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2018 NHL Offseason Thread: E.Karlsson is a Shark! (1 Viewer)

I never saw a single mock draft where Wahlstrom or Dobson fell out of the top 10, so I'm sure there's something to that.

But most mocks I saw had Kotkaniemi at least going in the top 10, so I'm not sure how much Bergevin should be blamed. Chicago taking Boqvist at 8 and then Kravtsov to the Rags at 9 seemed like the biggest reaches.

Edit: And Hayton, as well.
6th ranked European skater. just because mocks thought Vancouver liked him, and maybe they did, he was ranked in the range of the Isles picks.  and even if he still goes in the top 10 maybe another reach doesn’t happen.  it just doesn’t make much sense to me.  at worst you take Zadina and keep the Isles pick for Pacioretty even if Buffalo isn’t going to move O’Reilly, which is exactly what they are looking for.  they clearly were drafting for need regardless of how much they love the kid and it potentially hurt a deal they wanted (and a good deal for them imo).  could end up looking pretty bad.

 
Willie O'Ree finally made the Hall of Fame, which makes this hockey fan very happy.

I did a paper for a sports management class in college on O'Ree and his impact on the game, at a time when he still wasn't really a well-known or celebrated figure. Obviously the number of black players in the league at the time I wrote it was nowhere even close to what it is now. The fact it took more than a decade for another black player to make the NHL (Mike Marson ... I'll always remember his hockey card in the 1975-76 Topps set) is sad, and none really enjoyed prolonged success in the league until Tony McKegney.

 
Zadina was considered to be the best pure scorer in the draft. I can't believe he fell out of the top five.
Feels like Drouin going after Barkov all over again but that worked out pretty well for the Panthers. Columbus taking DuBois over Puljujarvi off to a similar start too. Maybe Bergevin outsmarted everybody but I doubt it. 

 
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Pretty cool that Marty St Louis gets to go into the Hall of Fame with Marty Brodeur. Less cool that Bettman is part of the class too. 

 
The B's made their presentation to Tavares out in California today with only Neely, Sweeney and Cassidy in attendance. Supposedly it lasted less than two hours.

I have to figure it's going to take something close to 7/$77M (or more) to land him, given what the Islanders supposedly have offered. Which means assuredly the Bruins have to believe they can move out at least one of Krejci ($7.25M for three more with NMC :wall: ), Backes ($6M for three more ... also NMC :X :X :X ) or Krug ($5.25M for next two), given that they're already only roughly $11M under the cap now.

I haven't looked closely yet at what the other suitors might need to do:

Tampa Bay: $5.3M cap space left :oldunsure:

Kings: $3.17M cap space left :oldunsure:

Dallas: $19.8M cap space left  :shock:

San Jose: $18.8M cap space left  :shock:

Islanders: $32.75M cap space left   :shock:   :shock:   :shock:

 
Pretty cool that Marty St Louis gets to go into the Hall of Fame with Marty Brodeur. Less cool that Bettman is part of the class too. 
When I saw Bettman on the little picture thing I figured he was a presenter or something. How the F is he going into the Hall?

 
pretty good article from Dellow on the Flames/Canes trade

Ultimately, it’s the risk that they’ve taken on that kind of troubles me from Calgary’s perspective. Whatever Dougie Hamilton’s issues with fitting into a team might be, he’s a first pairing right shot defenceman on a reasonable contract for the next few years. Hanifin and Lindholm are players who are going to have to receive significant contracts despite not really having established that they are difference makers. Calgary is, in my view, taking a significant risk that they’ve acquired two expensive players who will never be difference makers. In order for this trade to work well for them, they probably need to have one of those players be something that they haven’t yet proven that they are.

 
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Toronto and Tavares really seems like a possibility to me. Scary if they could pull that off somehow.

also, new 31 thoughts up: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-eyes-john-tavares-ufa-interview-period/

Boston gets a meeting while Montreal and Vegas don't? Interesting.
Who the heck would want to go to Montreal? Team sucks. Crazy hockey market. High taxes. Toronto also is crazy and higher taxes than US but at least they're looking like they are on the right track. Plus TO is close to home for JT. 

 
Who the heck would want to go to Montreal? Team sucks. Crazy hockey market. High taxes. Toronto also is crazy and higher taxes than US but at least they're looking like they are on the right track. Plus TO is close to home for JT. 
just fascinating to me how nobody ever wants to go to Montreal. world class city. one of most iconic franchises in the NHL.

 
Sheary could be a nice pickup. Team badly needs LW help.
Botterill signed him originally, so he knows what he's getting. I think his 16-17 season was largely Crosby spinoff but he's not as bad as he looked last season either. Or maybe he isn't very good but at 2/6 on his deal, he's probably still a better value than anyone signing on July 1.

 
I’ve known Sheary and his family since before their UMass days. Good people. Looking forward to seeing what he can do in Buffalo.

 
When I saw Bettman on the little picture thing I figured he was a presenter or something. How the F is he going into the Hall?
Like him or not, I don't really, he has shepherded the league through a lot of growth.  I think he has enough fails that I wouldn't put him in the hall, but it isn't a horrible thing.

 
@DarrenDreger

Condition on draft pick. If Sheary scores 20 goals or 40 pts or Buf trades Hunwick before the '19 draft, it flips to a 3rd round pick.

 
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Like him or not, I don't really, he has shepherded the league through a lot of growth.  I think he has enough fails that I wouldn't put him in the hall, but it isn't a horrible thing.
I'm sure there will be lots of stories written about how much the league has grown under his watch. Hard to argue against that when you consider this is soon to be a 32-team league and the salary cap is basically at $80MM/team with an expansion franchise in Seattle paying $650MM just to join.

But I think while most would agree that the league has grown significantly under Bettman, it's also true that someone better may have been able to do even more with it in the same time span.

 
Very nice depth move for the Sabres and it clears cap room for the Pens.Good move for both sides :thumbup:
cap hit for these 2 guys combined is the same as it is for Moulson for the upcoming season.

Moulson has a $5MM cap hit but just a $2MM salary ($1MM will be paid on July 1st). So, if someone trades for him after July 1st, they only owe $1MM for a $5MM cap hit. Seems like that would a pretty useful trade chip for teams like Ottawa that want to reach the salary floor.

 
Mark Madden‏ @MarkMadden

Defenseman Jack Johnson has agreed to a 5-yr deal w/the Penguins. Will become official Sunday when NHL free agency officially begins.

 
More on the Johnson deal coming-

Jason Mackey‏@JMackeyPG

.@MarkMaddenX first reported that the Penguins intend to sign defenseman Jack Johnson Sunday to a five-year deal. Confirming that. Source says it will be in the $16 million range total (between $3-$3.5 million AAV).

 
tom22406 said:
More on the Johnson deal coming-

Jason Mackey‏@JMackeyPG

.@MarkMaddenX first reported that the Penguins intend to sign defenseman Jack Johnson Sunday to a five-year deal. Confirming that. Source says it will be in the $16 million range total (between $3-$3.5 million AAV).
wow. I thought there were rumors he'd be going for $6MM/year, which seemed like a certain disaster. that's a lot of term but pretty low cap hit.

he needs all the money he can get after his parents fleeced him.

 
Kevin Weekes‏@KevinWeekes

*Breaking News* I can confirm @Capitals Have agreed to 1yr, 1Million Deal with Playoff Performer Smith Pelley. Stanley Cup Winner,Loves playing in Dc, Loved by his Teammates. Took less to stay.

:wub: :wub: :wub:

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
I'm sure there will be lots of stories written about how much the league has grown under his watch. Hard to argue against that when you consider this is soon to be a 32-team league and the salary cap is basically at $80MM/team with an expansion franchise in Seattle paying $650MM just to join.

But I think while most would agree that the league has grown significantly under Bettman, it's also true that someone better may have been able to do even more with it in the same time span.
Dellow had the tweet of the year, re:Bettman:

Also going into the Hall of Fame: compound interest. “I had a dollar and look how much it grew over 25 years!”

 
Friedmann with some FA tidbits:

The blue line market took a hit when John Carlson returned to Washington. Multiple reports indicate Jack Johnson is going to Pittsburgh. Kevin Connauton, who scored 11 goals in 2017-18, remained in Arizona. The Coyotes are also keeping two of next summer’s biggest prizes: Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Niklas Hjalmarsson. The expectation is Drew Doughty will commit to Los Angeles. Tampa Bay GM Steve Yzerman said he wants to extend Ryan McDonagh, and when Yzerman tips his hand like that, there’s a good chance it happens. It is believed talks are underway.

All eyes are on Ottawa and Erik Karlsson. But, if you’re not in that race, there aren’t too many full-time, under-30 options.

Washington is making a serious run at keeping Michal Kempny. There’s Ian Cole, overtime hero John Moore, Greg Pateryn — and Calvin de Haan.

De Haan did not play after Dec. 16, 2017, needing shoulder surgery that ended his season. That occurred in January, and “after two weeks of sitting around doing nothing,” as he joked Tuesday, de Haan began the rehab process.
Teams lining up to throw money at Ian Cole, John Moore and Greg Pateryn really says it all. Kempny would have been in that class too if not for his playoff showing...

De Haan is going to get like 5/25M or something insane, isn't he?

 
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Very nice depth move for the Sabres and it clears cap room for the Pens.Good move for both sides :thumbup:
I guess the thing i don't understand is the reaction from some that Sheary is no big loss for Pens because his contract was somewhat inflated.

I get that the Pens had to give something to get BUF  to take Hunwicks contract. But who fills Sheary role? Sprong? Wasnt he the guy they refused to call up at crunch time last year?

Maybe I'm overvaluing Sheary because he killed the Flyers. It just seems to me that there's an assumption that any winger can be plugged in and be a 20 goal scorer. 

 
I guess the thing i don't understand is the reaction from some that Sheary is no big loss for Pens because his contract was somewhat inflated.

I get that the Pens had to give something to get BUF  to take Hunwicks contract. But who fills Sheary role? Sprong? Wasnt he the guy they refused to call up at crunch time last year?

Maybe I'm overvaluing Sheary because he killed the Flyers. It just seems to me that there's an assumption that any winger can be plugged in and be a 20 goal scorer. 
Didn't Rust take on that role last year?

 
Rust took a definite step forward but he was already on roster so they're still minus a middle 6 winger. The articles I've seen mention replacing Sheary with Sprong.
Sprong is pretty ripe and likely ready for a role with the big club. Put up 32 goals and 65 points in 65 games in the AHL last year.

 
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I guess the thing i don't understand is the reaction from some that Sheary is no big loss for Pens because his contract was somewhat inflated.

I get that the Pens had to give something to get BUF  to take Hunwicks contract. But who fills Sheary role? Sprong? Wasnt he the guy they refused to call up at crunch time last year?

Maybe I'm overvaluing Sheary because he killed the Flyers. It just seems to me that there's an assumption that any winger can be plugged in and be a 20 goal scorer. 
I think in Pittsburgh you can plug anyone in that role and get 20 goals. I would expect Sprong to easily top Sheary's numbers if he gets a full year in the too 9, with PP time. 

 
I guess the thing i don't understand is the reaction from some that Sheary is no big loss for Pens because his contract was somewhat inflated.

I get that the Pens had to give something to get BUF  to take Hunwicks contract. But who fills Sheary role? Sprong? Wasnt he the guy they refused to call up at crunch time last year?

Maybe I'm overvaluing Sheary because he killed the Flyers. It just seems to me that there's an assumption that any winger can be plugged in and be a 20 goal scorer. 
I think you are confusing Guentzel and Sheary.  In 6 games against the Flyers, Guentzel had 6 goals, 7 assists and was a +10, while Sheary had 2 assists as was a -1 overall.

 
@DarrenDreger As per Joe Resnick, agent for Rick Nash, Rick remains undecided on playing next season and will forego the July 1st signing period.

 
neat trade for Boston. picking up a guy who doesn't even want to play anymore.
Sweeney definitely regretted giving up the No. 1 pick last weekend. But don't forget, Nash did suffer another concussion in March and never seemed right after that (well, other than disappearing in the playoffs). You have to wonder if he thinks it's just not worth it any more.

 
https://sports.yahoo.com/puck-daddy-bag-mail-teams-tavares-away-cup-131644114.html
 

Casey asks: “Do the Penguins need to make a move this offseason to really contend? If so, how big?

I don’t think so. They have a lot of talent on the roster (though certainly less now that they traded Hunwick and Sheary to free up cap space and make a run at Jack Johnson).

Johnson, by the way, is a total waste of money. He’s awful. Was getting healthy-scratched by Columbus last year and it wasn’t because Columbus had a surfeit of top talent on the blue line. And to give him a five-year deal at any cap hit, at 31 years old, is beyond dumb. You might as well throw $3.5 million a year in the toilet.
:lmao:

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
I'm sure there will be lots of stories written about how much the league has grown under his watch. Hard to argue against that when you consider this is soon to be a 32-team league and the salary cap is basically at $80MM/team with an expansion franchise in Seattle paying $650MM just to join.

But I think while most would agree that the league has grown significantly under Bettman, it's also true that someone better may have been able to do even more with it in the same time span.
He's no Goodell that's for sure.

 

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