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Thanks to injuries and bye weeks I have to play Boston Scott or Matt Breida at RB2. Do we think Scott will see much action?
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2021 Philadelphia Eagles - Queued up a playlist of our greatest zits throughout the season for final game (2 Viewers)
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Insein
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With Sanders back, I don't know. I see this as Sanders and Howard with some Scott. Brieda at least seem to get goaline carries.
Bigboy10182000
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It’s totally unacceptable if they don’t win this game today.
Pigskin Fanatic
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not perfect by any means, but it's a beautiful day to see both Hurts and Sirianini show improvements and getting the team playing up to its potential. Still a whole lotta potential left to tap into too, it showed today.
that last quarter was ugly, will need to work on playing with a lead. a couple of drops by Goedert toward the end of third seem to swing the momentum a bit, but I won't put it on him. he and Hurts showed great connection today.
i missed why Slay went to the locker room, did he get hurt on the TD run, or was he even in the game any point after that?
that last quarter was ugly, will need to work on playing with a lead. a couple of drops by Goedert toward the end of third seem to swing the momentum a bit, but I won't put it on him. he and Hurts showed great connection today.
i missed why Slay went to the locker room, did he get hurt on the TD run, or was he even in the game any point after that?
Insein
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Bigboy10182000
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Definitely was and nice to see that the run game is legit against a legit defense.
There were a TON of injuries though and I really hope none are major.
Bigboy10182000
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It was in the 3rd quarter I believe. From what I recall it was on the big run by Ingram. Head to head contact on the block.
The Noid
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Carl Granderson just joined guys like Alge Crumpler, Reggie Bush, and Frank Gifford as a permanent fixture in Eagles highlights for the rest of eternity.
Bigboy10182000
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The play was sick. The best part about plays this good is the collective “OHHHHH” from 60,000 fans. The guy never even touched Hurts
Bigboy10182000
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“The Eagles now have two 40-points games in the last 4 weeks. They didn't have a single 40-point game in 2018, 2019 or 2020.”
All 3 first round picks better be defense.
All 3 first round picks better be defense.
unckeyherb
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I was in the corner that he scored (Eagles Side) about 15 rows back. None of us could explain what we saw in real time. It was literally unbelievable.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Being 'concerned' with consistency for a QB that hasn't started one full season yet is a little silly. It's ok to say he shows promise, but still has a ways to go in aspects of his game.
GoBirds
Footballguy
With our picks moving further back and with a weak QB class I think this is where I’m at too.
ETA if one of the better QB options are there for the last pick in the 1st depending on Hurts rest of the way I would consider. After the way this years QBs have tanked though we could probably wait later. I may also consider O line for one of them.
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Bigboy10182000
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modogg
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yeah, OL over QB i say. would rather trade one of the picks for some future picks too, but that is all roll of the dice.
Bigboy10182000
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Gotta say, the OL has been rock solid this year while missing both starting guards.
Bigboy10182000
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Definitely possible if that Miami pick ends up where a top QB is expected to go.
I may be conflicted on what to do there though.
Insein
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We're in a luxury spot now where we can take OL guys to develop in rounds 4-7. Stoutland has done wonders with that.
We absolutely need defense. CB, DE, DT, LB, S. We need playmakers at all spots. All 3 first rounders should be defense unless there's a can't miss stud WR to pair with Devonta.
We absolutely need defense. CB, DE, DT, LB, S. We need playmakers at all spots. All 3 first rounders should be defense unless there's a can't miss stud WR to pair with Devonta.
babydemon90
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While taking a WR in the first 3 straight years seems bonkers, with 3 picks in the first, I wouldn't complain if our lowest pick is used to get that Arkansas WR
Love the win, love the running....I think
Using Hurts TOO much in the run game. They seem to have gone in the opposite direction in the R/P ratio, and too reliant on HUrts' legs...it's a recipe for a quick shutdown and subsequent ugliness if he gets hurt, and how much is he progressing as a passer if he only throws it a dozen times? Is this a sustainable recipe or are they just covering up his deficiencies?
Not really trying to poopoo a beautiful win, but concerns remain
Using Hurts TOO much in the run game. They seem to have gone in the opposite direction in the R/P ratio, and too reliant on HUrts' legs...it's a recipe for a quick shutdown and subsequent ugliness if he gets hurt, and how much is he progressing as a passer if he only throws it a dozen times? Is this a sustainable recipe or are they just covering up his deficiencies?
Not really trying to poopoo a beautiful win, but concerns remain
Bigboy10182000
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Bigboy10182000
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I agree 100%. He took a decent amount of hits today because of it as well.
This is just the way we have to use him until he develops as a passer. He definitely seems to be staying in the pocket a tad longer the last couple games but he definitely gets squirrely back there when in a clean pocket.
My problem with this style is that those QB’s are rarely 100% healthy heading into the post season due to all the hits. Hopefully he can avoid ones like he took today for a while.
unckeyherb
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unckeyherb
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BPA at defense, defense, oline. That’s what I want in the draft. I’m convinced we can win with Jalen and the offense as it’s built.
babydemon90
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It's not sustainable - Defenses will shut it down (or at least contain it) as well, then we'll see if he can progress. They are absolutely covering up his deficiencies - but thats ok. I'd be surprised after this if they dont give him next year as well - but we'll expect more development as a passer, more ability to read the field, etc. Will he make a jump? I hope so! He definitely seems to have improved from last year.
DJackson10
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I would say the two guys who got the business from Mailata today. Dude clotheslined a guy, Davenport made a poor business move trying to fight him and before that Mailata went after Davenport to tell him he didn't appreciate him hitting his QB late out of bounds.
DJackson10
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He didn't play great but he also didn't play bad today. I just want to see more of what he was drafted to do which is throw the ball. Good for him on 3 rushing TDs but I'd rather my QB throwing 3 TDs or at least throw 2 and rush for one. I still noticed he missed a few open guys, missed Quiz wide open for possible 6 they settled for 3 on. He still panics when his first read isn't there.
He also runs around in the backfield too much for too long to my liking. Like just get rid of the ball. Also I like my QB getting physically from time to time but dude slide!!!!!!
Then the whole offense stalled in the 2nd half. Seems like if we do well first half we stall second half. We start slow first half then turn it on second half. THat's still troubling. Up until the 4th QTR TD I think I had heard we only had 16 yards of total offense in the 2nd half? Granted I was watching most of the game at work so maybe I heard that wrong, but it's concerning. Payton called that BS right before that drive for the screen hoping for the TD but settling for 6 because he didn't trust Hurts and the Eagles to ice the game. Thats the difference right now between Hurts and some of these other younger QBs right now. Until he develops more as a passer which we hope that will continue
We won a game we should've won today which counts. However I won't overreact and say this team is a certified playoff team because we beat a team who was essentially missing all of their top guys. We won a game we should win and last year would've probably lost. That's improvement for me.
Insein
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DJackson10
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It was a nice play but I saw a lot of stuff that would drive the best DC's crazy. DE overcommitted which was enough for Hurts to take him out of his shoes. Then the rest of the guys tried to arm tackle broke containment. Can't arm tackle a guy like Hurts.
DJackson10
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He's made a career of being inconsistent since College. Sorry if I'm still concerned with that. I agree it would be silly since hasn't played one full season but he was inconsistent as well in college.
Bigboy10182000
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Yep and that makes me feel good about the coaches too
If I’m going to be a little negative, we haven’t really beaten any good teams either. Our schedule is making us look a tad better than what we really are but I like the direction we’re heading in. Confidence and momentum can help.
DJackson10
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I can see two Defenders and then Maybe OL or an OL guy for Brooks and then other 2 defensive. However if one of the QBs falls to our 3rd pick I say you jump on it.
Bigboy10182000
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That’s the benefit from whipping their ### earlier in the game pounding the ball. It showed on that play.
DJackson10
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I can see two things happening there. We take the QB ourselves or one of them.
or
If we get good value on a trade and can snag a 1st next year plus more we trade it.
babydemon90
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True. We've beaten bad teams and average teams - which coming off a 4 win season and having to overhaul our roster - I'm ok with. Most of the good teams we played early on while we were still figuring things out.
What will be interesting is playing the Cowboys the last week - if they still have a reason to try to win that game, I'd love to see us put up a better showing. Don't think we'd win it - but it would be great to show some progress.
DJackson10
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Not sure what's out there FA wise.
CB has some what I'd call decent depth guys in the mid 20s. All the older guys are just names at this point A CB can be had in the 1st round though
Safety: Marcus Maye might be the top young guy but blew out a knee or something and is done for the year. Might be able to be had on a cheaper deal then before the injury and he's already told NYJ he wouldn't play under a franchise Tag. Quandree Diggs is also available. Marcus Williams of NO is also there. Kareem Jackson (I believe thats his name from ND) is the top guy in the draft but will probably be gone by the time we pick. There's some guys in the draft but it really depends how you feel or the Eagles do on them
LB: Hassan Reddick is a better version of what we got in Genard Avery. Guy who can play DE or OLD and is a local guy who went to Temple. I've been pounding the table for the Eagles to take him from Draft till the last time he hit FA. Jarrad Davis is a nice ILB but he's hurt a lot (Think Stewart Bradley talent but also injury history or Jordan Hicks). Rashan Evans is also available and local kid Alex Anzalone is available Outside. OLB has a lot of depth in the draft. ILB is pretty weak in the draft
DL: Solomon Thomas who can play both as a Cox role would be great at DE but most of the DE's are older and just names unless you want Clowney and his Barnett like Stupid plays. DT Vernon Butler, Quentin Jefferson available. Along with one of my favorites coming out of Florida Tavan Bryant who some thought had similar skill set as JJ Watt coming out. Not as talented but I also feel Jacksonville has stunted his growth and he could be a steal. Draft has 2 really good top DEs and then a lot of depth in the mid rounds. DT has solid depth too.
So way I see it it is that Draft Corner Go after one of Safeties and then draft a guy. LB sign one or two of the OLBs and then maybe sign a cheaper IL and take your chance of maybe hitting on a guy later in the draft. DL if you want to really build take Thomas at DE and one of Butler, Jefferson or Bryant and build around that with Josh Sweat on the other side.
DJackson10
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Starting to think they saw all they needed this year with his throwing and ar covering up some of his deficiencies for now as a passer. They are barely throwing it at all at this point. Seems like they just want Hurts to manage the game, what he gives them in the air is a plus rely on the run game and hope the defense is actually developing and progressing in a positive way.
DJackson10
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Dak was a pretty decent passer compared to Hurts at the time he was drafted. Dal then built from there. Don't think anyone expected DaK to put up the numbers he has so far. Since he's comeback from his injury he's been hot and cold though. A clunker today vs KC.
It's worked in Dal but they've relied a lot on Cooper in the past and now Lamb and lot on Zeke. If Zeke can't get going that offense usually struggles
DJackson10
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Yes I agree I just don't think the play was as amazing as some think it was. It was a beneficiary of running the ball and controlling the clock. 1st or second series of the game I think that play is stopped for no gain or a few yards.
DJackson10
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Like I stated already we are winning games we wouldn't have and should be that we didn't last year. Thats improvement and yes our schedule is making us look better then we've had. It also helps that NO is without all their impact players right now
modogg
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i think you need to start looking "glass half full" then always trying to point our his faults. Last few games he has made some significant progress with passes over the middle of the field and reading guys open. i know 1/3 of the fanbase was ripping for both of these earlier this season, and now he has shown significant progress in both areas.
Sure, he isn't top 2-3 QB right now, but his ability to read the field and game has been better than it was to start the season.
DJackson10
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Again I've seen him do this in College. He's always been Dr Jykell Mr Hyde. Progress maybe but you also have to see the teams he's played in that time span. At this stage of your career you shouldn't be having this much trouble as a passer or reading the field. Thats always been my issue drafting QBs with Hurts skill set. They always make cool highlight plays but in the end they don't win ya the games when it matters.
DJackson10
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Still shaking my head watching Jefferson again today while Reagor plays The Invisible Receiver act again.
DJackson10
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We're passionate and involved with our team. We might not all agree on everything but at least everyone is engaged and wants to participate. I've been on boards or in Facebook groups for sports teams and such where there's hardly ever any discussions and then when there is everyone agrees. The one guy who doesn't gets ganged up on and ends up leaving.
Long Ball Larry
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9-8 seems like a likely outcome.
interestingly, Eagles have tiebreakers with Saints, falcons and panthers, three teams right around them in record. Obviously the top 5 in the nfc are well above the Eagles but the rest? Why not us?
interestingly, Eagles have tiebreakers with Saints, falcons and panthers, three teams right around them in record. Obviously the top 5 in the nfc are well above the Eagles but the rest? Why not us?
drummer
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Insein
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