2021 Buffalo Bills - Same as it ever was*** (4 Viewers)

[Tommy Collins]

Whaley saying he had no input on the Rex firing and wasn't there for the conversation.

That's....wild.

Rex and Whaley were talking and during their conversation, for whatever reason, Rex wanted to talk to Pegula. A private conversation was had between Terry and Rex, at which time Terry informed Rex he was fired. Doug was then notified that Rex was fired. He wasn't there for the conversation because it was private. He was informed of the firing by Pegula.

Also said that he hasn't even thought about whether he agreed with the firing or not. Lol. Total dumpster fire from top to bottom.

When he was asked if he agreed with the decision he said he hasn't thought about it. 

So lets think about this: Rex was talking with Doug. During their conversation, he wanted to speaked to the owner. Why? Was the conversation not headed in the direction he wanted? Was this where he was being told to start EJ ahead of Tyrod? So Rex has the conversation with Pegula and wanted to know his future. He was told he would be fired and so they made it official at that moment, rather than wait to the end of the season. This way Rex could see his son's game on Saturday. 

"I was asked a point-blank question and based on the discussions we've been having all year, I felt it was better to tell Rex that we were going in a different direction," Pegula said.

So that quote should say a lot. Why did Whaley need to be in on the conversation when Rex was fired? They had been talking about it all year. Sounds to me like they were all on the same page that the Rex experiment wasn't working. So Pegula told Rex he was fired and that was that.

Does Doug not have an opinion on it? I'm sure he did, and I'm sure he told the ownership that. After all, the owner just said it was based on the conversations he was having all year. I guess we could speculate that it was Russ Brandon or the players, but I'm sure there were conversations between Ownership and Whaley about the team performing under Rex. After all, it was speculated that Rex was never Whaley's guy, so I have a hard time believing he would go to bat for him. Especially since he took the defense Whaley built, and was #4 overall in 2014, and turned it into a turd.

 

[GroveDiesel]

So Tyrod had groin surgery today and the Bills issued a statement that is super aggressive and makes it quite clear that they don't plan on keeping Taylor. 

I......can't. I just can't. The entire organization has no clue what they're doing. Maybe it's time for me just to root for the local inept team and be an Eagle's fan. At least I can attend games more easily.

 

[BlueDredSo]

So Tyrod had groin surgery today and the Bills issued a statement that is super aggressive and makes it quite clear that they don't plan on keeping Taylor. 

I......can't. I just can't. The entire organization has no clue what they're doing. Maybe it's time for me just to root for the local inept team and be an Eagle's fan. At least I can attend games more easily.

Bills QB Tyrod Taylor had a consultation visit yesterday with Dr. William Meyers and elected to have surgery this morning. The Bills were informed late yesterday of this morning’s procedure.

Yeah, they're definitely not happy that he just went and did that on his own. Although, Taylor told Vic that he's not looking to leave Buffalo, and maybe he chose to have surgery so he can get healthy as early as possible (before 3/12)...I don't know, this situation sucks, especially for the fanbase being completely in the dark. I'm rooting for Tyrod, not so much the Bills at this point. I like the guy and think he can be successful. The offense WAS NOT the problem this year. Sure, there are plays we all wish he could have back. He's not a perfect QB, but he also shouldn't have to be. Is he great? No. Is he good? Maybe. He's better than average I know that, and I know the Bills can win with him. The offense is familiar with him, he's familiar with the rest of the team, and there are no better options. If they move on from him then they may as well just start over, which is so ####### disappointing after seeing how talented this team is.

 

[humpback]

Bills QB Tyrod Taylor had a consultation visit yesterday with Dr. William Meyers and elected to have surgery this morning. The Bills were informed late yesterday of this morning’s procedure.

Yeah, they're definitely not happy that he just went and did that on his own. Although, Taylor told Vic that he's not looking to leave Buffalo, and maybe he chose to have surgery so he can get healthy as early as possible (before 3/12)...I don't know, this situation sucks, especially for the fanbase being completely in the dark. I'm rooting for Tyrod, not so much the Bills at this point. I like the guy and think he can be successful. The offense WAS NOT the problem this year. Sure, there are plays we all wish he could have back. He's not a perfect QB, but he also shouldn't have to be. Is he great? No. Is he good? Maybe. He's better than average I know that, and I know the Bills can win with him. The offense is familiar with him, he's familiar with the rest of the team, and there are no better options. If they move on from him then they may as well just start over, which is so ####### disappointing after seeing how talented this team is.

Can't say I agree with the bolded. They're ~.500 with him over the last two seasons, which is essentially the same as they were the previous two years without him. As far as "no better options", do you really think he is better than anyone they could find in the free agent/trade market and the draft?

I agree that Taylor wasn't their biggest problem this year obviously, but let's not act like he played great- he was below average. There is certainly risk in moving on from him, but I think it's far from certain that they can win with him or that there aren't better options out there (not that the Bills will get them). Overpaying for mediocre performance isn't a winning formula in the NFL either.

 

[BlueDredSo]

do you really think he is better than anyone they could find in the free agent/trade market and the draft?

Yes. Who is out there that is better? Vikings are keeping Bradford. Romo isn't coming to Buffalo. There are no better free agents. The draft? Yeah, right.

The offense held up their end of the deal this year. The defense didn't, at all.

 

[Tommy Collins]

do you really think he is better than anyone they could find in the free agent/trade market and the draft?

Yes. Who is out there that is better? Vikings are keeping Bradford. Romo isn't coming to Buffalo. There are no better free agents. The draft? Yeah, right.

The offense held up their end of the deal this year. The defense didn't, at all.

Romo could come to Buffalo. Unlikely, but it's possible. Washington looks like they're going to be a in tough spot with Cousins. Maybe they'll swing a trade. Is this offense going to be significally weaker with someone like Matt Barkley or Brian Hoyer? Buffalo is drafting #10, certainly possible they could land Deshaun Watson from Clemson. Might have to give up next year's 1st round pick to do it (I kid!)

 

[humpback]

do you really think he is better than anyone they could find in the free agent/trade market and the draft?

Yes. Who is out there that is better? Vikings are keeping Bradford. Romo isn't coming to Buffalo. There are no better free agents. The draft? Yeah, right.

The offense held up their end of the deal this year. The defense didn't, at all.

The potential list includes Romo, Cutler, Cousins, Glennon, Kaepernick, Barkley, Nassib, Fitzmagic (ha!), and others. You really think no QB in this draft is capable of putting up similar below average numbers like Taylor did this season? Agree to disagree I suppose.

Obviously the defense sucked and was a much bigger problem than the offense overall, but that was all because of the rushing side (which he did help with)- the passing game was one of the worst in the NFL. Again, not all on Tyrod, but he simply was not good this year, and I don't know how you can be so sure that they can win with him since there isn't a track record of that.

Many people seem to forget that the salary cap is a huge factor in the NFL, and that option in his contract definitely plays into this. I think that there are better bang-for-the-buck options at QB than him, but I admit that it's far from a given that they land one of them.

 

[BlueDredSo]

Romo could come to Buffalo. Unlikely, but it's possible. Washington looks like they're going to be a in tough spot with Cousins. Maybe they'll swing a trade. Is this offense going to be significally weaker with someone like Matt Barkley or Brian Hoyer? Buffalo is drafting #10, certainly possible they could land Deshaun Watson from Clemson. Might have to give up next year's 1st round pick to do it (I kid!)

Yeah, I guess it's possible. Washington will figure something out. You can't just let a franchise QB walk. I'd be ecstatic if the Bills could somehow get him. I absolutely think the offense would be significantly weaker with Barkley or Hoyer. NFL defenses still respect Tyrod's arm, otherwise they'd just load the box to stop the #1 running offense. Plus he has the running ability which has certainly helped extend drives and/or allow WRs to get open. I still think he hangs onto the ball too long but it seemed like he was getting better at it as the season progressed.

The guy didn't have his #1 WR for most of the year and I don't think Clay was 100% until later in the year. Woods was also banged up most of the year. The pass protection was very inconsistent. I may be in the minority, but I think the best case scenario for winning games next year will be to hang onto Tyrod. I'd say they'd probably be a little better with Romo, but I just don't see that happening.

 

[flysack]

do you really think he is better than anyone they could find in the free agent/trade market and the draft?

Yes. Who is out there that is better? Vikings are keeping Bradford. Romo isn't coming to Buffalo. There are no better free agents. The draft? Yeah, right.

The offense held up their end of the deal this year. The defense didn't, at all.

Taylor is a tease, imo. He makes the occasional amazing deep throw and will gain yards with his legs, but if a good playoff team ever takes away his run game, he is toast. The guy can't move the chains with a fluid short & medium passing game. He has terrible accuracy between 0-20 yards. How many easy hook routes and out patterns have we seen sail to the left of Clay or over Sammy's head? No. I like Taylor personally. I think he's a good guy and a heck of a competitor and he could help a team like the Browns or Niners. But he won't take the Bills to the playoffs. We need a guy who can hit Sammy on a 5 yard in-route with regularity, who can find Clay inside the mess across the middle. After two years it's clear that Taylor can't do that.

The Bills have the 10th pick in the draft and there's three good QBs coming out. They will most certainly get one if they want him. If they draft a safety instead I may finally FINALLY say #### THIS TEAM and become a Giant's fan.

 

[flysack]

The potential list includes Romo, Cutler, Cousins, Glennon, Kaepernick, Barkley, Nassib, Fitzmagic (ha!), and others. You really think no QB in this draft is capable of putting up similar below average numbers like Taylor did this season? Agree to disagree I suppose.

Romo will get killed by week 4.

Cutler has no heart. He's like the opposite of Tyrod: he can make those throws, but he has zero passion and team spirit. He'll sink a team in the opposite way Tyrod does.

Cousins ain't going anywhere.

Glennon is intriguing. Is he a free agent? Sign him. Do we need to trade something for him? Hell no.

Kap? Love the guy. But he just hasn't been the same since the injuries.

Barkley? Oh come on. What, is Matt Leinhart not available?

Nassib. Career backup at best. Stop. Just stop.

Fitz. Do I need to comment here?

 

[flysack]

I'll say this too: this offense is tailor made to help develop a talented rookie passer. They've been the #1 rushing team two years in a row. All our o-lineman and RBs are signed, and we may even upgrade J. Miller, who sucks. We have a bone fide #1 WR, if he can stay healthy. A good catching TE as a security blanket. This is a dream situation to develop a rookie QB. Look at Dallas. It's almost the same thing, except with a crappier pass-protecting line.

 

[BlueDredSo]

Taylor is a tease, imo. He makes the occasional amazing deep throw and will gain yards with his legs, but if a good playoff team ever takes away his run game, he is toast. The guy can't move the chains with a fluid short & medium passing game. He has terrible accuracy between 0-20 yards. How many easy hook routes and out patterns have we seen sail to the left of Clay or over Sammy's head? No. I like Taylor personally. I think he's a good guy and a heck of a competitor and he could help a team like the Browns or Niners. But he won't take the Bills to the playoffs. We need a guy who can hit Sammy on a 5 yard in-route with regularity, who can find Clay inside the mess across the middle. After two years it's clear that Taylor can't do that.

The Bills have the 10th pick in the draft and there's three good QBs coming out. They will most certainly get one if they want him. If they draft a safety instead I may finally FINALLY say #### THIS TEAM and become a Giant's fan.

Who are the 3 good QB's coming out? I'm sure I could look it up. I don't pay as much attention to college football as I should. I know DeShaun Watson is one of them, right? Then the guy from UNC and then...?

 

[humpback]

Romo will get killed by week 4.

Cutler has no heart. He's like the opposite of Tyrod: he can make those throws, but he has zero passion and team spirit. He'll sink a team in the opposite way Tyrod does.

Cousins ain't going anywhere.

Glennon is intriguing. Is he a free agent? Sign him. Do we need to trade something for him? Hell no.

Kap? Love the guy. But he just hasn't been the same since the injuries.

Barkley? Oh come on. What, is Matt Leinhart not available?

Nassib. Career backup at best. Stop. Just stop.

Fitz. Do I need to comment here?

Can I borrow your crystal ball when you're done with it?

I guess you ignored the last paragraph, which is the most important one. No one would argue that some of these guys are better than Tyrod straight up, but that's not how the NFL works- contracts play a big role since there's a limit to what every team can spend (and the Bills are close to that limit). If you can get slightly less production at a much lower cost, many times the overall team will be better off.

 

[BlueDredSo]

Below average. Taylor was 9th in QBR this season without Watkins and Woods at about 75% all season. It's not his fault the offense runs more than any other team in the league to get his yardage stats inflated a little more.

 

[flysack]

Who are the 3 good QB's coming out? I'm sure I could look it up. I don't pay as much attention to college football as I should. I know DeShaun Watson is one of them, right? Then the guy from UNC and then...?

Watson

Kizer

Trubisky

in no particular order.

 

[flysack]

Below average. Taylor was 9th in QBR this season without Watkins and Woods at about 75% all season. It's not his fault the offense runs more than any other team in the league to get his yardage stats inflated a little more.

This is the type of comment made by someone who looks at numbers and not games.

 

[flysack]

Can I borrow your crystal ball when you're done with it?

I guess you ignored the last paragraph, which is the most important one. No one would argue that some of these guys are better than Tyrod straight up, but that's not how the NFL works- contracts play a big role since there's a limit to what every team can spend (and the Bills are close to that limit). If you can get slightly less production at a much lower cost, many times the overall team will be better off.

Crystal ball? Have you seen these guys play?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

JFC.  Tyrod Taylor would have gotten us to the playoffs no problem with just decent defence.  The offense was fine and not a season-long problem at all.  Quit ####### blaming Taylor for this ####.  We're all going to be missing him next year when some scrub is under center 

 

[humpback]

Crystal ball? Have you seen these guys play?

Yes for some, not much of others, which is kind of the point. Completely writing off a guy like Nassib because he didn't take the job away from a 2 time super bowl MVP is kind of silly, and I'm not sure how you know that Cousins isn't going anywhere for certain without that crystal ball.

Again, the larger point is that the comparison isn't simply Tyrod vs. the other QB in a vacuum- overpaying at one position means you have less to spend elsewhere, so if you can get ~90% of the production of Taylor at ~50-75% of the cost, the team could very easily be better off.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I think you guys are way underestimating Taylor. He certainly has flaws, but the Bills were a top 10 scoring offense both years under him despite tons of OL, WR and RB injuries after 2 years of being in the 20s for scoring offense.

He was 7th and 9th in QBR the last 2 years.

He very rarely turns the ball over.

The Bills were much much much worse on offense the last two years when he didn't play.

Is he Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady elite? No, but he's almost certainly an above average NFL QB. The odds of finding someone better honestly are not all that good IMO. 

Again, the problem wasn't the offense this year. They lost 5 times despite scoring over 30 points. The defense was terrible the last two years and much more responsible for the Bills missing the playoffs than Taylor. If the Bills had finished as a top 10 defense either of those years, they almost certainly would have made the playoffs. To make Taylor the scapegoat is asinine.

 

[humpback]

JFC.  Tyrod Taylor would have gotten us to the playoffs no problem with just decent defence.  The offense was fine and not a season-long problem at all.  Quit ####### blaming Taylor for this ####.  We're all going to be missing him next year when some scrub is under center 

I think you guys are way underestimating Taylor. He certainly has flaws, but the Bills were a top 10 scoring offense both years under him despite tons of OL, WR and RB injuries after 2 years of being in the 20s for scoring offense.

He was 7th and 9th in QBR the last 2 years.

He very rarely turns the ball over.

The Bills were much much much worse on offense the last two years when he didn't play.

Is he Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady elite? No, but he's almost certainly an above average NFL QB. The odds of finding someone better honestly are not all that good IMO. 

Again, the problem wasn't the offense this year. They lost 5 times despite scoring over 30 points. The defense was terrible the last two years and much more responsible for the Bills missing the playoffs than Taylor. If the Bills had finished as a top 10 defense either of those years, they almost certainly would have made the playoffs. To make Taylor the scapegoat is asinine.

Link?

 

[flysack]

Yes for some, not much of others, which is kind of the point. Completely writing off a guy like Nassib because he didn't take the job away from a 2 time super bowl MVP is kind of silly, and I'm not sure how you know that Cousins isn't going anywhere for certain without that crystal ball.

Again, the larger point is that the comparison isn't simply Tyrod vs. the other QB in a vacuum- overpaying at one position means you have less to spend elsewhere, so if you can get ~90% of the production of Taylor at ~50-75% of the cost, the team could very easily be better off.

I wrote Nassib off from watching him at Syracuse and then in preseason with the Giants. He's horrible.

Cousins isn't going anywhere, because at worst/best, Washington can tag him again for one year. Ergo, he ain't going anywhere.

See this thing in my hand? It's microphone. Watch it drop.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Taylor is a tease, imo. He makes the occasional amazing deep throw and will gain yards with his legs, but if a good playoff team ever takes away his run game, he is toast. The guy can't move the chains with a fluid short & medium passing game. He has terrible accuracy between 0-20 yards. How many easy hook routes and out patterns have we seen sail to the left of Clay or over Sammy's head? No. I like Taylor personally. I think he's a good guy and a heck of a competitor and he could help a team like the Browns or Niners. But he won't take the Bills to the playoffs. We need a guy who can hit Sammy on a 5 yard in-route with regularity, who can find Clay inside the mess across the middle. After two years it's clear that Taylor can't do that.

I couldn't agree with this more.

The Bills have the 10th pick in the draft and there's three good QBs coming out. They will most certainly get one if they want him. If they draft a safety instead I may finally FINALLY say #### THIS TEAM and become a Giant's fan.

I couldn't agree with this less.

I'm no expert scout, but I just don't see any standouts at the top of this QB draft class. If they draft another QB at 10, I think it'll be another EJ Manuel.

 

[humpback]

As terrible as a senior season that Barkley had, there's no way he gets past the bottom of the first round. Chris Effing Ponder was a mid-first round pick. Barkley shows too much "promise" as a pro QB. Geno won't make it out of the first 15 picks either. I know it's almost cliche to suggest it, but their most realistic bet is to nab Nassib or a similar talent in the 2nd round.

The Bills just signed Matt Leinhart (sorry, no link).

I love this move. To me, Leinhart always seemed like a good QB who who caught every bad break that could happen. He plays reasonable well as Warner's backup, but when Warner retires, Wisenhunt (who didn't draft him) cuts Leinhart in preseason.

He goes to Houston to back up Shaub. Shaub gets hurt and Leinhart comes in and lights it up for 2 quarters....then breaks (was it his leg?) something and is out for the season.

Then he has to sign with the Raiders where he was probably LUCKY not to see the field.

Here's to hoping he picks up the offense well enough in 2 weeks to start the season as Manuel's backup. I like him a hell of a lot better than Kolb, who should be cut IMO.

I wrote Nassib off from watching him at Syracuse and then in preseason with the Giants. He's horrible.

Cousins isn't going anywhere, because at worst/best, Washington can tag him again for one year. Ergo, he ain't going anywhere.

See thing in my hand? It's microphone. Watch it drop.

I put a couple of gems with your QB acumen on full display above. Ironic how you are now bashing everyone you were praising.

#thatshowyoudropthemic

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

Haven't been following the chatter here since I was busy moving, but I wonder if it's been thought about..... safe to assume Tyrod is not going to be here next year under his current contract, what do you all think he'll get next year, anywhere? I'd think, he'll go somewhere where he'll be told he can compete for the starting QB position, meaning he'll get a contract somewhat similar to what RG3 got, which was 2 year deal, loaded with incentives, which I believe was anywhere from $15 mill guaranteed to as much as $22 mill over the 2 years?  I can see his best scenario to start in NFL would be, in Buffalo no? But has he already decided to leave no matter what?  I would think the Bills might offer him a new deal after he becomes a free agent but at a lot less money, riiiiiiight?

If Tyrod leaves for good, which I expect him to, looks like a veteran will be brought in (Cutler) to fill the void while another QB will be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round by the Bills and Cardale gets another year to develiop?

 

[flysack]

I put a couple of gems with your QB acumen on full display above. Ironic how you are now bashing everyone you were praising.

#thatshowyoudropthemic

You actually went and dug up years old posts of mine in a raging fit. That's awesome.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Haven't been following the chatter here since I was busy moving, but I wonder if it's been thought about..... safe to assume Tyrod is not going to be here next year under his current contract, what do you all think he'll get next year, anywhere? I'd think, he'll go somewhere where he'll be told he can compete for the starting QB position, meaning he'll get a contract somewhat similar to what RG3 got, which was 2 year deal, loaded with incentives, which I believe was anywhere from $15 mill guaranteed to as much as $22 mill over the 2 years?  I can see his best scenario to start in NFL would be, in Buffalo no? But has he already decided to leave no matter what?  I would think the Bills might offer him a new deal after he becomes a free agent but at a lot less money, riiiiiiight?

If Tyrod leaves for good, which I expect him to, looks like a veteran will be brought in (Cutler) to fill the void while another QB will be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round by the Bills and Cardale gets another year to develiop?

The Bills would be better off going all in on Cardale next year. Either he's something and you have your guy, or the team is horrible and you have a high draft pick to select a QB in 2018.

They're not winning a Super Bowl with Romo or Cutler, so delaying the rebuild just to try to make the playoffs is dumb and would be an indication that Whaley is more concerned with keeping his job than he is the long term success of the team.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I can't take anyone seriously who thinks Nassib could be a starter still.

 

[humpback]

You actually went and dug up years old posts of mine in a raging fit. That's awesome.

Your first post is on the very first page of this thread and I remember having a conversation about Nassib on here while the draft was going on so it was easy to find. No rage, it took all of a minute to expose that your QB crystal ball needs some major adjustments (and that's being kind).

 

[humpback]

I can't take anyone seriously who thinks Nassib could be a starter still.

You also liked Nassib back at draft time, praised him quite a bit- what have you seen in his 10 career attempts that has convinced you that there is zero chance he can be a starter?

 

[GroveDiesel]

You also liked Nassib back at draft time, praised him quite a bit- what have you seen in his 10 career attempts that has convinced you that there is zero chance he can be a starter?

Never thought he was an accurate passer and I've come around to believing that the two traits that matter the most by far for a QB are accuracy and reading the defense.

 

[humpback]

Never thought he was an accurate passer and I've come around to believing that the two traits that matter the most by far for a QB are accuracy and reading the defense.

So it's nothing that you've seen/heard, it's just that you have changed what you think is important for a QB? If so, I assume the same is true for Tyrod considering he was less accurate than Nassib?

I'm not trying to argue that Nassib is the answer by any stretch (he very likely isn't), he was just one name on a list of possible available QBs this off season. I do think it's kind of odd that people can be so sure there is zero chance he can be a starting NFL QB, especially considering they liked him coming out of college and he's done nothing to show that he can't be. I mean, it's almost the same exact scenario as Tyrod, except Nassib was a better prospect coming out.

 

[humpback]

Haven't been following the chatter here since I was busy moving, but I wonder if it's been thought about..... safe to assume Tyrod is not going to be here next year under his current contract, what do you all think he'll get next year, anywhere? I'd think, he'll go somewhere where he'll be told he can compete for the starting QB position, meaning he'll get a contract somewhat similar to what RG3 got, which was 2 year deal, loaded with incentives, which I believe was anywhere from $15 mill guaranteed to as much as $22 mill over the 2 years?  I can see his best scenario to start in NFL would be, in Buffalo no? But has he already decided to leave no matter what?  I would think the Bills might offer him a new deal after he becomes a free agent but at a lot less money, riiiiiiight?

If Tyrod leaves for good, which I expect him to, looks like a veteran will be brought in (Cutler) to fill the void while another QB will be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round by the Bills and Cardale gets another year to develiop?

It's all speculation, there's really no way of knowing what the clown show at OBD is going to do or what's going on in Tyrod's mind. We don't even know who the coaches are going to be yet and they are likely to at least have some say in what direction they go at QB.

That being said, I don't think his salary is the main obstacle, it's the option in his contract- they have to make a $30 mil decision by March. Perhaps they can re-work that, but if he truly wants out of Buffalo (and who could blame him), he can just refuse and force their hand since they gave him most of the leverage. If he does become a FA, I wouldn't be surprised if his next contract is similar to this current one, minus the big guarantees. I do think someone will sign him to be the starter, he won't have to compete for the job.

 

[Dezbelief]

It's all speculation, there's really no way of knowing what the clown show at OBD is going to do or what's going on in Tyrod's mind. We don't even know who the coaches are going to be yet and they are likely to at least have some say in what direction they go at QB.

That being said, I don't think his salary is the main obstacle, it's the option in his contract- they have to make a $30 mil decision by March. Perhaps they can re-work that, but if he truly wants out of Buffalo (and who could blame him), he can just refuse and force their hand since they gave him most of the leverage. If he does become a FA, I wouldn't be surprised if his next contract is similar to this current one, minus the big guarantees. I do think someone will sign him to be the starter, he won't have to compete for the job.

Things get dicey if Tyrod isn't healthy. His surgery has an expected recovery of 6 weeks. If it takes him past that March date to get healthy the Bills are on the hook for quite a bit.

 

[humpback]

Things get dicey if Tyrod isn't healthy. His surgery has an expected recovery of 6 weeks. If it takes him past that March date to get healthy the Bills are on the hook for quite a bit.

It could, but I don't expect it to ultimately be an issue. I wasn't a fan of the extension in general nor the large injury guarantees, but at least they protected themselves somewhat by leaving the decision up to the team doctors. He's going to have to be in rough shape for them to fail him, and even then there is offset language in his contract so they'd get some relief when he signed elsewhere (although he'd likely structure his next deal to minimize that).

 

[lod001]

Watson

Kizer

Trubisky

in no particular order.

I'd take Taylor over Watson and Kizer. They are inaccurate passers. Taylor only had 6 INTs on the season and throws a great pass.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

... and throws a great pass.

Uhh... Really? That's news to me.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

It could, but I don't expect it to ultimately be an issue. I wasn't a fan of the extension in general nor the large injury guarantees, but at least they protected themselves somewhat by leaving the decision up to the team doctors. He's going to have to be in rough shape for them to fail him, and even then there is offset language in his contract so they'd get some relief when he signed elsewhere (although he'd likely structure his next deal to minimize that).

Do some folks really think Taylor being back with the Bills is a possibility? That baffles me.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Well this is interesting/evidence of total ineptness and incompetent meddling: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/818112863931953152

 

[humpback]

It's becoming more and more obvious that the Pegula's are the ring leaders of this circus. Meddlesome owners rarely work out, especially when you have no idea what you're doing.

Relevant

 

[GroveDiesel]

It's becoming more and more obvious that the Pegula's are the ring leaders of this circus. Meddlesome owners rarely work out, especially when you have no idea what you're doing.

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I agree. Ownership making the call on the head coach, having the head coach and GM both report to the owner rather than the HC to the GM, the owner firing the coach without GM involvement, etc, is all a recipe for disaster and disfunction. Most GM would quit before dealing with that nonsense.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I agree. Ownership making the call on the head coach, having the head coach and GM both report to the owner rather than the HC to the GM, the owner firing the coach without GM involvement, etc, is all a recipe for disaster and disfunction. Most GM would quit before dealing with that nonsense.

What's crazy, is that I think if Whaley quit he'd get a new gig pretty easily. He's assembled a pretty darn talented team, and he could easily say "Rex - not my hire. EJ - Not my pick. Trade for Sammy - desparation move."

 

[BlueDredSo]

This is the type of comment made by someone who looks at numbers and not games.

Yeah, I know. I've watched every game though. Maybe a more important stat is that he was the 3rd highest QB in off-target attempts. Especially considering how few attempts he made compared to the rest of the QBs. That's really not good.

I've warmed up to the idea of moving on from Tyrod over the past week. There aren't many guys available whom I'd think would be better than Tyrod. They're all pretty uninspiring, besides Romo. The draft intrigues me more. I'd be somewhat excited if they were able to nab Watson, Kizer, or Trubisky. Yet also pretty scared/nervous. Are there any others projected to go in the first 3 rounds who you could see being good NFL QB's?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

RT @viccarucci: #Bills are zeroed in on Sean McDermott as their next HC. Could have something finalized in the next day or so.

 

[BlueDredSo]

@SalSports If Sean McDermott is new Bills HC, and it appears things are headed that way at the moment, keep hearing Mike McCoy could join him as OC.

 

[flysack]

Ok, I'll say it. Why Sean McDermott?

I didn't follow the Panthers that well this year, but isn't he the guy who lost his #1 CB (Norman) and couldn't compensate for the loss...watching his D turn to crap?

 

[flysack]

Eh? the more you know.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/sean-mcdermott-coaching-salary-family-career-interviews/

 

[flysack]

The more I read, the more I like the choice (I think). At least he isn't a desperate, left field hire (Chan Gaily) or a flashy celeb hire (Rex Ryan). McDermott has been a hot commodity for a HC position for a couple years now. He's only 42. And McCoy seems like a great offensive mind if he comes too.

i.e. it wouldn't be a stupid hire.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

The more I read, the more I like the choice (I think). At least he isn't a desperate, left field hire (Chan Gaily) or a flashy celeb hire (Rex Ryan). McDermott has been a hot commodity for a HC position for a couple years now. He's only 42. And McCoy seems like a great offensive mind if he comes too.

i.e. it wouldn't be a stupid hire.

Seems reasonable.  I don't really know much about the guy and I practically never watch Panthers games, but at least he's somebody whose drawn interest from other teams, unlike folks like Gailey and Marrone.

 

[BlueDredSo]

Bills to have 2nd interview with Sean McDermott today

Seems like it's very close to happening. I'm with flysack, the more I read the more I'm liking this guy. Seems to have had and continues to have a lot of interest around the league. Young, smart, comes from a very good football background. The Mike McCoy thing is nice too.