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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (4 Viewers)

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Sixers just will be hard pressed to ever overcoming letting Butler go. They should have traded Simmons at that time. Instead they wasted that season signing Horford and letting Redick walk.
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Sixers just will be hard pressed to ever overcoming letting Butler go. They should have traded Simmons at that time. Instead they wasted that season signing Horford and letting Redick walk.
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I think everyone knows that Philly made a mistake of choosing Ben over Butler. I don't see what the point is of everyone acting like they're the first person to have that thought and posting it lol
 
Yo Mama said:
While we’re waiting for the start of Bubble 2: Electric Bugaloo, here is what I’m rooting for in Tuesdays draft lottery (the biggest lottery since LeBron’s?):

Pick 1 - Orlando - could you imagine a Victor, Paolo, Franz front line? Plus F all those other teams that intentionally tanked for Webmanyama.

Pick 2 - Detroit - I guess

Pick 3 - Chicago - not that I root for the Bulls necessarily, but this would mean a team jumped over Dallas and the Mavs lose their pick. Just for the LOLs.
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Orlando has had too many #1 picks over the years IMO.
 
Hoping for BOS-DEN

I'd be stunned if Lakers get past Denver. I think they'll bury the Lakers/AD with Jokic-Murray high screens (along with great movement w/o the ball).

Murray isn't Curry but both Denver parts (ball handler & screener) can sink shots unlike GS.
 
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mr. furley said:
Harden 3 pts on 1-3 shooting in the 2nd half.

1 assist and 1 rebound in the 2nd half as well.

remarkable performance right out in front of the entire basketball viewing nation. absolutely amazing that someone can just so nakedly quit on their team with no regard. just an incredible outing.
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That will be Harden's legacy. Well...that, his beard, and his team's win% in specific cities being relative to the quality of gentleman's clubs in that area.
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I’m taking a month off from work this summer. When my family asks what I’m doing with the time……”I’m going on the James Harden US Tour.”
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That works.

Don't forget to quit at some point though. Looking exhausted near the end should be the much easier part of that particular tour.
 
msudaisy26 said:
I can't fathom any team offering Harden 3 at 100 million.
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I’m not sure where the numbers needs to be for him to opt out (less than 3/100 I’m sure) but I’m reconsidering my assumption that an opt-out is a foregone conclusion. He might have played himself out of big contract in these last weeks.
 
Harden definitely opts out. I'd be surprised if he got less than 4/160 somewhere. Structure end of deal with a partial/non guarantee perhaps.
 
Didn't look for/click on it, but apparently Ben Simmons did a troll job on Philly's loss, complete with champagne

What a piece of ****
 
Honest question. Embiid is the mvp. assuming he wants out after this would Philly consider it? And what would it take?
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Harden definitely opts out. I'd be surprised if he got less than 4/160 somewhere. Structure end of deal with a partial/non guarantee perhaps.
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I’m struggling to figure out who other than perhaps the Sixers would sign him to that. There was some speculation that he might go back to Houston but timelines don’t match there.

Harden seems so obviously in speedy decline. Everyone should see that.
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
I'd be stunned if Lakers get past Denver. I think they'll bury the Lakers/AD with Jokic-Murray high screens (along with great movement w/o the ball).
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Yea and that’s going to wear AD out for the offensive end.

I don’t see how anybody beats Denver. Their offense is just off the charts good.
 
Versus the, Celtics Harden was an all-star level player in their wins; single handedly won game 1, had a monster 42 pt game in game 4 and was efficient and good in game 5. Yes he is inconsistent and had bad games 6 & 7, but they don't even get to a game 7 without Harden.

He is a decent #2 and would be a stellar 3rd option at this stage in his career. If you don't have to rely on him to win you games and doesn't break the bank, he is absolutely still a very valuable player.
 
Harden was tied for 13th in VORP with AD and LeBron. He was 18th in Win Shares, 20th in WS/48, and 25th in PER. Some team will consider him and pay him as a Top 20-25 player.
 
Speaking of advanced stats.

I'll give everyone one guess at who is leading the playoffs in PER, VORP, WS, WS/48 and BPM.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Harden was tied for 13th in VORP with AD and LeBron. He was 18th in Win Shares, 20th in WS/48, and 25th in PER. Some team will consider him and pay him as a Top 20-25 player.
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That's the thing with Harden though, he'll put up stats. Always has, probably always will. Looking good analytically is only one part of the equation though. He hasn't shown up when it matters most in the playoffs time after time after time.

Harden's game 1 performance was MVP quality. That's his track record though - show up big early in a series, fade, then belly flop out. He scored 0 4th quarter points in games 5-7. That's just who he has been.

Harden's only chance to save his career narrative is to end up on a team ready to win it all and contribute to a championship. Specifically by coming up big in the clutch of games 5-7 or hitting a monumental shot in the Heat Ray Allen or Cavs Kyrie Irving mold. Unless that happens, the James Harden basketball story can already be written.
 
The give and take with Harden is he is probably a top 15 floor raiser in the NBA - so he's a great fit for a mediocre team trying to be playoff competitive. But he is also not a ceiling raiser and he doesn't scale well on a better team because he's a poor spot up shooter and obviously doesn't defend worth a ****. At his peak in the mid to late '10s, he was probably one of the best 10 or so floor raisers of all time. He would be perfect in Washington or Charlotte where all they want is to be the sixth seed for the next three years.
 
Another reason why Doc should be fired. Game 6 Philly gets a clear path foul and Boston and Tatum fight battle.through for victory. Boston gets a generous flagrant 1 in the second quarter and then Philly pretty much gave up. They were up like 7 or 8 when it was called to down 3 at the half and down a million at the end of the 3rd.

That is all coaching.
 
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
 
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The give and take with Harden is he is probably a top 15 floor raiser in the NBA - so he's a great fit for a mediocre team trying to be playoff competitive. But he is also not a ceiling raiser and he doesn't scale well on a better team because he's a poor spot up shooter and obviously doesn't defend worth a ****. At his peak in the mid to late '10s, he was probably one of the best 10 or so floor raisers of all time. He would be perfect in Washington or Charlotte where all they want is to be the sixth seed for the next three years.
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Charlotte does not have good enough strip clubs to get Harden
 
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MBA. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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Embiid looked lost. You could feel him getting crushed by the pressure.
 
The definitive ranking of potential Wembanyama destinations. tl;dr I'll probably be mildly disappointed by tomorrow's results.

1. Oklahoma City (1.7% chance) - Wembanyama would be absolutely perfect for the 5-out style that OKC wants to play, immediately making them one of the most fun young teams in the league.
2. Portland (10.5% chance) - Wemby is exactly the kind of two-way rim protector that this roster needs. He and Lillard would be a blast, but this would still be fun if they trade Dame and move forward with a core of Wembanyana, Simons, and Shaedon.
3. Indiana (6.8% chance) - It would be great to see Indiana add a second star to play with Tyrese Haliburton, who I adore.
4. New Orleans (0.5% chance) - Since day 1, New Orleans has needed a stretch 5 to maximize Zion, so Victor would be perfect (just unlikely). Would be #2 on this list if not for Zion's health concerns.
5. Utah (4.5% chance) - Defensively, a frontcourt of Wembanyama and Walker Kessler would be filthy. The Jazz have plenty of future assets and would now have a young centerpiece to build around.
6. Orlando (9.0% chance) - The Magic have had their fair share of lotto luck recently so I'd prefer to see another team win it all. That being said, they would be absolutely loaded after adding Wembanyama to their young core.
7. Toronto (1.0% chance) - The Raptors are at a bit of a crossroads with this roster, and landing Wembanyama would give them a clearer direction. Victor's frontcourt shooting alleviates some of the issues created by Scottie Barnes's offense.
8. Charlotte (12.5% chance) - I think going to a team with a good PG would help maximize Victor's early years -- a Lamelo/Wembanyama pairing would be very fun.
9. San Antonio (14.0% chance) - Wemby would be a great retirement gift for Pop, and given the Spurs' track record of drafting/development, I'm relatively confident in their ability to build around him.
10. Detroit (14.0% chance) - Compared to the Spurs, Detroit has a more interesting young core but less trustworthy management IMO.
11. Houston (14.0% chance) - Victor would immediately boost this team's comical defense. Houston has been such a dumpster fire that I'd rather see some other teams win, though.
12. Chicago (1.8% chance) - As currently constructed, this team would be an OK short-term fit for Victor and a bad long-term one. If they blew it up and turned Derozan/Lavine into players/picks, this could be interesting. Would be cool to see some excitement around Bulls basketball again.
13. Washington (6.7% chance) - Just like Chicago but worse, the Wiz are relatively old, mediocre, and boring. It's unclear how they'd put a contending roster around Wembanyama in 5-7 years. Swapping Beal for future assets is nearly impossible with his contract, and ownership has zero appetite for tanking anyway.
14. Getting hit by a bus (<0.1% chance)
15. Dallas (3.0% chance) - Alright, maybe I still have a bit of animus towards Kyrie.
 
caustic said:
The definitive ranking of potential Wembanyama destinations. tl;dr I'll probably be mildly disappointed by tomorrow's results.

1. Oklahoma City (1.7% chance) - Wembanyama would be absolutely perfect for the 5-out style that OKC wants to play, immediately making them one of the most fun young teams in the league.
2. Portland (10.5% chance) - Wemby is exactly the kind of two-way rim protector that this roster needs. He and Lillard would be a blast, but this would still be fun if they trade Dame and move forward with a core of Wembanyana, Simons, and Shaedon.
3. Indiana (6.8% chance) - It would be great to see Indiana add a second star to play with Tyrese Haliburton, who I adore.
4. New Orleans (0.5% chance) - Since day 1, New Orleans has needed a stretch 5 to maximize Zion, so Victor would be perfect (just unlikely). Would be #2 on this list if not for Zion's health concerns.
5. Utah (4.5% chance) - Defensively, a frontcourt of Wembanyama and Walker Kessler would be filthy. The Jazz have plenty of future assets and would now have a young centerpiece to build around.
6. Orlando (9.0% chance) - The Magic have had their fair share of lotto luck recently so I'd prefer to see another team win it all. That being said, they would be absolutely loaded after adding Wembanyama to their young core.
7. Toronto (1.0% chance) - The Raptors are at a bit of a crossroads with this roster, and landing Wembanyama would give them a clearer direction. Victor's frontcourt shooting alleviates some of the issues created by Scottie Barnes's offense.
8. Charlotte (12.5% chance) - I think going to a team with a good PG would help maximize Victor's early years -- a Lamelo/Wembanyama pairing would be very fun.
9. San Antonio (14.0% chance) - Wemby would be a great retirement gift for Pop, and given the Spurs' track record of drafting/development, I'm relatively confident in their ability to build around him.
10. Detroit (14.0% chance) - Compared to the Spurs, Detroit has a more interesting young core but less trustworthy management IMO.
11. Houston (14.0% chance) - Victor would immediately boost this team's comical defense. Houston has been such a dumpster fire that I'd rather see some other teams win, though.
12. Chicago (1.8% chance) - As currently constructed, this team would be an OK short-term fit for Victor and a bad long-term one. If they blew it up and turned Derozan/Lavine into players/picks, this could be interesting. Would be cool to see some excitement around Bulls basketball again.
13. Washington (6.7% chance) - Just like Chicago but worse, the Wiz are relatively old, mediocre, and boring. It's unclear how they'd put a contending roster around Wembanyama in 5-7 years. Swapping Beal for future assets is nearly impossible with his contract, and ownership has zero appetite for tanking anyway.
14. Getting hit by a bus (<0.1% chance)
15. Dallas (3.0% chance) - Alright, maybe I still have a bit of animus towards Kyrie.
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How dare you.
 
Embiid is playing on one leg. Of course he wanted to be on the perimeter, of course he didn't want to battle for a rebound.

You can question Embiid's health, but I don't know how you his effort. He was like 5050 to even play the series.
 
caustic said:
Juxtatarot said:
caustic said:
1. Oklahoma City (1.7% chance) - Wembanyama would be absolutely perfect for the 5-out style that OKC wants to play, immediately making them one of the most fun young teams in the league.
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Can you play Victor and Chet together?
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Hard to say since we've seen zero NBA ball from either. If Wemby is as good as advertised, I'm totally fine marginalizing/trading Chet.
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There's video of them playing against each other. I believe Wembanyama outplayed Chet.
 
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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Great posting.

The reality is that Philly's #1 and #2 really came up short when it counted. In both Game 6 an Game 7, they had chances to effect the outcome and they laid down. That does not make a champion. The greatest players don't do that. They take on the pressure and come up big when it counts. Doc, Embiid, and Harden all deserve the hate coming their way for their series performance here.
 
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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He was NEVER the MVP. He has his moments, but he's really overrated imo.
 
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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Embiid is getting destroyed here in Philly today. People feel betrayed because so many went to the wall defending this guy only for him to come up so small. Then on top of it his comments about he and James can't do it alone. **** that, man. You just scored 15 points in a game 7 for your ****ing legacy and you're blaming Harris, Maxey, Tucker et al for failing you?! I'm done with this guy.
 
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If Philly and their fans are done with Embiid we will take him in Detroit, I am sure about 25ish other teams feel the same way.
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Yea I doubt Sixers management is done with him. But as a fan base, we're done with his ********. All his antics that we've been playing off and ignoring knowing full well wed hate them if another team did them, that's all done. He needs to get his **** together, grow the **** up and maybe win a damn meaningful playoff series.
 
Insein said:
msudaisy26 said:
If Philly and their fans are done with Embiid we will take him in Detroit, I am sure about 25ish other teams feel the same way.
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Yea I doubt Sixers management is done with him. But as a fan base, we're done with his ********. All his antics that we've been playing off and ignoring knowing full well wed hate them if another team did them, that's all done. He needs to get his **** together, grow the **** up and maybe win a damn meaningful playoff series.
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I get being frustrated, I do. But your team lost a series in 7 games to a really good team. It happens. You had playoff life and hopes extended into mid-May. The team I root for was done in Feb.
 
General Malaise said:
Insein said:
msudaisy26 said:
If Philly and their fans are done with Embiid we will take him in Detroit, I am sure about 25ish other teams feel the same way.
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Yea I doubt Sixers management is done with him. But as a fan base, we're done with his ********. All his antics that we've been playing off and ignoring knowing full well wed hate them if another team did them, that's all done. He needs to get his **** together, grow the **** up and maybe win a damn meaningful playoff series.
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I get being frustrated, I do. But your team lost a series in 7 games to a really good team. It happens. You had playoff life and hopes extended into mid-May. The team I root for was done in Feb.
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I would take February. We are already done for 23/24 season.
 
msudaisy26 said:
General Malaise said:
Insein said:
msudaisy26 said:
If Philly and their fans are done with Embiid we will take him in Detroit, I am sure about 25ish other teams feel the same way.
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Yea I doubt Sixers management is done with him. But as a fan base, we're done with his ********. All his antics that we've been playing off and ignoring knowing full well wed hate them if another team did them, that's all done. He needs to get his **** together, grow the **** up and maybe win a damn meaningful playoff series.
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I get being frustrated, I do. But your team lost a series in 7 games to a really good team. It happens. You had playoff life and hopes extended into mid-May. The team I root for was done in Feb.
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I would take February. We are already done for 23/24 season.
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:lmao:

Had a feeling that was coming.
 
Insein said:
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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Embiid is getting destroyed here in Philly today. People feel betrayed because so many went to the wall defending this guy only for him to come up so small. Then on top of it his comments about he and James can't do it alone. **** that, man. You just scored 15 points in a game 7 for your ****ing legacy and you're blaming Harris, Maxey, Tucker et al for failing you?! I'm done with this guy.
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That quote has been taken way out of context. If you listen to him answer that question in full, he isn't at all throwing the team under the bus.

That said, I am kind of loving all the people ****ting on Embiid after the way he pushed for the MVP in the media then dodged Jokic in Denver.
 
Kev4029 said:
Insein said:
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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Embiid is getting destroyed here in Philly today. People feel betrayed because so many went to the wall defending this guy only for him to come up so small. Then on top of it his comments about he and James can't do it alone. **** that, man. You just scored 15 points in a game 7 for your ****ing legacy and you're blaming Harris, Maxey, Tucker et al for failing you?! I'm done with this guy.
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That quote has been taken way out of context. If you listen to him answer that question in full, he isn't at all throwing the team under the bus.

That said, I am kind of loving all the people ****ting on Embiid after the way he pushed for the MVP in the media then dodged Jokic in Denver.
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Do you have text of the original quote? I found the interview on youtube but it's 20 minutes long and I don't have 20 minutes of listening to it in me.

It's hard for me to imagine what context changes "We can't do it alone." Boston's star player drops 50. You're the MVP and you dropped 15. I don't think the words "We can't do it alone" come out of your mouth there.

That said, I'd love to see the context in case I'm wrong.
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Harden led league in assists and still can drop 40+ on occasion. He will get another big contract.
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I'll be surprised if he doesn't. But who? Bad teams aren't going to sign him hoping he is the answer. Good teams don't need him. And the middle of the road teams ... he doesn't fit many. Maybe a team like Atlanta or New Orleans? It'll be interesting.
 
Kev4029 said:
Insein said:
Anarchy99 said:
I was going to comment about the crazy climate change in media coverage in about 48 hours. BOS was going to have to can Mazzulla, Tatum will forever come up small, and Brown was getting shipped out of town. Two days later, it's Doc is done, Harden's gone, and Joel may not want to stick around. I get it . . . that's the difference between winning and losing.

Also curious why Embiid isn't getting called out more. He wasn't particularly great the past couple of games. Sure, he hasn't been 100% against BOS, but he was the MVP. He's now 5-6 in playoff series and hasn't made it out of the 2nd round. Harden has been getting called out as not being a great playoff leader and has folded multiple times. But Joel hasn't exactly been stellar in the post season.

From what I saw, Embiid was often content to linger on the perimeter on the weak side of the court in the last two games against Boston while his teammates possessed the ball on the opposite side of the court. He didn't come to the ball, he didn't post up much, and there were times when he had Smrt covering him. Not only that, when shots went up, he just stood there and watched and let everyone else battle for a rebound. I don't get how he was not fully engaged. If he is the alpha on the team, he would have made himself be available and front and center. But for some reason he didn't. So, sure, he's right that he can't win on his own and that he didn't touch the ball in the last 4 minutes of Game 6. But he made very little attempt to get the ball or get under the basket where no one could do much with him.
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Embiid is getting destroyed here in Philly today. People feel betrayed because so many went to the wall defending this guy only for him to come up so small. Then on top of it his comments about he and James can't do it alone. **** that, man. You just scored 15 points in a game 7 for your ****ing legacy and you're blaming Harris, Maxey, Tucker et al for failing you?! I'm done with this guy.
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That quote has been taken way out of context. If you listen to him answer that question in full, he isn't at all throwing the team under the bus.

That said, I am kind of loving all the people ****ting on Embiid after the way he pushed for the MVP in the media then dodged Jokic in Denver.
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I mean Harris and Maxey had more points than him. Who else does he need?
 
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