What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

2019 College football thread - It's 2020, yo. Go to the new thread. (1 Viewer)

Their losses are to LSU, Florida and Georgia. Tough to hate him for that, even though you eventually have to win those games. 
 

Really the only one they reasonably should have been expected to win is Florida. 
The guy is starting a true freshman at QB.  And it wasn't like Georgia or LSU blew them out, either.  I can understand being frustrated with Malzahn, but my god, that schedule was brutal and they could still do the world a favor and beat Alabama.

 
It really is still the Mount Union Invitational.  Whitewater hasn't made the final since 2014, which was the last season Lance Leipold coached before moving to Buffalo.  Leipold's Whitewater teams won 6 national titles in his 8 years as head coach.  Every one of those championships was against Mount Union.  If anything, it appears Mary Hardin–Baylor (Texas) has established itself as the latest upstart challenger to the Div. III throne.

 
It really is still the Mount Union Invitational.  Whitewater hasn't made the final since 2014, which was the last season Lance Leipold coached before moving to Buffalo.  Leipold's Whitewater teams won 6 national titles in his 8 years as head coach.  Every one of those championships was against Mount Union.  If anything, it appears Mary Hardin–Baylor (Texas) has established itself as the latest upstart challenger to the Div. III throne.
I'm getting back into the D3 swing of things here.

 
WDIK2 said:
Do you think coaches can recruit on a month to month contract? Isn't it standard for most college coaches to always have a 4 to 5 year contract that gets extended to keep it at that number?  This is just a little longer.  ;)
With the new transfer rules I don't think the coach's contract is as important to players anymore. 

 
ECAC announces D3 bowl games

The Clayton Chapman Bowl Westminster College will travel to Morrisville State.
The Asa S. Bushnell Bowl will feature Washington and Jefferson traveling to Ithaca College.
The Scotty Whitelaw Bowl will feature Brevard College traveling to Carnegie Mellon University.
The James Lynah Bowl will pair RPI traveling to Grove City College, who will look to defend their 2018 James Lynah Bowl title
For one league (President's Athletic) to get bids in all four games is pretty impressive.  :bowtie:

 
@CFB_Hype: AP Top 10 opponents combined record: (games played) 

#1 LSU, 56-47

#2 Ohio State, 52-48

#3 Clemson, 57-54

#4 Georgia, 55-48

#5 Alabama, 50-54

#6 Oregon, 57-45

#7 Utah, 50-52

#8 Oklahoma, 49-52

#9 Penn State, 58-43

#10 Florida 67-46

 
In an interesting turn of events, both ESPN's College GameDay and Fox's Big Noon Kickoff will be at the Shoe this weekend for the game.  Fox will be broadcasting it.  Funny that Game Day is coming, but there is no broadcast by their networks.  I will have to wander to both and check it all out.

 
WDIK2 said:
People are talking about Fleck signaling for his QB to go down with an injury after the sack to stop the clock.  If true and you're going to pull that stunt, why the QB and not a TE or something?  Weird.
The availability of quarterback Tanner Morgan is still not known for the Gophers' football game on Saturday at Northwestern.  

Morgan has been in concussion protocol ever since he was hurt late in last weekend's loss at Iowa. 

 
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
YOU'RE ALL WRONG, #######S.  

DON'T YOU TAKE THIS FROM ME.
Still, you gotta want to keep Kevin Steele, dont you? You think a new HC will keep him and not bring in his guy? Steele is such a mystery to LSU fans. Our defense got wayyyy worse under him in his year. We laughed at Auburn for taking him off our hands. Now, we pay the most for Aranda of anyone and his defenses are getting progressively worse.

 
In an interesting turn of events, both ESPN's College GameDay and Fox's Big Noon Kickoff will be at the Shoe this weekend for the game.  Fox will be broadcasting it.  Funny that Game Day is coming, but there is no broadcast by their networks.  I will have to wander to both and check it all out.
It happens at times with the CBS game for the SEC. This year for sure.

 
I suspect Steele will actually be the HC, which I don't like at all.  I want Gus gone more than worrying about who will replace him though.   Check back in 18 months, when I will hate the new guy just as much.
Terry is rehabbing his coaching skills at Clemson right now. Give that man a second chance!

 
Now, [LSU pays] the most for Aranda of anyone and his defenses are getting progressively worse.
I am not certain why ... but doesn't it seem like in football, it's practically impossible to have an elite offense and an elite defense at the same time? I don't know if defenses (when paired with great offenses) get fatigued from having to get back on the field so much and so quickly. LSU seems to play solid defense in the first halves of games, and then let up with 3+ score leads in the second half. The Auburn game would be an exception.

LSU does seemed to get gashed for big yardage more frequently than a good college defense should. But does game context matter? If an opposing offense is doing all of its damage when down 20+ points, and never manage to cut it down to a TD or less (Bama and Auburn excepted) ... what is that opposing offense really accomplishing?

It does take away some style points, though. Given the final score, it doesn't look to casual observers that LSU really handled Alabama decisively, when in fact, LSU did for 30-something minutes of game time -- but then mentally relaxed (IMHO) and "let" a desperate Alabama team score a bunch in the second half. Similar for Ole Miss except that LSU's offense gave the defense a bigger points cushion.

 
I am not certain why ... but doesn't it seem like in football, it's practically impossible to have an elite offense and an elite defense at the same time? I don't know if defenses (when paired with great offenses) get fatigued from having to get back on the field so much and so quickly. LSU seems to play solid defense in the first halves of games, and then let up with 3+ score leads in the second half. The Auburn game would be an exception.

LSU does seemed to get gashed for big yardage more frequently than a good college defense should. But does game context matter? If an opposing offense is doing all of its damage when down 20+ points, and never manage to cut it down to a TD or less (Bama and Auburn excepted) ... what is that opposing offense really accomplishing?

It does take away some style points, though. Given the final score, it doesn't look to casual observers that LSU really handled Alabama decisively, when in fact, LSU did for 30-something minutes of game time -- but then mentally relaxed (IMHO) and "let" a desperate Alabama team score a bunch in the second half. Similar for Ole Miss except that LSU's offense gave the defense a bigger points cushion.
Mandel and Feldman were talking about this on the Audible this week. Basically exactly what you were saying, that it’s very difficult to have both an elite offense and defense, and that only Clemson and Ohio State have managed to do so. Mentioned that when Bama went towards a more open offense, their defenses quickly became less intimidating. 

 
Is there any link to the 2003 version of the BCS applied to this year anywhere? Im old and dont google so good.
Remember the Cotton and Peach were not part of the BCS then so they are excluded. Also no Big East now so I will put in highest rated group of 5. 
 

Sugar (National Title): #1 LSU vs #2 OSU

Orange: #3 Clemson (ACC) vs #17 Cincinnati 

Rose: #6 Oregon (Pac) vs #9 Penn State (BIG)

Fiesta: #8 Oklahoma vs #4 Georgia (highest at-large) 

so there ya go. Clemson gets screwed. Orange is gross  Fiesta and Rose get two great games that are completely meaningless. 

 
Tua outlook for recovery: 8 months to football.

Pete Thamel has some Bama fans all hot and bothered about coming back next year to improve draft status, but I think that's nanners... well, I guess there's a chance where he was assuredly gone before the injury. I think he still goes in the Top 10, and would say there's no chance of him dropping out of the Top 20. Not that there isn't a good reason to worry about his injuries, but someone will take a chance. 

I know Capella was probably just looking at the current rankings, but I've seen loads of people arguing Georgia at #4 in their final rankings. How in the world is that even possible? The only way they get into this thing is beating LSU in Atlanta, and probably end up ranked higher than LSU in the end. That's the only way I see the SEC getting 2 anyway. I guess they're just using current rankings too, but it's just annoying and probably an issue for me which relates to my committee hatred. I wish we would've just kept the BCS model to decide the 4 teams.

I think the Final 4 is going to end up being: LSU, OSU, Clemson, and Oklahoma.

 
Tua outlook for recovery: 8 months to football.

Pete Thamel has some Bama fans all hot and bothered about coming back next year to improve draft status, but I think that's nanners... well, I guess there's a chance where he was assuredly gone before the injury. I think he still goes in the Top 10, and would say there's no chance of him dropping out of the Top 20. Not that there isn't a good reason to worry about his injuries, but someone will take a chance. 

I know Capella was probably just looking at the current rankings, but I've seen loads of people arguing Georgia at #4 in their final rankings. How in the world is that even possible? The only way they get into this thing is beating LSU in Atlanta, and probably end up ranked higher than LSU in the end. That's the only way I see the SEC getting 2 anyway. I guess they're just using current rankings too, but it's just annoying and probably an issue for me which relates to my committee hatred. I wish we would've just kept the BCS model to decide the 4 teams.

I think the Final 4 is going to end up being: LSU, OSU, Clemson, and Oklahoma.
Are you assuming both Oregon and Utah lose another game?

 
No, he's assuming the committee will elect to go with 1 loss Oklahoma over 1 loss Utah/Oregon because they play in the Pac12.  I think most of the country believes that way. 
I don’t quite understand why Oklahoma would get the benefit of the doubt anymore. They’ve not only lost every time they’ve made the playoff, they’ve been throttled in two of those three losses. 

 
No, he's assuming the committee will elect to go with 1 loss Oklahoma over 1 loss Utah/Oregon because they play in the Pac12.  I think most of the country believes that way. 
The more I think about it if Oregon wins out they are a lock to get in.  They would be the first team in the playoff era to win 10 conference games (10-0).  Correct me if I am wrong there because I heard that earlier.  The SEC only plays 8 conference games which hurts their argument.  

Also, I think Utah is very solid and could very well beat Oregon.  Rose bowl would be a nice consolation prize if that happens.

 
I just think that's how it's going to play out. I'm not making any sort of statement on who I think has the better argument. No reason for anyone to get defensive.

 
Remember the Cotton and Peach were not part of the BCS then so they are excluded. Also no Big East now so I will put in highest rated group of 5. 
 

Sugar (National Title): #1 LSU vs #2 OSU

Orange: #3 Clemson (ACC) vs #17 Cincinnati 

Rose: #6 Oregon (Pac) vs #9 Penn State (BIG)

Fiesta: #8 Oklahoma vs #4 Georgia (highest at-large) 

so there ya go. Clemson gets screwed. Orange is gross  Fiesta and Rose get two great games that are completely meaningless. 
OSU didn't play LSU in the NC game until the 2007 season.

In the 2003 season LSU beat Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl for the title. 

 
If UGA beats LSU then the SEC will get 2 teams, IMO.
Agree. But I don't think anyone beats Ohio State this season. they have dominated every team they played including a 42-0 win against Cincinatti (their only loss). They have beaten every team by at least 24. At Michigan could be their closest game until playoffs. They have been dominant since their loss to Penn State.

 
You keep saying this, while the Committee ranks both P12 leaders multiple spots ahead of OU...trying the reverse jinx?
OU moved up a whopping 1 spot after beating Baylor...not sure how they have any chance now if both P12s win out.

 
OU moved up a whopping 1 spot after beating Baylor...not sure how they have any chance now if both P12s win out.
Well, one of UO or da Utes are going to lose.  Right now, neither one has a signature win and yet both are ahead of PSU. But, that's the nature of this here beast. If PSU wins out, things will change...or not. :shrug:

 
OU moved up a whopping 1 spot after beating Baylor...not sure how they have any chance now if both P12s win out.
Not that the current rankings matter a lick, but yeah they don't have a chance. I think Gundy beats OU this year though, Sooners have looked awful the last three games. 

Memphis or whatever in the Cotton Bowl here we come! 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Not that the current rankings matter a lick, but yeah they don't have a chance. I think Gundy beats OU this year though, Sooners have looked awful the last three games. 

Memphis or whatever in the Cotton Bowl here we come! 
Not sure OSU has the horses to keep up this year.  A Baylor rematch would be interesting, but their mental stability might be in question after what happened last week.

 
@TimBrando

If Bama and OU wind up in the Sugar Bowl, I’ve got the over/under at 8 Star players opting out to prepare for the Draft. That’s what “Who’s In” has perpetuated for the modern day internet athlete!

 
@TimBrando

If Bama and OU wind up in the Sugar Bowl, I’ve got the over/under at 8 Star players opting out to prepare for the Draft. That’s what “Who’s In” has perpetuated for the modern day internet athlete!
I think this is ultimately what will TRULY lead to playoff expansion.  These meaningless bowl games are more meaningless by the year because of this very reason.  Sponsors are going to get pissed off and pull their money and the NCAA will have no other choice BUT to expand.

 
I think this is ultimately what will TRULY lead to playoff expansion.  These meaningless bowl games are more meaningless by the year because of this very reason.  Sponsors are going to get pissed off and pull their money and the NCAA will have no other choice BUT to expand.
I was having this same discussion with some buddies the other day. The only thing that gets the NCAA to move on expansion is $$$.   People are not going to travel to bowl games if the best players are going to sit out.  Agreed that sponsors will say #### this I am not paying millions to watch the backups play.    Win/Win for the fan. 

 
I think this is ultimately what will TRULY lead to playoff expansion.  These meaningless bowl games are more meaningless by the year because of this very reason.  Sponsors are going to get pissed off and pull their money and the NCAA will have no other choice BUT to expand.
Don't disagree at all but take someone like that tackle from Iowa that is projected to go top 5-10.  Why would he be playing at all in November?  These games are meaningless too not just the non-playoff bowl games.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top