2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (2 Viewers)

[AAABatteries]

In case anyone is wondering, THIS is a clear example of targeting.

I don't think the ref even had time to put on the headset before they confirmed it.

Seems borderline

 

[AAABatteries]

So you'd take a 1 loss ND over 1 loss UGA despite who the Irish lost to?

Duh, of course.

 

[AAABatteries]

@Fat Drunk and Stupid > hi

 

[JaxBill]

I think that easily happens. The committee will just treat the SECCG like a play in game. Why have UGA lose to Bama in the middle of December just to turn around and play them at the end of the month in the 1/4 game?

If there aren’t enough 1 loss teams at that point sure, but UGA could much more easily withstand a loss to Auburn and win the SECCG to get in that having the reverse happen. 

So the SECCG is a play-in while ND sips cocoa by the fire on a bye.

Good thing UGA listened to the critics and increased the OOC schedule difficulty only to have it ignored.

 

[bigmarc27]

So the SECCG is a play-in while ND sips cocoa by the fire on a bye.

Good thing UGA listened to the critics and increased the OOC schedule difficulty only to have it ignored.

ND always gets the benefit. I don’t like it, but I don’t make the rules. I’d prefer for them to get screwed and forced to join the ACC, but they’ve been getting special treatment for decades.  

Also i think it’s funny that Gump liked your post. If Bama loses to UGA, I have no doubt that Bama will get preferential treatment and get into the playoff. Bama gets the benefit of the doubt just like ND... only difference is that they’ve at least earned it this century. 

 

[Native]

I think Clemson loses to South Carolina and beats Miami. Also see Wisconsin stumbling. 

That leaves four teams standing.

Bama

Oklahoma/TCU

Georgia (who stay ahead of the Irish even with  loss)

Notre Dame

If Clemson runs the table, one team is going to be left out and pissed off.

 

[AAABatteries]

Would a scenario where ND gets left out push them to join the ACC full-time?  I don't follow those kind of things so not sure if it would matter in any way or not.

 

[bigmarc27]

Would a scenario where ND gets left out push them to join the ACC full-time?  I don't follow those kind of things so not sure if it would matter in any way or not.

This one instance, probably not. It would be the biggest kick to them staying as an independent.  I don’t know how they’d react to having the same win / loss record and getting left out because they didn’t win a conference. I also can’t imagine it happens, though. 

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I don't get arguments about teams having lost to another team in a championship game?  From any conference.

If you lose to a team bound for the final 4, that would seem to be better than losing to a team not in the final 4?   But that other argument is saying that CLE losing to SYR isn't a big deal.  Or OKL losing to ISU (at home no less) is OK.  But if UGA loses to ALA, now that is a big deal.  I'm hoping the people making this argument work at like Taco Bell, and aren't doing anything important in our world.

 

[bigmarc27]

I don't get arguments about teams having lost to another team in a championship game?  From any conference.

If you lose to a team bound for the final 4, that would seem to be better than losing to a team not in the final 4?   But that other argument is saying that CLE losing to SYR isn't a big deal.  Or OKL losing to ISU (at home no less) is OK.  But if UGA loses to ALA, now that is a big deal.  I'm hoping the people making this argument work at like Taco Bell, and aren't doing anything important in our world.

I don’t get arguments where people think this playoff is purely about football and not about ratings.  Nobody will want to watch Bama and UGA play each other twice in 3 weeks.  If you get a playoff with Bama, ND, Clemson, and UGA, do you know who doesn’t watch?  Im guessing that probably everyone west of the Mississippi decides that they don’t want to tune in. 

 

[gump]

Just to pile on Meyer...he often gets compared to Saban.  This was the 2nd time in the last 10 games that Meyer's team has lost by 31 points.  Saban's largest loss in 10 years at Alabama is 14 pts.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Just to pile on Meyer...he often gets compared to Saban.  This was the 2nd time in the last 10 games that Meyer's team has lost by 31 points.  Saban's largest loss in 10 years at Alabama is 14 pts.

Saban's Bama did lose to Louisiana Monroe, though, so it's not like he's without a few bad losses of his own.  Granted it was his first year there.

 

[The Commish]

Would a scenario where ND gets left out push them to join the ACC full-time?  I don't follow those kind of things so not sure if it would matter in any way or not.

Heck no....they've got the perfect set up from the ACC.  There's no reason to change.

 

[JaxBill]

I don’t get arguments where people think this playoff is purely about football and not about ratings.  Nobody will want to watch Bama and UGA play each other twice in 3 weeks.  If you get a playoff with Bama, ND, Clemson, and UGA, do you know who doesn’t watch?  Im guessing that probably everyone west of the Mississippi decides that they don’t want to tune in. 

But you think Bama, ND, Clemson, Oklahoma would make it must see TV ?

And if UGA is still #1 and  loses to #2 Bama then drop them to 3 and make Bama the 1 seed. I'm just saying that on merit they should be ahead of a team they beat H2H.

1 Bama vs  4 Oklahoma/Wisc/ND

2 Clemson/Miami vs  3 UGA

And if you're worried about a repeat in the championship game then you're admitting who you think the 2 best teams are.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

If Georgia's only loss is a close loss to Bama it makes zero sense to put ND in over them.

A close loss to the #1 team as their only loss with several quality wins and a head to head victory against the other team in consideration at their house at night.  It's not even like ND would have a conference title as a tiebreaker.

Things that are not supposed to matter

1. When you lose
   
2. TV ratings
   

These are the only reasons there would be for ND getting in over Georgia, but neither should matter.

 

[bigmarc27]

But you think Bama, ND, Clemson, Oklahoma would make it must see TV ?

And if UGA is still #1 and  loses to #2 Bama then drop them to 3 and make Bama the 1 seed. I'm just saying that on merit they should be ahead of a team they beat H2H.

1 Bama vs  4 Oklahoma/Wisc/ND

2 Clemson/Miami vs  3 UGA

And if you're worried about a repeat in the championship game then you're admitting who you think the 2 best teams are.

I never said I thought those would be the top 4, I just used the current standings. 

I also didn’t say they would meet in the championship game. There are semifinal matchups.  I’m pretty sure I explicitly stated that it would be the 1/4 matchup. 

Regardless, I’m not anti-UGA. My brother is actually a student there right now. I’m just being realistic.  They probably lose to Bama and no one is going to want to watch a game they just saw a few weeks prior. 

 

[bigmarc27]

If Georgia's only loss is a close loss to Bama it makes zero sense to put ND in over them.

A close loss to the #1 team as their only loss with several quality wins and a head to head victory against the other team in consideration at their house at night.  It's not even like ND would have a conference title as a tiebreaker.

Things that are not supposed to matter

1. When you lose
   
2. TV ratings
   

These are the only reasons there would be for ND getting in over Georgia, but neither should matter.

All that sounds great, but that’s not the world we live in. The playoff was set up from the get go as a ratings grab and to make money. There is no bigger ratings grab and money maker than ND. I don’t like it, but I know the lay of the land. 

If they wanted it fair from the start with football records actually mattering, every conference would have an autobid. That’s not the case. 

 

[NutterButter]

Regardless, I’m not anti-UGA. My brother is actually a student there right now. I’m just being realistic.  They probably lose to Bama and no one is going to want to watch a game they just saw a few weeks prior. 

They would if it was an exciting game.   I think most college football fans would be fine with round 3 of Bama and Clemson.    I do agree that's it pretty obvious that ND is the biggest draw (more people either love or hate them) so that plays a part.   Its not like we're talking about a 2 loss ND team vs a 1 loss Georgia team.   Its a 1 point loss in what would be 11 weeks prior to a team that just loss.   In any other polling if Georgia was 2 and ND 3 and Georgia loses, they'd drop below ND.   

 

[bigmarc27]

They would if it was an exciting game.   I think most college football fans would be fine with round 3 of Bama and Clemson.    I do agree that's it pretty obvious that ND is the biggest draw (more people either love or hate them) so that plays a part.   Its not like we're talking about a 2 loss ND team vs a 1 loss Georgia team.   Its a 1 point loss in what would be 11 weeks prior to a team that just loss.   In any other polling if Georgia was 2 and ND 3 and Georgia loses, they'd drop below ND.   

Speaking as a Clemson alum, I think Bama would throttle us in a 3rd game. We’re not the same team as the last two years. This Clemson team reminds me a bit of the FSU team after their title year when they were taken out by Mariota in the Rose Bowl.  Even the defense which was very strong early in the season has given up a lot of points in the past few weeks.  I’ll of course be happy if we make it to the playoff, but I’m not going to be surprised at all if we stumble in these last few games. 

 

[General Malaise]

Stewart Mandel's Top 10:

 

1. Georgia (9-0): The committee made the correct decision last week. I followed suit this week after the Dawgs went and beat 6-2 South Carolina 24-10. This week brings arguably their biggest test of the regular season at 7-2 Auburn.

2. Alabama (9-0): The Tide mostly kept LSU at bay in its 24-10 victory, but may have lost LBs Shaun Dion Hamilton (knee) and Mack Wilson (foot) for the season. Star DB Minkah Fitzpatrick injured his hamstring. Will Alabama’s depth be tested for once?

3. Clemson (8-1): N.C. State QB Ryan Finley gave Clemson fits early, but the Tigers ultimately picked him off twice in a 38-31 road win. Clemson now owns three wins against current Top 25 teams and seven against teams with a .500 or better record.

4. Notre Dame (8-1): The Irish just keep throttling people. They led Wake Forest by as much as a 41-16 margin despite star RB Josh Adams sitting out the second half. And Michigan State and USC helped the résumé with their own wins Saturday.

5. Oklahoma (8-1): Baker Mayfield will likely lead every Heisman poll after throwing for nearly 600 yards in the Sooners’ 62-52 Bedlam win. OU to its credit has posted its two biggest wins of the season — Ohio State and Oklahoma State — on the road.

6. Miami (8-0): Miami finally got its signature win Saturday thanks to a suffocating defense. The ’Canes held Virginia Tech under 300 yards and collected four turnovers in a 28-10 rout. Can they turn around and do the same thing to visiting Notre Dame?

7. TCU (8-1): TCU is the rare Big 12 team that can win with its defense. Saturday’s 24-7 win against Texas marked its fourth consecutive game holding an opponent to 14 points or less. Does that give the Horned Frogs a shot this week against the Sooners?

8. Wisconsin (9-0): It was good to see RB Jonathan Taylor back at it, with 29 carries for 183 yards in a 45-17 rout of Indiana. The Badgers may be the Big Ten’s last remaining Playoff hope — and their best win came against Northwestern, now 6-3.

9. Washington (8-1): The largely forgotten Huskies entered Saturday leading the nation in fewest yards per play allowed and will likely stay there after silencing Oregon 38-3. The Huskies turn around and visit 6-3 Stanford on Friday night.

10. Penn State (7-2): Penn State is my top-ranked two-loss team. The Nittany Lions have come back to earth, but both of their losses were at the last second on the road against Top 25 foes. They routed 7-2 Michigan and won road games against 6-3 Iowa and Northwestern.

Baker Mayfield now -200 to win the Heisman.  Barkley +150.  Everybody else above +1000.  

Miami/ND is enormous.  Miami +3 is a home dog. 

College football is awesome.

 

[Capella]

All that sounds great, but that’s not the world we live in. The playoff was set up from the get go as a ratings grab and to make money. There is no bigger ratings grab and money maker than ND. I don’t like it, but I know the lay of the land. 

If they wanted it fair from the start with football records actually mattering, every conference would have an autobid. That’s not the case. 

That wouldn't be fair at all. A lot of these conferences are trash. 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

So the SECCG is a play-in while ND sips cocoa by the fire on a bye.

Good thing UGA listened to the critics and increased the OOC schedule difficulty only to have it ignored.

Hypothetically let's say Clemson, Oklahoma and Notre Dame win out.  Alabama and UGA win out until SECCG and Bama beats UGA 28-27 in that game.

Who would you leave out of the playoff in that scenario?  FWIW, so you don't think I'm assuming the answer should be UGA I will state that UGA should definitely be in under that scenario.

 

[AAABatteries]

I’m not anti-UGA.

I am - give them the death penalty.

BTW, you just made the list.

 

[General Malaise]

Hypothetically let's say Clemson, Oklahoma and Notre Dame win out.  Alabama and UGA win out until SECCG and Bama beats UGA 28-27 in that game.

Who would you leave out of the playoff in that scenario?  FWIW, so you don't think I'm assuming the answer should be UGA I will state that UGA should definitely be in under that scenario.

I honestly have no idea what the answer is - great question.  Part of me hopes we see this because I'm curious what the committee will decide.  Hope they handout Tums with their hats.

 

[AAABatteries]

Hypothetically let's say Clemson, Oklahoma and Notre Dame win out.  Alabama and UGA win out until SECCG and Bama beats UGA 28-27 in that game.

Who would you leave out of the playoff in that scenario?  FWIW, so you don't think I'm assuming the answer should be UGA I will state that UGA should definitely be in under that scenario.

I think the committee would have an “easy” time leaving UGA out in that scenario - flip the SECCG to UGA winning 28-27 and then it gets even more interesting.  Bama and Saban or ND and TD Jesus?

 

[JaxBill]

Hypothetically let's say Clemson, Oklahoma and Notre Dame win out.  Alabama and UGA win out until SECCG and Bama beats UGA 28-27 in that game.

Who would you leave out of the playoff in that scenario?  FWIW, so you don't think I'm assuming the answer should be UGA I will state that UGA should definitely be in under that scenario.

Either Oklahoma or Notre Dame. Oklahoma could be hurt by the perception that their conference doesn't play defense. Notre Dame could be hurt by being idle conference championship weekend.

As I mentioned above, I think my rankings would look

1. Bama 

2.  Clemson

3. UGA

4. ND / Oklahoma / Wisc.

 

[General Malaise]

Miami fans Miami-ing

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Either Oklahoma or Notre Dame. Oklahoma could be hurt by the perception that their conference doesn't play defense. Notre Dame could be hurt by being idle conference championship weekend.

As I mentioned above, I think my rankings would look

1. Bama 

2.  Clemson

3. UGA

4. ND / Oklahoma / Wisc.

That was gonna be my personal answer except it's not just the conference it's Oklahoma doesn't play defense.  But a November/December with three wins over Oklahoma St/TCU and win at Ohio State certainly is resume worthy.

I also think Clemson would get benefit of the doubt being defending champs (and their QB missed half of the game they lost) and Notre Dame's name will help them.

 

[JaxBill]

Another source of heartburn would be Miami beating Notre Dame but losing to Clemson in ACCCG.

 

[baymen]

Miami fans Miami-ing

Going to game against Notre Dame next week.  Daughter attends Miami and she said there is always fights at each game.  

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I feel like you guys are totally ignoring Gump's post about Bama being down to it's second group of 5 stars at linebacker. No way they make it through the @MSU, Mercer, @Auburn gauntlet unscathed.

 

[jplvr]

I feel like you guys are totally ignoring Gump's post about Bama being down to it's second group of 5 stars at linebacker. No way they make it through the @MSU, Mercer, @Auburn gauntlet unscathed.

I'm sure there's some sarcasm here I've missed, but while I feel like Bama comes through all of those just fine, I'm not optimistic about beating Georgia at all.

 

[gump]

I'm sure there's some sarcasm here I've missed, but while I feel like Bama comes through all of those just fine, I'm not optimistic about beating Georgia at all.

This...a stud recruit freshman LB is not anywhere near the same as a stud recruit 4th year LB.  It's going to play a part.  And secondary would be a way to lessen the impact, but now the best player there (and on the team) is hurt.  The next 3 SEC games will be tough. 

 

[Capella]

I feel like you guys are totally ignoring Gump's post about Bama being down to it's second group of 5 stars at linebacker. No way they make it through the @MSU, Mercer, @Auburn gauntlet unscathed.

lol

 

[Dickie Dunn]

The updated "Dickie Dunn ratings" through this weekend:

POS. TEAM W L W-SHARE L-SHARE KRAtio KRACH
1 Georgia 9 0 7.84 1.16 547.03 1
2 Notre Dame 8 1 7.28 1.72 542.93 4
3 Alabama 9 0 8.07 0.93 432.58 5
4 Clemson 8 1 7.09 1.91 432.33 7
5 Penn State 7 2 7.10 1.90 426.39 14
6 Wisconsin 9 0 7.67 1.33 317.74 6
7 Washington 8 1 7.58 1.42 248.22 18
8 Ohio State 7 2 6.46 2.54 240.32 16
9 Virginia Tech 7 2 6.71 2.29 238.73 15
10 TCU 8 1 7.01 1.99 236.17 12
11 Miami FL 8 0 5.90 2.10 222.94 2
12 Michigan St 7 2 5.59 3.41 212.50 11
13 Iowa 6 3 5.78 3.22 195.90 22
14 Michigan 7 2 6.22 2.78 184.39 26
15 Oklahoma 8 1 6.24 2.76 176.35 10
16 Central Florida 8 0 6.64 1.36 176.03 3
17 Oklahoma St 7 2 6.24 2.76 169.60 21
18 Iowa St 6 3 5.90 3.10 165.76 27
19 Auburn 7 2 6.65 2.35 162.85 19
20 N.C. State 6 3 5.38 3.62 151.86 23
21 Georgia Tech 4 4 4.97 3.03 143.03 48
22 Southern Cal 8 2 6.24 3.76 132.67 13
23 Mississippi St 7 2 6.34 2.66 129.30 17
24 Wake Forest 5 4 5.22 3.78 124.78 42
25 Northwestern 6 3 4.96 4.04 118.67 25
26 Texas 4 5 5.09 3.91 113.25 59
27 Boston College 5 4 4.39 4.61 109.66 31
28 Washington St 8 2 6.67 3.33 106.05 20
29 West Virginia 6 3 5.45 3.55 98.06 35
30 Boise St 7 2 6.56 2.44 97.51 29
31 Purdue 4 5 5.10 3.90 93.17 76
32 Louisville 5 4 5.06 3.94 92.03 57
33 Florida St 3 5 3.28 4.72 87.07 51
34 Stanford 6 3 5.58 3.42 86.67 33
35 Toledo 8 1 6.42 2.58 83.49 8
36 Syracuse 4 5 4.81 4.19 80.35 52
37 South Florida 8 1 6.91 2.09 78.06 24
38 Arizona 6 3 5.42 3.58 77.08 34
39 Indiana 3 6 4.11 4.89 74.85 72
40 Arizona St 5 4 4.62 4.38 72.72 39
41 Texas Tech 4 5 4.59 4.41 71.81 54
42 Minnesota 4 5 4.83 4.17 71.07 86
43 LSU 6 3 5.06 3.94 70.89 30
44 South Carolina 6 3 4.89 4.11 68.20 32
45 Pittsburgh 4 5 4.17 4.83 66.76 67
46 Nebraska 4 5 4.19 4.81 66.32 65
47 San Diego St 8 2 6.33 3.67 63.92 28
48 California 5 5 5.10 4.90 61.45 53
49 Fresno St 6 3 5.79 3.21 61.26 63
50 Virginia 6 3 4.76 4.24 60.27 46
51 Oregon 5 5 4.79 5.21 60.12 45
52 Marshall 6 3 6.21 2.79 59.34 61
53 Northern Ill. 6 3 5.62 3.38 58.99 44
54 Houston 6 3 5.38 3.62 58.91 37
55 SMU 6 3 5.31 3.69 58.58 36
56 Memphis 8 1 5.57 3.43 58.09 9
57 Kansas St 5 4 4.97 4.03 57.98 62
58 Duke 4 5 4.30 4.70 57.35 71
59 Texas A&M 5 4 4.61 4.39 56.28 38
60 Utah 5 4 5.15 3.85 56.10 60
61 Maryland 4 5 3.54 5.46 55.34 55
62 UCLA 4 5 4.12 4.88 50.45 56
63 Fla. Atlantic 6 3 5.50 3.50 48.88 49
64 Navy 5 3 4.36 3.64 48.22 41
65 Vanderbilt 4 5 4.56 4.44 48.01 78
66 Colorado 5 5 5.31 4.69 47.31 73
67 Missouri 4 5 4.35 4.65 45.45 74
68 Florida 3 5 3.13 4.87 45.31 68
69 Rutgers 4 5 3.88 5.12 45.09 84
70 Kentucky 6 3 4.85 4.15 44.11 47
71 Arkansas St 5 2 4.99 2.01 41.47 85
72 Tennessee 4 5 4.07 4.93 41.17 75
73 Army 7 2 5.77 3.23 40.37 50
74 North Carolina 1 8 2.76 6.24 39.32 116
75 E. Michigan 3 6 4.94 4.06 39.30 100
76 Ohio U. 7 2 5.94 3.06 36.70 69
77 Mississippi 4 5 4.04 4.96 36.47 70
78 Wyoming 6 3 5.12 3.88 35.64 64
79 W. Michigan 5 4 5.00 4.00 35.19 82
80 Utah St 5 5 5.07 4.93 30.48 90
81 Tulane 3 6 4.06 4.94 30.38 80
82 Buffalo 3 6 4.49 4.51 29.43 101
83 Temple 4 5 4.10 4.90 29.33 81
84 Akron 5 4 4.37 4.63 29.26 66
85 Colorado St 6 4 5.43 4.57 28.93 87
86 Cincinnati 3 6 3.27 5.73 27.78 83
87 Troy 7 2 5.42 3.58 27.30 43
88 Florida Int'l 6 2 4.57 3.43 27.27 40
89 Miami OH 3 6 4.45 4.55 26.26 102
90 Tulsa 2 8 3.96 6.04 25.66 105
91 Arkansas 4 5 3.59 5.41 25.23 77
92 Middle Tenn. St 4 5 4.01 4.99 24.49 91
93 UNLV 4 5 4.48 4.52 23.95 97
94 Air Force 4 5 4.19 4.81 23.90 96
95 North Texas 6 3 4.44 4.56 23.43 58
96 Baylor 1 8 3.19 5.81 23.35 119
97 Texas-San Ant. 5 3 5.38 2.62 22.68 92
98 Central Mich. 5 4 3.93 5.07 21.36 79
99 Illinois 2 7 2.72 6.28 21.19 108
100 Appalachian St 5 4 5.00 4.00 21.16 106
101 Louisiana Tech 4 5 4.79 4.21 20.13 99
102 Nevada 1 8 3.07 5.93 19.17 121
103 Southern Miss 5 4 4.79 4.21 18.03 88
104 Connecticut 3 6 3.23 5.77 17.69 94
105 Old Dominion 3 6 3.81 5.19 17.06 115
106 East Carolina 2 7 2.25 6.75 17.06 98
107 Ala.-Birmingham 6 3 5.60 3.40 16.42 93
108 Bowling Green 2 7 2.91 6.09 16.33 107
109 Idaho 3 6 4.01 4.99 16.29 110
110 Oregon St 1 8 2.26 6.74 15.99 124
111 Massachusetts 2 7 3.85 5.15 15.36 125
112 New Mexico 3 6 3.43 5.57 15.32 109
113 New Mexico St 4 5 4.35 4.65 15.07 114
114 La.-Lafayette 4 4 3.65 4.35 13.44 103
115 Brigham Young 2 8 3.00 7.00 13.43 120
116 W. Kentucky 5 4 4.61 4.39 13.29 104
117 South Alabama 3 6 3.99 5.01 13.19 112
118 Hawai`i 3 6 3.38 5.62 12.64 117
119 La.-Monroe 4 5 4.16 4.84 12.38 111
120 Kansas 1 8 2.16 6.84 11.69 123
121 Georgia St 5 3 3.90 4.10 11.15 95
122 Coastal Carol. 1 8 2.88 6.12 7.84 128
123 Ball St 2 7 2.45 6.55 7.01 118
124 San Jose St 1 9 1.95 8.05 6.22 129
125 Texas State 2 7 2.87 6.13 5.91 127
126 Ga. Southern 0 8 1.65 6.35 5.83 130
127 Kent St 2 7 1.53 7.47 5.62 113
128 Rice 1 8 1.75 7.25 5.25 126
129 UNC-Charlotte 1 8 1.70 7.30 4.70 122
130 Liberty 5 4 4.27 4.73 4.65 89
131 UTEP 0 9 1.26 7.74 3.18 131


So the top four consensus seem to be right. But interesting that the ratings still love Penn State, Ohio State and Virginia Tech, but don't like Oklahoma. Also, five Big Ten teams in the top 14.

 

[Tiger Fan]

well done with the thread titles this year cappy

 

[AAABatteries]

The updated "Dickie Dunn ratings" through this weekend:

21 Georgia Tech 4 4 4.97 3.03 143.03 48

HA - good one Dickie!

 

[Dickie Dunn]

HA - good one Dickie!

Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. However, Sagarin has GT at 25.

 

[mr. furley]

Miami fans Miami-ing

"With her eyes half-closed, Freitas flails with her open hand at Detective Douglas Ross......"

 

[bigmarc27]

I am - give them the death penalty.

BTW, you just made the list.

Meh, he barely cares about football at all.  If UGA’s professional video gamers made the playoffs, he would probably care then. 

 

[General Malaise]

The updated "Dickie Dunn ratings" through this weekend:

POS. TEAM W L W-SHARE L-SHARE KRAtio KRACH
1 Georgia 9 0 7.84 1.16 547.03 1
2 Notre Dame 8 1 7.28 1.72 542.93 4
3 Alabama 9 0 8.07 0.93 432.58 5
4 Clemson 8 1 7.09 1.91 432.33 7
5 Penn State 7 2 7.10 1.90 426.39 14
6 Wisconsin 9 0 7.67 1.33 317.74 6
7 Washington 8 1 7.58 1.42 248.22 18
8 Ohio State 7 2 6.46 2.54 240.32 16
9 Virginia Tech 7 2 6.71 2.29 238.73 15
10 TCU 8 1 7.01 1.99 236.17 12
11 Miami FL 8 0 5.90 2.10 222.94 2
12 Michigan St 7 2 5.59 3.41 212.50 11
13 Iowa 6 3 5.78 3.22 195.90 22
14 Michigan 7 2 6.22 2.78 184.39 26
15 Oklahoma 8 1 6.24 2.76 176.35 10
16 Central Florida 8 0 6.64 1.36 176.03 3
17 Oklahoma St 7 2 6.24 2.76 169.60 21
18 Iowa St 6 3 5.90 3.10 165.76 27
19 Auburn 7 2 6.65 2.35 162.85 19
20 N.C. State 6 3 5.38 3.62 151.86 23
21 Georgia Tech 4 4 4.97 3.03 143.03 48
22 Southern Cal 8 2 6.24 3.76 132.67 13
23 Mississippi St 7 2 6.34 2.66 129.30 17
24 Wake Forest 5 4 5.22 3.78 124.78 42
25 Northwestern 6 3 4.96 4.04 118.67 25
26 Texas 4 5 5.09 3.91 113.25 59
27 Boston College 5 4 4.39 4.61 109.66 31
28 Washington St 8 2 6.67 3.33 106.05 20
29 West Virginia 6 3 5.45 3.55 98.06 35
30 Boise St 7 2 6.56 2.44 97.51 29
31 Purdue 4 5 5.10 3.90 93.17 76
32 Louisville 5 4 5.06 3.94 92.03 57
33 Florida St 3 5 3.28 4.72 87.07 51
34 Stanford 6 3 5.58 3.42 86.67 33
35 Toledo 8 1 6.42 2.58 83.49 8
36 Syracuse 4 5 4.81 4.19 80.35 52
37 South Florida 8 1 6.91 2.09 78.06 24
38 Arizona 6 3 5.42 3.58 77.08 34
39 Indiana 3 6 4.11 4.89 74.85 72
40 Arizona St 5 4 4.62 4.38 72.72 39
41 Texas Tech 4 5 4.59 4.41 71.81 54
42 Minnesota 4 5 4.83 4.17 71.07 86
43 LSU 6 3 5.06 3.94 70.89 30
44 South Carolina 6 3 4.89 4.11 68.20 32
45 Pittsburgh 4 5 4.17 4.83 66.76 67
46 Nebraska 4 5 4.19 4.81 66.32 65
47 San Diego St 8 2 6.33 3.67 63.92 28
48 California 5 5 5.10 4.90 61.45 53
49 Fresno St 6 3 5.79 3.21 61.26 63
50 Virginia 6 3 4.76 4.24 60.27 46
51 Oregon 5 5 4.79 5.21 60.12 45
52 Marshall 6 3 6.21 2.79 59.34 61
53 Northern Ill. 6 3 5.62 3.38 58.99 44
54 Houston 6 3 5.38 3.62 58.91 37
55 SMU 6 3 5.31 3.69 58.58 36
56 Memphis 8 1 5.57 3.43 58.09 9
57 Kansas St 5 4 4.97 4.03 57.98 62
58 Duke 4 5 4.30 4.70 57.35 71
59 Texas A&M 5 4 4.61 4.39 56.28 38
60 Utah 5 4 5.15 3.85 56.10 60
61 Maryland 4 5 3.54 5.46 55.34 55
62 UCLA 4 5 4.12 4.88 50.45 56
63 Fla. Atlantic 6 3 5.50 3.50 48.88 49
64 Navy 5 3 4.36 3.64 48.22 41
65 Vanderbilt 4 5 4.56 4.44 48.01 78
66 Colorado 5 5 5.31 4.69 47.31 73
67 Missouri 4 5 4.35 4.65 45.45 74
68 Florida 3 5 3.13 4.87 45.31 68
69 Rutgers 4 5 3.88 5.12 45.09 84
70 Kentucky 6 3 4.85 4.15 44.11 47
71 Arkansas St 5 2 4.99 2.01 41.47 85
72 Tennessee 4 5 4.07 4.93 41.17 75
73 Army 7 2 5.77 3.23 40.37 50
74 North Carolina 1 8 2.76 6.24 39.32 116
75 E. Michigan 3 6 4.94 4.06 39.30 100
76 Ohio U. 7 2 5.94 3.06 36.70 69
77 Mississippi 4 5 4.04 4.96 36.47 70
78 Wyoming 6 3 5.12 3.88 35.64 64
79 W. Michigan 5 4 5.00 4.00 35.19 82
80 Utah St 5 5 5.07 4.93 30.48 90
81 Tulane 3 6 4.06 4.94 30.38 80
82 Buffalo 3 6 4.49 4.51 29.43 101
83 Temple 4 5 4.10 4.90 29.33 81
84 Akron 5 4 4.37 4.63 29.26 66
85 Colorado St 6 4 5.43 4.57 28.93 87
86 Cincinnati 3 6 3.27 5.73 27.78 83
87 Troy 7 2 5.42 3.58 27.30 43
88 Florida Int'l 6 2 4.57 3.43 27.27 40
89 Miami OH 3 6 4.45 4.55 26.26 102
90 Tulsa 2 8 3.96 6.04 25.66 105
91 Arkansas 4 5 3.59 5.41 25.23 77
92 Middle Tenn. St 4 5 4.01 4.99 24.49 91
93 UNLV 4 5 4.48 4.52 23.95 97
94 Air Force 4 5 4.19 4.81 23.90 96
95 North Texas 6 3 4.44 4.56 23.43 58
96 Baylor 1 8 3.19 5.81 23.35 119
97 Texas-San Ant. 5 3 5.38 2.62 22.68 92
98 Central Mich. 5 4 3.93 5.07 21.36 79
99 Illinois 2 7 2.72 6.28 21.19 108
100 Appalachian St 5 4 5.00 4.00 21.16 106
101 Louisiana Tech 4 5 4.79 4.21 20.13 99
102 Nevada 1 8 3.07 5.93 19.17 121
103 Southern Miss 5 4 4.79 4.21 18.03 88
104 Connecticut 3 6 3.23 5.77 17.69 94
105 Old Dominion 3 6 3.81 5.19 17.06 115
106 East Carolina 2 7 2.25 6.75 17.06 98
107 Ala.-Birmingham 6 3 5.60 3.40 16.42 93
108 Bowling Green 2 7 2.91 6.09 16.33 107
109 Idaho 3 6 4.01 4.99 16.29 110
110 Oregon St 1 8 2.26 6.74 15.99 124
111 Massachusetts 2 7 3.85 5.15 15.36 125
112 New Mexico 3 6 3.43 5.57 15.32 109
113 New Mexico St 4 5 4.35 4.65 15.07 114
114 La.-Lafayette 4 4 3.65 4.35 13.44 103
115 Brigham Young 2 8 3.00 7.00 13.43 120
116 W. Kentucky 5 4 4.61 4.39 13.29 104
117 South Alabama 3 6 3.99 5.01 13.19 112
118 Hawai`i 3 6 3.38 5.62 12.64 117
119 La.-Monroe 4 5 4.16 4.84 12.38 111
120 Kansas 1 8 2.16 6.84 11.69 123
121 Georgia St 5 3 3.90 4.10 11.15 95
122 Coastal Carol. 1 8 2.88 6.12 7.84 128
123 Ball St 2 7 2.45 6.55 7.01 118
124 San Jose St 1 9 1.95 8.05 6.22 129
125 Texas State 2 7 2.87 6.13 5.91 127
126 Ga. Southern 0 8 1.65 6.35 5.83 130
127 Kent St 2 7 1.53 7.47 5.62 113
128 Rice 1 8 1.75 7.25 5.25 126
129 UNC-Charlotte 1 8 1.70 7.30 4.70 122
130 Liberty 5 4 4.27 4.73 4.65 89
131 UTEP 0 9 1.26 7.74 3.18 131


So the top four consensus seem to be right. But interesting that the ratings still love Penn State, Ohio State and Virginia Tech, but don't like Oklahoma. Also, five Big Ten teams in the top 14.

You know.....Miami just beat Virginia Tech.  It wasn't really even close.  Quesadilla?  

 

[bigmarc27]

That wouldn't be fair at all. A lot of these conferences are trash. 

There’s no real way to say for sure what conferences are trash though year in and year out. Honestly, the SEC is pretty trash except for two teams.  You can possibly say that about the ACC too. It’s too hard to say. If West Va was in the ACC right now, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were the 3rd best team or the 10th best. 

If there’s an autobid, it takes a good bit of the #####ing out.  That part is probably part of the fun, but at least everyone knows where they stand. The AFC South is trash, but 1 of those 4 gets to go the playoffs. 

 

[Dickie Dunn]

You know.....Miami just beat Virginia Tech.  It wasn't really even close.  Quesadilla?  

True, but the computers don't seem to care about single head-to-head, for whatever reason. Case in point: Penn State > Ohio State > Oklahoma.

And likewise, Sagarin also still has Va. Tech a spot ahead of Miami, even though Miami's SOS is better. It's weird.

 

[Politician Spock]

True, but the computers don't seem to care about single head-to-head, for whatever reason. Case in point: Penn State > Ohio State > Oklahoma.

And likewise, Sagarin also still has Va. Tech a spot ahead of Miami, even though Miami's SOS is better. It's weird.

Thanks for sharing weird stuff to an already crazy thread. 

 

[Capella]

There’s no real way to say for sure what conferences are trash though year in and year out. Honestly, the SEC is pretty trash except for two teams.  You can possibly say that about the ACC too. It’s too hard to say. If West Va was in the ACC right now, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were the 3rd best team or the 10th best. 

If there’s an autobid, it takes a good bit of the #####ing out.  That part is probably part of the fun, but at least everyone knows where they stand. The AFC South is trash, but 1 of those 4 gets to go the playoffs. 

Yea, the AFC South winner shouldn't get in. It's dumb. 

I don't think the committee has missed one of these final selections yet. I feel like they've done a good job. I don't get the consternation. 

 

[Politician Spock]

Yea, the AFC South winner shouldn't get in. It's dumb. 

I don't think the committee has missed one of these final selections yet. I feel like they've done a good job. I don't get the consternation. 

Neither should any of the big 5 conferences either. Every now and then an 8-4 team is going to pull a rabbit out of their hat to end up as a big 5 conference champ, and we don't need some 11-1 team left out of the playoff because they got an autobid. 

 

[LAUNCH]

Yea, the AFC South winner shouldn't get in. It's dumb. 

I don't think the committee has missed one of these final selections yet. I feel like they've done a good job. I don't get the consternation. 

2014 - Winning the conference matters.

2016 - Losing head to head and not in conference title is cool 

 

[Capella]

Neither should any of the big 5 conferences either. Every now and then an 8-4 team is going to pull a rabbit out of their hat to end up as a big 5 conference champ, and we don't need some 11-1 team left out of the playoff because they got an autobid. 

Exactly 

 

[Capella]

2014 - Winning the conference matters.

2016 - Losing head to head and not in conference title is cool 

It's the whole picture not just one. It's not an either/or thing. It depends on the situation.  

I swear I don't understand why people don't understand this. 

 

[LAUNCH]

 I don't get the consternation.

I swear I don't understand why people don't understand this. 

You said you didn't get the consternation.  I presented you with a fact based answer so you would get it.   The only reason they put this FIFA commission together is so they can make the rules to fit whatever they want to sell that year.