2017-18 NBA (Playoffs): A gasping, wheezing thread begs message board poster arguing how Jordan never lost a Finals to just let it die in peace (2 Viewers)

[Dez]

My god 2 missed FT's at the end by Cavs gave Toronto the game tying 3 point shot and LeBron FN James........what other coaches would have gone full court on that ?

I knew once they did that LeBron was driving to the hole if you take it at half court then your taking a long jumper because they are up in your grill.

Toronto having no timeouts helped because if you miss that shot they can't top clock.

Up 14 and missing 3's and leaving them wide open for that 3 hurt my soul but thanks LeBron I don't have to have a miserble rest of the weekend.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

No way Brett Brown would put up with that ####

 

[Capella]

Just imagine how much pressure Lebron will face in game 4 though. 

 

[Dedfin]

The Greatest Of All Time. 

There is no doubt in my mind, We should all be glad to see him play.

 

[Stuart Ullman]

How can you not love Lebron James? That was amazing.

 

[Dez]

Remember when he was first with the Cavs and so many called him not clutch.  Getting on some real teams with some real players helps that first run with the Cavs was garbage players and so he wasn't clutch.

 

[trader jake]

Dwane Casey is commiting head coaching suicide right in front of our eyes.  Single LeBron with the game on the line?  Um, if you say so Dwane.

 

[Bobcat10]

No way Brett Brown would put up with that ####

 

[Dedfin]

No way Brett Brown would put up with that ####

 

[Frostillicus]

Dwane Casey is commiting head coaching suicide right in front of our eyes.  Single LeBron with the game on the line?  Um, if you say so Dwane.

I kept waiting for that dude at the top of the key to run over and double.

 

[Dez]

Last year remember when Cavs lost to GS in the finals everyone said Durant took the torch as the best player in the NBA.  Now everyone keeps saying LeBron is the best player ?  Why they saying this ?  Stephen A Smith #### your the same guy who is saying LeBron is the best player on the planet today but if/when Cavs lose to GS again in the finals you will be saying how Durant is the best player in the NBA because GS has 4 all stars and the Cavs have 1 LeBron. 

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Serious question. Is this James' most impressive individual playoff run?

 

[Capella]

Serious question. Is this James' most impressive individual playoff run?

It might be, yea. 

 

[gump]

My idol has always been Magic...one of the most unique and unstoppable and magical athletes ever.

Lebron is better in every way. 

 

[Dedfin]

Remember when he was first with the Cavs and so many called him not clutch.  Getting on some real teams with some real players helps that first run with the Cavs was garbage players and so he wasn't clutch.

Yeah, I can't even really remember those teams.  Was Larry Hughes the 2nd best player on those teams?

 

[encaitar]

Serious question. Is this James' most impressive individual playoff run?

Maybe.  Stats-wise it probably is, but no matter what anyone says, this team is light years better than the team he dragged to the 2007 Finals, but if he keeps putting up monster games like this it'll be hard to argue.  I think he has to match that Finals appearance minimum IMO to say it's his best.

 

[Synthesizer]

Double teaming Lebron is easier said than done.  He would have found an open teammate which isn't exactly what you want at the buzzer either.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Serious question. Is this James' most impressive individual playoff run?

I think so. He's improved his game, particular his shooting, and it's crazy some of the fade-aways he's dropping. On the Spanish station they were debating if he was the most impressive athlete currently playing in any sport. They threw up a few names but came to a consensus pretty quick. Kang!

 

[Dedfin]

Double teaming Lebron is easier said than done.  He would have found an open teammate which isn't exactly what you want at the buzzer either.

You are probably right, but I think I'd rather Korver or JR Smith beat me than a singled Lebron.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Double teaming Lebron is easier said than done.  He would have found an open teammate which isn't exactly what you want at the buzzer either.

As soon as they decided to go full length, was stunned they didn't double right away. Would have been near impossible to get it back into his hands for a good shot if forced to get rid of it with the limited time left.

 

[Capella]

@DJackson10 fire up some more terrible Lebron takes. I’m into it. 

 

[Capella]

Lebron has Ray Allen to thank for 1 of them though. Riley didn't budge on Lebron's demands during contract time his second go around so Lebron went back to Cleveland who he knew were pushovers. Also in Mia Lebron a very good veteran in D Wade as well as other veterans around. However Lebron did try to get Spoelstra fired early on. Who's to say if he went to Philly he wouldn't try to get Brown fired in the first month? Lebron doesn't like being told what to do. People always get on MJ with coaches but as much as Phil and MJ fought they had a mutual respect there. MJ knew what lines he couldn't cross. I thought it was awful how he and the Cav's went about the Blatt situation. Truly great disrespect there. Just showed you the kind of person player wise this guy was. The James fans will defend him till they are blue in the face but I think Clevland's struggles lately can be contributed to Tyron Lue sucks as a HC and Lebron's micromanaging of the whole roster. IF LAL wants him go ahead. If Philly wants him ok I'll have a nice laugh when he destroys the team and the Sixers are stuck with him out of his prime. Lebron's a great player but he's not the great player I want on my team. I like my stars input but it's not the gospel truth and end all be all decision. I'll take Tim Duncan any day on my team or a Steph Curry. A Lebron no way. 

This is awe-inspiring. 

 

[Kev4029]

Yeah, I can't even really remember those teams.  Was Larry Hughes the 2nd best player on those teams?

Larry Hughes sure thought so.

I think Zydrunas Ilgauskas was probably the second best player on the team, but it was basically Lebron and a bunch of mediocre role players. They were a pretty stout defensively though. Probably Lebron's best defensive team until he went to Miami.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Some brilliant hoops today. I feel bad for Simmons and Long Ball Larry. I feel privileged to witness James pull this ridiculous stuff off.  I'm exhausted. See y'all tomorrow. 

 

[JuniorGong]

Break out the brooms, Phillly up against the Celtics D-League team

 

[Frostillicus]

He’s the best all time, right? 

 

[Ghost Rider]

This is awe-inspiring. 

I assume by awe-inspiring, you mean dense, right? 

 

[Dez]

Serious question. Is this James' most impressive individual playoff run?

That be 2016 beating a 73 win GS team with a 3 game run for the ages in games 5, 6 and 7.

 

[Galileo]

Yeah, I can't even really remember those teams.  Was Larry Hughes the 2nd best player on those teams?

Larry Hughes was with the Cavs for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons.  He played part of the 2007-08 season in CLE.

2003-04 Roster, Lebron's rookie year.  Here's what he started with...

4 Tony Battie C 6-11 230

1 Carlos Boozer PF 6-9 258

3 J.R. Bremer PG 6-2 185

5 Kedrick Brown SF 6-7 222 

8 Mateen Cleaves PG 6-2 205

31 Ricky Davis SG 6-6 195

52 DeSagana Diop C 7-0 300

11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238

23 LeBron James SG 6-8 250

24 Jason Kapono SF 6-8 213

32 Jelani McCoy C 6-10 245

0 Jeff McInnis PG 6-4 190

4 C hris Mihm PF 7-0 265

21 Darius Miles SF 6-9 210

54 Lee Nailon SF 6-9 238

14 Ira Newble SF 6-7 220

12 Kevin Ollie PG 6-4 195

13 Michael Stewart PF 6-10 230

41 Bruno Sundov C 7-2 220

2 Dajuan Wagner SG 6-2 200

55 Eric Williams

2009-10 roster, last season before taking his talents to south beach

1 Daniel Gibson PG 6-2 190    

14 Danny Green SG 6-6 215    

21 J.J. Hickson PF 6-9 242   

11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238   

9 Cedric Jackson PG 6-3 191   

00 Darnell Jackson PF 6-9 253    

23 LeBron James SF 6-8 250    

4 Antawn Jamison PF 6-8 223   

5 Coby Karl SG 6-5 215   

15 Jamario Moon SF 6-8 205   

33 Shaquille O'Neal C 7-1 325  

18 Anthony Parker SG 6-6 215   

44 Leon Powe SF 6-8 240   

3 Sebastian Telfair PG 6-0 165  

17 Anderson Varejao PF 6-10 273  

13 Delonte West SG 6-4 180   

31 Jawad Williams PG 6-9 218 

2 Mo Williams

 

[Dedfin]

Larry Hughes was with the Cavs for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons.  He played part of the 2007-08 season in CLE.

2003 Roster, Lebron's rookie year.  Here's what he started with...

4 Tony Battie C 6-11 230

1 Carlos Boozer PF 6-9 258

3 J.R. Bremer PG 6-2 185

5 Kedrick Brown SF 6-7 222 

8 Mateen Cleaves PG 6-2 205

31 Ricky Davis SG 6-6 195

52 DeSagana Diop C 7-0 300

11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238

23 LeBron James SG 6-8 250

24 Jason Kapono SF 6-8 213

32 Jelani McCoy C 6-10 245

0 Jeff McInnis PG 6-4 190

4 C hris Mihm PF 7-0 265

21 Darius Miles SF 6-9 210

54 Lee Nailon SF 6-9 238

14 Ira Newble SF 6-7 220

12 Kevin Ollie PG 6-4 195

13 Michael Stewart PF 6-10 230

41 Bruno Sundov C 7-2 220

2 Dajuan Wagner SG 6-2 200

55 Eric Williams

2009 roster, last season before taking his talents to south beach

1 Daniel Gibson PG 6-2 190    

14 Danny Green SG 6-6 215    

21 J.J. Hickson PF 6-9 242   

11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238   

9 Cedric Jackson PG 6-3 191   

00 Darnell Jackson PF 6-9 253    

23 LeBron James SF 6-8 250    

4 Antawn Jamison PF 6-8 223   

5 Coby Karl SG 6-5 215   

15 Jamario Moon SF 6-8 205   

33 Shaquille O'Neal C 7-1 325  

18 Anthony Parker SG 6-6 215   

44 Leon Powe SF 6-8 240   

3 Sebastian Telfair PG 6-0 165  

17 Anderson Varejao PF 6-10 273  

13 Delonte West SG 6-4 180   

31 Jawad Williams PG 6-9 218 

2 Mo Williams

I remember thinking Sebastian Telfair was going to be great.

 

[Dez]

Actually LeBron played in Cleveland in 2010 as well the year they lost to Boston in the 2nd round.

Unless u mean the 2009-2010 season I always go with the year the season ends.

 

[GoBirds]

LeBron is a beast. People that hate on him just aren’t very smart. 

 

[Stuart Ullman]

The craziest thing about Lebron winning that game, is the fact that I've NEVER seen him take a shot like that. A ####### floater off the glass from at least 10 feet out. Literally, you could tell it was an off-the-cuff type of move. He drills it in.

 

[Adderall Slim]

I almost always root against Boston sports. But modogg is a complete fraud of a poster, watching this mental midget try to justify what’s occurring is delightful.

 

[Dedfin]

I almost always root against Boston sports. But modogg is a complete fraud of a poster, watching this mental midget try to justify what’s occurring is delightful.

This is extremely uncool.  You should consider a different way to address your disagreements.

 

[Galileo]

Actually LeBron played in Cleveland in 2010 as well the year they lost to Boston in the 2nd round.

Unless u mean the 2009-2010 season I always go with the year the season ends.

Yes, that is for 2009-10.  

 

[Dedfin]

Ok..... so which was bigger?

Lebron's Shot

Michael's Shot

 

[modogg]

I almost always root against Boston sports. But modogg is a complete fraud of a poster, watching this mental midget try to justify what’s occurring is delightful.

hmm, with a user name of Adderall Slim, let's put this all in to context. Fraud of a poster is interesting, so I don't actually like the Sixers? Are you suggesting i enjoy Boston sports scene? Mental midget is cute, glad you came up with that as well. 

Ahh, i see you posted this at 5 A.M. this morning. So i am guessing you are not using Adderall for medicinal reasons and you are simply a junkie. Ok, carry on... Look forward to further insight from this fine posting again. 

and yes, i am a sucker for  attempts from time to time. 

ETA: i am guessing an alias for Shamrock Pride? Same posters who start this series crying it won't be a series and now are running all over the place bragging how good they are, calling out Lebron. Worked well for Brown last year

 

[modogg]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774511-jaylen-brown-talks-3-0-series-lead-says-he-was-taught-not-to-play-with-his-food

https://twitter.com/NBCSCeltics

all on bleacherreport front page

and now we have Celtics' fans tweeting Fultz's mom:

https://twitter.com/MarkelleF/status/992983055747993600

ShamrockPride? Adderral Slim (i'm embarrased even typing that out)

ok, off the soapbox for now. carry on...

 

[msudaisy26]

The last 48 hours in this thread is .

Even worse than last year during the playoffs.

 

[Britney Spears]

I stopped liking when the super teams started. I think a lot of todays players are big babies and so entitled too. 

How far back are we talking? Like when the Rockets got Drexler? Bulls got Rodman?

 

[Chaos Commish]

The last 48 hours in this thread is .

Even worse than last year during the playoffs.

I avoided this thread for a few years because it was you know. I found that can be mitigated with an ignore list worthy of the political forum. Also my favorite NBA discussion moved behind a subscription wall so when Cappy threatens to take this down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWM

I haven't missed the implications of me being a contributor now and it being worse than ever either.  :(

Feeling pumped for the early game but it could just be the tequila sunrise mimosas for breakfast.

 

[Chaos Commish]

How far back are we talking? Like when the Rockets got Drexler? Bulls got Rodman?

Lakers got Wilt.

 

[Galileo]

Ok..... so which was bigger?

Lebron's Shot

Michael's Shot

I am a Cleveland homer, but I have to tip the cap to Michael on this.  Both are difficult shots...Lebron's probably a little more so, but Michael's clinched the game and the series.  The Cavs had dominated the Bulls in the regular season, and Michael's shot was the upset clincher...just a bigger moment overall.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Over his last 30 postseason games, Lebron is averaging 33.5 points, 9.3 rebounds and 8.4 assists, while shooting 55.7% from the floor.  MJ and Kobe have a combined total of 10 playoff games with at least 33 points, 9 rebounds and 8 assists in their careers. Zero shooting better than 55%.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I am a Cleveland homer, but I have to tip the cap to Michael on this.  Both are difficult shots...Lebron's probably a little more so, but Michael's clinched the game and the series.  The Cavs had dominated the Bulls in the regular season, and Michael's shot was the upset clincher...just a bigger moment overall.

A bigger moment for sure, but the shot was pretty standard fare. Lebron broke out some high speed high flying ballet ninja #### we've never seen before then advised us not to try it at home. 

 

[Galileo]

A bigger moment for sure, but the shot was pretty standard fare. Lebron broke out some high speed high flying ballet ninja #### we've never seen before then advised us not to try it at home. 

Standard fare?  Eh...High pressure moment of a big game, moving to the left, shooting with the right over a defender with a hand in your face...a little more than standard fare IMO.

 

[modogg]

How far back are we talking? Like when the Rockets got Drexler? Bulls got Rodman?

Lakers got Wilt.

yeah there are more then i thought thinking about it. Barkley went to that same Rockets team as clyde did. LA had a run of attempts bringing in Nash and Malone too, albeit when they were a little long in the tooth

 

[Balco]

and now we have Celtics' fans tweeting Fultz's mom:

https://twitter.com/MarkelleF/status/992983055747993600

ShamrockPride? Adderral Slim (i'm embarrased even typing that out)

ok, off the soapbox for now. carry on...

I never got the lumping an entire teams fans into the same category because of a few knuckleheads. A philly fan should understand.

 

[modogg]

I never got the lumping an entire teams fans into the same category because of a few knuckleheads. A philly fan should understand.

yeah i definitely do. and it sucks when it happens, because i have seen plenty of Philly fans call out the idiot one's. so you aren't wrong