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2021 Houston Texans - (1 Viewer)

Yep more of the same last night. Bad clock mgmt., lack of urgency, defense did better defending on the deep plays but then got picked apart underneath. Some dumb penalties at the worst times. Right side of the line struggled mightily but when facing Chris Jones and Frank Clark that'll happen to lots of guys. Started out well, but you can tell the Chiefs adjusted to what we were doing that was new and then we couldn't pivot from there.

Ravens are another tough matchup next week but then the schedule lightens up.
I am not sure how much it lightens up as they have to go to Pittsburgh with a presumably healthy Roethlisberger and then play Minnesota who could be very tough if Kubiak gets that offense running the way he has gotten offenses to run in the past. I really won't be surprised if they start 0-4.

 
I am not sure how much it lightens up as they have to go to Pittsburgh with a presumably healthy Roethlisberger and then play Minnesota who could be very tough if Kubiak gets that offense running the way he has gotten offenses to run in the past. I really won't be surprised if they start 0-4.
In past years, I'd welcome the 0-4 start because it would likely be the end of BOB.  With him being the GM as well, I doubt anything changes.  Same ol' bs   :kicksrock:

 
I am not sure how much it lightens up as they have to go to Pittsburgh with a presumably healthy Roethlisberger and then play Minnesota who could be very tough if Kubiak gets that offense running the way he has gotten offenses to run in the past. I really won't be surprised if they start 0-4.
Surprised no, not with those specific teams (@Tenn week 6, and Packers week 7 also,) but they have one of the easiest remaining SOS through the rest of the season. Granted SOS doesn’t mean a ton when it’s based on last years results.

 
"There's a lot to fix," Texans coach and general manager Bill O'Brien said. "We have a long way to go here obviously.

They could really use a true #1 WR.

 
Where does this team really go from here? We clearly need a lot of help but mortgaged our future to get Tunsil. Johnson looks to be a good back, but none of our WR scare anyone anymore really. 

We need basically everything except a QB but tanking makes nothing better. Most of all we clearly need a new HC and a real GM. 

I feel like there are some exciting coaching options out there to re-energize the fan base but there’s no way McNair has the stones to do anything like that and especially not mid season. 

 
Where does this team really go from here? We clearly need a lot of help but mortgaged our future to get Tunsil. Johnson looks to be a good back, but none of our WR scare anyone anymore really. 

We need basically everything except a QB but tanking makes nothing better. Most of all we clearly need a new HC and a real GM. 

I feel like there are some exciting coaching options out there to re-energize the fan base but there’s no way McNair has the stones to do anything like that and especially not mid season. 
I disagree.  If we can somehow figure a way out of Watson's contract and trade him for a 2nd + another RB,  we'll be well on our way.  

 
Thought the wheels would come off next year, but it’s already happened. KC and Balt are understandable but they blew the Pitt game and looked terrible against a bad MINN team. Defense is dead last, offense is pretty close to last. At this rate the only thing I could see as an even slightly defensible reason for bailing out BOB would be a COVID shortened or ended season. Just an inexcusable performance so far no matter the excuse.

But instead, I am sure Weaver and especially Kelley as OC will be the scapegoats.

 
BOB needs to be gone but not sure if the owners have the stones to do it. Playcalling is terrible and so is the roster

 
Good news everyone!  :unsure:

He is also reportedly going to take over at QB, WR, LB & equipment manager. :sadbanana:

Houston Chronicle's John McClain reports Texans coach Bill O'Brien is expected to call plays for the rest of the season.

O'Brien communicated plays directly to Deshaun Watson for the first time all year in Sunday's 31-23 loss to Minnesota, likely convincing himself to take the reigns from OC Tim Kelly altogether. Kelly will reportedly stay involved in the team's "game-planning." Houston's 23 points were a season-high mark, but the play-calling — a role O'Brien has already failed at during his nightmarish tenure with the Texans — is the least of the organization's worries. Miami's front office is popping champagne upon hearing this news since the team owns Houston's first- and second-round picks for the 2021 draft.
 
As a Jets fan, I applaud Texans ownership. Nice to see a management group that recognizes when they have a moron in charge and are willing to cut their losses.
I would have applauded them doing this a few years ago.  I suppose its a step in the right direction but BOB's GMing is really going to hurt the Texans going forward.   

 
I would have applauded them doing this a few years ago.  I suppose its a step in the right direction but BOB's GMing is really going to hurt the Texans going forward.   
Exactly. Damage from GM Bob is already done and will last for years. If 4 games was enough to get him fired he never should have been given so much power last offseason in the first place. That's negligent ownership.

 
Exactly. Damage from GM Bob is already done and will last for years. If 4 games was enough to get him fired he never should have been given so much power last offseason in the first place. That's negligent ownership.
Maybe we can hope the negligent owners are negligent enough to sell to better owners next? We fans can dream right?

 
To be fair, BOB did take over for the rest of the season. 
 

he just didn’t know his season only had 2 hours left to it. 

 
I don't disagree with the move at all but this is the 2020 season so it's hard to imagine that it was worth doing.  No good replacement is coming through the door.  The Texans are Texas toast for the year.  

And Romeo Crennel...is it just me or does it seem like this guy has stepped in as an interim coach about 20 times now?

 
Man, I really feel bad for the Texans fan base. That Hopkins trade still stings to think about, and I have no connection to the Houston franchise.

No high picks coming... need the best money-juggling, free agent targeting GM that they can find.

For a coach, I would target Eric Bieniemy.

 
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At least BOB is gone. Did Easterby sign off on any of these crazy trades and bad contracts? If so, he needs to be gone too. What are they thinking now as any kind of plan moving forward making such an overdue move this early in the season? There's enough misused talent on the team to actually squeeze out a mediocre season with improved coaching/leadership before the tough decisions have to be made salary cap-wise next year. Or just blow it up now? Obviously McDaniels will be linked with the Easterby connection, but I'd rather we try hard for Bieniemy.

There are still moves that could be made to (slightly) lessen the impact of what BOB has done. IDK if someone has the balls to do it mid-season or what the savings might be (do these salaries become guaranteed after the start of the league year?) but cut Hargreaves, Cooks, Stills, Fuller, DJ, trade Watt ( :cry: ). Cut one of Mercilus or Cobb in the offseason and designate it a post June cut. Cut Kelemete and maybe try to bring an offensive line coach in that actually knows what they are doing. Both Scharping & Howard have regressed badly this year, and Martin is playing poorly at Center too.

 
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I don't disagree with the move at all but this is the 2020 season so it's hard to imagine that it was worth doing.  No good replacement is coming through the door.  The Texans are Texas toast for the year.  

And Romeo Crennel...is it just me or does it seem like this guy has stepped in as an interim coach about 20 times now?
Crennel was only an interim coach once before, with the Chiefs in 2011. He was then hired as KC's head coach but was fired the next season.

 
I haven't posted at all since my team, the Miami Dolphins traded with Houston last season and got all these picks. What I am surprised about is that B.o.B. had them 2nd Round of playoffs and a healthy lead vs KC only to be blown out, trade a high value skill position player, trade away 2 years worth of picks, if you went that far as an owner and allowed all that, OK they started 0-4 but what are you equipping the next regime with?

I ask the question and I apologize as I'm not trying to ruffle feathers but is Watson tradable? Do you want to maybe start acquiring high picks for some of your better players and start over? I think Watson is a great QB, and he deserves a better WR replacement. If you all had your 1st round pick I would encourage you to trade Watson and get in the Trevor sweepstakes but that might not be possible the way I outline it. 

I know fans are happy and a lot of media folks but he did some real damage that the next person will have to try and fix, whoever that is might only be a bridge to the ultimate hire down the road. Just my .02

 
Exactly. Damage from GM Bob is already done and will last for years. If 4 games was enough to get him fired he never should have been given so much power last offseason in the first place. That's negligent ownership.
Agree Agree Agreee

Phinsfan and we have one of the absolute worst in the entire League bar none. From BullyGate to Coach Dan running the Oklahoma Drill taking over for Coach Philbin the last guy to get fired this early into a season back in 2015, overriding his GM and Presidents of Operations and hire Head Coaches based on what he felt was important, that hasn't worked out well, carries a pretty below average GM since 2016 that has blown multiple picks already but somehow gets zero blame. 

Trying to hold the city hostage for a new stadium or renovations and possibly moving the team, that didn't work out well a eventually Goodell would bring him to his knees and dig into his own pockets so he could host the Super Bowl in Miami...and I can keep going but you would get bored after a while. 

 
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I don't disagree with the move at all but this is the 2020 season so it's hard to imagine that it was worth doing.  No good replacement is coming through the door.  The Texans are Texas toast for the year.  

And Romeo Crennel...is it just me or does it seem like this guy has stepped in as an interim coach about 20 times now?
DC in New England '01-'04

HC Browns '05-'08

HC Chiefs '11-'12

DC in Houston for a while

Asst Head Coach starting in 2017 he also was the DC a couple seasons along the way. 

He is a ripe 73 years young...

 
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Romeo Crennel is the very definition of a retread. He’s had stretches of competence as a HC, but IIRC he’s not the most creative playcallet. 

28-55 record as a HC, but much of that was with low talent teams he stepped in as interim.

He’s already in the organization - hopefully he’s smart enough to tell their OC use Watson’s legs - they’ve had the shackles on him all year & it’s stifled his production. Dude used to play like Mahomes before Mahomes was Mahomes. If they get back to that they’re not a 0-win team.

This team has talent. Hopefully they figure out how to use it with BOB out of the way. 

 
I haven't posted at all since my team, the Miami Dolphins traded with Houston last season and got all these picks. What I am surprised about is that B.o.B. had them 2nd Round of playoffs and a healthy lead vs KC only to be blown out, trade a high value skill position player, trade away 2 years worth of picks, if you went that far as an owner and allowed all that, OK they started 0-4 but what are you equipping the next regime with?

I ask the question and I apologize as I'm not trying to ruffle feathers but is Watson tradable? Do you want to maybe start acquiring high picks for some of your better players and start over? I think Watson is a great QB, and he deserves a better WR replacement. If you all had your 1st round pick I would encourage you to trade Watson and get in the Trevor sweepstakes but that might not be possible the way I outline it. 

I know fans are happy and a lot of media folks but he did some real damage that the next person will have to try and fix, whoever that is might only be a bridge to the ultimate hire down the road. Just my .02
Watson is no longer trade-able, BOB signed him to the 2nd largest contract extension behind only Mahomes a month ago just before week 1 and it has a no trade clause.

 
The team is missing it’s 1st & 2nd for the 2021 draft and has a few bad contracts BOB handed out that it can’t get out of all of them until after 2021 (mostly Cobb as a FA, overpaying a few Texans players with undeserved extensions, and acquiring guys like DJ/Cooks.) After that it’s a clean slate with a young franchise QB in place, there are lots worse spots to be in.

Crennel is the bridge/placeholder most likely to whoever takes over. He’s in his 70’s and health is an issue which is why DC duties were taken away from him a few years ago. It will take a talented GM to dig them out of the hole they are in but it’s doable. Better coaching alone would get them out of the cellar and back to a .500 team. Outside of Nuk being gone, there’s not a ton of roster difference between the current squad and last years playoff team at the moment. There’s deadweight that can easily be jettisoned but some cuts resulting in roster holes will have to be made to get the salary cap back into decent shape without near term replacements due to FA constraints and a lack of picks next year. If a new regime can get the O’line working better you can easily be back to an above average offense and then work on fixing the defense in future years that BOB ruined.

 
I know it's hard to fire position coaches mid-season, but I am in favor of firing Mike Devlin, the o-line coach. The Texans finally put a lot of resources into the o-line in the last two years and they still are not performing well. That's scheme and coaching to me. O'Brien was responsible for the scheme but Devlin is responsible for the coaching. Get him out of there.

And Jack Easterby is Lord Baelish.

 
Watson is no longer trade-able, BOB signed him to the 2nd largest contract extension behind only Mahomes a month ago just before week 1 and it has a no trade clause.
If they traded him this offseason they would take a $21M dead cap hit. Right now they’re projected to be over the cap by $11M next year, so that would probably be impossible for them to work out absorbing that much dead money.

ETA: Actually, I think I read Spotrac wrong. I think if they trade him during the offseason, it only ends up being about a $5.5M cap hit due to hit from dead money minus his salary number. So the savings on his salary offset most of the dead cap money from bonuses.

 
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I know it's hard to fire position coaches mid-season, but I am in favor of firing Mike Devlin, the o-line coach. The Texans finally put a lot of resources into the o-line in the last two years and they still are not performing well. That's scheme and coaching to me. O'Brien was responsible for the scheme but Devlin is responsible for the coaching. Get him out of there.

And Jack Easterby is Lord Baelish.
While it’s not necessarily his fault BOB ran off Brandon Brooks, Ben Jones, and Duane Brown, Devlin should have been fired years ago. He’s had 5 years and the o’line has been awful every year. Some of that is BOB’s ridiculous schemes, but they are struggling with basic protection against vanilla defensive fronts, and been outright terrible against pressure looks through 4 games.

 
If they traded him this offseason they would take a $21M dead cap hit. Right now they’re projected to be over the cap by $11M next year, so that would probably be impossible for them to work out absorbing that much dead money.

ETA: Actually, I think I read Spotrac wrong. I think if they trade him during the offseason, it only ends up being about a $5.5M cap hit due to hit from dead money minus his salary number. So the savings on his salary offset most of the dead cap money from bonuses.
His signing bonus was relatively small so the hit from a trade isn’t large as most of the guarantees for 2021 thru 2023 are on his base salary. The problem is that he has veto power with the no trade clause. That will make it difficult to trade him anywhere that will be willing to take on that contract, that is willing to to pay anything worthwhile in draft picks on top of that, and that he would agree to go to.

 
Maybe, but you just canned a former college coach. Why bring in another? I would look at the NFL ranks for your next head coach.

Jeff Fisher have any love in Houston?
Sure hope not. Can't speak for other fans but I doubt that would make anyone here happy. The Texans define mediocre. Fisher is the ultimate mediocre coach. I guess in that sense it's a match, but certainly not the way I'd hope they go. 

 
JJ Watt let his feelings on the matter be felt with this Twitter picture from a few minutes ago. I think it says a lot as he shows the sun shining down, it's a new day in his mind in Houston. I think B.O.B. did long term damage but Watt is a leader and he doesn't seem upset that B.O.B. is gone. 

 
Maybe, but you just canned a former college coach. Why bring in another? I would look at the NFL ranks for your next head coach.

Jeff Fisher have any love in Houston?
There are still fans that would like him from the Oilers days, but please no. Game passed him by many years ago. I was sad when the Titans let him go finally as it meant they may actually do something for once. I agree on the NFL ranks comment, McDaniels name will likely be thrown around a lot with the Easterby connection, but I don't want another Patriot Way experiment. Hopefully by now owners have realized that the fruit from the Belichick coaching tree apparently is sour. How many guys have failed prior to BOB, and it's not like Patricia is currently thriving in Detroit. Vrable should be far enough removed to not really be considered as part of that same line IMO.

 
Folks that are surprised or think they should've let BOB see out this season haven't been following the Texans closely over the years.  Sure on paper, all those division titles and playoff appearances look good but when you can only muster out a 500 record in that once god awful division and collapse once the real playoffs start, you'll realize why the Texans faithful have been calling for his head.  

And then you add all the roster mismanagement - to think that they gave up Duane Brown, Clowney, Honey Badger, Hopkins and so many top draft picks for this roster really makes you question everything BOB is about.   It wasn't too long ago that we were giving up on Fitzpatrick and Keenum for Osweiller and Mallett.  Watson really helped mask BOB's problems and often bailed out his horrendous play calling.  BOB needs to thank Rick Smith for that move or Tom Savage would likely still be QBing.  

 
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This team needs to ditch Easterby as well. The focus really shouldn't be on finding the right coach right now. The Texans have had a whacked-out organizational structure since Kubiak was hired and Casserly stepped down. Looking back, the set-up was ripe for power struggles and dysfunction behind the scenes, which is exactly what happened.

Above all else, Cal McNair needs to find the right guy to oversee the entire football structure. A strong president who leaves no doubt who is in charge and is known for player personnel and development. He'll understand player value and find talent all over. He won't throw away draft picks, but instead use those picks to maneuver in the draft for the guys he and his scouts covet. He won't give out bad contracts like Halloween candy. He'll hire the right guy to coach the team. That coach will know his job and answer to the President/GM. This team needs a total makeover and cultural change at the very top if they ever want to seriously compete for titles. I, for one, would prefer Cal McNair truly put his stamp on this team by starting right here. This is the guy they need. Find him.

 
This team needs to ditch Easterby as well. The focus really shouldn't be on finding the right coach right now. The Texans have had a whacked-out organizational structure since Kubiak was hired and Casserly stepped down. Looking back, the set-up was ripe for power struggles and dysfunction behind the scenes, which is exactly what happened.

Above all else, Cal McNair needs to find the right guy to oversee the entire football structure. A strong president who leaves no doubt who is in charge and is known for player personnel and development. He'll understand player value and find talent all over. He won't throw away draft picks, but instead use those picks to maneuver in the draft for the guys he and his scouts covet. He won't give out bad contracts like Halloween candy. He'll hire the right guy to coach the team. That coach will know his job and answer to the President/GM. This team needs a total makeover and cultural change at the very top if they ever want to seriously compete for titles. I, for one, would prefer Cal McNair truly put his stamp on this team by starting right here. This is the guy they need. Find him.
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The Palcic firing last week and now a rumor over the weekend that they are actually considering Romeo as head coach next year. God we are pathetic.

 
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The Palcic firing last week and now a rumor over the weekend that they are actually considering Romeo as head coach next year. God we are pathetic.
Wish I wouldn't have said "cultural change" in my post a few spots above considering their reasoning in firing Palcic. At this point I'm just ready for Cal to sell the team. 

 

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