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2018-19 NBA Thread: Magic Johnson leaves Lakers in order to pursue other jobs to be completely terrible at (4 Viewers)

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tjnc09 said:
The delusions from all these new Laker fans are hilarious.
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Been a Laker fan for 48 years and not delusional.  I don't see us getting any Warriors unless there are issues in that locker room.  Heard rumbles but have no idea what that locker rook is like.  But anybody who doesn't believe that the Lakers will add another big time player (e.g. Leonard) by next summer are kidding themselves.  Imagine the team next year if they don't have to give up the real components they want to keep. Laughingstocks then? I think not.  Give me Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, LeBron, Leonard/Cousins with Pope, Hart and a slew of veteran role playing mid level exception guys and we'll take our chances.

Somebody's going to Randle a multi-year deal and the Lakers won't be able to match if they are going after a max guy by next summer.  Don't know if sign and trade is doable based on cap.

 
This really is going to be awesome for the whole league. Still a lot of young talent in the East to watch, and of course, the Hornets and Magic (I love the Gordon re-signing, btw). The LeBron-Lakers will be fascinating. He's a terrible GM, and possibly at the Malone/Nash era of his career (certainly in age, but obviously, LeBron is a little different). He's clearly already making post career decisions too, so that helps.

On the surface, LeBron going to the Lakers  sucks for the rest of the League, but the opportunity here, is pretty astounding. They aren't winning a title in LeBron's age 34 season. Maybe, possibly starting in the age 35 season, but there's a whole lot of ways this thing could go haywire in the next 12 months. Do we really trust LeBron to keep that cap room for Kawhi available? With a 4 year deal, you'd think so, but LeBron could threaten (now) to leave when he's almost 40 and they'll sell off every young asset in February for old retreads if it makes LeBron a half percent more happy. Or maybe we get a 1st round playoff exit with Lonzo playing like #### followed by a public LeBron-LaVar feud when Lonzo takes all the heat. So many ways for this to turn into a situation that Kawhi and Klay want no part of. That's just the next couple of years. The turmoil created with a desperate, aging LeBron at the helm of player decisions on his way out could be pretty catastrophic, long-term. 

The League is never more fun than when Laker fans suffer. This is almost certainly a huge win for the Lakers. But, maybe, just maybe, we're about to be in for our best decade of Laker hating yet. 

 
tommyGunZ said:
Dear god....ooof.  

Looking forward to reading the Laker spin on this, because on the surface I hate it.  
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You seem like an awsome dude, so I don't want to to get too excited about some thing that could cause you so much displeasure. But a 34 year old LeBron James just became your GM. Maybe you get a title out of it. But maybe in a few years, you end up with an inflexible, capped out roster that'll win 30 games if they are lucky. It's happened a couple times already. Maybe the Laker are immune. 

It's all one year deals for now, so you should be in the clear. But it only takes one Klutch client that LeBron thinks he has to have to get past the Jazz to get the ball rolling.

 
pollardsvision said:
You seem like an awsome dude, so I don't want to to get too excited about some thing that could cause you so much displeasure. But a 34 year old LeBron James just became your GM. Maybe you get a title out of it. But maybe in a few years, you end up with an inflexible, capped out roster that'll win 30 games if they are lucky. It's happened a couple times already. Maybe the Laker are immune. 

It's all one year deals for now, so you should be in the clear. But it only takes one Klutch client that LeBron thinks he has to have to get past the Jazz to get the ball rolling.
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Yeah, this is what I fear.  That said, LeBron is in Europe, so I'm not sure he's pulling the strings.  This reeks of Magic.  And reeks is a kid word.  

Rondo and KCP making $21M this year?  Why not give that $20M to Boogie?????

 
mr. furley said:
Rondo is a weird choice
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Terrible choice. He's not a good basketball player in a vacuum, and an especially bad fit next to Lebron. They would have been much better off chasing somebody like Avery Bradley to play nominal PG while not actually having any PG role on offense.

On a related note, I think Payton is an upgrade for the Pels with a chance to improve a bit. Nice signing for almost nothing, IMO.

 
Big loss for the Pelicans with Rondo. Played phenomenal like usual in the playoffs.

Not sure of the fit of Rondo in LA unless Ball is moved.

 
Randle is one of the best young FAs on the market and them dump him for Rondo and Caldwell-Pope.  That doesn't make sense to me.  

 
tommyGunZ said:
Yeah, this is what I fear.  That said, LeBron is in Europe, so I'm not sure he's pulling the strings.  This reeks of Magic.  And reeks is a kid word.  

Rondo and KCP making $21M this year?  Why not give that $20M to Boogie?????
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I think the KCP signing was a decent one. If they could have signed a couple other value guys instead of Rondo, things would have looked good. Noel at $3.5/yr would have been a worthwhile gamble. If he works out he is basically what Tristan Thompson was a couple years ago.

 
You people trashing Rondo in here are either Laker stans or haven't watch much of him. Dude's one of the best passers of the last 20 years. Bron will make him and Rondo work.

 
ShamrockPride said:
You people trashing Rondo in here are either Laker stans or haven't watch much of him. Dude's one of the best passers of the last 20 years. Bron will make him and Rondo work.
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I'm guessing you haven't watched much of him since his prime Celtics days. Sure he is a good passer but he dominates the ball, can't score from anywhere on the court, and is one of the worst defensive PGs in the league, often not even trying to be/stay in position. Pretty much the opposite of what you want in a Lebron PG.

 
What's next Magic?  Kendrick Perkins?  

The euphoria of yesterday quickly being squandered.  Today is MozgovDeng-ish.  

 
ShamrockPride said:
You people trashing Rondo in here are either Laker stans or haven't watch much of him. Dude's one of the best passers of the last 20 years. Bron will make him and Rondo work.
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Yeah it's really just bizarre. They certainly aren't watching him in the playoffs. Guy makes everyone around him better. Him and Jrue just throttled CJ and Damien in Round 1. Has been tremendous the last 2 postseasons. Guess averaging nearly a triple double isn't good enough. FFS :lol:   Why the #### are you even bringing up Boston?? What the #### does that have to do with anything in 2018? :lmao:    

Spit my drink out reading Payton being an upgrade. :lol:  Guessing you haven't watched much of him. Guy is the drizzling ####s in the half court. 

 
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Shrugs said:
I'd be happy if the Lakers could manage to get Evans, Lopez and Randle. Then you get to see a year of Kawhi and add one of Durant, Kawhi, Klay next season without giving up any of the young players. Would make this year's team ...

PG: Ball, Evans

SG: KCP, Evans, Hart, Lance

SF: Ingram, Lance, Hart, Deng

PF: LeBron, Kuzma, Randle, Deng

C: Randle, Lopez, McGee, Wagner

Lot of depth there. Likely below Warriors and Hou, but potential improvement from youngsters would make it dangerous.
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This is all well and good, but good luck with this.

Klay has already put it out there he wants to stay with the Warriors and will most likely take a hometown discount. I love the counting on Kawhi, just like George last year.

Durant is the total wildcard.

Plus sooner or later the young guys will be getting paid and some won't wait for their chance to be the guy and move on.

 
It's stupid but the term renounce always cracks me up.  "I renounce you Julius Randle and everything you stand for"

Anyone have an idea how much Randle can get per year on the open market?

 
caustic said:
Nope - Rajon Rondo! :lmao:  1yr/9MM.
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A coach not use to having a superstar, LeBron, Lance Stephenson, Rondo, Lavar and Lonzo Balll all in LA? What the hell could possible go wrong? Is Metta World Piece and Dwight Howard interesting in going back to LAL? This will be the best TV ever in he history of TV!!!!

 
tjnc09 said:
Mybookie is kinda squarish it but they had LeBron to LA close at -5000 / 1500 (98% io)

They now have Lakers win total at 62.5 vs Warriors at 61.5

Lakers +125 to win title vs Warriors +200

and Kawhi to LA -1000 / 600

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I am not good at gambling, but I feel like you should bet a lot on that under for the Lakers and probably the over on the Warriors. I really think they coasted this last regular season when Curry got hurt and the Rockets were rolling. The Lakers being in their division might with LeBron will motivate them for the regular season.

 
On what bizarro NBA planet does Rondo make any sense for the Lakers?  Magic has no clue about roster construction. I hope the Cavs sign Randle just for the yuks.

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Yeah it's really just bizarre. They certainly aren't watching him in the playoffs. Guy makes everyone around him better. Has been tremendous the last 2 postseasons. Guess averaging nearly a triple double isn't good enough. FFS :lol:   Why the #### are you even bringing up Boston?? What the #### does that have to do with anything? :lmao:  

Spit my drink out reading Payton being an upgrade. :lol:  Guessing you haven't watched much of him. Guy is the drizzling ####s in the half court. 
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:lmao:  cocaine is a helluva drug

 
DJackson10 said:
A coach not use to having a superstar, LeBron, Lance Stephenson, Rondo, Lavar and Lonzo Balll all in LA? What the hell could possible go wrong? Is Metta World Piece and Dwight Howard interesting in going back to LAL? This will be the best TV ever in he history of TV!!!!
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You forget that he lead the Warriors to the best record while Kerr was recovering from surgery?

 
Only possible explanation is that Luke and Magic are instilling some of Pete Carroll's philosophy w/re to competition and practices.  Scrimmages going to be a lot different for Kuz, Lonzo and Ingram this fall.  Bring your A game and effort or get run out of the gym. 

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Yeah it's really just bizarre. They certainly aren't watching him in the playoffs. Guy makes everyone around him better. Him and Jrue just throttled CJ and Damien in Round 1. Has been tremendous the last 2 postseasons. Guess averaging nearly a triple double isn't good enough. FFS :lol:   Why the #### are you even bringing up Boston?? What the #### does that have to do with anything in 2018? :lmao:    

Spit my drink out reading Payton being an upgrade. :lol:  Guessing you haven't watched much of him. Guy is the drizzling ####s in the half court. 
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Kev is a little more down on Rondo than most. Him and I argued about Rondo with the Pelicans last year, but I think he is right here. Rondo worked for the Pelicans because Jrue can shoot, Mirotic could shoot, Davis could shoot, Cousins could even shoot, Etwaun Moore can shoot.

Now put Ball, Rondo, LeBron, Ingram and McGee out there and Ingram you don't really have to worry anything outside of 18ft. Maybe that is the Lakers game plan, get 60 illegal defense calls a game for offense.

 
I am a Cleveland homer, so I know the next decade is going to be awful. I will miss the LeBron the player but I am not going to miss LeBron the GM/Coach. It was worth it to get a championship but   the next few seasons should be historically bad.

Good luck Lakers fans, there will be a lot of good with a whole lot of frustration. 

 
tommyGunZ said:
Only possible explanation is that Luke and Magic are instilling some of Pete Carroll's philosophy w/re to competition and practices.  Scrimmages going to be a lot different for Kuz, Lonzo and Ingram this fall.  Bring your A game and effort or get run out of the gym. 
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They seem to be focusing on defense with these moves.

The Rondo thing concerns me because it reads like insurance that Ball's injury is more serious than we think. Or maybe a Ball trade is in the works.

I assume they know Randle isn't going to take a home town discount and wasn't going to sign a 1 year deal so they had to let him go. They're all about keeping their cap space free for next season it appears.

I don't know where they are cap space wise for this season now, but Brook Lopez would actually be a good fit with what they have now. I have no idea if he'd take a 1 year deal though.

 
msudaisy26 said:
 Rondo worked for the Pelicans because Jrue can shoot, Mirotic could shoot, Davis could shoot, Cousins could even shoot, Etwaun Moore can shoot.
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Exactly. And what I already said. Guy was just terrific for them in the postseason. Only reason anyone could argue that is if they simply didn't watch.... No need to include Cousins because the offense was going through him before his achilles. Rondo was an afterthought when Cousins was healthy. Pelicans offense as a whole didn't take off until Cousins was gone.  Very fun offense to watch in the playoffs with Rondo's ability to create for others. Really just a beautiful fit.

Only way this Rondo signing works is if Ball's out the door or more hurt than what is being told IMO. 

 
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I disagree with Tommy. Rondo is a winner. Rondo is tough. Plus it’s a one year deal. The Lakers are not going to win the championship this year anyhow. So they’re experimenting, getting whoever they can, and seeing who works out well with who. It’s all old right now. Very exciting. 

 
DJackson10 said:
A coach not use to having a superstar, LeBron, Lance Stephenson, Rondo, Lavar and Lonzo Balll all in LA? What the hell could possible go wrong? Is Metta World Piece and Dwight Howard interesting in going back to LAL? This will be the best TV ever in he history of TV!!!!
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What an easy roster to hate, can't make up that lineup. :lmao:

 
timschochet said:
I disagree with Tommy. Rondo is a winner. Rondo is tough. Plus it’s a one year deal. The Lakers are not going to win the championship this year anyhow. So they’re experimenting, getting whoever they can, and seeing who works out well with who. It’s all old right now. Very exciting. 
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:lmao:  Rondo is not a winner.  

 
I've done my best not to watch the Lakers but looking at Randle's stat line he looks like he has a bright future........really a good move dumping him for an 82 year old Rondo?

 
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