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Miami is coming off a big comeback win that could give them some momentum. Jets will need to get up on them early. I still do not have much hope for this team to win more than six games - but at this point all we can do is hope they keep playing well and let's see what happens. Some of the teams on the schedule that looked tough early on are starting to show some warts of their own. Stranger things have happened.
I'm not sure about that...
I did not see Bowles' on field reaction because I was too busy jumping through the roof. I will have to go back and watch it. As for his press conference after the game, I guess he could have done some Ditka, Mora, Green type rant but it is obviously not his style.
I wasnt looking for a rant as I know it's not his style but damn how about a pulse....same ho hum reaction no matter even it was a crushing loss by getting screwed from refs....I dont like his emotionless style...I think Rex was too much and Bowles is complete opposite end of the spectrum...would love to have someone who shows at least some emotion when warranted....anyway - big game this week to see if they will continue to compete or if those early wins were a mirage.
Actually, a good play by McCain against McCown. He dropped off covering the inside WR and switched to the outside WR. Is it too late to trade him to the Packers?
Think it was more of a terrible pass than a good defensive play. It wasn't like McCain fooled him. He threw it right to him and nowhere near the receiver.SoBeDad said:
Bowles is super conservative in every other situation - and that's when he decides to "go for it"? I can't believe they even thought there was a chance at anything other than OT.
Winston, Goff, Watson and Mariotta are all looking like the right moves by their teams as well. Yes, I know we can point to guys like Carr or Dak that fell out of the first round and are legit but the odds are stacked against that.
I understand the team cant just flat out tank but they would have helped their chances in a big way by playing one of the kids at QB.....winning a few meaningless games with a 37 yr old QB hurts the franchise long term vs complete rebuild. Problem is it seems Bowles and maybe even Mac are playing for their jobs so of course they have no interest in the greater good of the franchise....purgatory once again....
Who are the Jets supposed to be tanking for?
The team is not going to do that with a game in three days. If McCown plays well and the Jets lose to drop to 3-6? Well, then a transition can be made to Petty or Hackenberg but only if they are deemed to be ready to play. The Jets may have decided Petty is a career backup and Hackenberg is just not any good. If the Jets already decided that, then there isn't a reason to go to either of them aside from a token what-the-hell start very late in the season. The Jets could bring McCown back in 2018 as a mentor/early season starter before the 2018 1st round draft pick at quarterback is ready to play.
I agree it was extremely bad to win. At 0-8, Bowles probably would have been fired today and the team would have rallied around Kacy Rodgers or Karl Dorrell the rest of the way and maybe pulled off three wins in games the team will otherwise likely lose down the stretch.
Tampa Bay- I guess you could make some sort of argument that TB tanked to get Winston, but they did have a new head coach and the team was pretty rotten the year before. If someone wants to argue that they tanked, then I want to see that argument.
Well I agree that doing it for the Thursday game is not ideal but it could be done. If they want to use that as the excuse I could understand that though. After this week's loss the change has to be made. I'm not sure how they could seriously evaluate what Petty and Hack are without giving them extended real game action. Frankly I doubt Petty is more than a career backup, but even establishing that makes more sense than trotting out a 37 year old journeyman. The Jets could bring McCown back either way, if he wants to be a mentor/QB coach he would need to realize that the young kids need to be given a chance.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts. Its not about "lets lose games so we can draft a shiny California Quarterback". Its about having realistic expectations of your current roster and a thoughtful understanding of the state of the league (in terms of what pieces you need to win and what the competitive landscape will look like once you have the time/resources to acquire all those pieces). Its about taking a proper accounting of your position and doing everything possible to acquire/develop assets and maximize upside.
Hopefully Matt Forte will be next.
I may be slowly moving in the direction as well......first the Jets would have to be in a position to draft a franchise Qb....then be lucky enough for him to be the real deal....then after those 2 lotto tix are hit actually develop him which between the mediocre coaching staff and challenges you outlined it makes it almost impossible. This isnt a bad team at all.......adding Cousins/A Smith along with another top 10 pick with 2 2d rd pick (for the love of god offense please!!!) would make them a contender next year.
Doubt he had many games against the Jets
I was on the tank bandwagon, but Bowles has this team playing hard, and we're beginning to see some of that young talent make noise. If they signed, say, Cousins (who could easily have a nice 5-7 year run), and drafted a true #1 WR, all of a sudden, this is a playoff team with a pretty tough D.
I don't know if I'd go so far as "great". He makes some really really bad throws including a few last night that should have been easy interceptions. He is a gamer though and the comparison to Fitz is apt.
true - should have said great compared to how I thought he would be playing....there's a lot of bad QBs out there as we've seen an McCown has been a pleasant surprise. I dont see why he couldnt bridge another yr for a few games if they go young....and I wouldnt shed a tear at all if they replaced him with an Alex Smith/Cousins type as well...obviously status quo is not an option!
It's a fair comparison. One difference is that McCown seems more grounded. Fitz was a total disaster last year and would not take any accountability. Totally different attitudes.
good point - McCown has a much better team attitude - Fitz hated any inference that he wasnt a top QB in the league who would never be benched....McCown was even quoted recently as saying if it's time for them to look at the kids soon he'l be on board 100%....really hope he is around next year in some capacity and would like to see him as a QB coach.
