2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (3 Viewers)

[Alex P Keaton]

Man I hate to see Steph and Wiggins out in round 2, but I sure do enjoy all the other Warriors losing.

It will be fun to watch LeBron lose to the Nuggets.

I don't know who can beat the Nuggets right now. They look like a well oiled machine. I think Jokic is going to wear Davis out.

I'm excited for that series. In the bubble AD and LeBron pulled it off. I think the supporting casts are better for Denver and worse for LA, but the core stars are the same. Should be an interesting series.

Also if Boston can pull it off in Game 7, we get the same final four as bubble season.

Interesting, yeah. Hadn’t realized that.
The NBA would loovvvve to have a Celtics-Lakers final…..

 

[FatMax]

Warriors need to do some on the fly reloading if they want to try to win another title with Curry. Will be interesting to see if they just run it back or retool.

Gotta believe Poole is gone

Probably, but if it was me I would try to move Green or let him walk, then turn Klay into a 6th man and resign him cheaply. I would try to fix Poole because he was so good last year and is so young.

If they move Poole he is the type of guy all the non free agent destinations need to gamble on.

Green has a player option at 27 mil. He's bigger idiot than I thought if he doesn't exercise it. And Poole is overpaid. If they can get rid of him, at best it will be a few expiring contracts in return. But how does that help?

 

[Desert_Power]

Warriors need to do some on the fly reloading if they want to try to win another title with Curry. Will be interesting to see if they just run it back or retool.

Gotta believe Poole is gone

Probably, but if it was me I would try to move Green or let him walk, then turn Klay into a 6th man and resign him cheaply. I would try to fix Poole because he was so good last year and is so young.

If they move Poole he is the type of guy all the non free agent destinations need to gamble on.

Draymond can still opt in right?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Warriors need to do some on the fly reloading if they want to try to win another title with Curry. Will be interesting to see if they just run it back or retool.

Gotta believe Poole is gone

Probably, but if it was me I would try to move Green or let him walk, then turn Klay into a 6th man and resign him cheaply. I would try to fix Poole because he was so good last year and is so young.

If they move Poole he is the type of guy all the non free agent destinations need to gamble on.

Green has a player option at 27 mil. He's bigger idiot than I thought if he doesn't exercise it. And Poole is overpaid. If they can get rid of him, at best it will be a few expiring contracts in return. But how does that help?

Poole is terrible. He’s a net negative at this point.

Even in garbage time he sucks. Taking awful shots back to back to back. His basketball IQ seemingly goes down every week.

 

[Jayrod]

Lakers shot 42 FTs tonight (could still get more).

 

[trader jake]

Poole is terrible. He’s a net negative at this point.

He's just not a 16 game player.

 

[Yo Mama]

Denver has a huge home court advantage, but Lakers haven’t lost at home since March.

I still think Denver wins fairly easily though.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Lakers were impressive tonight. They played both sides of the court in attack mode. Their defense against Steph was very tough and disciplined. They have a lot of players that are playing pretty confidently right now. Lebron, Davis, Reeves, D’Angelo, Lonnie..etc. I think that earlier in the thread somebody said the Nuggets would handle the Lakers in 5. I don’t agree with that. I expect it to be a very competitive series.

 

[msudaisy26]

Last year Green said he was opting out and wanted a new max deal. Have things changed? Yeah we all think so, but does Green? Who knows.

 

[msudaisy26]

Lakers were impressive tonight. They played both sides of the court in attack mode. Their defense against Steph was very tough and disciplined. They have a lot of players that are playing pretty confidently right now. Lebron, Davis, Reeves, D’Angelo, Lonnie..etc. I think that earlier in the thread somebody said the Nuggets would handle the Lakers in 5. I don’t agree with that. I expect it to be a very competitive series.

I think they Lakers defense was okay tonight, the Warriors missed a ton of open shots and as usual a lot of their turnovers were unforced and careless. On offense they were awesome.

 

[Yo Mama]

First time the Kerr-coached Warriors have lost in the Western Conference playoffs (were 19-0 previously)

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Lakers were impressive tonight. They played both sides of the court in attack mode. Their defense against Steph was very tough and disciplined. They have a lot of players that are playing pretty confidently right now. Lebron, Davis, Reeves, D’Angelo, Lonnie..etc. I think that earlier in the thread somebody said the Nuggets would handle the Lakers in 5. I don’t agree with that. I expect it to be a very competitive series.

I think they Lakers defense was okay tonight, the Warriors missed a ton of open shots and as usual a lot of their turnovers were unforced and careless. On offense they were awesome.

I agree that Klay missed a bunch of shots he normally hits with a higher percentage—but I think the Lakers did a wonderful job making life difficult for Steph. A lot of his makes came from broken plays off of offensive rebounds and such. The Lakers primary defense on him I thought was very solid Imo. With all of that said—I think that the Lakers are sneaky deep much like the Nuggets. I think the series will go at least 6 and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Lakers win it.

 

[Insein]

Seeing other teams close out their game 6's makes the Sixers collapse all the more painful.

 

[Frostillicus]

I love Lebron so much.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Love,
Mookie Betts and Tom Brady (who ran like hell, given the chance/choice)

Tom Brady re-signed with the Pats like three or four times when he had the "chance." And I hate the Patriots, but per usual, you're just...

Per usual, your process stinks.

First of all, none of that changes the fact he left New England for Tampa. Did he not?

And what part of the "process stinks", exactly? What does that mean. Explain yourself. That's what happened, whether you like it or not. Same goes for Mookie.

It's like you're offended. Did Brady and Mookie leave? Yes or no? However you want to spin it, they bailed. So go on, explain your "process" (position), as you'd like to call it. I'll listen.

And leave the thinly veiled personal attacks out of the discussion, if you don't mind.

 

[rockaction]

Signing about three contracts while one is a free agent is not "running like hell."

Betts got traded and signed an extension with the Dodgers. He didn't run like hell to anything.

It's not a personal attack -- your process and premises through which you make your conclusion that they "ran like hell" stinks.

 

[Capella]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

By far, the funniest subtitles this board has ever seen.

Whoever you are Capella, know that you could write for SNF. Like, no question. Well done, as always.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Lakers GM made all the right moves in-season to get the right pieces/role players around AD and Lebron. What a turnaround.

 

[Insein]

By far, the funniest subtitles this board has ever seen.

Whoever you are Capella, know that you could write for SNF. Like, no question. Well done, as always.

Yea but that's not the accolade it used to be 20+ years ago.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

It's pretty insane. The whole stupid "LeBron vs MJ" have made so many MJ disciples dig their heels in to where they refuse to acknowledge or simply cannot see the greatness of James.

 

[identikit]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

Do you really think that they have a “huge” amount of work to do? I’m not sure any of the turmoil they had to push through this season was talent based—it was more drama and injury ridden. They started the year with the Draymond/Poole incident. Then Wiggins missed a lot of time with some sort of personal matter that fed into a lot of rumors being spread. Wiggins basically came back right before or right at the playoffs. He then gets hurt before an elimination game—and consequently the Warriors get blown out on the road against a Laker team that has been exceptionally good since the trade deadline when healthy. When you say “ a huge amount of work” to retool quickly—are you talking about major roster transformation?

My personal take is that they are probably one or two mild to moderate changes away from being considered a legit contender in the near term. I think their biggest amount of work is actually needed for the medium to long term. Curry and Klay are not getting younger. Wiggins has some years left—but he’s more of a third or fourth option on a contending team. Poole has talent but is erratic. I think their biggest decision is to evaluate if they need to make moves to continue staying solid for the next few years or to start focusing on building for the future.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

Pfft, still has never beaten the ‘91 pistons

 

[Desert_Power]

Warriors need to do some on the fly reloading if they want to try to win another title with Curry. Will be interesting to see if they just run it back or retool.

Gotta believe Poole is gone

How? Who willingly takes that contract?

Would have to be someone else with a bad contract I assume. Poole for Gobert? No, I think the Ws are probably going to run it back. Really would have helped them the not whiff on the #2 pick in 2020.

 

[identikit]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

Do you really think that they have a “huge” amount of work to do? I’m not sure any of the turmoil they had to push through this season was talent based—it was more drama and injury ridden. They started the year with the Draymond/Poole incident. Then Wiggins missed a lot of time with some sort of personal matter that fed into a lot of rumors being spread. Wiggins basically came back right before or right at the playoffs. He then gets hurt before an elimination game—and consequently the Warriors get blown out on the road against a Laker team that has been exceptionally good since the trade deadline when healthy. When you say “ a huge amount of work” to retool quickly—are you talking about major roster transformation?

My personal take is that they are probably one or two mild to moderate changes away from being considered a legit contender in the near term. I think their biggest amount of work is actually needed for the medium to long term. Curry and Klay are not getting younger. Wiggins has some years left—but he’s more of a third or fourth option on a contending team. Poole has talent but is erratic. I think their biggest decision is to evaluate if they need to make moves to continue staying solid for the next few years or to start focusing on building for the future.

At first blush:

Draymond has to (most likely) go

Kuminga and/or Moody need to have bigger roles or move them out

More height with a defensive bent is needed; they're getting out-physicalled routinely

The missed games due to injury is unlikely to be less as the years progress with an aging team.

I'm really no expert at all this though.

That's why I'm in this thread

 

[Gatorman]

Not a flagrant.

Scott Foster trying to bring it closer though.

Heat beat the knicks and foster at home which is an amazing feat. the streak is in tact of the heat not covering when foster is the ref but 5.5 gave the heat a middle ground to win and nit cover so the bettors and heat fans are happy.

kudos to the knicks. They do have a team now that can contend. Not sure if thibs enhances or hampers their chances of getting to the finals as his teams tend to overachieve in the regular season and under in the post.

lebron is not going to go quietly. Lakers vs Miami or Boston are the best matchups for the NBA so it will likely end up as Philly vs Denver.

 

[thecatch]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

Hollinger has a pretty gloomy article on their future prospects in the Athletic this morning. Will be fascinating to see how they approach the offseason.

 

[thecatch]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

Do you really think that they have a “huge” amount of work to do? I’m not sure any of the turmoil they had to push through this season was talent based—it was more drama and injury ridden. They started the year with the Draymond/Poole incident. Then Wiggins missed a lot of time with some sort of personal matter that fed into a lot of rumors being spread. Wiggins basically came back right before or right at the playoffs. He then gets hurt before an elimination game—and consequently the Warriors get blown out on the road against a Laker team that has been exceptionally good since the trade deadline when healthy. When you say “ a huge amount of work” to retool quickly—are you talking about major roster transformation?

My personal take is that they are probably one or two mild to moderate changes away from being considered a legit contender in the near term. I think their biggest amount of work is actually needed for the medium to long term. Curry and Klay are not getting younger. Wiggins has some years left—but he’s more of a third or fourth option on a contending team. Poole has talent but is erratic. I think their biggest decision is to evaluate if they need to make moves to continue staying solid for the next few years or to start focusing on building for the future.

At first blush:

Draymond has to (most likely) go

Kuminga and/or Moody need to have bigger roles or move them out

More height with a defensive bent is needed; they're getting out-physicalled routinely

The missed games due to injury is unlikely to be less as the years progress with an aging team.

I'm really no expert at all this though.

That's why I'm in this thread

In the aforementioned Hollinger article, he suggested waiving and stretching Klay and re-signing him to a minimum deal. That screws up their tax for the next couple of years but lets them get under the second apron this offseason (so they can use a taxpayer midlevel and do sign and trades).

 

[Yo Mama]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

Do you really think that they have a “huge” amount of work to do? I’m not sure any of the turmoil they had to push through this season was talent based—it was more drama and injury ridden. They started the year with the Draymond/Poole incident. Then Wiggins missed a lot of time with some sort of personal matter that fed into a lot of rumors being spread. Wiggins basically came back right before or right at the playoffs. He then gets hurt before an elimination game—and consequently the Warriors get blown out on the road against a Laker team that has been exceptionally good since the trade deadline when healthy. When you say “ a huge amount of work” to retool quickly—are you talking about major roster transformation?

My personal take is that they are probably one or two mild to moderate changes away from being considered a legit contender in the near term. I think their biggest amount of work is actually needed for the medium to long term. Curry and Klay are not getting younger. Wiggins has some years left—but he’s more of a third or fourth option on a contending team. Poole has talent but is erratic. I think their biggest decision is to evaluate if they need to make moves to continue staying solid for the next few years or to start focusing on building for the future.

At first blush:

Draymond has to (most likely) go

Kuminga and/or Moody need to have bigger roles or move them out

More height with a defensive bent is needed; they're getting out-physicalled routinely

The missed games due to injury is unlikely to be less as the years progress with an aging team.

I'm really no expert at all this though.

That's why I'm in this thread

In the aforementioned Hollinger article, he suggested waiving and stretching Klay and re-signing him to a minimum deal. That screws up their tax for the next couple of years but lets them get under the second apron this offseason (so they can use a taxpayer midlevel and do sign and trades).

Yeah, the changes in the new CBA (which I still don’t fully understand) will be rough on the big spenders like the Warriors and Clippers.

 

[Yo Mama]

By far, the funniest subtitles this board has ever seen.

Whoever you are Capella, know that you could write for SNF. Like, no question. Well done, as always.

Sunday Night Football?

 

[msudaisy26]

I bagged on Poole as much as anyone, but it was one bad playoffs. He was very good during the season, very good last year (in the playoffs and regular season) and is young. The Warriors and Poole should use this as a learning experience. If they don't I hope the Pistons go get him.

 

[thecatch]

IHe was very good during the season, .

Was he though?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

Pfft, still has never beaten the ‘91 pistons

This is funny but you must also factor that one of the most physically gifted players in history is playing against the least physical era in the sports history.

Lebron played great last night.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Kind of relieved the Warriors are done.

As a (mostly) Warriors fan, it was excruciating to watch/follow them this season.

Their brand of basketball brought me back to the NBA

Thankful for that.

They have a huge amount of work to do in order to re-tool quickly. If they can.

Do you really think that they have a “huge” amount of work to do? I’m not sure any of the turmoil they had to push through this season was talent based—it was more drama and injury ridden. They started the year with the Draymond/Poole incident. Then Wiggins missed a lot of time with some sort of personal matter that fed into a lot of rumors being spread. Wiggins basically came back right before or right at the playoffs. He then gets hurt before an elimination game—and consequently the Warriors get blown out on the road against a Laker team that has been exceptionally good since the trade deadline when healthy. When you say “ a huge amount of work” to retool quickly—are you talking about major roster transformation?

My personal take is that they are probably one or two mild to moderate changes away from being considered a legit contender in the near term. I think their biggest amount of work is actually needed for the medium to long term. Curry and Klay are not getting younger. Wiggins has some years left—but he’s more of a third or fourth option on a contending team. Poole has talent but is erratic. I think their biggest decision is to evaluate if they need to make moves to continue staying solid for the next few years or to start focusing on building for the future.

At first blush:

Draymond has to (most likely) go

Kuminga and/or Moody need to have bigger roles or move them out

More height with a defensive bent is needed; they're getting out-physicalled routinely

The missed games due to injury is unlikely to be less as the years progress with an aging team.

I'm really no expert at all this though.

That's why I'm in this thread

In the aforementioned Hollinger article, he suggested waiving and stretching Klay and re-signing him to a minimum deal. That screws up their tax for the next couple of years but lets them get under the second apron this offseason (so they can use a taxpayer midlevel and do sign and trades).

Yeah, the changes in the new CBA (which I still don’t fully understand) will be rough on the big spenders like the Warriors and Clippers.

I don't fully understand either, but Dan Feldman mentioned initially that in some ways the Warriors and Clippers would have a short-term advantage because they are the only ones who even legally have their team salary be as high as it is. No one else will be able to get there, so they might be able to use those pre-existing salary slots to their advantage.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

Pfft, still has never beaten the ‘91 pistons

This is funny but you must also factor that one of the most physically gifted players in history is playing against the least physical era in the sports history.

Lebron played great last night.

less physical <> easier

 

[Yo Mama]

I was talking with my son about how crazy the impact of a one-game playin will have.

In the West, if the Wolves just make a shot or two down the stretch against the Lakers:
- The Nuggets/Lakers matchup is in the first round instead of the conference finals
- Instead of all the talk about blowing up their teams, the trajectory of the Warriors and Grizzlies would be completely different after an epic second round series with one of them going to the conference finals
- If the Wolves upset the short-handed Grizz, how different do we think of them right now
- Suns still lose embarrassingly at home in the second round

In the East, if the Zombie Heat turn into the Super Heat a game earlier and somehow don’t lose to the fricking Hawks:
- Are the Buckos waiting for the winner of the Sixers/Celtics right now?
- Do these Celtics even get past the Heat in the first round?

 

[Major]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

I’ll never get the hate for Lebron other than folks who just dislike winners. I’ll always have the utmost respect for anyone that can get me to root for the Lakers. Doubt we ever see a player of this caliber again in our lifetime. Enjoy it while he’s still here.

 

[Anarchy99]

I thought I read that GS will have even worse cap and tax problems next year, especially if Green opts in. Klay has said he wants a max deal. IIRC, Poole's extension kicks in next year. If they run it back, it is estimated between salary and luxury tax, the Warriors would have to shell out $500+ million. Not sure that is financially feasible and how much moving some players would help them.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I thought I read that GS will have even worse cap and tax problems next year, especially if Green opts in. Klay has said he wants a max deal. IIRC, Poole's extension kicks in next year. If they run it back, it is estimated between salary and luxury tax, the Warriors would have to shell out $500+ million. Not sure that is financially feasible and how much moving some players would help them.

Klay wants a max deal. But who cares what he wants? Dude isn’t that good anymore.

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[Capella]

Poole getting 28M next year is hysterical. If he had turned that down and hit the market would he have got half of that? Smart of him to take that deal at least.

 

[Desert_Power]

If you’re a Lebron hater you have to be so mad right now. This man won’t stop.

I’ll never get the hate for Lebron other than folks who just dislike winners. I’ll always have the utmost respect for anyone that can get me to root for the Lakers. Doubt we ever see a player of this caliber again in our lifetime. Enjoy it while he’s still here.

And to see him doing it against another all-time great like Curry and now going up against Jokic. This is as good as it gets fellas.

 

[Gr00vus]

You have to give Anthony Davis a lot of credit for the Lakers making it this far as well.

 

[scoobus]

Warriors need to do some on the fly reloading if they want to try to win another title with Curry. Will be interesting to see if they just run it back or retool.

Gotta believe Poole is gone

How? Who willingly takes that contract?

Would have to be someone else with a bad contract I assume. Poole for Gobert? No, I think the Ws are probably going to run it back. Really would have helped them the not whiff on the #2 pick in 2020.

Or the #7 and #14 picks in 2021.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Damn, game tomorrow is 330. They mentioned it would be 8 tomorrow on the late game's broadcast last night. People gonna be doing stuff in the afternoon for Mother's Day.

 

[Anarchy99]

Damn, game tomorrow is 330. They mentioned it would be 8 tomorrow on the late game's broadcast last night. People gonna be doing stuff in the afternoon for Mother's Day.

It was only going to be at 8:00 if the GS/LAL series also got to a Game 7.

 

[Desert_Power]

No basketball today?

 

[The Z Machine]

No basketball today?

I know. Lame. Feels like the break in world cup after the first and second round.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Y’all are gonna really hate Monday

 

[msudaisy26]

Warriors need to do some on the fly reloading if they want to try to win another title with Curry. Will be interesting to see if they just run it back or retool.

Gotta believe Poole is gone

How? Who willingly takes that contract?

Would have to be someone else with a bad contract I assume. Poole for Gobert? No, I think the Ws are probably going to run it back. Really would have helped them the not whiff on the #2 pick in 2020.

Or the #7 and #14 picks in 2021.

Did they really miss though? It is very early and it isn't like the guys right after them are lighting the league on fire.