At first blush it seems like a bad trade for the Pistons. But if they can turn that cap space into something good while holding onto the #5 pick it might turn out ok. Small addition is the pistons go from 46 to 36 in the 2nd round this year.Frostillicus said:The 2025 first-round pick via Milwaukee is protected Nos. 1-4, sources said. Detroit sends Grant into a $21M trade exception, and Pistons now have $43 million in salary cap space for free agency.
Nice work by both sides.
Since they are keeping Lillard, they have to give him veteran help.I have no idea what Portland is doing.
ETA: I like it more for them than Detroit, I guess, just doesn't seem like they're going anywhere.
What about Ayton?Pistons better be using this money to make a run at Beal, Lavine or Bridges.
No way. Can't pay a big man the max money unless they are MVP caliber and Ayton isn't.What about Ayton?
Portland looking to acquire OG now...
![]()
Ayton would fit really well on the pistons. I hope they get him.No way. Can't pay a big man the max money unless they are MVP caliber and Ayton isn't.
Or the Pistons could use that pick to move up to 4 to guarantee one of the top 4 and I would be super happy.
If they want first round exits every year.Ayton would fit really well on the pistons. I hope they get him.
uke:
No thanks. Take Murray or Ivey and keep the assets.
From that Athletic article: “With the 2022 draft a day away, trading Grant would appear to signal that Iowa’s Keegan Murray is seriously being considered with Detroit’s fifth selection if he’s available. However, Purdue’s Jaden Ivey and Arizona’s Bennedict Mathurin remain in play.”I like Ivey a lot. Not Murray
From that Athletic article: “With the 2022 draft a day away, trading Grant would appear to signal that Iowa’s Keegan Murray is seriously being considered with Detroit’s fifth selection if he’s available. However, Purdue’s Jaden Ivey and Arizona’s Bennedict Mathurin remain in play.”
The Pistons are one of those teams I mentioned earlier that may prefer one of those wings to Ivey.
Pistons fan here … yea that trade sounds horrible for us. Hard to imagine that was the best offer out there.Love this trade by the Blazers.
Also from the Athletic: “It was widely expected and rumored that Grant would bring back, at minimum, a lottery-level pick in a deal. That, clearly, did not happen here, and, per sources, this deal is the best offer the Pistons have received on Grant, even dating back to February’s trade deadline.”Pistons fan here … yea that trade sounds horrible for us. Hard to imagine that was the best offer out there.
Come on over!The Detroit Pistons are expected to heavily pursue Phoenix big man Deandre Ayton, per James L. Edwards III of The Athletic.
The Pistons just dealt Jerami Grant to the Blazers for a 2025 first-round pick (via Milwaukee), so they have a bit more wiggle room than they did this morning. As it stands, Detroit has Isaiah Stewart as their center, but he had a down season at a time when many thought he would make a jump, so they’d likely have no problem placing him in a backup role if Ayton does end up in Motor City. The Pistons don’t have to use all of their $43 million worth of cap space this offseason though, so they could just take on some so-so contracts and collect more assets, but at least they’d be flexible. Ayton’s time in Phoenix has appeared as if it was over since Game 7 of the Western Conference Semifinals, and hopefully some deals are settled when the draft rolls around in about 24 hours
I am homeless. I need a team to adopt me.
No way they bring Russ in with Cade to poison that well. I think they are turning the keys over to Cade next year with with Bey, Stewart, Hayes, Ayton and Mathurin to develop with.The Grant deal has to be a str8up salary dump cuz, like daisy said, they were offered better. all of those, however, included taking on some salary. it could be Ayton, i guess, but i'm wondering about sumn else...
Pistons going nowhere this season. Were they to take on Westbrook contract, they could flame out with his uptempo nonsense, the spotlight be off their guys, they'd learn a little highlife, get good shots while he takes his bad and be farther along and a coupla future firsts up when all was said & done. is taking a year to find a good way to play bad just stoopit enuff?
Spurs looking for a "Jrue Holiday-like" package to trade Murray. Which is essential 2 unprotected firsts and 2 first round pick swaps.
Am I crazy for wanting the Wolves to do this? Malike Beasley or Pat Bev match Murray, or they could send D'Lo's expiring to take on Murray, Poeltl, and Jason Richardson if they Spurs are going to blow it all up.
Westboogie can really only poison an established team. he plays superhard (was a net pos til the playoffs with the Wiz), gives the Pistons a year to figure out if their mebbes like Beefstew, Lefty & Bags are anything while CC grows his gameNo way they bring Russ in with Cade to poison that well. I think they are turning the keys over to Cade next year with with Bey, Stewart, Hayes, Ayton and Mathurin to develop with.
Is he willing to share the ball with Cade, let it be his team? Gives me bad vibes.Westboogie can really only poison an established team. he plays superhard (was a net pos til the playoffs with the Wiz), gives the Pistons a year to figure out if their mebbes like Beefstew, Lefty & Bags are anything while CC grows his game
it's perverse, but a young player could learn a LOT about what to do and not do from Russ.Is he willing to share the ball with Cade, let it be his team? Gives me bad vibes.
I don't mean to pooh-pooh this deal for Portland, but isn't Robert Covington (who Portland traded away for a sack of fleas) a much better version of Jeremi Grant? What am I missing?
Spurs looking for a "Jrue Holiday-like" package to trade Murray. Which is essential 2 unprotected firsts and 2 first round pick swaps.
Am I crazy for wanting the Wolves to do this? Malike Beasley or Pat Bev match Murray, or they could send D'Lo's expiring to take on Murray, Poeltl, and Jason Richardson if they Spurs are going to blow it all up.
Huh? Why would it mean that?Frostillicus said:Does this mean Bobby Portis is in play? Wolves would take him.
Ahhh, OK, that explains the Portis question...I read that as Grant to Milwaukee. Not as thrilled with it for Portland.
I still think you’re underestimating his value on the open market. Bucks don’t have full Bird rights either.Huh? Why would it mean that?
Portis is widely expected to opt out and then re-sign to a longer-term deal with Milwaukee.
I think you're underestimating how much Bobby Portis loves it in Milwaukee. For some of these guys (see Connaughton, Pat), it's not about getting every penny they can get, especially when (1) you have the opportunity to play alongside a generational talent like Giannis and (2) the city absolutely worships you.I still think you’re underestimating his value on the open market. Bucks don’t have full Bird rights either.
We’ll see in a week.
You really wonder what Portland's doing. Dumped McCollum. Dumped Covington. Dumped Norm Powell. Dumped Derrick Jones.
Then a few months later acquire Grant. Looking to acquire Og.
Edit: I'd be cashing in on Lillard now. JMO His window to win there is closed.
Totally agree, but the time to cash in Lillard was last off-season. He had so much more value and I think Portland knows that so they decided to go all in with Lillard instead of taking less. I don't agree with it, but you never know.
Agree it was last offseason. He wasn't Dame people accustomed to last season.Totally agree, but the time to cash in Lillard was last off-season. He had so much more value and I think Portland knows that so they decided to go all in with Lillard instead of taking less. I don't agree with it, but you never know.