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2020-21 NBA *Playoffs* Thread: Bucks are the champs and you can take that to the bank bromigos (3 Viewers)
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Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
No way dude. To anyone that follows it, this year's team will stick out regardless. Even the non-fans that look at a list will go, wait a minute, what happened that year?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
As much as I was enjoying making fun of Chris Paul, I think the Suns are who I am pulling for without Giannis.
identikit
Footballguy
whoknew
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FairWarning
Footballguy
How do these guys get hurt? All they do is stand around the arc.
jhib
Footballguy
If I thought he did it on purpose, then I probably wouldn't have even thought I was being a bit harsh.
But lots of times fouls are unintentional, and I thought that should have been one for undercutting Kyrie (so did Jalen Rose, who was calling for a fragrant, I believe). If it was a foul and the other guy gets hurt due to the foul (intentionally or not), I consider that the cause of the injury.
But I understand others think it was rightly not called.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Trae, Collins, Huerter, Hunter, Okungwu, Reddish is nice young nucleus The Hawks front office has done a really nice job drafting the last several years. Bogdanovic is 28, Capela 27. Two great acquisitions. Some good veteran leadership with Lou and Gallinari.
They are 6 wins away from a title (I literally can't believe I just typed that) but it still doesn't feel like they are that close to being a championship caliber team. Lots of bad luck to other teams to get us here (Embiid and Giannis injuries just can't be dismissed). And this series with MIL is far from over - who knows what happens with Giannis/Trae and MIL still has 2 home games - could go either way right now.
I'm not sure what changes they need to make or if they right thing to do is just let the roster grow together. My gut tells me that nucleus would never be quite good enough to be a champion but maybe one of those guys take a leap - Trae certainly elevated him game the last month. But in the NBA you usually need either a transcendent star plus another all-star or now with these super teams usually 2-3 top-level guys to win. This year may be the exception for a while.
identikit
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
First if was Aaron Rodgers's calf in 2016 (and now his bruised lady parts). Then it was Yelich busting his kneecap when Brewers were contending in 2019. And now Giannis.
Next I fully expect a rash of injuries to a few of the Brewers' lights-out pitchers.
We're seriously cursed as Wisconsin sports fans. What the actual eff.
Next I fully expect a rash of injuries to a few of the Brewers' lights-out pitchers.
We're seriously cursed as Wisconsin sports fans. What the actual eff.
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gruecd
Footballguy
Not the way I wanted to lose this bet. What a bunch of horse####.
Sports is so unhealthy. We give so much energy to something we have zero control over, let it affect our entire mood.
identikit
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gruecd
Footballguy
I just feel completely defeated. I'm sure Giannis has had his scan by now. Just waiting for the death knell at this point...
identikit
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Giannis or not, the Bucks were in a dogfight they shouldn't have been in last night. Coach Bud looked lost again and the Hawks may have scrapped their way to a win even if Giannis played the whole game. They came out with energy to start the 2nd half that SHOULD have been there the entire game.
I'm so tired of playoff teams coming out flat in big games. For Pete's sake, it is what you've worked your whole life for. Drink some freaking caffeine or something and play hard from the tip.
I'm so tired of playoff teams coming out flat in big games. For Pete's sake, it is what you've worked your whole life for. Drink some freaking caffeine or something and play hard from the tip.
gruecd
Footballguy
It's over. Even if they could regroup and win a couple of home games against the Hawks without him, and even if he was able to somehow come back for the Finals, his game just isn't conducive to playing with a weak knee. It's not like Embiid where he can actually stand outside and hit 15-footers with some regularity.
gruecd
Footballguy
Maybe that's the one positive from all this. If they lose to the Hawks, they might actually fire Bud.
identikit
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yep - I think the idea that it is over (at least in this series) for either team is premature. We don't know what will happen with Trae and Giannis. The Hawks showed last night guys can step up without the star. Sure, you can say the Bucks didn't play great but I think the Hawks had a few guys step up. None of these 4 teams left were world beaters before and 3 of the 4 are missing their best player. Booker has a busted face. As we saw last night, we are one twisted ankle or knee from any of these 4 winning the whole thing.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
I get why teams don't press or push the pace the whole game as it just isn't sustainable for 48 minutes, but closing out hard, rotating, anticipating passes, boxing out, doubling and recovering quickly should be the default mode on defense in the playoffs. I get being flat and not hustling during game 50 in March, but this is the playoffs and all of these series are close.
mr. furley
Footballguy
saw a tweet this morning that said "sources inside the organization" think Giannis has a "severely torn ACL".
could be the assistant to the traveling secretary reporting Giannis as mostly dead but...... yikes
could be the assistant to the traveling secretary reporting Giannis as mostly dead but...... yikes
need2know
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
I wouldn't be shocked if he does have serious ligament damage, but the whore reporter who tweeted that is a Clippers beat reporter. I highly doubt that he has sources within the Bucks organization.
Capella
Footballguy
caustic
Footballguy
So here's the tweet (it's from last night):
Farbod Esnaashari @Farbod_E
Sources: People within the Milwaukee Bucks organization fear that Giannis Antetokounmpo has suffered a severe ACL injury. However, no MRI has been done yet.
10:32 PM · Jun 29, 2021
May very well have torn it, but I feel like anyone could've tweeted this as soon as they saw the injury happen -- of course everyone is fearing ligament damage after seeing how his knee bent.
Farbod Esnaashari @Farbod_E
Sources: People within the Milwaukee Bucks organization fear that Giannis Antetokounmpo has suffered a severe ACL injury. However, no MRI has been done yet.
10:32 PM · Jun 29, 2021
May very well have torn it, but I feel like anyone could've tweeted this as soon as they saw the injury happen -- of course everyone is fearing ligament damage after seeing how his knee bent.
gruecd
Footballguy
That's the dude I was referencing. "NBA credentialed writer covering the @laclippers."
While he might not be wrong, this is pure speculation. I'm sure everyone within the Bucks organization fears that.
gruecd
Footballguy
Highly unlikely. Bucks owe this dude like a quarter billion dollars guaranteed. No way they're risking his long-term health.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
i tellya & tellya & tellya, it's rep or swag or whatever you wanna call it. it began with load mgmt and putting offensive loadbearers on easy defensive assignments and letting superstars ignore huddles. everybody else in the game started looking for markers like that to hang their brand on, indulgences counting more than assignments. the pecking order has become based upon what they cant make you do no more, and the culture has rotted accordingly. never mind that coach cant call you in and you have to look him in the eye, do what he says or sit until St Swithin's Day. now, if you pay him heed at all, you're one played #####. occasionally coaches can make winning sound like a good idea for a period of time, but there's no clear path to consistency, to the shots, stops & steals the game is based on. that's why i stopped watching a coupla weeks ago.
identikit
Footballguy
The Nets could rest their big 3 the final month of the season and win the title easily TTTTBB.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Another injury, that had no association with the NBA schedule and what Lebron was talking about.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Reminds me about how it felt the times Marcus Lattimore's knee got blown out. Ruined the chances at a title and the second time you just knew it was going to be over...
I don't think it is over for Giannis, but not sure the Bucks are going to get a better crack at it than this was.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I honestly don't think it is torn. The way he was walking around on it immediately afterward seems to be a good sign. He could put weight on it and wasn't really limping much.
I do think it is a hyperextension and he'll miss time.
Sincerely,
Dr. Jayrod
gruecd
Footballguy
Not over for Giannis, but this isn't the first time he's had problems with that knee. Then consider the way he plays and the amount of torque it puts on his lower body. Man....
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gruecd
Footballguy
Klay Thompson did the same thing. Got up and shot a couple of free throws and then walked off the court. From everything I've read, the ability to walk afterwards doesn't mean anything.
identikit
Footballguy
Being able to walk on it is actually a BAD sign. You can easily walk on a torn acl and often without a limp. More so than if it's hyperextended or bruised which would cause you to limp even more.
I think it's an ACL.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
It's the direction for me. Straight back is "better" than lateral. However it always looks worse that way. Obviously, it's how far back it went. ACLs are more lateral, that's what makes me think he'll be back. It's scary to look at or go through at first, but he could be alright.
And yes, walking doesn't mean that much after, but it's better than not being able to walk -- then you know it's a noodle (shredded).
I'm betting he comes back, we'll see.
And yes, walking doesn't mean that much after, but it's better than not being able to walk -- then you know it's a noodle (shredded).
I'm betting he comes back, we'll see.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
That's a blanket statement and untrue. There are shredded ACL's where you get up and it buckles on you. Definitely not all the same. I also don't get the walking being a BAD sign, at all.
