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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (1 Viewer)

fantasycurse42 said:
I'm not one to avoid eating crow, couldn't have been more wrong about PSU, thought they were the real deal, clearly I was wrong. Yesterday completely changed the landscape.
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[SEC honk]

That just showed how deep and powerful the conference is. No easy games in the SEC er.....the B1G

[/SEC honk]

Flash back ten years :bag:

 
Which team benefited most by the chaos yesterday?

I think I’d go in this order:

OU

TCU

ND

Clemson

Wisconsin

OU because it’s highly possible they’re in the top 4 now after their win. TCU was right behind tOSU and PSU and should be top 6 and is heading towards controlling their own fate territory. ND benefited by the Big Ten coming down to one team in competition for its slot, seeing opponents continue to do well (MSU over PSU, USC playing well, Miami undefeated), and ND taking a slight lead over Clemson in the common opponents played with NC State playing Clemson tight. Wisconsin is the clear Big Ten hope now, but it’s resume took another hit and best win all season will have to be what would be against a 3 loss team before the playoffs. 

 
I saw UF got steamrolled by Missouri of all teams.  Will this year's UF/FSU game be the cheapest those tickets ever get?

 
fantasycurse42 said:
I'm not one to avoid eating crow, couldn't have been more wrong about PSU, thought they were the real deal, clearly I was wrong. Yesterday completely changed the landscape.
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I thought they were a playoff team for sure. 

They won't make it now, but a 1 point loss to OSU on the road and a close loss to MSU doesn't really change my opinion on them a lot. 

 
Bama lost it's 3rd and 4th starting LBs for the year, and Minkah Fitzpatrick is hobbled with a hammy...the D isn't going to be itself this year.

 
I opted for Defiant Ones with my wife and son instead of the Ducks game.  They aren't even interesting anymore.  

Washington is going to be nipping at heels to get back in this playoff discussion if teams in front of them keep pooping the bed.  Curious where they get slotted.

Georgia

Bama

ND

Clemson/OU/Wisc/Miami

TCU (Iowa St loss looks worse now)

Wash

????

Profit

 
Capella said:
I thought they were a playoff team for sure. 

They won't make it now, but a 1 point loss to OSU on the road and a close loss to MSU doesn't really change my opinion on them a lot. 
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I thought they were capable of winning a championship - The last second loss at Sparty wasn't a bad loss, but I just expected them to bounce back and make a statement in this one... when that didn't happen, my opinion of them changed a little - def a quality team, but top 4, meh. 

 
irish eyes said:
Big 12 is a joke. Defenses are awful and your qb basically just needs a pulse to throw for 300. I will laugh at the nfl team that drafts the 5'2 mayfield. Cleveland anyone?
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Nah. They’re trading down to acquire more picks so they can draft someone less talented. 

 
New Coaches and AP polls are out. I’m honestly surprised tOSU is at 11th in both after getting their doors blown out again. 

 
gump said:
Bama lost it's 3rd and 4th starting LBs for the year, and Minkah Fitzpatrick is hobbled with a hammy...the D isn't going to be itself this year.
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Their 4th stringers are only 4 stars, right?  I hope the program can survive this ordeal.

 
Jayded said:
New Coaches and AP polls are out. I’m honestly surprised tOSU is at 11th in both after getting their doors blown out again. 
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That’s what I thought and I think it’s kind of a joke. Get blown out by 31 points to a three loss team and we’re supposed to believe they’re number 11 in the country?

 
Jayded said:
New Coaches and AP polls are out. I’m honestly surprised tOSU is at 11th in both after getting their doors blown out again. 
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Who cares?  These mean exactly ZERO.  But you shouldn't be surprised....not even a little bit.  Those polls have been that way for a really long time. :shrug:  

 
Capella said:
Why does anybody care about the polls still. We are in year 4 of the playoff. 
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To be clear I don’t care about what number any one team is outside of showing conference bias. The concern is it extends to the playoff committee. If tOSU is anywhere near that number, to me it reads conference honk bias. The polls can be leading indicators of sentiment and what the committee may do. 

 
Jayded said:
To be clear I don’t care about what number any one team is outside of showing conference bias. The concern is it extends to the playoff committee. If tOSU is anywhere near that number, to me it reads conference honk bias. The polls can be leading indicators of sentiment and what the committee may do. 
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The committee is so far away from the polls that it isn't even worth discussing. Didn't the AP have Wisconsin 4 and the committee had them 10? They don't give a flying flip about the polls. 

 
Jayded said:
To be clear I don’t care about what number any one team is outside of showing conference bias. The concern is it extends to the playoff committee. If tOSU is anywhere near that number, to me it reads conference honk bias. The polls can be leading indicators of sentiment and what the committee may do. 
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The top 9 are pretty easy in some order:  UGA, Bama, ND, Clemson, Oklahoma, Miami, Wisconsin, TCU, and Washington.   After that Ohio State belongs in a tier with Auburn, Penn State, Michigan State, USC, and Oklahoma State.  I guess UCF has to go somewhere in there too.   In other words someone has to be 10, 11 and 12.

 
Jayded said:
To be clear I don’t care about what number any one team is outside of showing conference bias. The concern is it extends to the playoff committee. If tOSU is anywhere near that number, to me it reads conference honk bias. The polls can be leading indicators of sentiment and what the committee may do. 
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There is no concern about OSU and the playoff committee. Even if OSU wins out and wins the Big 10, the collapse that would have to occur for OSU to get in now would make the playoffs a joke anyway. 

ETA: and OSU will finish 8-4, based on the crap they've done the last two weeks. 

 
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Capella said:
The committee is so far away from the polls that it isn't even worth discussing. Didn't the AP have Wisconsin 4 and the committee had them 10? They don't give a flying flip about the polls. 
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We’re somewhat saying the same thing. I completely agree with you guys on the uselessness of the polls with the committee. 

What I’d love to see is the only poll we have is the committee’s and it starts last week like it did. What the polls have historically done is have a bias to preseason in nature when no one knew anything. 

After some games we can finally start to see who is real and who isn’t. It also would help force the committee to own who is and isn’t a quality win. Right now there are debates based on the other polls for previous victories that feel hollow. 

 
Jayded said:
To be clear I don’t care about what number any one team is outside of showing conference bias. The concern is it extends to the playoff committee. If tOSU is anywhere near that number, to me it reads conference honk bias. The polls can be leading indicators of sentiment and what the committee may do. 
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Of course they CAN be....evidence that they ever have been in any meaningful way to be concerned about it?

NOTE:  They are "biased" towards those who win a conference championship game (well, until last year), but that is NOT analogous to "conference honk bias".

 
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SHIZNITTTT said:
Kevin Sumlin out?   10.6 million dollar buyout.   WoW!
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Am I missing news? Only thing I can see is a "report" that "Changes are coming at Texas A&M but don't look for them before end of the season."

Well, uh, no duh.

 
Jayded said:
Which team benefited most by the chaos yesterday?

I think I’d go in this order:

OU

TCU

ND

Clemson

Wisconsin

OU because it’s highly possible they’re in the top 4 now after their win. TCU was right behind tOSU and PSU and should be top 6 and is heading towards controlling their own fate territory. ND benefited by the Big Ten coming down to one team in competition for its slot, seeing opponents continue to do well (MSU over PSU, USC playing well, Miami undefeated), and ND taking a slight lead over Clemson in the common opponents played with NC State playing Clemson tight. Wisconsin is the clear Big Ten hope now, but it’s resume took another hit and best win all season will have to be what would be against a 3 loss team before the playoffs. 
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To me, the biggest winner is potentially the SEC conference champ loser. If both teams are unbeaten going in, the game is really about seeding (and conference title) since they would both be in.

 
JaxBill said:
To me, the biggest winner is potentially the SEC conference champ loser. If both teams are unbeaten going in, the game is really about seeding (and conference title) since they would both be in.
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If ND, Clemson or Miami, and Oklahoma all win out I could see UGA not making it if they lose the SECCG.  I would love to see Wisconsin go 13-0 and not make it in because of their poop schedule though.

Probably two elimination games this week between Miami/ND and TCU/Oklahoma.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
If ND, Clemson or Miami, and Oklahoma all win out I could see UGA not making it if they lose the SECCG.  I would love to see Wisconsin go 13-0 and not make it in because of their poop schedule though.

Probably two elimination games this week between Miami/ND and TCU/Oklahoma.
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So you'd take a 1 loss ND over 1 loss UGA despite who the Irish lost to?

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JaxBill said:
So you'd take a 1 loss ND over 1 loss UGA despite who the Irish lost to?

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:lmao:

I said I could see it happening and not a damn thing about what I would do.  But last year Penn State beat Ohio State (and won their conference championship too) and Ohio State got the ranking.  

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:

I said I could see it happening and not a damn thing about what I would do.  But last year Penn State beat Ohio State (and won their conference championship too) and Ohio State got the ranking.  
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Nah. Penn state had won more loss than OSU, one of which was a 49-7 thrashing. 

 
JaxBill said:
So you'd take a 1 loss ND over 1 loss UGA despite who the Irish lost to?

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I think that easily happens. The committee will just treat the SECCG like a play in game. Why have UGA lose to Bama in the middle of December just to turn around and play them at the end of the month in the 1/4 game?

If there aren’t enough 1 loss teams at that point sure, but UGA could much more easily withstand a loss to Auburn and win the SECCG to get in that having the reverse happen. 

 
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