Calling out trolls. A few people in here claim to be neutral, but spend most of their time bashing Ben. Anyone who defends him is instantly the problem, yet they can't help themselves from talking about him.This literally made me laugh out loud. What are we even doing in here?
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2020-21 NBA *Playoffs* Thread: Bucks are the champs and you can take that to the bank bromigos (2 Viewers)
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Moe.
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
it will be a little tricky. Total guess, but i imagine they really try to let him rest for Games 1 and 2, and try to bring him back for game 3. I think they would be happy with a 1-1 split, though they can probably win both at home. Team has a killer home record, something like 135-38 since Embiid and Simmons have been playing together
modogg
Footballguy
hah you beat me to it. I would put a ton of money that he would destroy me in a FT contest.
was funny i listened to a few pods throughout the day, and 2 of them said the exact same idea that they could all beat Ben in a FT contest. Something tells me there is a pretty huge difference shooting a FT with 10,000 people screaming at you, knowing you need to start hitting some of these and shooting FTs at local rec center
Frostillicus
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
just went out in the driveway and canned 4 out of 10
feeling pretty confident i can bump that up to 5 with time
mr. furley
Footballguy
Utah with 30
5:40 to go in the 1st
5:40 to go in the 1st
modogg
Footballguy
i don't know what it is, but i just have such a hard time viewing them as legit challengers for the championship. Could very well be wrong, i just can't see them just convincingly win against 7-8 of the top teams, 4 out of 7 games
mr. furley
Footballguy
yeah, i have that same kind of feeling that they aren't legitimately contenders. they are waxing Memphis right now, though.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Exactly. I shot in the mid 80s when I played, but in a full NBA stadium with 7 foot dudes beside me, I think I would be lucky to hit 1 of 10.
Small sample size. Could you hit 6-10 long term in a full stadium with big dudes beside you?I could go better than 0-10 left handed.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
i can't remember who said it, but i heard that Russ is a legit tough one when shooting FTs. i don't know if he mean mugs or what he does, but somebody was saying how he effected players more then most.
Would be a fun little article for the unimaginative sports writers out there to talk about. TimeLord has a funny one when he looks away and snaps his fingers when guys are shooting FTs.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Hawks playing with house money now. A good showing would be to make it go 6.
modogg
Footballguy
was a funny little thing after the game between Ben and Embiid. said something all secretive and Embiid gave a pretty big smile. My guess was it was something with Ben saying he will get them past Washington, and Embiid should be paying in the Atlanta series.
No way Embiid sits out there and shoots before the game if he isn't playing next series. Just wonder how much it will limit him and if it can get to a point where he will miss time if he tweaks it a certain way when he plays.
Sixers' fans will be on pins and needles watching him play for the rest of this playoff run. Will be like watching the Eagles in the Super Bowl, was so nervous the whole game it was almost unenjoyable. Loved it completely, but wasn't relaxing or fun at the time
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Ya, still pressure. You think you could hit 6 for 10 if you had to run and get put on the line in a full stadium?
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Ya, I don't think you could.
And before someone makes the straw man argument that I think Ben is a good free throw shooter or doesn't need to improve, I know Ben's FT shooting is an issue.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Rank these two players:
1. Kelly Oubre
2. Ben Simmons
1. Kelly Oubre
2. Ben Simmons
modogg
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
What’s not to like. 3 all-stars, 6th man of the year, lots of depth, Gobert an excellent defensive player. I think they win the west.
modogg
Footballguy
yeah, no doubt they win a bunch of awards, i'm just not sold. Granted i don't watch a ton of them with them in the West, but i just for whatever reason am not worried about that team at all.
Maybe it is because they are a bit of a 1-trick poney. Just fire up 40+ 3's and if they are hitting you win, if they are a bit cold you lose.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Fwiw, I played in college and have coached for 25 years but that's beside the point. Most awful shooters are better from the stripe than he is.
modogg
Footballguy
5/8 tonight
. Rather than saying he is bad, i would go with "inconsistent". To be honest, i think it is kind of obvious that it isn't that he can't shoot FTs or even that he can't shoot 3s or jumpers. It is some kind of mental block or something that he has been improving a bit each year, but we all agree he has a way to go. i think i have said this like 20 times in this thread, but i would rather have Ben on a team then like 5 real good shooters. you need different pieces to make the team work. Ben's passing is under-rated and his court vision is really pretty high compared to mose PGs around the league
Frostillicus
Footballguy
I played and coached at that level too, but probably not for near as long as you. I'm not questioning your knowledge, nor did I say that Ben was good. Only was disagreeing with the post that every single poster in here could hit 6 for 10 consistently.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
5/8 isn't very good either5/8 tonight
Frostillicus
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
agreed, not very good. but hell of a lot better than 0-6, or the 0-11 streak he started the playoffs with.
happy that he has been getting better
Not very good, nope.
I was curious about the correlation between height and FT percentage. Found this chart. Seems like 6'10" people should be shooting 70%. Ben's 60% is definitely not good and is definitely not acceptable (I feel the need to keep making this clear), but if he even improves it 5%, he'll not be far off the average for his height.
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Again with the straw man hey?
Never once said he was good. Just said YOU couldn't hit 6/10 when you're tired and have big dudes around you and 10 000 fans screaming.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
It is. I never once said Ben was good. I said that tall NBA dudes beside you would be hard for normal people like us. Not that it should be for Ben.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
I was the only one who mentioned tall dudes standing beside you, so I believe he was insinuating that someone mentioned big dudes beside you as an excuse for Ben. But I used it only as a reason why it would be hard for us. So yes, textbook strawman
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
It might be for you, but I don't think most normal people would have an issue with it. Has to be one of the most laughable arguments I've seen in this thread to be honest.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
CALM DOWN
I believe the pressure of 5 famous NBA players staring at you while you shoot free throws would affect SOME of the posters on this board. Guess we don't agree on that, that's cool.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Clips gifting a 2-for-1 with the loose ball foul.
