2016 Official Dallas Cowboys thread (1 Viewer)

[mikmak8902]

I only saw one screen but the Giants didn't blitz much. 

THIS ... They were not blitzing much at all.  They simply dropped into coverage and were hoping Dak would make a mistake.  He didn't.  I could tell he was getting a little nervous in the 2nd have.  He started "guiding" the ball to the receivers and his passes started to float a bit but then he righted that ship and was throwing the ball with some zip the last two drives.  The main issues I saw were as follows:

- Witten had one of the worst halves I've ever seen him play in the 2nd half.  He dropped 2(?) balls and slowed down on a route late that resulted in an incompletion.

- All receivers ... from drops (2 TD's) to catching first downs and then losing them by going backwards (happened at least 3 times ... twice by beasley and once by williams) to Williams inexplicably not getting out of bounds at the end of the game.  Need to take a look at the receivers coach.

- Run Blocking ... just horrible.  Elliot had nowhere to run.  He did have a couple runs late where he could have cut it inside but would have been big gainers.  I think those two runs were more a product of him just trying to make a big play at the end of the game.  Poor decision-making there.  All in all though, the Cowboys were inept at running the ball while on the flip side, the O-line did a great job pass blocking ... but again ... the Giants didn't blitz much.

Coaching ... the playcalling was solid early.  Alot of 1st down pass plays and we were really moving the ball well through the air.  However, they never made any adjustments to the run play calls to counter what the Giants were doing.  And someone PLEASE tell me why we kept calling TE screens on 3rd and long!!!!!!  While Witten has been a warrior over his career, noone is going to mistake him for Aaron Hernandez.  Those were complete wasted plays.

 

[BigTex]

I swear I am not trolling, I just need clarification on something. Has Terence Williams made at least one bonehead play before yesterday? I seem to recall something in his past that cost the Cowboys, but I can't remember what it was. I also could be completely wrong. 

YES HE HAS!!!!

As soon as he caught the ball I thought, I MY GOD!!! ITS ####UP T. WILLIAMS!!! Baylor standards are not what they used to be!!!

Tex

 

[mikmak8902]

Agree with BG, horrible coaching. As much as I love Zeke, Morris was the better runner and it seemed as if NYG def was starting to crack then the coaches would put Zeke back in.....WHY?????

One question among many!!!

The coaches clearly lost this game!

Just Horrible,

Tex

I caught myself thinking the same thing about Morris but, honestly, I only saw one single run that was blocked well for Zeke and he scored a TD on it.  However, on 6 of the 7 runs Morris had, they were at least adequately blocked.  On 4 of them, he had gaping holes.  Zeke absolutely did not see a hole like that the entire game.  Except, of course, for his TD run.  I firmly believe that if Zeke saw the holes that Morris had, at least one of them would have been busted for a big run.  The difference in burst is obvious.  And I think that's why they kept Zeke in the game.  If they bust one long TD run, they know they win that game.  As it is, they should have won it if Beasley hangs onto the pass at the goal line in the 1st quarter or if Dez catches his TD.  

Well, you know what they say about IFs and BUTs .......

 

[mikmak8902]

YES HE HAS!!!!

As soon as he caught the ball I thought, I MY GOD!!! ITS ####UP T. WILLIAMS!!! Baylor standards are not what they used to be!!!

Tex

I chuckled sensibly at this comment.

 

[BigTex]

I caught myself thinking the same thing about Morris but, honestly, I only saw one single run that was blocked well for Zeke and he scored a TD on it.  However, on 6 of the 7 runs Morris had, they were at least adequately blocked.  On 4 of them, he had gaping holes.  Zeke absolutely did not see a hole like that the entire game.  Except, of course, for his TD run.  I firmly believe that if Zeke saw the holes that Morris had, at least one of them would have been busted for a big run.  The difference in burst is obvious.  And I think that's why they kept Zeke in the game.  If they bust one long TD run, they know they win that game.  As it is, they should have won it if Beasley hangs onto the pass at the goal line in the 1st quarter or if Dez catches his TD.  

Well, you know what they say about IFs and BUTs .......

Agreed, but I'm not questioning the block ing. Whatever the case maybe they were clearly moving the ball better with Morris therefore why pull him out then start passing the ball?!?!? I'm not comparing Zeke to Morris but yesterday for whatever reason that offense looked different and I'M A HUGE ZEKE FAN!

Just stupid decision after stupid decision.

Tex

 

[mikmak8902]

Agreed, but I'm not questioning the block ing. Whatever the case maybe they were clearly moving the ball better with Morris therefore why pull him out then start passing the ball?!?!? I'm not comparing Zeke to Morris but yesterday for whatever reason that offense looked different and I'M A HUGE ZEKE FAN!

Just stupid decision after stupid decision.

Tex

I agree.  I can't come up with a reason why it was working out like that.  I remember looking over at my buddy and saying "this is bizarre ... every time Morris comes in the game, the O-line starts opening up truck-sized holes".  Without analyzing film, I have to assume the Giants had a different defensive game plan in place when Morris was in the game for whatever reason. 

 

[ffldrew]

What has to be disheartening for Cowboy fans is the Defense was only out on the field for 23 minutes and yet the front 7 was getting beaten like a drum by the NY giants rushing game on the giants last TD drive.

 

[mikmak8902]

What has to be disheartening for Cowboy fans is the Defense was only out on the field for 23 minutes and yet the front 7 was getting beaten like a drum by the NY giants rushing game on the giants last TD drive.

Yessir.  That is VERY disheartening.  However, hopefully this will improve when Gregory and Lawrence come back.  

*** Edited to remove McClain as apparently he is addicted to Purple Drank and a return to the team isn't likely.  We'll see what happens there.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Lowest graded week one players  https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-lowest-graded-player-at-every-position-in-nfl-week-1/?utm_content=bufferef88d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

How 'bout them Cowboys!!   :(

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

How does Dez Bryant have 1 reception for 8 yards?

the TD bobble - ok, that happens. But was he even targeted again after that? 

And biggest moment of the game, the single most critical play, they'd rather trust T. Williams than Dez to get out of bounds? At least Dez pointed in the right dirction. 

would anyone be surprised to see a Dez-centric gameplan next week? I'm thinking he might be vocal about that this week in practice. Just sayin. If my fantasy team is facing the Dez team, I'm nervous. 

 

[BigTex]

I agree.  I can't come up with a reason why it was working out like that.  I remember looking over at my buddy and saying "this is bizarre ... every time Morris comes in the game, the O-line starts opening up truck-sized holes".  Without analyzing film, I have to assume the Giants had a different defensive game plan in place when Morris was in the game for whatever reason. 

They definitely changed the defensive scheme when Morris was in vs Zeke. I replayed it several times they didn't have as many in the box against Morris but when Zeke was in the stacked the line. So the were on their heels a times with Morris in the game. Also, the opportunity to throw to Dunar was there and they threw to him once and we saw what a mismatch that was. Why not keep it going?

Tex

 

[BigTex]

How does Dez Bryant have 1 reception for 8 yards?

the TD bobble - ok, that happens. But was he even targeted again after that? 

And biggest moment of the game, the single most critical play, they'd rather trust T. Williams than Dez to get out of bounds? At least Dez pointed in the right dirction. 

would anyone be surprised to see a Dez-centric gameplan next week? I'm thinking he might be vocal about that this week in practice. Just sayin. If my fantasy team is facing the Dez team, I'm nervous. 

Dez's game has never been seperation as he's never been able to separate from anyone but his strength is catching the ball through a small window which he's been lacking lately.

Tex

 

[BigTex]

By the way, the Giants spent money to improve their Defense they knew exactly what they needed during the offseason and did it.

Likewise the Boys drafted Zeke to dominate the time of possession which they did. They just can't coach to help their team win and play to their strengths.

Tex

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Dez's game has never been seperation as he's never been able to separate from anyone but his strength is catching the ball through a small window which he's been lacking lately.

Tex

But to not run him on any slants? To not give him anything beyond the "run that way & try to beat coverage", to give Beasley more targets?  And the worst, to not give him an opportunity with the game on the line? 

Why even dress him - just leave him on the sidelines in a sweat suit. Insanity. 

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

How does Dez Bryant have 1 reception for 8 yards?

the TD bobble - ok, that happens. But was he even targeted again after that? 

And biggest moment of the game, the single most critical play, they'd rather trust T. Williams than Dez to get out of bounds? At least Dez pointed in the right dirction. 

would anyone be surprised to see a Dez-centric gameplan next week? I'm thinking he might be vocal about that this week in practice. Just sayin. If my fantasy team is facing the Dez team, I'm nervous. 

They will need to get Dez involved but they are also playing @ Wash ie Josh Norman.  Hooray for more Witten and Beasley I guess.

 

[Bankerguy]

"Jason Garrett sees no issues with how much Dez Bryant was involved. They took what NYG gave them. Went deep to Dez 3 times. Didn't work out."

Here is the problem and he doesn't effing get it.

 

[Bankerguy]

 30 pass attempts were under 10 yards. Nuff said

 

[Bankerguy]

"Jason Garrett sees no issues with how much Dez Bryant was involved. They took what NYG gave them. Went deep to Dez 3 times. Didn't work out."

Here is the problem and he doesn't effing get it.

My last comment as I am getting more angry after just reading his asinine comment.  Good teams do not take only what the defense gives, it goes and takes what they want.  I remember hearing about our 90s oline telling defenses the play.  Lead draw...come and stop us.  Good teams impose their will.  Yes, they exploit mismatches and weaknesses in the opposition but just settling for what a defense "gives you".  If I was a defense....I too would be thrilled to give you 2 yard check downs to our grandpa TE.

Good grief!!!

 

[Arodin]

"Jason Garrett sees no issues with how much Dez Bryant was involved. They took what NYG gave them. Went deep to Dez 3 times. Didn't work out."

Here is the problem and he doesn't effing get it.

This sounds EXACTLY like Jim Caldwell talking about Calvin Johnson the past couple years...

He didn't get it either.

 

[BigTex]

But to not run him on any slants? To not give him anything beyond the "run that way & try to beat coverage", to give Beasley more targets?  And the worst, to not give him an opportunity with the game on the line? 

Why even dress him - just leave him on the sidelines in a sweat suit. Insanity. 

I agree 100%, again horrible coaching and zero leadership!

Tex

 

[DreamTheater]

My last comment as I am getting more angry after just reading his asinine comment.  Good teams do not take only what the defense gives, it goes and takes what they want.  I remember hearing about our 90s oline telling defenses the play.  Lead draw...come and stop us.  Good teams impose their will.  Yes, they exploit mismatches and weaknesses in the opposition but just settling for what a defense "gives you".  If I was a defense....I too would be thrilled to give you 2 yard check downs to our grandpa TE.

Good grief!!!

amen to that !!! 

Tired of JG rah-rah bs press conferences every week...we need to learn from this and get better..waa waa...  how many years before we learn how to win.

Be a coach, teach them how to go out and kick someone's teeth in.

And if you can do it -- Jerry needs to get someone who will. 

 

[netnalp]

How does Dez Bryant have 1 reception for 8 yards?

the TD bobble - ok, that happens. But was he even targeted again after that? 

And biggest moment of the game, the single most critical play, they'd rather trust T. Williams than Dez to get out of bounds? At least Dez pointed in the right dirction. 

would anyone be surprised to see a Dez-centric gameplan next week? I'm thinking he might be vocal about that this week in practice. Just sayin. If my fantasy team is facing the Dez team, I'm nervous. 

Jenkins had great coverage on him. Collins & DRC also defended passes against him. Giants weren't letting him take the top off the defense and were giving up the underneath stuff.

 

[Bankerguy]

Jenkins had great coverage on him. Collins & DRC also defended passes against him. Giants weren't letting him take the top off the defense and were giving up the underneath stuff.

Then call a freaking slant to Dez.

26 of 45 attempts were targeted to Witten or Beasley.

 

[BigTex]

amen to that !!! 

Tired of JG rah-rah bs press conferences every week...we need to learn from this and get better..waa waa...  how many years before we learn how to win.

Be a coach, teach them how to go out and kick someone's teeth in.

And if you can do it -- Jerry needs to get someone who will. 

The main problem is JG is not a leader! Anytime a coach says we took what they gave us is NOT a leader. When the head coach has that mindset it will trickle down to the players and that's the danger in it all. 

Tex

 

[netnalp]

 Way too concervative. Agree that we need to find a way not telegraph our run/pass plays. 

I only saw one screen but the Giants didn't blitz much. 

Carl Banks agrees. Said the Giants were able to cover the deep ball so well because they didn't have to load the box or blitz to stop the run.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Page 6 fellas.

Good news is we get Washington this week and they haven't had "extra" time to game plan like the Giants did. They also don't have Hankins, JPP and now Vernon(sp?). 

We score a few more TDs this week, 

Dallas 31

Washington 24 

 

[Bankerguy]

I just cant get excited

 

[Tyrion]

I am pumped.  It's going to be a good game.

 

[metoo]

A win is a win. Morris better start next week.

 

[money.never.sleeps]

A win is a win. Morris better start next week.

True plus we got a future QB boys.... skins aren't very good but writings on the wall.  Tony plays when he comes back but next year will be interesting esp if stephen takes on more control of yhe team.  

 

[BigTex]

A win is a win. Morris better start next week.

I would start Zeke but give Morris more touches. Zeke is a better athlete but Morris is a more experience runner. They need to get there running backs more involved in the passing game.

Tex

 

[Bob Magaw]

NFL Analyst: "Dak Prescott Is Going To Be A Star."



 



For Steven Ruiz of USA Today, one play was all it took to realize the Cowboys have found their new franchise QB.


http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/9/21/12998784/nfl-analyst-dak-prescott-is-going-to-be-a-star-jared-goff-carson-wentz-paxton-lynch

* Nice bit about where he fits by Parcell's QB rules compared to the other top QB prospects from the class of '16. 

 

[dhockster]

NFL Analyst: "Dak Prescott Is Going To Be A Star."



 



For Steven Ruiz of USA Today, one play was all it took to realize the Cowboys have found their new franchise QB.


http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/9/21/12998784/nfl-analyst-dak-prescott-is-going-to-be-a-star-jared-goff-carson-wentz-paxton-lynch

* Nice bit about where he fits by Parcell's QB rules compared to the other top QB prospects from the class of '16. 

What's interesting about that is Wentz only scored a 4 just because he fell just under Parcells needed college experience. He started only 2 years instead of 3, started only 23 games instead of 30, and won 20 games instead of 23. If you say he was close enough to give him credit for those, then he would score a 7 just like Dak. Gee, those two haven't been very successful in their first 3 games, have they?

 

[Bob Magaw]

What's interesting about that is Wentz only scored a 4 just because he fell just under Parcells needed college experience. He started only 2 years instead of 3, started only 23 games instead of 30, and won 20 games instead of 23. If you say he was close enough to give him credit for those, then he would score a 7 just like Dak. Gee, those two haven't been very successful in their first 3 games, have they?

It is a good guideline but not perfect (no heuristic could be). Cook scored high but doesn't appear to have a very bright future.

Cam Newton was a JUCO star that only started one season at Auburn, I think. Tom Brady didn't start a lot of games. Always exceptions. Basically, QB is by far the hardest position to scout, because so much is based on intangibles and "inner", hidden qualities like ability to process quickly, football smarts, toughness, leadership, charisma, composure, probably a thousand intangibles.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

La'el Collins to IR.

And so it begins

 

[Bankerguy]

La'el Collins to IR.

And so it begins

Which is why Trading Leary was not a good idea.

Also hearing DLaw is not recovering well from back surgery. Tap the brakes on him making a huge impact Week 5.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Which is why Trading Leary was not a good idea.

Also hearing DLaw is not recovering well from back surgery. Tap the brakes on him making a huge impact Week 5.

I think you mean Tapper, right? DLaw will be back week 5.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Todd ArcherESPN Staff Writer 

With Tyron Smith suffering back spasms and Doug Free working through a quadriceps strain, the Dallas Cowboys will sign offensive tackle Emmett Cleary, who was cut earlier this month by the New York Giants. Before the signing is official, the Cowboys have to clear a roster spot. Cleary was among a number of players the Cowboys worked out after the season opener. The Cowboys don't believe Smith's injury is severe, but Cleary offers some insurance.

 

[Bankerguy]

I think you mean Tapper, right? DLaw will be back week 5.

Apparently drunk Jerry said in an interview that D Law was having limitations and not to expect anything. Reporters have asked DLaw directly and he claims he is fine. Gotta love Jerry.  You are correct on Tapper though/

 

[Bankerguy]

We  have a three page thread after 3 weeks of play, this thread is currently sitting on Page 4 of the SP on the same day we learned our Stud WR breaks his knee.  It's a different world.

 

[th3f00l]

I've tried to be cautiously optimistic. The win against Chicago we looked good, but it was Chicago. The knee fracture is hairline right? I don't know man. I guess I may have posted in here more if I saw the thread, but I am just waiting to see what we have. 

The secondary had been the biggest surprise to start. The boys look solid. I'm hopeful, but I would like to see zeke get fed more. The fumbles are disconcerting, but once he gets going he should be fun to watch. Posession is the name of the game. Keep the defense fresh and healthy. 

 

[Bankerguy]

I've tried to be cautiously optimistic. The win against Chicago we looked good, but it was Chicago. The knee fracture is hairline right? I don't know man. I guess I may have posted in here more if I saw the thread, but I am just waiting to see what we have. 

The secondary had been the biggest surprise to start. The boys look solid. I'm hopeful, but I would like to see zeke get fed more. The fumbles are disconcerting, but once he gets going he should be fun to watch. Posession is the name of the game. Keep the defense fresh and healthy. 

Speaking of Zeke and feeding....he has got to stop the "feed me" after every first down. It's cringe worthy.

 

[th3f00l]

Speaking of Zeke and feeding....he has got to stop the "feed me" after every first down. It's cringe worthy.

I kind of like it. As long as he's getting those first downs. Helps get him pumped and hopefully annoys the opposition. 

 

[Bankerguy]

Get off my lawn...I must be getting old as I think he could save it for when something good happens aside from a First Down.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Hopefully Lawrence is what we need. Mayowa has been a disappointment. Maybe Dlaw will free him up since he (could) draw the double teams if he's effective. 

Gregory has been working with Haley on technique so at least he appears to be focused and staying busy. 

Thank god we didn't trade Leary with Collins on IR. 

I've been hearing rumblings about freeing up a roster spot to bring in another pass rusher. Collins to IR accomplishes that. 

I believe we are just a couple of productive players away from being a very good team. I keep saying this but pass rush is our most dire need. It's unfortunate that we have actually invested a lot into the position but haven't seen the results yet. 

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

La'el Collins to IR.

And so it begins

Damn you!!!!! 

:shakesfist:

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

We  have a three page thread after 3 weeks of play, this thread is currently sitting on Page 4 of the SP on the same day we learned our Stud WR breaks his knee.  It's a different world.

I thnk it's more of a reflection of this board. It's dying. 

 

[modogg]

I thnk it's more of a reflection of this board. It's dying. 

Eagles 2016 thread is on page 137 

 

[Bankerguy]

Hopefully Lawrence is what we need. Mayowa has been a disappointment. Maybe Dlaw will free him up since he (could) draw the double teams if he's effective. 

Gregory has been working with Haley on technique so at least he appears to be focused and staying busy. 

Thank god we didn't trade Leary with Collins on IR. 

I've been hearing rumblings about freeing up a roster spot to bring in another pass rusher. Collins to IR accomplishes that. 

I believe we are just a couple of productive players away from being a very good team. I keep saying this but pass rush is our most dire need. It's unfortunate that we have actually invested a lot into the position but haven't seen the results yet. 

Ya well Gregory just had 10 more added to his suspension.  Time to cut bait on several players. Go young and re build.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Eagles 2016 thread is on page 137 

That thread was started January 4th. This thread was started this month. By Gary's math, they are averaging 1.37 pages/mo., we are averaging over 3 pages/mo.