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2019 Free Agent Signing Thread (1 Viewer)

JohnnyU said:
McKinnon health + 3.75M = cut?
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Maybe but they also may want to see what he can do considering they paid him a lot up front last year and he never played a down. Considering Coleman and Breida  have manageable contracts, it may be a luxury they can afford.

 
Considering the string injuries at RB the 49ers had last year, I doubt any of the three get cut.  Brieda has not shown the ability to stay healthy, as good as he's looked. 

It's probably the dreaded 3 headed monster until one of them gets hurt again. 

 
zamboni said:
Considering Coleman and Breida  have manageable contracts, it may be a luxury they can afford.
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Also Breida is on last year of his contract so maybe they are thinking they'll just roster all 3 this year, all of them are cheap, two dealt with injuries last year, attrition likely works things out most week and after 2019 season they can reassess what they want to do going forward but would know they got two RB's under contract.

The biggest reason I can give for not wanting to keep McKinnon is that if all are healthy one of them is probably not going to be active because they only activate 3 RB's and one plays special teams which is the Mostert role and even he ran for over 7 yards a carry.

I think all in all we just don't know yet but the wave rushing in to think McKinnon was out seemed a bit overwhelming. I'm just speculating, might be wrong, but right now tend to think they keep all 3.

 
One thing that LeVeon Bell said his hold-out would produce, a new compensation level for running backs was not accomplished.

1. Bell 4-yrs $52.5M with $35M

2. Ingram 3-yrs $15M

3. Coleman 2-yrs $10M

4. Peterson 2-yrs $8M

 
menobrown said:
Also Breida is on last year of his contract so maybe they are thinking they'll just roster all 3 this year, all of them are cheap, two dealt with injuries last year, attrition likely works things out most week and after 2019 season they can reassess what they want to do going forward but would know they got two RB's under contract.

The biggest reason I can give for not wanting to keep McKinnon is that if all are healthy one of them is probably not going to be active because they only activate 3 RB's and one plays special teams which is the Mostert role and even he ran for over 7 yards a carry.

I think all in all we just don't know yet but the wave rushing in to think McKinnon was out seemed a bit overwhelming. I'm just speculating, might be wrong, but right now tend to think they keep all 3.
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Good points, especially on the injuries. Considering McKinnon was out all year and Breida was in and out all year, keeping all three (or 4 with Mostert) can hedge the position risk.

 
Count me among those that don't think McKinnon will get cut.  They were down to Mostert/Wilson last year and I think they just want to avoid that kind of situation again, not to mention Shanny's preference for using multiple backs. 

Like Meno said, they gain only liquid cash in cutting McKinnon, it doesn't help them out against the cap at all.

 
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Pretty sound logic on keeping all 3 by menobrown. I will say this, though... about 4 days ago I was reading about how the Chiefs wouldn't cut Eric Berry b/c it wasn't saving much money based on the contract, dead money, cap hit, etc. Today he was released. It would't surprise me at all if the same happened to McKinnon. 3.5 million in this season's budget can be a solid signing bonus to secure a decent player. 

 
When a team is thinking about whether to cut a player, the important number is the amount of new money that the player is owed this year. That was $9.5M for Berry and it's $3.75M for McKinnon.

Cap hit is pretty much irrelevant because it's just about shuffling cap money between different years. If $4M that was going to count against the 2020 cap instead counts against the 2019 cap, that doesn't matter much (except in rare occasions).

 
kittenmittens said:
Considering the string injuries at RB the 49ers had last year, I doubt any of the three get cut.  Brieda has not shown the ability to stay healthy, as good as he's looked. 

It's probably the dreaded 3 headed monster until one of them gets hurt again. 
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Which will happen around Week 4.

 
I thought McKinnon's ACL tear was considered quite minor (other than the loss of season due to surgery and recovery), and that he was rehabbing very well. I really don't think they want Breida to be the main guy, and Coleman *could* slide right back into his Coleman role under Shanny in Atlanta. I'm not totally scared off of McKinnon from this. Not super stoked either, but I still expect McKinnon to at least get the opportunity to be their RB1. I think they will want to see what they have with him. 

 
barackdhouse said:
I thought McKinnon's ACL tear was considered quite minor (other than the loss of season due to surgery and recovery), and that he was rehabbing very well. I really don't think they want Breida to be the main guy, and Coleman *could* slide right back into his Coleman role under Shanny in Atlanta. I'm not totally scared off of McKinnon from this. Not super stoked either, but I still expect McKinnon to at least get the opportunity to be their RB1. I think they will want to see what they have with him. 
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Personally, I think Coleman is the least talented of the 3, of course he's also the most durable of the 3, so we'll see.

 
Stephen Holloway said:
One thing that LeVeon Bell said his hold-out would produce, a new compensation level for running backs was not accomplished.

1. Bell 4-yrs $52.5M with $35M

2. Ingram 3-yrs $15M

3. Coleman 2-yrs $10M

4. Peterson 2-yrs $8M
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Bell got more guaranteed money than DJ or Gurley, according to my quick search.  Sounds like that qualifies as setting a new bar.

 
barackdhouse said:
I thought McKinnon's ACL tear was considered quite minor (other than the loss of season due to surgery and recovery), and that he was rehabbing very well. I really don't think they want Breida to be the main guy, and Coleman *could* slide right back into his Coleman role under Shanny in Atlanta. I'm not totally scared off of McKinnon from this. Not super stoked either, but I still expect McKinnon to at least get the opportunity to be their RB1. I think they will want to see what they have with him. 
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It's OK to dream but I sure wouldn't try to obtain him.

 
JohnnyU said:
It's OK to dream but I sure wouldn't try to obtain him.
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I'll admit it is wishful thinking, and unless someone wants to give him for super cheap I'd agree. But honestly, is it far fetched to think he is going to get his chance? I'm obviously assuming they don't move or cut him now that Coleman came in.

 
barackdhouse said:
I'll admit it is wishful thinking, and unless someone wants to give him for super cheap I'd agree. But honestly, is it far fetched to think he is going to get his chance? I'm obviously assuming they don't move or cut him now that Coleman came in.
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I mean, its very possible McKinnon gets first crack. When in doubt, follow the money, and he's got the biggest contract.

 
barackdhouse said:
I'll admit it is wishful thinking, and unless someone wants to give him for super cheap I'd agree. But honestly, is it far fetched to think he is going to get his chance? I'm obviously assuming they don't move or cut him now that Coleman came in.
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anything is possible but Breida played phenomenal.  There is no way he isn't touching the ball 10x per game, and there is no way they aren't going to play coleman at least a handful of snaps.  McKinnon, if he stays on the team, has zero value unless you are hedging your bets everyone gets injured

 
tangfoot said:
Bell got more guaranteed money than DJ or Gurley, according to my quick search.  Sounds like that qualifies as setting a new bar.
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Agreed on Bell getting his, but early on in this process he said he was raising the bar for running backs in general.

Lesser wide receivers are getting significantly more per year contracts. Seems more of a difference this year to me. 

 
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Breaking: Golden Tate expected to finalize deal with #Patriots. 

As I reported Sunday, he met with #Steelers and they we’re back up option but chose New England. #Cowboys also showed some interest.

 
Tate to NE would be great. Definitely in need of a pass catching threat with Gronk fading fast and only Edelman worth a damn on the roster. Slater is listed as the WR2 on the teams website right now. Poor Dorsett... not even listed. lol

 
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Flying Elvis said:
Tate to NE would be great. Definitely in need of a pass catching threat with Gronk fading fast and only Edelman worth a damn on the roster. Slater is listed as the WR2 on the teams website right now. lol
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They resigned dorsett and are keeping josh gordons seat warm....but edelman n tate seem to have a similar skill set...its a set that bb n brady like

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
They resigned dorsett and are keeping josh gordons seat warm....but edelman n tate seem to have a similar skill set...its a set that bb n brady like
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Yeah, I hit that with a ninja edit. Dorsett is signed but doesn't appear on the team page. Agree that Tate & Julian have similar skills but Brady's deep ball is mediocre so extra underneath routes is likely the recipe for success, anyway.

 
The #Bears are signing S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix to a 1-year deal, sources tell me and @MikeGarafolo. Formerly of the #Redskins and #Packers, he gets a new home in Chicago.

 
Source: The #Saints are signing DT Malcom Brown to a 3-year deal worth $15M. The former #Patriots first-rounder has a new home, while New Orleans adds a big piece.

 
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 57s57 seconds ago

Former Eagles' WR Golden Tate is signing with the NY Giants, per source.

 
he would have been a solid addition to the patriots...why the giants bring in aging wr is beyond comprehension

 
At what point does Ian Rapoport just give up?  :lmao:

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Panthers are in "no rush" to make a decision on LT Matt Kalil's roster status.

Dave Gettleman's disastrous 2017 free agent signing's $7 million salary becomes "guaranteed" on Friday but for injury only. In other words, the Panthers can still cut him once he passes a physical. Kalil was one of the league's very worst left tackles in 2017 before missing all of 2018 with a mysterious knee issue. With Taylor Moton and Daryl Williams ready to man tackle, Kalil will likely be sent packing.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Mar 14, 2019, 1:17 PM

Panthers released OT Matt Kalil.

It's a post-June 1 designation, which creates $7.25 million in cap space. It was a necessary, expected move after Kalil missed 2018 with an unexplained knee issue. The injury washout came on the heels of a truly dreadful 2017 where Kalil's play regressed even further, and he was one of the worst tackles in the league. Kalil's 2017 signing was an abject disaster for ex-GM Dave Gettleman. The Panthers will be moving forward with Taylor Moton and Daryl Williams at tackle. Four months shy of his 30th birthday, Kalil is in danger of washing out of the league.

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SOURCE: Jourdan Rodrigue on Twitter

Mar 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

 
bostonfred said:
Maybe i wasn't clear. 

Part of the value brown brings is that he could help carr get back on track. 

But if he doesn't get carr back on track, then the raiders will use their picks to get a new quarterback, because if Antonio Brown and Tyrell Williams weren't enough to get Carr back to good, then it ain't happening. And it's better to find that out while you have two 2020 firsts than when you don't.  

I agree that a rebuild usually takes several years.  But very few rebuilding teams have ever had 5 firsts and a very early second in two years to play with.  That's a big talent infusion at a very low cap hit.  And that is why they can get the top free agents they're adding. They're going to have two pro bowlers trent brown and rodney Hudson on the o line, carr, brown and tyrell for the passing game, and joyner and 4 picks in the top 36 of a defensive draft that's unusually deep with pass rushers.  Plus about 30 million available for more veterans this year, and two more firsts next year. That's a lot of talent. You're right that it might not be enough but i don't think the browns perpetual rebuild has ever been considered the shining example of the right way to do it. 
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I agree.  Another thing to consider is that this year is not exactly the year to be breaking the bank for a QB, there just aren't any overwhelming prospects that I'd be busting my ### to get.  If you do finally give him some targets and protect him you get to see exactly what you have and if you end up having to get a new QB you are not setting him up for failure by having a bunch of crappy skill position players around him.  The last thing they are going to do in that division is win 7 or 8 games.  They will be lucky to win a game in their division and also play Tennesee, Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, Indy, and Houston that look like definite losses.  The easiest games on their schedule are Detroit, Cincinati, Jacksonville, and the Jets, all of which are even to difficult matchups for them.  I'd guess them at somewhere around 4-5 wins next year maximum unless Carr really steps up this year, in which case they wouldn't need the early pick to draft a QB. 

 
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