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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (1 Viewer)

Don't Noonan said:
Well, that was the year before but yes thank you for reminding me.  Puke.  I had a good buddy who went to the Alamo Bowl and he said he sat in disbelief a full half hour after the game was over.
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Worst beat I've ever had, both in gambling terms and rooting terms.  I went to church the next morning and was NOT saintly.

 
I've seen the estimate on this board from somewhere that a major college home game meant $10M to the home town.

 
gump said:
I've seen the estimate on this board from somewhere that a major college home game meant $10M to the home town.
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Yeah, no way it doesn't have an impact on the local economy. OU's stadium holds 82k. Take out about 10-12k for students and that means for 6 home games an extra 70k people show up for 1-3 days. Hotels, restaurants, grocery stores to fill those coolers, parking. If they average spending $150/person that's $63MM each season.

 
Christo said:
Yeah, no way it doesn't have an impact on the local economy. OU's stadium holds 82k. Take out about 10-12k for students and that means for 6 home games an extra 70k people show up for 1-3 days. Hotels, restaurants, grocery stores to fill those coolers, parking. If they average spending $150/person that's $63MM each season.
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And this is why I said the economic impact is overblown. A family of 4 isn't averaging anything close to $600 per weekend on college football without including tickets.

 
RUSF18 said:
And this is why I said the economic impact is overblown. A family of 4 isn't averaging anything close to $600 per weekend on college football without including tickets.
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There are other people rolling into town spending several thousand.

 
I'm going to the TCU game with my wife. Just booked a hotel room for $150/night. We'll eat out for every meal and bring beer and food for the tailgate.

 
RUSF18 said:
How many people do you honestly believe are spending $18K a season on the experience that doesn't include tickets, parking near the stadium, donations, etc?
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I know lots of people who drop $2-3k over a weekend for a game.

Why wouldn't parking be included?

 
Christo said:
I'm going to the TCU game with my wife. Just booked a hotel room for $150/night. We'll eat out for every meal and bring beer and food for the tailgate.
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And that room would have been empty and the restaurants would be empty and no one would buy food and beer that weekend if there wasn't a home game going on. Again...overblown.

https://www.google.com/amp/wate.com/2015/08/27/football-fans-could-spend-563-to-attend-college-football-games-this-season/amp/

In 2014, local hotel prices were 2% higher for TCU on game weekends vs non game weekends. When the team was 12-1 and ranked 3rd in the country.

 
Christo said:
I know lots of people who drop $2-3k over a weekend for a game.

Why wouldn't parking be included?
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Because the parking revenue typically goes to the athletic department assuming we're talking about lots near on-campus stadiums, and even that still has pretty low "face value" cost because you can't get parking without making large donations to the program.

 
Ah, I see you're from NYC. You might be into something if we were talking about a game in NYC. But when we're talking about places like Norman, OK, Tuscaloosa, AL, and Madison, WI, you bet your ### it makes a difference.

 
RUSF18 said:
How many people do you honestly believe are spending $18K a season on the experience that doesn't include tickets, parking near the stadium, donations, etc?
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Yeah I know people that go to all home games and spend money on food and drinks for tailgaiting, parking, gas, and whatever else.   They also go to 4-6 road games per year including bowl games.  That's a lot of hotel, gas/airfare, and food money alone they are spending on the road trips for a family of 4.

 
RUSF18 said:
Because the parking revenue typically goes to the athletic department assuming we're talking about lots near on-campus stadiums, and even that still has pretty low "face value" cost because you can't get parking without making large donations to the program.
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There's very little parking on-campus in lots of places. I'd bet that half the people who drive on game day are parking in people's front yards.

 
RUSF18 said:
Because the parking revenue typically goes to the athletic department assuming we're talking about lots near on-campus stadiums, and even that still has pretty low "face value" cost because you can't get parking without making large donations to the program.
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Many schools have cash lots for fans.  It may go to the school or to someone else but it's still cash lost if a game doesn't exist.

 
Christo said:
Yeah, no way it doesn't have an impact on the local economy. OU's stadium holds 82k. Take out about 10-12k for students and that means for 6 home games an extra 70k people show up for 1-3 days. Hotels, restaurants, grocery stores to fill those coolers, parking. If they average spending $150/person that's $63MM each season.
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When State College becomes the 3rd largest city in PA (IIRC) on Penn State game day, I'd say there's an impact. More so when you consider people come in on Wednesday with their campers and hang out before most game days.

 
Christo said:
Ah, I see you're from NYC. You might be into something if we were talking about a game in NYC. But when we're talking about places like Norman, OK, Tuscaloosa, AL, and Madison, WI, you bet your ### it makes a difference.
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You might have a point if I ever claimed that home football games had no impact on the local economy. Are you familiar with the definition of "overblown"?

Here's three faulty assumptions you have made in the last 15 minutes that causes people to overstate "economic impact" every single time.

- Every non-student attendee is coming to the game from out of town.

- Hotel rooms go unfilled if there isn't a game.

- Restaurants/bars are empty when the home team isn't playing. No one goes out on Saturdays to meals with their family/friends, and no one grabs a couple beers and watches other games if the local team isn't playing.

This is how politicians and developers con people into thinking it's a great idea to use public funds on projects, despite actual evidence very rarely backing it up.

 
RUSF18 said:
You might have a point if I ever claimed that home football games had no impact on the local economy. Are you familiar with the definition of "overblown"?

Here's three faulty assumptions you have made in the last 15 minutes that causes people to overstate "economic impact" every single time.

- Every non-student attendee is coming to the game from out of town.

- Hotel rooms go unfilled if there isn't a game.

- Restaurants/bars are empty when the home team isn't playing. No one goes out on Saturdays to meals with their family/friends, and no one grabs a couple beers and watches other games if the local team isn't playing.

This is how politicians and developers con people into thinking it's a great idea to use public funds on projects, despite actual evidence very rarely backing it up.
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:lmao:

Come on man.  Most college towns not only would have unfilled rooms they actually jack up the prices for those rooms on gameday weekends to make money.  Do you think all college games are played in large metropolitan areas that are fall vacation destinations?

 
RUSF...no offense, but doesn't sound like you have a lot of experience in a 'major college town', especially in the south.

The game day impact is significant enough that Florida will fight to the death to keep from losing their 6th home game in Gainesville.

 
RUSF18 said:
You might have a point if I ever claimed that home football games had no impact on the local economy. Are you familiar with the definition of "overblown"?

Here's three faulty assumptions you have made in the last 15 minutes that causes people to overstate "economic impact" every single time.

- Every non-student attendee is coming to the game from out of town.

- Hotel rooms go unfilled if there isn't a game.

- Restaurants/bars are empty when the home team isn't playing. No one goes out on Saturdays to meals with their family/friends, and no one grabs a couple beers and watches other games if the local team isn't playing.

This is how politicians and developers con people into thinking it's a great idea to use public funds on projects, despite actual evidence very rarely backing it up.
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There are no unfilled hotel rooms in major towns. If I go last minute I am staying 60 minutes outside of tallahassee. 

 
Tom Servo said:
When State College becomes the 3rd largest city in PA (IIRC) on Penn State game day, I'd say there's an impact. More so when you consider people come in on Wednesday with their campers and hang out before most game days.
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I've been there for game weeks and you nailed it. The number of campers alone gridlock State College and good luck getting into a restaurant without waiting.

 
Don't Noonan said:
Well, that was the year before but yes thank you for reminding me.  Puke.  I had a good buddy who went to the Alamo Bowl and he said he sat in disbelief a full half hour after the game was over.
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Oh, I know when it was.  That game set the tone for what was to follow and was the reason why I was so bearish on the Ducks at the start of the season.  I made a lot of money betting against Oregon.  That TCU game showed me what a complete and utter failure that coaching staff was.  Inexcusable.

 
I finally got around to looking at the schedule. What an unimpressive first Saturday. Well, except for Hawaii at UMass of course. 

 
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Via Brett McMurphy:  :excited:

Sources: St. Pete Bowl has been renamed Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl. Despite name change game remains in St. Pete facebook.com/TheBrettMcMurp…

 
James Franklin gets a new deal till 2022.  He might have gone from being fired, to a big payday from one fg block.

 
Oh, Lane Kiffin, you beautiful beast you....

 

Former Baylor coach Art Briles is taking on a bit of an informal advisory role with Florida Atlantic.

Briles’ son and former offensive coordinator Kendal Briles is the offensive coordinator at FAU under head coach Lane Kiffin. Monday, Kiffin said that he’s using the disgraced former Baylor coach as a sounding board of sorts.

From the South Florida Sun-Sentinel:

 “Obviously, he’s done unbelievable things on offense,” Kiffin said. “It’s his system that he started years and years ago. Every once in a while, I’ll text or call him and bounce something off of him.”

The optics of Kiffin discussing offensive concepts with the elder Briles are obviously not good.

Briles was fired from Baylor in May of 2016 after an independent investigation into the way football program staff handled sexual assault accusations. In his time as coach, Art Briles even allegedly asked why a woman who accused former Baylor players of sexual assault was with “bad dudes” from his football team.

But here’s the thing; it was inevitable that Art Briles was going to be available for advice the moment Kiffin hired Kendal Briles as his offensive coordinator. The revelation that Kiffin and Kendal are talking to Art shouldn’t come as news to anyone.

Football coaches bounce ideas off each other all of the time, plus you can’t expect a father not to talk to his son about football, especially if they’re both coaches. And if you’re able to separate Briles’ handling of serious issues of humanity from his football acumen — something that’s absolutely impossible in the real world — his Baylor teams’ offensive statistics were incredibly impressive.

Should Florida Atlantic staff be discussing any potential association with Art Briles publicly? Probably not. But now that they have, there’s no reason to be surprised that it’s happening. This was going to be part of the deal when Kiffin hired Kendal.
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:lmao:

 
Listening to the XM College Sports Nation camp tours.  Had Texas on yesterday and got to listen to that "offensive mastermind" Tim Beck.  Enjoy your season of terrible and predictable offense, Longhorn fans.  He destroyed the Ohio State offense in record time. :lol:   Fans could not have been happier when he left to join Herman.

 
ESPN has pulled an announcer from Virginia’s season opener against William & Mary because of his name as first reported by Outkick the Coverage’s Clay Travis.

The announcer’s name is Robert Lee.

ESPN released a statement on the change of announcers, via Outkick the Coverage.

“We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name. In that moment it felt right to all parties. It’s a shame that this is even a topic of conversation and we regret that who calls play by play for a football game has become an issue.”

Outkick was quick to weigh in on the decision.

“In a story that seems made for The Onion, but is actually true, according to multiple Outkick fans inside ESPN decided to pull an Asian college football announcer named Robert Lee off the William and Mary at University of Virginia college football game because they were concerned that having an ASIAN FOOTBALL ANNOUNCER NAMED ROBERT LEE would be offensive to some viewers.

“Did I mention that Robert Lee is Asian?”

Lee, the ESPN announcer, will now be doing play-by-play on the Pittsburgh - Youngstown State game.

Dave Weekley will be covering the Virginia - William & Mary game.
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http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Article/Jeff-Badet-fielding-kickoffs-punts-Oklahoma-Sooners-wide-receive-106382052

:lmao:

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
I finally got around to looking at the schedule. What an unimpressive first Saturday. Well, except for Hawaii at UMass of course. 
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Look at it this way.  You get to watch Q Flowers establish himself as the best QB in the country. Watch the $$ fight.  Then watch Stanford run out the clock on Rice and pictures of kangaroosz

 
Weird scheduling quirks: Both UMass (vs. Hawaii) and Rice (vs. Stanford) are opening the season this weekend against the same teams they faced to end 2016.

Oddly enough, it has happened several other times in recent seasons:

Miami vs. Louisville (2013 Russell Athletic Bowl, 2014 opener)

USC vs. Fresno State (2013 Las Vegas Bowl, 2014 opener)

Kent State (vs. Ohio, 2013 finale, 2014 opener ... Ohio played in a bowl in between)

Boise State vs. Washington (2012 Las Vegas Bowl, 2013 opener)

Boston College vs. Miami (2011 finale, 2012 opener)

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:

Come on man.  Most college towns not only would have unfilled rooms they actually jack up the prices for those rooms on gameday weekends to make money.  Do you think all college games are played in large metropolitan areas that are fall vacation destinations?
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Try to find a room within 60 miles of south bend during the weekend of a Notre Dame game.  If you do, it will be 3 times the normal price. 

 
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