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2017 New York Jets: Robby Anderson has been arrested in Florida for the second straight offseason. This is why we can't have nice things. (1 Viewer)

What an interesting season so far. I started out wanting them to lose every game to make sure they got a QB in the draft. Then once I realized they were going to beat Miami, I switched to being happy that they beat our hated rivals. Then they beat Jax and I was pissed because tanking was over. At that point, I knew there were too many other bad teams out there for us to get the top spot.

Then I started enjoying watching this team of scrappers despite them blowing games against NE, MIA, and ATL.  Thrashing Buffalo was pretty satisfying. I hope they thrash Fitz next week.

Yeah, we're still missing a lot of talent on this team, but they're scrappy and they have good chemistry unlike in the past. I normally wouldn't be crazy about that dancing video, but it was actually great to see them together as a team.  I still don't like Bowles much, but I have to give him credit for a doing a pretty good job so far this season.

 
Welcome back the NY Jets that we have always known. Just when they get you excited, they throw in the classic stinker. Terrible performance today. The o-line got man-handled. The QB stunk. The WRs dropped passes. Not sure what Morton was doing. Our CBs stunk and we couldn't tackle when we needed to. The CBs were so bad that the WRs got enough separation to still catch Fitz's pop-gun lollipop passes. Just awful.

 
I think the saddest thing about watching yesterday's game was that each of those two bum journeyman QBs have one of the top statistical single seasons in Jets' QB history.

 
After the bye it better be Petty or Hack under center. Thanks for the memories Josh, but there is no way in hell this is a playoff team and we need to see if one of these youngsters are at least backup QB worthy going forward.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
After the bye it better be Petty or Hack under center. Thanks for the memories Josh, but there is no way in hell this is a playoff team and we need to see if one of these youngsters are at least backup QB worthy going forward.
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Don't get your hopes up. We'll see Josh out there for another 2-3 games at the least.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I suspect you will be correct. It's terrible for the long term outlook of this team though.
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If I had to bet, I would say that Josh plays the rest of the season barring injury. I have a feeling Bowles made his decision over the summer and feels like he knows what he has with Petty and Hack.  Is McCagnan on the same page? I would think not, but with our weird power structure, it may not even be his call.

 
As predicted, Bowles came out today and said that he cannot see a scenario barring injury where McCown isn't the starter the rest of the way.

 
What a Jet like season....blow the tank....tease the fans just enough to get somewhat delusional for a run...then rip their hearts out in a complete stinker to an awful team without its 2 best players....and of course beaten by an equally awful Fitz...agree with above...putrid offense all around - including the OC whose gameplan must have been written on a napkin.  OL is a huge issue that must be addressed in FA and draft....and of course MCCown shows why he has been on a ton of teams...penalties galore....terrible game prep....defense played ok except when it counted....what an awful awful loss.

Now it's time to pull the plug and play the kids....of course this is the Jets so no way it happens....Bowles is going to stick with the old QB until they at least hit 9 losses like last yr...maybe more....I dont think Hack sniffs a game....he must be so bad that its better to have him suck in private then roll him out there to completely humiliate himself and the organization....to not even give a high 2d rd pick a start in 2 losing seasons is mind boggling and never been done before....huge mark on Mac's record.  

Coaching staff will likely return and its a huge mistake - this game shows that they must go....yet they'll be back

So the bottom line is a 6-7 win season....low teens pick.....no QB development...same crappy coaches to return...welcome to NFL purgatory!  

 
The only people who EVER thought this team had a shot at the playoffs are idiots. 

Because they beat the Buffalo bills on a Thursday? Give me a break

 
NYRAGE said:
As predicted, Bowles came out today and said that he cannot see a scenario barring injury where McCown isn't the starter the rest of the way.
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Here's a scenario: McCown on the bench while Bowles is watching the Jets' game on television because he was fired for being a short sighted buffoon.

 
TLEF316 said:
The only people who EVER thought this team had a shot at the playoffs are idiots. 

Because they beat the Buffalo bills on a Thursday? Give me a break
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Hey, this idiot skipped a grade a million years ago. I thought they had a chance to make the playoffs because quite frankly, every other playoff team is pretty bad. That same Bills team is in that spot now a game and a half up. Ravens stink. Miami stinks, etc.

Of course, they would have 99% been one and done in the playoffs.

 
NYRAGE said:
Hey, this idiot skipped a grade a million years ago. I thought they had a chance to make the playoffs because quite frankly, every other playoff team is pretty bad. That same Bills team is in that spot now a game and a half up. Ravens stink. Miami stinks, etc.

Of course, they would have 99% been one and done in the playoffs.
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exactly - 9 wins will get in....if they beat the Bucs they would have been in the thick of it...not because they are any good but because it is a bad year....of course when they get decent it will take 11 wins to get a WC!

BTW - anyone read the QB coaches comments on Hack/Petty playing - "this isn't AAA - we play the best player" - ouch....those guys must suck something awful.  

 
Kiddnets said:
exactly - 9 wins will get in....if they beat the Bucs they would have been in the thick of it...not because they are any good but because it is a bad year....of course when they get decent it will take 11 wins to get a WC!

BTW - anyone read the QB coaches comments on Hack/Petty playing - "this isn't AAA - we play the best player" - ouch....those guys must suck something awful.  
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Ha, the pain of being a Jets fan.

Regarding the QBs, Bowles is coaching to survive and not focused on seeing what we have with those two. I wonder if McCags is on the same page.

 
NYRAGE said:
Ha, the pain of being a Jets fan.

Regarding the QBs, Bowles is coaching to survive and not focused on seeing what we have with those two. I wonder if McCags is on the same page.
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McCown has been good at times this season, but it's not like Petty would need to be Aaron Rodgers to justify the switch. McCown has cost the team at least two wins on his own.

I do not want to see anyone get hurt (these are real human beings) but given his long injury history hopefully Bowles' hand gets forced at some point. It makes zero sense to start McCown after the bye - this is the perfect time to get the young guys some reps and ready to play.

 
Well that was a nice weekend. I only had to deal with the aggravation of some of my fantasy players.

Happy Thanksgiving week to my fellow Jets fans.

 
Another typical Jet Sun afternoon......dropped TD....Ref's take one away (same cursed player lol)....Jets look great and take the lead....then the complete and utter collapse with a rookie mistake by a 38 yr old QB followed by the special teams breakdown we all knew was coming.....followed by a Bowles fall asleep presser where he again for the countless time talks about finishing games yet the team never does.

4-7.....zero point in sticking with 38 yr old QB but Bowles will never make the change until every possible chance to make the playoffs no matter how ridiculous is gone.....even then he may still stubbornly not do it.

I get it.....PEtty and Hack look like crap in practice....as a fan I dont care...there were stories of Pennington looking bad in practice for 2 yrs until he got his shot....you never know for sure until a QB get real game experience.  They developed the kids in the offense enough and have enough tape to finally give them a shot.  So many QBs have said until you are in a real game the light just doesnt go on.  Ive never seen a QB picked as high as Hack not even given a regular season start before possibly being cut and that's where we are headed.  IT's ridiculous - give the kid a chance...if he sucks so be it...better draft pick. If he shows some promise it would be huge for the franchise....what are they afraid of?  That he'll throw a stupid pick or fumble and give the game away?   Well guess what - their 17 yr vet is doing the same thing so whats the problem?  

I get Bowles is stubborn on it....he want to win games and he is not in the business of developing a young QB if it costs him is job...if they are bringing him back they should let him know now and tell him next yr is about finding/developing a young QB and its not McCown...then he has a skin in the game to take a longer look at the kids.....if he's not coming back then tell him he has to play the young QBs or he'll be fired....cut throat - maybe - but I care about the future of the team not the coach.....it's great that they were more competitive than expected but they still are looking at a 4-5 win season after last season's disaster....no progress in penalties/mistakes/adjustments - I have zero faith in him as a long term coach and developing a new QB which to be fair should be another 2-3 yrs at least unless they somehow land a Cousins.  

It's not all doom and gloom as there is a lot of young talent on this squad - even more than I thought going into the season....with a top 10 pick and a lot of cash this should be a playoff team next year...but the crater at QB is holding back the franchise....MCCown is a great mentor/bridge/coach but under no circumstances can he take valuable snaps and learning time from the younger kids any more....I understand that they stink but the Pats window is closing in a few yrs...maybe not as quick as we thought but even 2-3 yrs its going to end....focus should be a winning record with playoff experience next yr followed by taking the AFC East by 2019.  McCown will not be there then - use him as a valuable resource but thats just not on the field anymore......if the fans see this how can mgt/GM not?    

 
Kiddnets said:
4-7.....zero point in sticking with 38 yr old QB but Bowles will never make the change until every possible chance to make the playoffs no matter how ridiculous is gone.....even then he may still stubbornly not do it.
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Even the argument that McCown gives them the best chance to win is laughable at this point. He has literally cost them three games with "rookie mistake" type plays so far.

If Maccagnan has any power within the organization he needs to give Bowles two choices: 1. Play Petty or Hack or 2. Pack up your stuff.

 
Once again the defense really stepped up and there is some serious young talent in place in that unit. A few key free agent signings at CB could make it an elite level defense.

Robby Anderson has shocked me with his development - personally I thought a very good deep threat was his absolute ceiling, but he's starting to run great routes and is much stronger on the ball than his skinny frame should allow him to be. His first TD catch was one of the best in Jets' history and his second, showed great intelligence and athleticism to adjust his route (and to give McCown credit) at McCown's behest.

McGuire may not ever be an elite RB but with some improvements in the o-line he is more than adequate to carry the load. I would not waste any money or draft capital at the position. I'd sure up the o-line and let McGuire and Powell get another season running the ball.

ASJ got robbed again (the NY office must hate the guy). The Jets need to bring him back and with his history and lack of elite production they should be able to do so reasonably. ASJ, Anderson, Kearse, Enunwa, Stewart is not a bad receiver corp. and they could maybe spend a little money to add another piece.

As usual, the QB position will be the key to what this team can be going forward. There are a few ways this can be done, but it MUST be done and done correctly.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Once again the defense really stepped up and there is some serious young talent in place in that unit. A few key free agent signings at CB could make it an elite level defense.

Robby Anderson has shocked me with his development - personally I thought a very good deep threat was his absolute ceiling, but he's starting to run great routes and is much stronger on the ball than his skinny frame should allow him to be. His first TD catch was one of the best in Jets' history and his second, showed great intelligence and athleticism to adjust his route (and to give McCown credit) at McCown's behest.

McGuire may not ever be an elite RB but with some improvements in the o-line he is more than adequate to carry the load. I would not waste any money or draft capital at the position. I'd sure up the o-line and let McGuire and Powell get another season running the ball.

ASJ got robbed again (the NY office must hate the guy). The Jets need to bring him back and with his history and lack of elite production they should be able to do so reasonably. ASJ, Anderson, Kearse, Enunwa, Stewart is not a bad receiver corp. and they could maybe spend a little money to add another piece.

As usual, the QB position will be the key to what this team can be going forward. There are a few ways this can be done, but it MUST be done and done correctly.
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good stuff - 

Anderson - agree completely - thought he was a one trick pony...has shown to be a solid WR....Kearse, Anderson with Enuwa coming back next year is a very nice young core...ASJ keeps getting robbed but should be locked up as well to give them a great young TE as well....best offensive playmakers in a long time which  

McGuire - completely agree and I'll copy and paste my entire McCown argument to Forte....there is zero reason to be playing Forte down the stretch...I get Powell will be here next year but why they send out a gimpy 30 yr old Forte who will definitely be cut next year is ridiculous as well....McGuire has shown more than flashes and should get all the carries with Powell.  

With solid WRs/RBs they can concentrate on the OL which besides QB is an enormous hole....I personally think it needs to be completely rebuilt....I'd grab a stud OL in FA and depending on how the FA/draft goes grab another with a 1st or one of the 2d rd picks.  It's that important especially with a new QB next yr whether a rook or FA like Cousins/Smith.  

 
Another frustrating day as a Jets fan.

WTF was McCown thinking on that play? Come on, he has no excuse at this point.

ASJ got robbed again, but he also had a terrible drop.

That punt/kick returner has to go. He makes awful decisions back there. Give Whitehead a chance this week.

Bowles has the team playing hard (Kudos), but he's still clueless.

That penalty by Pennel and then him yukking it up after the game with Carolina was inexcusable.  He stayed on the field. Yet Bowles will comment on Anderson for his Pro Bowl comments to the camera.  Agreed with the above on Anderson. Gotta love how he fights for the ball.  I was so pissed at Kearse not even trying to catch that one low pass from McCown. I know it was a crappy pass, but damn, at least bend down and try to catch it.

The defense looked pretty good. Agree with the above. We need another CB or two, not to mention the ever elusive edge rusher.

Also, agree with the McCown and o-line comments.  We need to fix that o-line next year. We should have plenty of money. QB will be more difficult. We have to draft one for sure unless we can land Cousins.  I love that guy. Not the most talented, but the man can play and has a ton of guts in the pocket.

 
NYRAGE said:
Another frustrating day as a Jets fan.

WTF was McCown thinking on that play? Come on, he has no excuse at this point.

ASJ got robbed again, but he also had a terrible drop.

That punt/kick returner has to go. He makes awful decisions back there. Give Whitehead a chance this week.

Bowles has the team playing hard (Kudos), but he's still clueless.

That penalty by Pennel and then him yukking it up after the game with Carolina was inexcusable.  He stayed on the field. Yet Bowles will comment on Anderson for his Pro Bowl comments to the camera.  Agreed with the above on Anderson. Gotta love how he fights for the ball.  I was so pissed at Kearse not even trying to catch that one low pass from McCown. I know it was a crappy pass, but damn, at least bend down and try to catch it.

The defense looked pretty good. Agree with the above. We need another CB or two, not to mention the ever elusive edge rusher.

Also, agree with the McCown and o-line comments.  We need to fix that o-line next year. We should have plenty of money. QB will be more difficult. We have to draft one for sure unless we can land Cousins.  I love that guy. Not the most talented, but the man can play and has a ton of guts in the pocket.
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As I see it we'll have about $68M in updated over the cap numbers - figure $8M to bring back some key FAs...Enuwa, ASJ, Ealy....I think Mo Clay is going to command too much $ and I wouldnt break the bank on him as a #1 CB...$10M will be needed for the draft so that's $50M to spend....off season will hinge on QB....if they go for Cousins it will likely take $27-30M per yr to pry him from Skins....that would only leave $20M left but that should be enough for a decent not top  OL/CB...then they can use top 4 picks in draft (including 2 2d rders) on OL, CB and pass rusher..no trade up necessary so they'd have all of their picks to build....Alex Smith is also intriguing as he is almost surely a cut by KC at $20M cap with Mahomes in the wings....he could be nabbed for much less than Cousins at $20M or even a little less.....so that would be same upside of being able to use premium picks on needed talent and no trade up....I think Jets could make a serious playoff run with Cosins or Smith as QB with the picks being used properly.  

If they had to go rookie the good news is lots more FA to build but longer curve....plus good chance they'd have to use those 2d rd picks to trade up to get the one they want as a ton of teams need QB....I think I read they are at pick #7 so far with top 5 potential if they lose out. ...win a meaningless game or 2 down the stretch and they could drop out of the top 10....more incentive to take a long look at Petty/Hack.  

 
Kiddnets said:
As I see it we'll have about $68M in updated over the cap numbers - figure $8M to bring back some key FAs...Enuwa, ASJ, Ealy....I think Mo Clay is going to command too much $ and I wouldnt break the bank on him as a #1 CB...$10M will be needed for the draft so that's $50M to spend....off season will hinge on QB....if they go for Cousins it will likely take $27-30M per yr to pry him from Skins....that would only leave $20M left but that should be enough for a decent not top  OL/CB...then they can use top 4 picks in draft (including 2 2d rders) on OL, CB and pass rusher..no trade up necessary so they'd have all of their picks to build....Alex Smith is also intriguing as he is almost surely a cut by KC at $20M cap with Mahomes in the wings....he could be nabbed for much less than Cousins at $20M or even a little less.....so that would be same upside of being able to use premium picks on needed talent and no trade up....I think Jets could make a serious playoff run with Cosins or Smith as QB with the picks being used properly.  

If they had to go rookie the good news is lots more FA to build but longer curve....plus good chance they'd have to use those 2d rd picks to trade up to get the one they want as a ton of teams need QB....I think I read they are at pick #7 so far with top 5 potential if they lose out. ...win a meaningless game or 2 down the stretch and they could drop out of the top 10....more incentive to take a long look at Petty/Hack.  
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I thought it was closer to $80m plus we can save another $11m if we cut Mo. Plus we have several other potential and realistic cuts for savings.

 
Kiddnets said:
As I see it we'll have about $68M in updated over the cap numbers - figure $8M to bring back some key FAs...Enuwa, ASJ, Ealy....I think Mo Clay is going to command too much $ and I wouldnt break the bank on him as a #1 CB...$10M will be needed for the draft so that's $50M to spend....off season will hinge on QB....if they go for Cousins it will likely take $27-30M per yr to pry him from Skins....that would only leave $20M left but that should be enough for a decent not top  OL/CB...then they can use top 4 picks in draft (including 2 2d rders) on OL, CB and pass rusher..no trade up necessary so they'd have all of their picks to build....Alex Smith is also intriguing as he is almost surely a cut by KC at $20M cap with Mahomes in the wings....he could be nabbed for much less than Cousins at $20M or even a little less.....so that would be same upside of being able to use premium picks on needed talent and no trade up....I think Jets could make a serious playoff run with Cosins or Smith as QB with the picks being used properly.  

If they had to go rookie the good news is lots more FA to build but longer curve....plus good chance they'd have to use those 2d rd picks to trade up to get the one they want as a ton of teams need QB....I think I read they are at pick #7 so far with top 5 potential if they lose out. ...win a meaningless game or 2 down the stretch and they could drop out of the top 10....more incentive to take a long look at Petty/Hack.  
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McCown’s been playing better than Smith.

Also don’t think they need to take a long look with either Petty or Hack- the writing’s on the wall w both those guys.

 
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Smith is 33 with a much better resume than McCown....he's a winner where I hate to say it but McCown has been on a lot of losing teams and it shows

As for cap room - cap calculator page has $62M while main page has $79M...the difference may be in what the projected cap is to be next year....$79M would be great!  

As for Mo - he's only a $2M savings if cut as he still has a lot of dead money next year.  $9M dead money v. $11M cap gain so I believe they offset to a $2M net gain.  

Any way you look at it the team has a ton of cap room and some prime picks next year...it's probably the most important offseason in a decade.  If there is a FA QB signed then Im ok letting Bowles run it again...but if they draft a rookie QB that's hitching your wagon to a mediocre coach for at least another 2 yrs to develop him and I just cant justify that...

 
and here we go.....

Jets coach Todd Bowles said Josh McCown "is our quarterback."

The Jets are essentially out of playoff contention, but Bowles is not ready to see what Bryce Petty or Christian Hackenberg can do. That could change once the Jets are officially eliminated, but Ralph Vacchiano of SNY reports the team has "no plans currently" to get Petty or Hackenberg in a game. In a good matchup at home against the Chiefs, McCown will be a quality streamer this week.

 
Kiddnets said:
Smith is 33 with a much better resume than McCown....he's a winner where I hate to say it but McCown has been on a lot of losing teams and it shows

As for cap room - cap calculator page has $62M while main page has $79M...the difference may be in what the projected cap is to be next year....$79M would be great!  

As for Mo - he's only a $2M savings if cut as he still has a lot of dead money next year.  $9M dead money v. $11M cap gain so I believe they offset to a $2M net gain.  

Any way you look at it the team has a ton of cap room and some prime picks next year...it's probably the most important offseason in a decade.  If there is a FA QB signed then Im ok letting Bowles run it again...but if they draft a rookie QB that's hitching your wagon to a mediocre coach for at least another 2 yrs to develop him and I just cant justify that...
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No, Mo has a $20m cap number for next season. The dead money is $9m, so the savings is $11m. More importantly, it saves $12.5m in 2019 and $16.5m in 2020.

 
NYRAGE said:
No, Mo has a $20m cap number for next season. The dead money is $9m, so the savings is $11m. More importantly, it saves $12.5m in 2019 and $16.5m in 2020.
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good catch - looks like ive been reading it wrong...that's a big savings - between him, Forte and Skrine that would be $20M saved with $80M in cap space already....possible $100M in cap?  wow...Mo's a goner unless he restructures.    

They will need to sign Demario, ASJ, Enuwa but that shouldnt be too bad....lots of $ to drop on talent..will be interesting if they go all in on Smith/Cousins or put their chips on the draft.  

 
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Kiddnets said:
good catch - looks like ive been reading it wrong...that's a big savings - between him, Forte and Skrine that would be $20M saved with $80M in cap space already....possible $100M in cap?  wow...Mo's a goner unless he restructures.    

They will need to sign Demario, ASJ, Enuwa but that shouldnt be too bad....lots of $ to drop on talent..will be interesting if they go all in on Smith/Cousins or put their chips on the draft.  
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Exactly. We will have lots of money to spend. That's why i was rooting for a tank this year. Tons of money plus what would have been a top pick (still can be top 5). What potential new GM and coach wouldn't want that?

They need to revamp the o-line for sure. McCags doesn't like to draft linemen, so FA is a good source.

Those players you mentioned shouldn't cost that much. We're in great shape...well, except at QB (which is a big except).

 
NYRAGE said:
Hey, this idiot skipped a grade a million years ago. I thought they had a chance to make the playoffs because quite frankly, every other playoff team is pretty bad. That same Bills team is in that spot now a game and a half up. Ravens stink. Miami stinks, etc.

Of course, they would have 99% been one and done in the playoffs.




 
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Take a day off and be cooler please. Do not call other posters idiots.

 
NYRAGE said:
Exactly. We will have lots of money to spend. That's why i was rooting for a tank this year. Tons of money plus what would have been a top pick (still can be top 5). What potential new GM and coach wouldn't want that?

They need to revamp the o-line for sure. McCags doesn't like to draft linemen, so FA is a good source.

Those players you mentioned shouldn't cost that much. We're in great shape...well, except at QB (which is a big except).
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very good point that I wasnt thinking of.....with a top 10 pick and $100M in cap space the Jets will never be more attractive to a big time coach/GM....if a high profile, big time coach is available or is interested to they send Bowles/MAc packing?  I'd send Bowles packing regardless but I dont think Johnson has the guts to do it.....Mac is more difficult but if they can land a top coach/GM  that wants full power I dont think he's earned surviving that......interesting,.  

 
Kiddnets said:
very good point that I wasnt thinking of.....with a top 10 pick and $100M in cap space the Jets will never be more attractive to a big time coach/GM....if a high profile, big time coach is available or is interested to they send Bowles/MAc packing?  I'd send Bowles packing regardless but I dont think Johnson has the guts to do it.....Mac is more difficult but if they can land a top coach/GM  that wants full power I dont think he's earned surviving that......interesting,.  
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I agree this would be the perfect opportunity to attract a big time GM and HC, but unfortunately I also agree Woody will just accept the staus quo.

 
Thanks for the support guys. 

I've had a couple of hours to think about it and my psychologist will be happy to hear that I promise to be nicer to myself even when I'm self-deprecating.

Can I give a warning to the Moderator now? Anyway, all jokes aside, I'm happy to be back to discuss how I disappointed I am about the Jets or any other fantasy player that has let me down.

 
NYRAGE said:
Thanks for the support guys. 

I've had a couple of hours to think about it and my psychologist will be happy to hear that I promise to be nicer to myself even when I'm self-deprecating.

Can I give a warning to the Moderator now? Anyway, all jokes aside, I'm happy to be back to discuss how I disappointed I am about the Jets or any other fantasy player that has let me down.
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Better than self-defecating I suppose. :whistle:  

 
Todd from Utah said:
Yeah, I'd say so, especially for a paying customer of 10+ years that generally doesn't go around causing trouble here.
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I'm not a professional moderator, but it seems like posts should be read for context instead of just searching random words like "idiot" or "poop head" and then dropping the ban hammer when you get hits.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I'm not a professional moderator, but it seems like posts should be read for context instead of just searching random words like "idiot" or "poop head" and then dropping the ban hammer when you get hits.
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Truth be told, I was an idiot for thinking the Jets could make the playoffs a couple of weeks ago. It's like Charlie Brown trying to kick that football. Jets, Mets, Rangers, and Knicks fan. Year after year.  The world is not my oyster. It's a just a cruel sports torture chamber.

 
holy cow - the Giants bench Eli Manning for Geno Smith and the Jets are sticking with McCown.....Giants know how to succeed long term. Take notes JV Jet franchise.  

 
Kiddnets said:
holy cow - the Giants bench Eli Manning for Geno Smith and the Jets are sticking with McCown.....Giants know how to succeed long term. Take notes JV Jet franchise.  
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Yep. Giants have the balls to bench a two time Super Bowl champ and Bowles sticks with a journeyman bum.

 
Kiddnets said:
holy cow - the Giants bench Eli Manning for Geno Smith and the Jets are sticking with McCown.....Giants know how to succeed long term. Take notes JV Jet franchise.  
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Exactly. Giants have 1 bad year and they're gonna get a franchise QB ( possibly). Jets will slog their way to 6 and 10 and draft another corner at 11

Seems about right

 
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