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Role may be a factor as well. He's not a CF anymore and didn't hit like a corner last year.Why is Adam Jones not signed? This seems pretty ridiculous.
He can still play CF because he doesn't make mistakes and still has a CF arm. His range is obviously fading but he can basically play all three OF positions (probably above average in LF), provide power, and he's a good clubhouse guy. I would think contenders would be very interested.
He was pretty terrible last year and he probably doesn't wanna sign a minimal contract. Dude is getting oldWhy is Adam Jones not signed? This seems pretty ridiculous.
I had mentioned it earlier in this thread I believe, but some players are just either overplaying their hand or else not interested in signing for below their worth. The example I used previously was Jermaine Dye, who was coming off a year where he played 141 games, and had a 793 ops (102 OPS+) with 27 hr's and 81 rbis. While not all-star caliber numbers he was still a solid middle of the lineup contributor for a team. Jones last year he played 145 games 732 ops (102 OPS+) with 15 hr's and 63 rbis. And while I'm too stupid to figure out how Jones's oWAR was twice as high as Dye's cause their numbers looked pretty damn similar to me, Dye was not given an offer he wanted and never played again. Granted he was a few years older than Jones but still. Market for 30+ replacement level outfielders is drying up. Surprised Cutch was able to get something as lucrative as he was.Why is Adam Jones not signed? This seems pretty ridiculous.
Below average defensively CF's with impatient approach's don't age well. Before he was able to offset a low OBP with power, but that went over the cliff last year - and underlying data indicates it's probably legit. That makes it even more problematic to move him out of center. Steamer projects him for 266/307/430 and 0.9 WAR and I find it difficult to object. If I'm a team then I'm not paying anything meaningful for that sort of player. Since he's unsigned I'm sure his price is substantially higher than what teams have offered. And given what he's been earning annually that makes sense.Doctor Detroit said:Why is Adam Jones not signed? This seems pretty ridiculous.
Of course he is going to say that...................whether or not it's true is another story.
It's kind of true for a lot of players. Some guys just hate the process and will only want to do it once. Don't want to keep moving their family. I know if I was in position I'd be telling my agent hey Its not just about the money here but I also rather not go through this again. I want my next contract my last and to stay around in a city who wants me and has a chance to win.
Sure, moving sucks for anybody. I hate to move and most people like stability. It's definitely an added benefit but I can guarantee that if it was allowed and some other team threw him $50M a year to change teams it would likely happen. Contract value = Ego stroking for these players. None of them need the bags of money they are getting but to be able to whip out your contract value in the ego battle is a huge thing for professional athletes.
And then sometimes it's not always about the money it's whats best for your family overall.
Yup I'm intrigued by how this will end up. In the weeks leading up to the signing, it seems like most Philly fans were fairly anti-Harper. The general sentiment seemed to be that he really didn't want to be in Philly. So it seemed like most of the fanbase was fed up. Much of what I heard on sports talk was "he's not even that good", "I hope we don't pay that kind of money for a .240 hitter", "he never won anything for the Nationals even with all of that pitching", etc.
Roger Clemens is in George Steinbrenner’s box!!DJackson10 said:
To me that's just the typical on no one will sign here. Some people were still triggered and upset when Lebron didn't sign with the 76ers during NBA FA and they didn't get any of the big names they were so desperately promised so they figured just typical for a GM of a team here to make these claims and then strikeout again. I also think Guys like Cataldi and Missinelli are a problem with this type of thinking too. Whenever I'm debating Philly sports and the person starts bringing up the trigger words Miss and Cataldi use I end the convo right there because theres no point In trying to reason with those people.
Jim Buck if you don't now is one of the two cousins who is part of the Phillies ownership group. No relations to Joe and Jack Buck the announcers.
Harper's adjust OPS+ of 139 ranks him 7th among active players. His batting average is irrelevant to me if his OBP is ~.400 and his slugging is ~.500.
He doesn't even need to recruit Trout. Trout actually helped recruit him to Philly. Trout is a local guy who knows more about the area, the teams and the fans than Harper. He's building a massive home in Millville. His family is from the area, he comes back in the offseason to workout at the Phenom Factory. If Trout doesn't sign an extension in Anaheim, I'm sure Philly will be at or near the top of his list of preferred destinations. The Phillies have structured Harper's contract to allow them to back up a Brinks truck for Trout if/when the opportunity presents itself. I'm pretty sure if they get the chance the Phillies won't get outbid for Trout.fred_1_15301 said:Since Harper signed with the Phils, every other sentence out of his mouth has been related to recruiting Trout in the next 2 years. Perhaps he should just focus on the current team and not worry about what happens 2 years from now.
After all, his current team is actually pretty damn good.
I understand Trout’s history. I still don’t see why Harper feels the need to comment about it so much when it’s still 2 years away. He has a current team to focus on and so does Trout.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but the Angels have supposedly had internal dialogue about trading Trout. Skaggs and Heaney are interesting potential breakout candidates, but if they don't...well, look behind them in the rotation. This team could be in sell mode come July. Again. On the heels of three consecutive losing seasons. This may not be about 2021...
He's just endearing himself to the phans/city. Making sure there's no leftover hard feelings from the contract negotiations. Local sports-talk is absolutely whipped up in a frenzy over this. Goal achieved.
But to Harper, it is about 2021 because he keeps saying "in 2 years". Perhaps this is just a unique situation but I can't recall a situation where a superstar signed with a new team and immediately started publicly recruiting other players who were still a few years away from free agency. As another poster mentioned, Trout is probably coming to Philly anyways because he wants to be there. I don't think Harper needs to say anything publicly.
Adam Jones to Arizona for 1/$3M.He can still play CF because he doesn't make mistakes and still has a CF arm. His range is obviously fading but he can basically play all three OF positions (probably above average in LF), provide power, and he's a good clubhouse guy. I would think contenders would be very interested.
So I say dynasty, it’s really a 14 team / keep 20. The first pick I believe was Taylor Trammell.
It can still be one batter if it finishes a half inning. So you can't have specialists start an inning but they can finish.
I had no idea my old baseball board was running still their keeper league. I accidentally off loaded my yahoo fantasy app so I never got any status messages. Either way I was contacted through the groups facebook Football Keeper league group I was on the clock. #2 pick we can keep everyone but only allowed 23 players per roster. Drop someone if we are already at 23 and 2 rounds. With Kimbrel on N/A spot I have 2 open spots. Needed a catcher so I picked up Francisco Mejia from the Padres.
Yeah he also wants to add a DH to the NL talk about boring The reason the DH was added to begin with was the American League wanted to gain fans and do something different.
Nice I'm glad because the DH sucks unless it's the All Star game. Hated it in little league because coaches use to use that as the argument of giving one of the kids "playing time". Playing time in our leagues always referred to player taking ABs and playing the field not just getting ABs.
