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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (3 Viewers)
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General Malaise
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CBS Sports app sucks.I'm seeing they were 12 of 19.http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400986609
And Frost will be Nebraska's next head coach.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Riley ain't going anywhere. Not after beating the powerhouse that is Purdue.I'm seeing they were 12 of 19.
And Frost will be Nebraska's next head coach.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Osaurus
Footballguy
Wow. Serious spanking by Georgia must sting for Gators fans. Mark Richt must be pissed.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
This is the media voting so we will see what the committee does Tuesday. But the committee has made it clear they look at whole resume and not just a head to head outcome. Most of this will likely sort itself out over the next month too.So here we go again. 1-loss Ohio State is ranked ahead of:
1. Undefeated Wisconsin from the same conference
2. 1-loss Oklahoma who beat them head-to-head.
By the way, I expect them to rank UGA #1 Tuesday based on the road win at Notre Dame.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Oklahoma can ignore Ohio State being ranked ahead of them. If Oklahoma beats TCU and Oklahoma State to win out their schedule, then they'll get into the playoff before an 11-1 Ohio State would.So here we go again. 1-loss Ohio State is ranked ahead of:
1. Undefeated Wisconsin from the same conference
2. 1-loss Oklahoma who beat them head-to-head.
The only reason Oklahoma is ranked lower than OSU now is because of the shock value of losing to Iowa State, which isn't looking as bad now. It also doesn't help that they let teams like Baylor and Kansas hang around so long. But none of what they've done in Big 12 play is worthy of losing a spot to Ohio State in the playoffs. Oklahoma would have to lose a second time before Ohio State could be taken before them.
As for Ohio State being ranked ahead of Wisconsin, so what? Notre Dame, Clemson, and Penn State should be ranked ahead of them too. Their biggest accomplishment this year is beating Northwestern.
mr. furley
Footballguy
Badgers still with Iowa & Michigan at home & Minnesota on the road
they always seem to fumble away one or two that they shouldn't
they always seem to fumble away one or two that they shouldn't
NutterButter
Footballguy
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I would disagree. If OSU wins out and is B1G champ, they are in regardless or whatever else happens.
There are certainly some crazy scenarios that could play out this year, and very few teams that truly control their own destinies. I would say that Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Clemson and Miami are the only teams that can say they truly control their own destiny based on conference titles, etc.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
ND is a strong possibility, but a Big12 Champ could possibly confound that one, like Oklahoma. The other 6 will weed out 3 of them, in all likelihood. Still do not think the committee will do 2 from one conference. But I would say that ND and Oklahoma both sort of share a single control your destiny slot, but do not have it entirely. Gonna get crazy in November.
The Commish
Footballguy
After all that? I doubt I can, noPolitician Spock said:
Politician Spock
Footballguy
I doubt you can too. Because it wasn't bad coaching in the 2nd half that caused them to loose. The coaching staff didn't change anything.After all that? I doubt I can, no
Three of Penn State's touchdowns were because of three HUGE OSU mistakes: 1) a kickoff returned for a TD; 2) an OSU fumble that gave them the ball again on OSU's 23 that they converted for a TD; and a kickoff returned to the OSU 23 that they also converted to a TD. That's 21 points from only 46 yards of PSU offense and only 3:22 of clock. The only way to continue that pace would be for OSU to keep screwing up. That didn't happen, but that's not Penn State's coaches fault. OSU finally got it together.
If you look at what PSU did when OSU didn't hand them gifts, they were pretty consistent in both halves: They were 1 for 4 scoring on drives starting in their own territory in the 1st half, and 2 for 6 scoring on drives starting in their own territory in the 2nd half. Penn State gained 130 yards in the first half and 153 yards in the 2nd half. And they used McSorely consistently in every quarter.
The reason why OSU came back from that lead is because the OSU defense contained Barkely.
After Barkley burnt OSU twice, OSU shut him down for the rest of the game. Here are his stats just after his 36 yard TD run in the 2nd quarter:
Those are pretty awesome stats to have at just 11:40 to go in the 2nd quarter. But here are his stats from that point on for the rest of the game:
That's all he could do for the last 41:40 of the game. So much for his Heisman chances.
If you want to blame someone at Penn State for the loss, blame Barkely for his crappy production on the last 20 times he touched the ball.
Or instead of blaming someone on Penn State for the loss, give OSU credit for finding a way to beat Penn State despite all the mistakes they made.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
I don't know that Barkley lost the Heisman yesterday....i mean, he did return the opening kickoff to the house.
Bryce Love didn't play Thursday. Think he's the biggest challenger to Barkley though Mayfield might have something to say about it too.
Bryce Love didn't play Thursday. Think he's the biggest challenger to Barkley though Mayfield might have something to say about it too.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Dedfin
Footballguy
I think Bryce Love is incredible, but he may lose too many votes int he South, Mid Atlantic and NE. Blame it on ECB or whatever, or I may be full of crap, but I don't think he's gonna get votes enough across the country to matter.
General Malaise
Footballguy
He'll force their hand if he picks up where he left off and finishes the year with a ridiculous > 10 YPC. His toughest tests are ahead, though.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Scott Frost's Wiki page lists him as the head coach of Florida.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Here is everything Barkley did in the 4th quarter, when his team needed him the most:
The only time he got positive yards from scrimmage was on two 3rd and long plays, where he came up more than 10 yards short of a first down both times. The other six plays he cost his team 19 yards and the loss of 6 downs. His kick return to only the 15 also set OSU up with great field position for their game winning score, especially after he proceeded to lose 9 more yards on the next two plays.
ETA: His 3rd quarter stats sucked too: 8 carries for 5 yards
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Dedfin
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psychobillies
Footballguy
I see your point, but there's no way he lost the Heisman because he only scored twice against Ohio State. He's still got my vote, and it's not that close. Assuming, of course, that they ask me for my vote.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
I really don't mean this to be a ####, but Florida and Arkansas aren't competing for the same coaches.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Some Gator fans are talking Gundy. He's never leaving OSU, right? Going to be there until he's Bill Snyder's age?
Osaurus
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
I dunno? Always being in the shadow on OU has to get old after awhile. Getting to recruit 5 stars every year instead of 2 and 3 stars has to be tempting. I don't know if Pickens let him leave.
Osaurus
Footballguy
Osaurus
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Dantonio needs to go to Florida. I'd be happy to help make that happen.
Osaurus
Footballguy
I agree with you there.I think Kelly to Florida is more realistic than Gruden to Tennessee.
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
I don’t think so. OSU is peaking now and OU is treading water. I think the committee is looking for the hottest team. In hindsight the Bucks were still adjusting to a new coaching staff and new wrinkles in the offense. I do think OSU beats OU by two TD’s if played today.If OU and OSU win out, and the playoff comes down to selecting one of them for the 4th and final spot, then it goes to OU without question. These OSU would win if they played now arguments are worthless in regards to the playoffs. OU won, so speculation on what would happen if they played again doesn't matter at all.
That said, I would love to see both teams get in and have a rematch.
Right now.
I don't think OU is going to do it. But if they win out, they will have beaten OkSU on the road, TCU, WVU, and either OkSU/TCU a second time or revenged their loss to ISU. That ain't treading water.
NutterButter
Footballguy
For the sake of really of making the decision as hard as possible in order to further move the needle in the direction of an eight team playoff, I'd love if Alabama, OU, OSU, Clemson and ND win out and Georgia's only loss comes in the SEC title game. That's six teams that would have very good resumes for only 4 spots.
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Let Penn State win out so they are 11-1 with only a 1 point loss on the road against one of the potential playoff teams.
Really, what will cause the playoff to expand would be seeing Bama, UGA, and ND making it where Clemson, Ohio St (or PSU) and Oklahoma are fighting for one spot.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I was considering PSU as well, but then I thought Wisconsin needs to be added as well if their only loss is in the big ten title game and I'd rather not the way the rest of their schedule looks.
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