OC Zed
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It feels like FBGs doesn't want us to commingle with the general population anymore to avoid brining everyone else down.
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2021 Buffalo Bills - Same as it ever was*** (2 Viewers)
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Through 2 possessions, it feels like the Bills have a better chance of scoring when they're on defense.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Buffalo has the top rushing offense in the league. So of course they called 6 straight passing plays to start the game for a total of zero yards.
When does Roman start to get some heat for his inexplicable playcalling?
When does Roman start to get some heat for his inexplicable playcalling?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Coming out of the tunnel during player announcements, the 4 starting Dlinemen all waited for each other huddled and then walked in together.
They knew it would be the last game as a unit, with Mario out the door. And they played like they were on fire.
I would have liked to see that effort for 16 games :(
They knew it would be the last game as a unit, with Mario out the door. And they played like they were on fire.
I would have liked to see that effort for 16 games :(
Gandalf
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I think they've done that entrance for at least 1-2 other games this season as well. I know they've done that at least once.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Surprised with the result; I'll give em credit for showing up today.
Mario Butler pretty much put the Steelers in the playoffs.
Mario Butler pretty much put the Steelers in the playoffs.
OC Zed
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I suspect a lot of people will blame Thompkins for the drop but it was a tremendous play on the ball by Butler. Really great play.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I'm still strongly of the opinion that we need to extend Taylor asap. He's not Aaron Rodgers, but at no point this season did he look like anything other than a solid NFL starter. Also lots of credit to him for dragging Mills out of a scrum and ordering his ### back to the huddle. His game has improved as the season went on, and he seems to have grown into a leader too.
This season was hugely disappointing but I do think we finally found our QB.
This season was hugely disappointing but I do think we finally found our QB.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
100% agree on Taylor. Sign him up for a reasonable extension now. Get a later round mobile project QB to push EJ.
Yep, that's part of it- drafting #19 now. I think the season in general was just "ugh" though.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I honestly don't know what market salary is for QBs right now, so I don't know how to answer that question. I'm happy if we get him for median-starting-qb-in-the-league money. That's a steal and probably isn't too far from doable if we act now.
That is from this article, which was posted earlier in the thread. They calculate his "value" at 4 years, $82.77 mil.
Contracts (especially for QBs) are kind of tough to gauge since there are often huge differences between the cash paid, guarantees, and cap hit for the year (and they are often re-worked before the end of it), but Spotrac lists the 16th highest "average" QB salary for next year at $17 mil.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
So pay the guy. At some point you have to be willing to pay your starting QB starting QB money.
Or hey, maybe Fitzpatrick will be available in the offseason and we can roll with him instead.
Or hey, maybe Fitzpatrick will be available in the offseason and we can roll with him instead.
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It's pretty easy to say "pay the guy" when you don't even think about what the number would be never mind what it means. It's the same reason people are ecstatic over the Shady trade- IMO you aren't fully appreciating the financial aspect of things and how it can impact the rest of the roster.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
How long have we been flopping around without a QB. When you think you have one, you sign him. If you think Taylor isn't a starter, then that's one thing -- we just disagree on talent assessment, but I don't claim to have any expertise here. But all teams pay their QBs if they want to keep them around. That's a non-negotiable part of running an NFL franchise.
Edit: Do you want to let Taylor walk in 2017? Because that's the most realistic alternative to extending him in the offseason.
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How did that work out when they signed Fitzpatrick?
It's not that I think Taylor isn't a starter, but I'm not sure yet how good he is. It's such a small sample size- there's no way I'd pay him $20 mil per year right now, especially when he's under contract for another year for dirt cheap. Like I said, if he's willing to take a Nick Foles type deal, I'm all for it. If not, let him play out the year before committing big time money.
The bolded is key- the better teams generally are the ones who have favorable QB contracts. The reason Seattle has been so good in recent years is because they had one of the best QBs in the game making next to nothing. Brady makes way below market rate, Joe Flacco was in the last year of his rookie contract when he won the SB, Rodgers made $6.5mil the year they won, etc. Meanwhile, many of the biggest $ QBs like Ryan, Brees, Flacco, Rivers, Eli, Cutler, Kaepernick, Stafford, Tannehill, etc., are sitting home this postseason.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Real ballsy, Russ Brandon sending me a Season Ticket renewal a couple days after an 8-8 Season. My tickets only went up a few bucks, but the first payment is normally due 3.5 now it's 1.29
Get those commitments prior to losing people in free agency.
Take my money. Year 12 for me
Get those commitments prior to losing people in free agency.
Take my money. Year 12 for me
The Duff Man
Footballguy
First year for me...it seems a bit rushed. I haven't decided if I am in again or will go back to 1-2 games a year.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
[SIZE=medium]http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/01/05/pegula-gives-whaley-ryan-a-year-to-fix-bills/[/SIZE]
One year to fix Bills with playoffs or Whaley/Rex gone.
One year to fix Bills with playoffs or Whaley/Rex gone.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
There are also reports that the Bills are about to finalize a 4 year extension with Whaley. One of those has to be wrong.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Buffalo News with another hack job story. Pegula stated it wasn't true. Whaley got extended.
Jerry Sullivan again looked like a fool with his questions and prying at Tyrod contract talk with Whaley yesterday was a joke.
Dennis Thurman. Played for Cowboys. Bills fans hated to lose Pettine couple yrs ago when he went to Clev. Turned Bills aggressive. Long history with Rex. If this brings in Pettine, this would be strong staff combined with Roman on O.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
What I'm rooting for: Rex hires Mike Pettine.
What I actually expect to happen: Rex hires Rob Ryan.
I'm curious what the dynamics are like behind the scenes. Normally I'm not a fan of the owner meddling (and I still worry about the Pegula's being too hands on), but the alternative to that is giving Rex full control, and I wouldn't want to see that happen either. I mean, how can you really argue that he should be allowed to hand pick his DC after the awful job he just did with his previously hand-picked DC? Especially if it is his brother, who was fired after leading one of the worst defenses we've ever seen for the last two years...
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Yes, which is why I wrote that I'm normally not a fan of the owner meddling. In this case however, I don't think I could let the guy who just botched one of the best defenses in the NFL bring in the guy who ran one of the worst defenses in NFL history to try and "fix" it.
flysack
Footballguy
Urg. This would be awful. Which means it'll probably happen.
I really hate this team sometimes.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Well, Whaley got extended today (which I think is good). Also, reports are that Rex has hired Rob to help with the defense.
I mean, whenever you have one of the worst defenses in the league, and you can hire the architect of one of the worst defenses in league history, you gotta do it, right?
dirtyjay
Footballguy
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Huh. I was just joking about us hiring Rob Ryan, because I thought obviously such a thing would never happen. Life is strange sometimes.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Unbelievable (yet, very Billievable). I hope his involvement is nothing much more than tackling dummy holder.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Does this mean that Thurman has been fired? Rob's title makes it sound like he just took his job.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
I think typically the coach hires his own assistants, but it's also typical for the GM to hire the HC, and I don't think Doug Whaley had much if any input with the Rex hire. I think that was primarily a Pegula move. So....let's say Rex completely runs a fuster cluck program next year, I could see where he may be kicked to the curb and Whaley is given the chance to bring in his own hand picked coach.
Has anyone started a "Best list of HC candidates for 2017" yet?
They haven't announced that (yet), but last week he basically said he didn't want to say anything about other coaches until he spoke with them. It sounds like he just created this position for his brother. The title makes it sound like it's above the DC, but who the heck knows.
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