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2018 College Football Thread: Local man buys some teenage champions a 4 for 4 (3 Viewers)
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Doctor Detroit
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Where are Chad Morris and James Franklin now? How long did they stay at SMU and Vandy?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
I’m sure the topic of the elderly being less than optimal candidates for employment is a touchy subject for you, so I was trying to be nice.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
They left the programs in better places than they were before. When Les pulls a Spurrier and decides he’s too old for this #### and stops recruiting and then leaves in the middle of a season, we’ll see how how things go from there.
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Doctor Detroit
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Turner Gill was an up and coming coach, then he went to Kansas. Now he’s coaching at the biggest bible college in the U.S taking $500k to lose to Auburn by 50.
Tom Servo
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Buffalo first, then "moved up" to Kansas. The bible college fits Turner well though.
I had a shower thought this morning. Is a program like Kansas a step up from a program like UCF? Frost left after 2 years, but it just so happened his alma mater needed help desperately. Does Heupel stick around UCF long term, or is it a stepping stone for him also? I guess that is what I would consider a turning point for a program like UCF. When good coaches are willing to stay there long term.
Dedfin
Footballguy
I know that's not what you are doing right now, but please Doc do not besmirchify HBC Chad Morris, at least while he is the chief at Arkansas or until we turn on our own, which will likely happen in year 3.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Can we put posters on ignore for just one thread? We get it, you guys don’t like each other.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
whoknew
Footballguy
Go great to have the Hat back in college football -
.@jefflongKU has a new favorite @CoachLesMiles Les-ism.
Long told Miles he was surprised to hear Miles was a vegetarian.
“I’m a ‘flex-itarian,’” Miles said.
What? “If a piece of meat ends up on my fork, I’m likely to swallow it.”
.@jefflongKU has a new favorite @CoachLesMiles Les-ism.
Long told Miles he was surprised to hear Miles was a vegetarian.
“I’m a ‘flex-itarian,’” Miles said.
What? “If a piece of meat ends up on my fork, I’m likely to swallow it.”
bigmarc27
Footballguy
I just won’t respond to him anymore... no problem.
Can you guys guys beat the Dawgs this week. I’d love to hear Buck Belue cry on the radio.
BroncoFreak_2K3
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Footballguy
Has a lot to do with the conference situation if and when that comes up again. TCU kept Patterson, but would they have if the B12 never invited them? I think the best comparison is Boise, where they have kept coaches even against P5 offers, BUT there eventually comes an offer they can’t hang with.
In this particular case, I’d listen this year if I were him. It’s a good team and a good coach, but IMO nationally people don’t get how good Milton is. They should take a pretty big step back when they have to replace him.
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AAABatteries
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I like both you guys so I'm not picking sides - it's like listening to my kids argue. Eventually, I get to the point where I'm telling everybody to just stop talking.
And no, we can't beat UGA - far superior on both lines and CPJ's offense isn't what it once was. I think UGA is probably the 2nd most talented team in the country behind Bama. Tech will lose by 30. Unfortunately we are bowl eligible so next year we get to watch it all over again. Yippee!
bigmarc27
Footballguy
I like both you guys so I'm not picking sides - it's like listening to my kids argue. Eventually, I get to the point where I'm telling everybody to just stop talking.
And no, we can't beat UGA - far superior on both lines and CPJ's offense isn't what it once was. I think UGA is probably the 2nd most talented team in the country behind Bama. Tech will lose by 30. Unfortunately we are bowl eligible so next year we get to watch it all over again. Yippee!
I think UGa is actually a bit overrated. Their playcalling on offense is actually pretty poor and when they played the best defense they’ve faced, they got shut down. I’m curious how they’ll do against Bama.
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Steve Tasker
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I remain convinced that Gill will be successful at the mid-major level. He's a man of high character, a good father-figure-type leader, and the kind of coach that players will run through walls for.
Re: the Kansas move, I think he (rightfully) knew the UB program was at the end of its run. The team took a major step back in 2009 after winning the MAC Championship in 2008. The best QB in program history (through that time) had graduated, James Starks got injured in preseason and missed the entire year, and Naaman Roosevelt was a senior. The anointed starter QB ended up ditching UB for Cal to piggyback on his brother Keenan Allen's success. I have to think that Gill saw the writing on the wall and jumped at the chance to move back to the Midwest with a step-up in competition. He had dropped from 8 wins to 5 wins, in the MAC, and a Big 12 school is offering an opportunity.....I'd take it in a heartbeat.
I think what gets lost in a lot of his success is that he left the cupboard comparatively bare from a recruiting standpoint. His major recruiting bright spot was opening a pipeline into Florida, which ultimately landed Khalil Mack, the major feather in his recruiting cap. But that 2008 title team was mostly built on Jim Hofher recruits. Gill squeezed every bit of talent out of those teams, and I'm convinced he can do the same at Liberty or other mid-majors. Can he recruit in the Big 12 or another major conference? How much of the Kansas failure falls on him, and how much falls on Kansas? I have no idea.
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Ramblin Wreck
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Our only chance, IMO, is to control the clock with the option and force 2-3 turnovers. But I fear they will move the ball up and down the field and score at will on us. Then we will sweat out the Independence, Military or Quick Lane Bowl. Really, there is a Quick Lane Bowl.I like both you guys so I'm not picking sides - it's like listening to my kids argue. Eventually, I get to the point where I'm telling everybody to just stop talking.
And no, we can't beat UGA - far superior on both lines and CPJ's offense isn't what it once was. I think UGA is probably the 2nd most talented team in the country behind Bama. Tech will lose by 30. Unfortunately we are bowl eligible so next year we get to watch it all over again. Yippee!
MAC_32
Footballguy
Would the ACC consider going to 16? who would tag along? and would Florida St/Miami flex muscle to ensure it doesn't happen?
I'm still surprised Boise and BYU haven't made their way to the Big 12 yet.
MAC_32
Footballguy
You answered it - recruiting. He coached up someone else's guys than bailed before his leaner group could get exposed. That's a recipe for disaster at a place like Kansas. He should stay in FCS. He'll have a long career there. Can't sustain in FBS if you're not a good recruiter - unfortunately.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
ACC isn't adding anyone until Notre Dame. Even then I think it's a better chance they stay at 15 than go to 16. They aren't taking UConn, West Va, or lol the suggestion of Navy. Who else is left? The school they'd be interested in is Texas if the B12 ever broke up.
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All of this is anecdotal. As an assistant at Nebraska the word was that he didn't work that hard at recruiting. At Kansas he was supposedly over the top with the preaching. That plays well to a point I guess, but some made it sound like he did more preaching than coaching. Which is why I made my comment earlier about Liberty being a good place for him.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I mean, they just made the jump to FBS this year....it's not like the pieces are really in place.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
He has always been very open about his faith, and I agree that Liberty is probably a good fit in that area.All of this is anecdotal. As an assistant at Nebraska the word was that he didn't work that hard at recruiting. At Kansas he was supposedly over the top with the preaching. That plays well to a point I guess, but some made it sound like he did more preaching than coaching. Which is why I made my comment earlier about Liberty being a good place for him.
gump
Footballguy
Not listening to any Woe is Us spin from Barners this week, Buddy! (That includes my Barner family.)
bigmarc27
Footballguy
Navy is the only way the conference gets ND though. ND will never not play Navy - they’re tied together, so it would have to be a conference game for them to accept an offer. I don’t think that happens, or happens anytime soon, but that’s item #1 on the list if they ever did join the as a full member.
Ramblin Wreck
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Capella
Footballguy
I know they said it was for academics but with some of the recent stuff that has come out about some the colleges, they can't use that line anymore.
Capella
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Jayded
Footballguy
I wouldn't agree. Navy is on the recurring calendar like most, but USC is the linchpin team to ever get ND into a conference. If ND couldn't play USC to an agreed upon schedule, it's unlikely to move.
FWIW, ND has tried to join conferences (namely the Big Ten) multiple times and has been blocked when attempting to do so.
Capella
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bigmarc27
Footballguy
Right, I know an ND guy and it’s always USC and Navy. Obviously USC isn’t an option for the ACC, so they have to turn the other annual game into a conference game, then ND can play USC as their OOC rival every season.
Big 10 seems like a better fit, but contractually I don’t believe that can happen for a very long time.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Notre Dame plays in the Big10 for hockey now - so they may be closer to joining that league than you think. Big 10 is going to need them in hockey to - rough couple of weeks for the big names in that conference
MAC_32
Footballguy
Given the move they made in 2015 I think they're now further away from joining the Big 10 in football. 5 games per season against the ACC and bailed on Michigan, Purdue, and Michigan St.
Capella
Footballguy
I believe their contract with the ACC gives the conference the right to add them if ND wants to join a conference. Big 10 is boxed out.
Moe.
Footballguy
I was not a fan of him as a coach his last few years at OU but I think if you had to put odds on OU's next coach he'd be the favorite.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Why wouldn't Notre Dame be like every other college and just look out for it's best interests? Navy and ND aren't primary rivals. Yes they respect each other, yes it's a nice long tradition of playing. But if ND found it in their best interest to join the ACC, they'd just either keep the game as out of conference or end the second longest steak.
Leroy Hoard
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gump
Footballguy
Great question because not much...young guy without direct Saban connections other than being in LA around the time he was there. Has fit well from everything you can tell. But he has another young guy Saban loves in front of him at DC (Tosh Lupoi)...so it’ll be pretty ‘easy’ to pull him.
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