msudaisy26
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This no one respects or talks about us card that a lot of fan bases are playing is getting tiresome.
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2021-22 NBA Thread: Bill Simmons furiously recording 2.5 hour long pod about how Boston is still better than Golden State (1 Viewer)
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This no one respects or talks about us card that a lot of fan bases are playing is getting tiresome.
msudaisy26
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So Victor Oladipo is starting and dominating. If this is 2017 someone send me a sign.
CletiusMaximus
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I don't understand this reference, even being familiar with the story, but am giving the comment a heart because it sounds cool and is probably clever in a way that escapes me atm.
Frostillicus
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gosh darn offensive rebounds.
Frostillicus
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Ja vs. Ant could be a fun decade, at least I'm hoping. Ja is already there. Hoping Ant takes that same leap next season.
Capella
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Frostillicus
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Ant giveth and Ant taketh away.
Frostillicus
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Poop.
Frostillicus
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Capella
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Frostillicus
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Yeah, Towns did a shush to the crowd when he hit a 3 to go up like, 13 with 9 minutes left or something stupid like that too. They aren't a smart team right now. They're talented, play hard, and play well together, hoping next season they get smarter.
identikit
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Jayrod
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Watching the game, I'd say that about both teams. They both play "young"; lots of effort and athleticism coupled with bad decisions and silly mistakes.
Don't think either team can beat Golden State, but hope I'm wrong.
Instinctive
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Frostillicus
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Yep. Young and dominately athletic gonna be young and dumb. I understand what he was trying to do and if it had worked you're in OT. Even though it didn't work Ja had to make a pretty tough shot against 9 foot wingspan Jarred Vanderbilt. Fun game. Wish it had ended differently.
Frostillicus
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Major
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Fun game indeed. Loved the execution of the bounce pass and 3 by Edwards to tie it. Was hoping for OT but yeah, lack of leadership definitely hurts the Wolves late. Morant is something else.
>>Oladipo: "A year ago today, I was waiting for my next surgery. I was sitting in a dark room by myself and just broke down, not because I quit, but because I was at the lowest point I could be at. Now God has put me in this position today. I made the most of it."<<
https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1519147785546784769?t=H7yAMpiEXcPx7L5q5pTh8g&s=19
Assuming Butler and Lowry come back, the Heat bench is Oladipo, Herro, Robinson, Martin, Dedmon.
Frostillicus
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It will be interesting to see what the Wolves do with DLo. His deal expires after next season and even though he's definitely not a max player he may be for the Wolves. He had a really good year and, shockingly, has become the defensive QB for this team. He's one of the few high BBIQ players they have (outside of his shot selection). Assuming KAT is offered and accepts his super max and Ant is offered and accepts his max rookie extention that's a big outlay.
As a non desirable NBA destination (hoping the KAT ANT combo can change that), it would be prudent to overpay to keep players when you can if they're worth it. He's also KAT's bestie. And not giving him $30 million doesn't mean you get to spend that on free agents, but in this case maybe it's worth getting rid of him to spend that on Vanderbilt, McDaniels, Naz, and Nowell.
It really underscores how important it is to win when you can. This group has a ton of potential, but the financials may be as such that they won't be able to reach it. In any case, next year when KAT is on a Max and Not Super Max, ANT is on his rookie deal, DLo is still here, and the depth/bench is affordable (the only guys no longer under contract next year are Prince, Layman, and Okogie) is a HUGE year for this franchise.
As a non desirable NBA destination (hoping the KAT ANT combo can change that), it would be prudent to overpay to keep players when you can if they're worth it. He's also KAT's bestie. And not giving him $30 million doesn't mean you get to spend that on free agents, but in this case maybe it's worth getting rid of him to spend that on Vanderbilt, McDaniels, Naz, and Nowell.
It really underscores how important it is to win when you can. This group has a ton of potential, but the financials may be as such that they won't be able to reach it. In any case, next year when KAT is on a Max and Not Super Max, ANT is on his rookie deal, DLo is still here, and the depth/bench is affordable (the only guys no longer under contract next year are Prince, Layman, and Okogie) is a HUGE year for this franchise.
Craig_MiamiFL
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Bridges 
A clinic on both ends tonight.
Campaign
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Finally some production from the supporting players
A clinic on both ends tonight.Campaign
Cam Johnson
Finally some production from the supporting players
msudaisy26
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Not at all. That Dallas team had better players, a better coach and loads of experience. All the core guys had been to the finals before or to the conference finals for the most part.
gruecd
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who appreciated the level of difficulty on that assist. That pass was something else.
offdee
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Milwaukee Bucks:
- Hit the draft jackpot with Giannis (and he actually decided to STAY and SIGN long term in a small market)
- Draft steal in Middleton
- Jrue Holiday comes to town to join in the fun
- Bobby Portis takes lesser money to stay because he wants to continue winning and he gets all the fan love he could ever want
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Nathan R. Jessep
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For sure! Bridges couldn't miss. He kilt us. When we weren't killin' ourselves.Bridges
Campaign
Cam Johnson
Finally some production from the supporting players
Unfortunately I stayed awake for this one. Frustrating to watch. We just didn't have the extra zing. Had a bad feeling when NOBODY was making their easy shots early. Still battled back and were within 7 in the final minutes before the few trash time buckets at the very end. Loved the boos for Alvarado every time he touched the ball. He's in their headspace. 
CJ was cold. BI was cold. JV was meh. I was hoping they might get Trey Murphy going from the 3 point line. But alas. Back to the Blender tomorrow. I expect it to be a dogfight. 
Nathan R. Jessep
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Also glad I got to see the Grizz/Twolves ending before they switched to our game. Great finish.
Toby2ElectricBugaloo
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It's an old "careful what you wish for" short story. I was referring to the fact that as soon as you asked for more media attention on the Heat Butler's injury news came out.
CletiusMaximus
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gruecd
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wikkidpissah
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OK, i've watched 3-4 games of the the Grizz/Wolves series and i have yet to see a single player's performance appear to be shaped, framed, edited or enhanced by coaching. beyond the total pickup nature of the play, the inability to rein in KAT (at least get him his plays on O, so you can call him in on his excesses/lapses/totally insufficient humanity), and never get him or Ant a shot that is a function of purposeful ball/body movement; on the other side, JJJ dont have as much offensive skills as defensive, but he does have some - why then is it possible to assert that he and Ja have yet to be introduced?
which leads me to my HOT TAKE OF THE DAY: if i'm forming a team, i take Ant ahead of Ja. Ja put on that bravura performance in the last few minutes because his performance in the 1st 40 made it necessary. beautiful skills (cept i dont like the stroke or vision), always gonna be an ungovernable sum##### a la Iverson/Irving. Edwards, on the other hand - perfect bod, stroke, hops, sub par court vision but he's never gonna be up top anyway, but above all humility, eagerness. Nobody's teaching him the game he appears to want to play as the closest effigy of LeBron James that this game currently has. nufced
which leads me to my HOT TAKE OF THE DAY: if i'm forming a team, i take Ant ahead of Ja. Ja put on that bravura performance in the last few minutes because his performance in the 1st 40 made it necessary. beautiful skills (cept i dont like the stroke or vision), always gonna be an ungovernable sum##### a la Iverson/Irving. Edwards, on the other hand - perfect bod, stroke, hops, sub par court vision but he's never gonna be up top anyway, but above all humility, eagerness. Nobody's teaching him the game he appears to want to play as the closest effigy of LeBron James that this game currently has. nufced
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Jayrod
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This.
This matchup is a series of running up and down trying to out-highlight the opponent. If either team had an ounce of discipline and structure, they'd be in the 2nd round by now.
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wikkidpissah
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beyond adjusting for the fact that Morant gets to do almost everything he wants to do and Edwards gets less than half of that, and that metrics guys generally disagree with me and i dont understand them well enough to argue and empirically know my evals play out better, i wish i could find a bet that would put some career spotlight on our disagreement. ASG appearances wont work because Ja will naturally get more attention. I believe Ant is far more likely to be on a championship team than Ja but he'll need a coach and there are currently about 8 of those, so who knows? if you think of others, lemme know. i been taking stats guys' money (for charity, of course) for decades.
Capella
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Can’t you guys just enjoy fun basketball? If you want structure watch the Celtics or some college team like Vermont. I’ll take Ja and Ant dunking on dudes and Beverly making the too small motion right before Ja scores 13 in a row.
General Malaise
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For sure! Bridges couldn't miss. He kilt us. When we weren't killin' ourselves.
You don't say....
Nathan R. Jessep
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wikkidpissah
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in season, i'm down. at playoff time, convert those chops into win shares or youre just a guy jerkin' off on the subway.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Unfortunately, their efficiency has led to a lull in activity, so I'm stuck watching the dreck that is Memphis/Minnesota for a week.
ETA: I mean, heck, sometimes we have to watch Independence Day or Predator Vs. Alien...it can't all be The Godfather.
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msudaisy26
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Middleton was drafted by the Pistons and played for them for a year before being traded to the Bucks.
Jrue was traded as well. It was a massive gamble that paid off, but the Bucks paid a lot to get him.
General Malaise
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You'll enjoy him, mostly, but he's going to drive you crazy in spurts. He isn't the most consistent guy in the world and I play better defense than he does, but he'll have moments of pure greatness where he can't miss......No you can't have him back!
......until the next quarter starts.
Still reeling from the fact that Portland got literally NOTHING back for him. Neat trade.
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