old and the score was 6-4.

I don't think Reggie Miller understands plus/minus.

 
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Reggie Miller, complementing the various contributions of Kyle O'Quinn in his starting role, wondered what his plus/minus must be for the game.  "Pretty high!" Miller concluded.

The game was three minutes old and the score was 6-4.

I don't think Reggie Miller understands plus/minus.
Hey, he's probably talking RAPM, adjusting for teammates and possessions. By my back-of-the-envelope calculations if your team is up 6-4 in 3 minutes of play with Derrick Rose on your team, you're like +1,000,000

 
And with all that, they only have the 4th most wins in the league, by 2 wins. I think Miami will pass them in wins pretty easily if they can get healthy again. Not sure about Phoenix, outside of Booker there's not a lot to like there. 10 of the Lakers' 15 wins came in Oct/Nov. On Dec 1 they were 10-10. They've gone 5-21 since. They're not exactly trending up here, their play has completely fallen apart.
it's funny seeing Lakers fans pulling for losses to avoid losing that pick.

Really goes to show how screwed up the NBA system is when there is so much attention on who finishes in the bottom 3-4 teams

 
yeah, MVP is "Most Valuable Player". How the hell could that be anybody but Embiid, especially when looking at all of those stats? Which player is more integral to the win/losses of their team? Sure Westbrook scores more and has better stats, but you can't argue that when Embiid plays the Sixers are a better team. And with the discrepancy so high, a legit candidate for the Most Valuable Player to his team (the true definition, not the player with the highest stats)

 
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yeah, MVP is "Most Valuable Player". How the hell could that be anybody but Embiid, especially when looking at all of those stats? Which player is more integral to the win/losses of their team? Sure Westbrook scores more and has better stats, but you can't argue that when Embiid plays the Sixers are a better team. And with the discrepancy so high, a legit candidate for the Most Valuable Player to his team (the true definition, not the player with the highest stats)
I love Embiid as much as anyone, but there is value in playing games. Hard to give Embiid MVP if he's missing games. He'll miss 17 games if he continues to sit out thee back end of B2B, so he'll max out at 65 games played. However, If they can win 41 of the 65 games he plays, I'll gladly support The Process as an MVP.

 
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yeah, MVP is "Most Valuable Player". How the hell could that be anybody but Embiid, especially when looking at all of those stats? Which player is more integral to the win/losses of their team? Sure Westbrook scores more and has better stats, but you can't argue that when Embiid plays the Sixers are a better team. And with the discrepancy so high, a legit candidate for the Most Valuable Player to his team (the true definition, not the player with the highest stats)
The best ability is availability.  His unavailability for several meaningful minutes and games, costing the team so many of those games eliminates him from any serious discussion.

Please link to the true definition as it pertains to the league/award.

 
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They really should do away with the fan vote or make it count as 1/3 instead 1/2.

I would have loved to see Westbrok and Durant start the All*Star game together.
This system seems fine. No matter what, it kept Dwayne Wade from starting the AS game. 

As weird as it is to see a man average a triple-double and not start the AS game, Curry not starting an AS game would also be a little weird. I'd prefer to see both Westbrook and Harden get rewarded for their historic starts to the season, but it's not a huge travesty.

Mostly, what I would've liked to see is for that ******* that owns OKC to have to see 3 guys that were on his team 4 years ago start the AS game together. Oh well, there's still the very good chance they finish 1-2-3 in MVP voting. 

 
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yeah, MVP is "Most Valuable Player". How the hell could that be anybody but Embiid, especially when looking at all of those stats? Which player is more integral to the win/losses of their team? Sure Westbrook scores more and has better stats, but you can't argue that when Embiid plays the Sixers are a better team. And with the discrepancy so high, a legit candidate for the Most Valuable Player to his team (the true definition, not the player with the highest stats)
The SIxers are 14-26. The 11 games he hasn't played have been against 10 playoff teams and Detroit (the Sixers are 2-9). The 12 wins they have when he has been playing are against 4 playoff teams (Denver is one of them at 17-24) and 8 non-playoff teams. I think we all agree Embiid is a very pleasant surprise with an incredibly bright future, but right now he's just a good player on an otherwise bad team.

 
Big shot bob Covington putting the team on his back in front of god and Robert kraft.
this f'n team is funny. RoCo just stepping up with the big man out and teaching the Blazers a thing or 2. Covington is going to make some serious loot this off-season

 
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Its good to be a Sixers fan.  Bulls, Knicks... not so much. 
i don't anticipate they make the playoffs this year, but man i have to think they would be the most dangerous 8th seed in the East. 2 months of Simmons getting his feet under him will be fun to watch and i really am fascinated to see how he will fit in. 

 
it's funny seeing Lakers fans pulling for losses to avoid losing that pick.
Apparently the Pacers didn't get the memo, and this even with Russell tearing up his knee in the 1st quarter. :hot:

ETA: Mozgov and Tarick Black may be the big man combo with the worst hands of stone I've ever seen. And I've seen lots of Chuck Nevitt games.

 
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Apparently the Pacers didn't get the memo, and this even with Russell tearing up his knee in the 1st quarter. :hot:

ETA: Mozgov and Tarick Black may be the big man combo with the worst hands of stone I've ever seen. And I've seen lots of Chuck Nevitt games.
Hopefully it's just a strain, and DRussell gets held out for a month or two for "precautionary" reasons.  Trust the Process! 

 
Hopefully it's just a strain, and DRussell gets held out for a month or two for "precautionary" reasons.  Trust the Process! 
Any chance someone would bite on Deng, Mozgov and/or Young along with Lou? Lou's being wasted on this squad, I figure some contender could use him off the bench. Moving him out would really improve our tanking chances.

 
Any chance someone would bite on Deng, Mozgov and/or Young along with Lou? Lou's being wasted on this squad, I figure some contender could use him off the bench. Moving him out would really improve our tanking chances.
I would think Lou and Young could possible interest a contender, for bench scoring alone.  Young's deal is really cheap. Mozzy and Deng......wtf were you thinking Mitch????  I think we're stuck with both for at least 2 more years.  

 
it's funny seeing Lakers fans pulling for losses to avoid losing that pick.

Really goes to show how screwed up the NBA system is when there is so much attention on who finishes in the bottom 3-4 teams
It's not just that.  If they lose their pick this year they also lose their 1st in 2019 to Orlando (unprotected).  If they keep their pick this year, the 2019 pick becomes 2 2nds.

Huge stakes for the Lakers on lottery night.

 
It's not just that.  If they lose their pick this year they also lose their 1st in 2019 to Orlando (unprotected).  If they keep their pick this year, the 2019 pick becomes 2 2nds.

Huge stakes for the Lakers on lottery night.
Oh boy. Baby Buss really is going to run that thing into the ground. Last off-season was such a great time to dump a ####load of money on veterans that stink, but don't quite stink bad enough to ensure bottom 3.

 
I heard there was a mildly intriguing game last night between a couple of lightweights out West, but a showdown of Eastern Conference titans in Charlotte turned into a dud.

Kemba's a little salty that he's probably going to be the odd man out for the EC guards.

 
Wow, how do the Cavs ever lose a home game? Through three quarters, the refs aren't even attempting to hide the favoritism. If this is normal, I cant see how the Cavs managed to lose 3 on their court.

 
By mistake watched last...I guess it was couple minutes of the worst sport on earth...how do you people watch that crap...literaly took half hour for 10 seconds of play..foul foul foul foul foul..great entertainment... not

 
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