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Which is, you know, the point I'm making. Furyk didn't pick the right guys.Here is the thing about Captain’s picks, the Captain can pick whoever he wants.
Which is, you know, the point I'm making. Furyk didn't pick the right guys.Here is the thing about Captain’s picks, the Captain can pick whoever he wants.
He's finished 2nd in every major and won the TPC. He'll get it but his driving is the weak spot. Augusta seems like the one he'll get to me.He's definitely not a closer. I think he will eventually get one though, he seems to get himself into position through Saturday enough. One of these times he will string it together for the whole weekend. In general he is an overrated golfer, with nothing to show.
This is how Hazeltine set it up.Lot of craziness in here. There's a reason the US has only won in Europe twice in the last 30 years. It's hard to beat the Europeans at their game. Believe me, this course was a completely different style of golf than most of the US was used to.
They didn't cut the rough for 2 months. Even the US Open doesn't go as crazy as they did.
They narrowed the fairways down so that at 280+ yards almost all the fairways were barely 20 yards across to take away the US's length advantage.
They had the greens running much slower than the championship speed the US courses are known for.
It's a big deal to be able to set up a course to your team's advantage. It's an even bigger deal to have 50,000 fans cheering for your side. Was it still disappointing? Yes, but it wasn't surprising.
If I'm the US Captain in 2020, I'm asking Whistling Straights to widen the fairways to 50-60 yards across and to cut every bit of rough on the course to 1-2 inches. No long thick rough, no fescue. Just short and easy for any strong player to hit out of. Let's see our big bombers swing like they're in a scramble all weekend.
Then, roll all the greens to a 13+ and shave all the false edges and run offs down, so that a 2-3 club difference in iron length becomes a huge advantage. Give some of that home cooking back to them.
Yeah, he looked itTiger is one of the hottest golfers in the world right now.
Chambeaux was bad. Phil was worse. Patrick Reed blew chunks. Tiger played horrible. That's why there USA lost. Everyone else played good enough.Finau was a perfectly acceptable pick. I don't see how you keep Tiger off the team in any situation. Guy is for all intents world #1 in recent month or two.
Johnny calling out the captains picks.
Phil was an abortion of a pick. That much is clear. Chambeau....dunno. Maybe.
It just means set the course up fast and wide so the guys from the USA can take advantage of their length advantage on tee shots.i don't understand any of this, but i am convinced this is the way to go.
Yeah he doesn't ever seem excited to be there.Tiger winning last week was the worst thing that could have happened to him as far as the Ryder Cup goes. Easy to see how he'd have a let down.
We need a couple more Thomas/Spieth types. Not even sure who that'd be though.
During the course of play, for extra motivation European team captain, Thomas Bjørn, promised that if they won, he'd get a tattoo with the final score.JuniorGong said:Betting on Europe every two years is one of the best value bets in sports. They are always underdogs and almost always win.
Tiger looked emotionally drained. Really tired. It's too bad that his year had to end this way. It was an amazing comeback year for him.Yeah he doesn't ever seem excited to be there.
Agree with all points.So we took a team over there that can't hit it straight and can't make big putts. Meanwhile, Europe only has 2 of those types in Rory and Rahm. Their other 10 are grinders.
In retrospect we should make captains picks that fit the course, rather than those playing the best. Three of the captains - Furyk, Kuchar, and Johnson would have played great on this course. Kisner is another that comes to mind as a great putter.
US captains picks as far as I remember ... Tiger got 0. Phil got 0. Finau got 1. DeChambeau got 0. I may be off a bit, but there's your answer to why the U.S. lost.
At Whistling Straights we should make the course 7600 yards, soft, and trim the rough to 1 inch over 280 yards from the tee.
I would drop tiger, Phil and dechambeauOur captain's picks were Tiger, Phil, and Bryson. That's it. We can ##### all we want about them, but who was better for the team?
Bryson was one of the better golfers down the stretch this year as far as results go and had a nice chunk of top 30's this season. But, he was unimpressive in the majors/The Players and didn't play in the match play event. Those are big red flags IMO, but who's complaining today about Jim's picks if he left a "top 10" ranked golfer at home?
Phil was just a bad pick, enough said there.
Tiger I'm on board with and I don't think there's 4 golfers (Bubba included) we left at home that change anything anyways.
Zach and Kuchar are at the top of my list and Zach is on the team for sure over Phil.
Other than that, who is there? Schauffele, Sneds, Stanley, Cantlay, Keegan, Berger, Woodland???? A few cases can be made here I guess.
Would have? No. Because all the fan-bois would have a cow. Should have? That's a completely different question. Woods has never really ever gotten good results at this event. He doesn't have a winning record all time, and this includes the time when he actually playing well on a consistent round by round basis. Sadly, this isn't even the first time he's gone win-less in the event. Last time he was playing on a winning team he needed to be carried. The captains have struggle to find anyone to play with him. He generally excels in singles, but thats it.Any of you actually thinking Tiger would have, should have, or could have been cut are out of your ####### minds. Was absolutely never going to happen. And short of injury he'll probably make (if not outright qualify) for the next one.
There is absolutely no precedent to sit the OWGR #1 player. You have to be out of your mind to think this would ever happen even if he was 0-40.Would have? No. Because all the fan-bois would have a cow. Should have? That's a completely different question. Woods has never really ever gotten good results at this event. He doesn't have a winning record all time, and this includes the time when he actually playing well on a consistent round by round basis. Sadly, this isn't even the first time he's gone win-less in the event. Last time he was playing on a winning team he needed to be carried. The captains have struggle to find anyone to play with him. He generally excels in singles, but thats it.
https://www.rydercup.com/news-media/usa/tiger-woods-ryder-cup-career-record
http://www.owgr.com/rankingThere is absolutely no precedent to sit the OWGR #1 player. You have to be out of your mind to think this would ever happen even if he was 0-40.
Silly me. You are right. Woods played great!You are nuts. He's only #13 because he's played in like 22 events. He shows up and misses 10 cuts with a knee he'd be #1.
@Otis
Facts are hard.Silly me. You are right. Woods played great!
Its this type of thinking that hurt the US side.
They are and they aren't on your side here.Otis said:Facts are hard.
This year's edition of the RyderCup team needed guys more in the Corey Pavin type mold. Length off the tee wasn't needed here (and you could make a case that it actually hurt. Not a lot of drivers were being pulled). Corey was always a short hitter and he was forced to be accurate. He made his money on and around the greens.The guy who could have really helped the US this weekend was Kevin Kisner. He is one of the best putters on tour. Billy Horschel is another great putter that could have helped the US. Both would have been out of the box picks but that Is probably what was required if they were going to win on foreign soil.
Patrick Reed and his crazy wife came out swinging before all the champagne had been finished which is great. God that crazy broad must be an absolute handful but she certainly has that fat cheater fully in her corner.
Forgot about Kisner. Sneds was in my list for his putting, but Kisner is probably the better name there at the moment.The guy who could have really helped the US this weekend was Kevin Kisner. He is one of the best putters on tour. Billy Horschel is another great putter that could have helped the US. Both would have been out of the box picks but that Is probably what was required if they were going to win on foreign soil.
Patrick Reed and his crazy wife came out swinging before all the champagne had been finished which is great. God that crazy broad must be an absolute handful but she certainly has that fat cheater fully in her corner.