2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (2 Viewers)

[Frostillicus]

I could have done with not seeing how old George Karl looks.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I could have done with not seeing how old George Karl looks.

Does he have cancer?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I could have done with not seeing how old George Karl looks.

Yikes

 

[identikit]

A bit shaky there...

 

[trader jake]

I could have done with not seeing how old George Karl looks.

I'd still rather have him as head coach than Mark Jackson.

 

[Orange&Blue]

I could have done with not seeing how old George Karl looks.

Does he have cancer?

he did

 

[trader jake]

Tristan Thompson played a possession tonight. His defense just before half on Jokic was big. Watch out Rui!

 

[Courtjester]

I could have done with not seeing how old George Karl looks.

Does he have cancer?

I don’t know his current status, but he had it before.

 

[Courtjester]

LeBron’ is looking very tired. I’m sure LA will come out like gangbusters in game three but Denver just has to steal one there.

 

[msudaisy26]

I have never seen LeBron miss so many layups. I have never rooted for him, but he looked old out there tonight. I don't like it because now I feel old.

 

[ShamrockPride]

That was AD's down game. The bad news is that they wasted his 40 burger Tuesday.

 

[Major]

I think this Denver team might be pretty good.

I don’t even think Jimmy and his band of scrubs can beat them

 

[Gatorman]

I think this Denver team might be pretty good.

I don’t even think Jimmy and his band of scrubs can beat them

We have to get out of the Boston series but I always like the doubt right up to us stealing game one.

 

[Kev4029]

I think this Denver team might be pretty good.

I don’t even think Jimmy and his band of scrubs can beat them

We have to get out of the Boston series but I always like the doubt right up to us stealing game one.

Denver is a pitiful matchup for the Heat, if both teams were to get to the finals. Bam is a great defender, but he is not big enough to guard Jokic.

 

[Kev4029]

The crowd last night was the best crowd I have ever been a part of. My ears are still ringing this morning.

I thought Murray had one of his worst games I have ever seen, offensively and defensively, for the first three quarters, followed by possibly his best quarter ever both offensively and defensively. The Nuggets looked tired at the end of the game, but Davis and James looked absolutely exhausted. I think that bodes well for the next 2-5 games for the Nuggets.

 

[Desert_Power]

The Nuggets looked tired at the end of the game, but Davis and James looked absolutely exhausted. I think that bodes well for the next 2-5 games for the Nuggets.

Yeah. They gave a ton of effort to come up short twice. Feels like Denver will steal a game in LA.

 

[Kev4029]

The Nuggets looked tired at the end of the game, but Davis and James looked absolutely exhausted. I think that bodes well for the next 2-5 games for the Nuggets.

Yeah. They gave a ton of effort to come up short twice. Feels like Denver will steal a game in LA.

Fingers crossed. I think to win one of those two, the Nuggets need to either figure out how to make Gordon a part of the offense, or minimize his role a bit and play more KCP/Brown/Murray lineups.

 

[Capella]

Lebron 0-10 from three in these two games and shot 32% for the year from there. I’m surprised it’s not a bigger story that he keeps chucking those up. As good as he is he’s killing the team by insisting he can still make those consistently.

 

[Stoneworker]

Coach Malone after game to national media: "Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

 

[Jayrod]

Coach Malone after game to national media: "Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

He's rapidly becoming one of my favorite coaches. The raspy voice thing is cracking me up as well, although would be tough if he completely lost his voice

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

loved this

Jamal Murray points to Mike Breen and calls "BANG" after hitting the three

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1659418451830534144

 

[Kev4029]

Lebron 0-10 from three in these two games and shot 32% for the year from there. I’m surprised it’s not a bigger story that he keeps chucking those up. As good as he is he’s killing the team by insisting he can still make those consistently.

Last night he expended a TON of energy defensively and was pretty fantastic. Offensively, I don't think he had enough energy to attack so he was settling for bad jump shots but his legs are tired. He just can't bring it on both ends full time like he used to.

 

[Gatorman]

I think this Denver team might be pretty good.

I don’t even think Jimmy and his band of scrubs can beat them

We have to get out of the Boston series but I always like the doubt right up to us stealing game one.

Denver is a pitiful matchup for the Heat, if both teams were to get to the finals. Bam is a great defender, but he is not big enough to guard Jokic.

Ok, sure. Probably. Lets get there and then worry. Joker is soft and took a cheap shot on Markeef Morris last year after he thought the heat were being too physical with him and got suspended for it. This year they won by 4 in Miami when Miami was also without Herro and Oladipo and when Lowry was hurt and Love wasn't on the team.

Miami may not get out of this round bc Boston is a damn good team, but the best coach still in the playoffs is still on the Miami bench. Hopefully we get there bc it will be a fun series.

 

[Gatorman]

Lebron 0-10 from three in these two games and shot 32% for the year from there. I’m surprised it’s not a bigger story that he keeps chucking those up. As good as he is he’s killing the team by insisting he can still make those consistently.

I don't watch a lot of the west finals (Panthers baby!!!) but when I have tuned in I'm surprised that this incarnation of Lebron is so passive offensively. I guess I am just used to "heat" lebron when he was inevitable. Father time is undefeated

 

[caustic]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

“Gun jumping” is really starting early this year.

 

[Yo Mama]

LeBron and Davis had to use so much energy down the stretch of the season just to make the play-in, they look like they are gassed and have to pick their spots to use their energy right now. Would have been nice to steal one of those games in Denver, but the Nuggets have been coming up big when it counts #MagicTweet.

 

[thecatch]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Seems like a mean thing to do to Morey after all those years of Morey kissing his butt.

 

[trader jake]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Step 3, make her (Houston) open the box

 

[General Malaise]

Coach Malone after game to national media: "Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

If he works "take that to the bank" at any point, he will be my favorite coach in the history of sports.

 

[identikit]

Coach Malone after game to national media: "Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

If he works "take that to the bank" at any point, he will be my favorite coach in the history of sports.

'Brohan' would be cool

 

[Insein]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Good? Harden leaving will hurt us a bit for the regular season but paying him $200m for 4 years is ludicrous. Thank goodness James is taking the hard part away from Morey.

 

[Stoneworker]

Coach Malone after game to national media: "Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

If he works "take that to the bank" at any point, he will be my favorite coach in the history of sports.

He just might have it in the arsenal.

Malone was a gym rat teenager when his dad was right hand man for Chuck Daly during the Pistons' Bad Boys era.

So he's got an edge to him.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Good? Harden leaving will hurt us a bit for the regular season but paying him $200m for 4 years is ludicrous. Thank goodness James is taking the hard part away from Morey.

With cap rules etc., does Harden leaving help or hurt -- or do we need to do a sign and trade?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Seems like a mean thing to do to Morey after all those years of Morey kissing his butt.

I think it would be the nicest thing harden could do for the sixers, honestly.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Coach Malone after game to national media: "Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

If he works "take that to the bank" at any point, he will be my favorite coach in the history of sports.

the blood bank?

 

[millertyme1]

If Harden's gone, Embiid won't be far behind.

 

[the moops]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Good? Harden leaving will hurt us a bit for the regular season but paying him $200m for 4 years is ludicrous. Thank goodness James is taking the hard part away from Morey.

Harden had some stinkers but he pretty much single-handedly won two games against Boston. PHI may have gotten swept without him.

I wouldn’t want him on that contract either but the alternative is some MLE guy which is going to result in a worse team next year

 

[thecatch]

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Seems like a mean thing to do to Morey after all those years of Morey kissing his butt.

I think it would be the nicest thing harden could do for the sixers, honestly.

I've never been a Harden fan, but the Sixers don't seem to have any good way to replace him and Embiid turns 30 next year.

 

[Kev4029]

I think this Denver team might be pretty good.

I don’t even think Jimmy and his band of scrubs can beat them

We have to get out of the Boston series but I always like the doubt right up to us stealing game one.

Denver is a pitiful matchup for the Heat, if both teams were to get to the finals. Bam is a great defender, but he is not big enough to guard Jokic.

Ok, sure. Probably. Lets get there and then worry. Joker is soft and took a cheap shot on Markeef Morris last year after he thought the heat were being too physical with him and got suspended for it. This year they won by 4 in Miami when Miami was also without Herro and Oladipo and when Lowry was hurt and Love wasn't on the team.

Miami may not get out of this round bc Boston is a damn good team, but the best coach still in the playoffs is still on the Miami bench. Hopefully we get there bc it will be a fun series.

Murray and Gordon were both out as well for that game as well. Career h2h, Jokic is 10-2 against Adebayo with 22.2/11.6/6.8 on .634 TS%.

 

[Kev4029]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

 

[General Malaise]

If Harden's gone, Embiid won't be far behind.

Embiid to Portland would work.

Dame
Embiid
Grant
Sharpe
Me

That's a championship ring right there fellas and take that to the credit union, sisterlettos.

 

[ChicoCat]

Sixers letting Jimmy Butler walk will forever haunt this franchise.

Yea I mean that’s a pretty bad one. Hard to get past that. Especially for who they chose over him.

As a heat fan, I do love this, but unless Jimmy wins a title with Miami, I think both the sixers and jimmy lost out here. If the sixers and jimmy had worked something out, I think the sixers have at least one title by now, Jimmy has his legacy etc. etc. Now, one can say that if the heat win a title it will be "Jimmy's title" whereas if he won one in Philly it would be a validation of "THE PROCESS" or an Embiid title.

The Heat, their FO, and Spo all look great making this happen, of course, especially after lebron left, but this could be a circumstance of both the player and the original team losing ou due to ego.

I kind of agree and kind of don't. JJ Reddick interviewed Butler and he went in depth about his season in Philly. He disliked the coach and culture. I think if Butler is honest he would rather be happy in Miami without a title then unhappy Philly and with a title.

I think the reasons he didn't like the culture were because of Brown and Simmons. If they got rid of both of them (something they did to both within 2 years), he'd probably have been happier with Joel.

Probably, but if he stays you can't guarantee that they are gone. Butler might have covered up some of Brown's shortcomings as a coach. Simmons is probably still gone, but maybe with Butler being the leader Simmons doesn't crack under the pressure.

Ben Simmons would have cracked under the pressure of a leadership group comprised of Tom Brady, Winston Churchill and Leonidas of Sparta.

Keith Pompey (76ers beat reporter) saying that Harden is widely expected to return to Houston this summer.

Good? Harden leaving will hurt us a bit for the regular season but paying him $200m for 4 years is ludicrous. Thank goodness James is taking the hard part away from Morey.

With cap rules etc., does Harden leaving help or hurt -- or do we need to do a sign and trade?

They don't get all the money.....IIRC, they'll get enough for a mid-level contract. HOU doesn't have any reason to do a sign and trade....they are 50M under the cap.

 

[Anarchy99]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

Basketball is weird. Teams can't just sign free agents. Only teams under the cap can sign free agents directly. That won't be the Sixers. Teams over the cap can trade for players of similar value, so Philadelphia's best way to bring on someone new is through a sign and trade for Harden. As already mentioned, the Rockets have no incentive to do that with the 76ers. They can sign Harden and leave PHI out of it entirely if they want to. I don't know the Rockets roster or cap situation well enough to know if there is deadwood they might want to part with that they could send back to the Sixers in such a sign and trade scenario. But there really isn't much that HOU would get out of it to make it worth their while.

 

[Kev4029]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

Basketball is weird. Teams can't just sign free agents. Only teams under the cap can sign free agents directly. That won't be the Sixers. Teams over the cap can trade for players of similar value, so Philadelphia's best way to bring on someone new is through a sign and trade for Harden. As already mentioned, the Rockets have no incentive to do that with the 76ers. They can sign Harden and leave PHI out of it entirely if they want to. I don't know the Rockets roster or cap situation well enough to know if there is deadwood they might want to part with that they could send back to the Sixers in such a sign and trade scenario. But there really isn't much that HOU would get out of it to make it worth their while.

This offseason they are ****ed if Harden walks, but next offseason they'll have somewhere probably around $75M (minus minimum cap holds and Maxey's $13M cap hold). They have a tremendous amount of flexibility to remake their roster in a year, with a slightly better free agent class. If they were to resign Harden, I think they are punting on the future for next season, otherwise they are punting on next season for the future.

 

[thecatch]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

Basketball is weird. Teams can't just sign free agents. Only teams under the cap can sign free agents directly. That won't be the Sixers. Teams over the cap can trade for players of similar value, so Philadelphia's best way to bring on someone new is through a sign and trade for Harden. As already mentioned, the Rockets have no incentive to do that with the 76ers. They can sign Harden and leave PHI out of it entirely if they want to. I don't know the Rockets roster or cap situation well enough to know if there is deadwood they might want to part with that they could send back to the Sixers in such a sign and trade scenario. But there really isn't much that HOU would get out of it to make it worth their while.

This offseason they are ****ed if Harden walks, but next offseason they'll have somewhere probably around $75M (minus minimum cap holds and Maxey's $13M cap hold). They have a tremendous amount of flexibility to remake their roster in a year, with a slightly better free agent class. If they were to resign Harden, I think they are punting on the future for next season, otherwise they are punting on next season for the future.

Kind of depends on what kind of window you think Embiid has as an MVP-caliber player.

 

[Kev4029]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

Basketball is weird. Teams can't just sign free agents. Only teams under the cap can sign free agents directly. That won't be the Sixers. Teams over the cap can trade for players of similar value, so Philadelphia's best way to bring on someone new is through a sign and trade for Harden. As already mentioned, the Rockets have no incentive to do that with the 76ers. They can sign Harden and leave PHI out of it entirely if they want to. I don't know the Rockets roster or cap situation well enough to know if there is deadwood they might want to part with that they could send back to the Sixers in such a sign and trade scenario. But there really isn't much that HOU would get out of it to make it worth their while.

This offseason they are ****ed if Harden walks, but next offseason they'll have somewhere probably around $75M (minus minimum cap holds and Maxey's $13M cap hold). They have a tremendous amount of flexibility to remake their roster in a year, with a slightly better free agent class. If they were to resign Harden, I think they are punting on the future for next season, otherwise they are punting on next season for the future.

Kind of depends on what kind of window you think Embiid has as an MVP-caliber player.

Honestly, If the Sixers think his window is only the next year or two, they should trade him for the massive haul of players and picks they could potentially get. If they think it is 3-4+ years, I think taking a moderate step back to reload in '24 is the obvious answer, unless they can retain Harden on a jumbo one year extension.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

Basketball is weird. Teams can't just sign free agents. Only teams under the cap can sign free agents directly. That won't be the Sixers. Teams over the cap can trade for players of similar value, so Philadelphia's best way to bring on someone new is through a sign and trade for Harden. As already mentioned, the Rockets have no incentive to do that with the 76ers. They can sign Harden and leave PHI out of it entirely if they want to. I don't know the Rockets roster or cap situation well enough to know if there is deadwood they might want to part with that they could send back to the Sixers in such a sign and trade scenario. But there really isn't much that HOU would get out of it to make it worth their while.

This offseason they are ****ed if Harden walks, but next offseason they'll have somewhere probably around $75M (minus minimum cap holds and Maxey's $13M cap hold). They have a tremendous amount of flexibility to remake their roster in a year, with a slightly better free agent class. If they were to resign Harden, I think they are punting on the future for next season, otherwise they are punting on next season for the future.

Kind of depends on what kind of window you think Embiid has as an MVP-caliber player.

Honestly, If the Sixers think his window is only the next year or two, they should trade him for the massive haul of players and picks they could potentially get. If they think it is 3-4+ years, I think taking a moderate step back to reload in '24 is the obvious answer, unless they can retain Harden on a jumbo one year extension.

I agree with this and they can have cap space in 24. The one fly in the ointment is how many years can Joel be relied on to be at this level, so can you afford to skip a year?

I guess if harden were willing to take a deal of like 4 years for $150 or less, or even 3 years around the same money, it might be an option

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I think the Sixers best plan of action is to tough out next year without Harden and reload in 24-25 when hopefully the free agent class is better, the whole roster other than Embiid and Tucker (and presumably Maxey who, if they don't extend him, will have a cap hold of $13m) is off the books, and the cap will be a little up.

Basketball is weird. Teams can't just sign free agents. Only teams under the cap can sign free agents directly. That won't be the Sixers. Teams over the cap can trade for players of similar value, so Philadelphia's best way to bring on someone new is through a sign and trade for Harden. As already mentioned, the Rockets have no incentive to do that with the 76ers. They can sign Harden and leave PHI out of it entirely if they want to. I don't know the Rockets roster or cap situation well enough to know if there is deadwood they might want to part with that they could send back to the Sixers in such a sign and trade scenario. But there really isn't much that HOU would get out of it to make it worth their while.

Rockets have 0 dead wood contracts. Practically everyone is a rookie scale or close to it. I can’t imagine any sign and trade that would be feasible.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Oh yeah, kpj has that funky contract and has a decent salary for next year, but still nowhere near possible to make it work.