dawgtrails
Footballguy
Suck it.
Let me finish getting high and I will proceed to pick a non Timberwolves player
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2022 NBA Roster Draft - This draft goes to 12! (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Frostillicus
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Let me finish getting high and I will proceed to pick a non Timberwolves player
Eephus
Footballguy
Yeah but not as much as for the Giants. I grew up with the expansion Bucks so there's some split loyalties. The last few years have been sweet after a lot of L's over the decades.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Anthony Davis
I expect him to trounce the league once he comes back
I expect him to trounce the league once he comes back
Doug B
Footballguy
Did you like the 80s Bucks with Moncrief, Marques Johnson, Paul Pressey, and those guys? Terry Cummings and Ricky Pierce were on the later version of those squads. A lot of seasons as probably the league's third-best team, and sometimes the second.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
PIK95
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
If this draft was last year he would have been top 6, if it was two years ago, he may have gone top 2. Surprised he slipped this far. He's a #2 offensively, but he's uber elite defensively and is probably the most adaptive player defensively in the league. Gives you plenty of options with the rest of your starting lineup.
Doug B
Footballguy
JMon348
Footballguy
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
1.13 - James Harden #13
A pick who comes with a blueprint for how to construct a team around him.
I'm on the phone with Mike D'Antoni's agent right now.
@Long Ball Larry
A pick who comes with a blueprint for how to construct a team around him.
I'm on the phone with Mike D'Antoni's agent right now.
@Long Ball Larry
Frostillicus
Footballguy
I was wondering where you would go (reach). I'm not sure anybody benefits more from the no injuries rule than AD.
Eephus
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Thanks everyone for taking all the players I wanted
PIK95
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
I'm curious what somebody that isn't the TWolves (Sorry Frosty) build a team around Towns. With his skill set, you could build the best offense in the NBA. In a vacuum in 2022, I think Towns may be the better player, but for team building purposes, Davis is a better pick.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
This was my hardest guy to place. 2021 Lillard is 8-10 in the NBA, 2022 Lillard hasn't been in the top 50. How much of that is some weird regression and how much is this core injury?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
My assumption is it is largely the core issue, which initially came up during the Olympics I believe
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
@dunfee555 just wanted to thank you for notifying whoever had the pick after me.
@Frostillicus. Wanted to thank you for setting this all up as it’s a fun and interesting experiment. Also—if you did text me about it being my turn to pick—you may have texted the wrong number-as I didn’’t get any text. Lol
Now that I got that out of the way—I want to make a disclaimer. This will be a relatively long post that most of you won’t find interesting at all—so I do not blame you at all if you use the “hide” feature. No need to “TL DR” as I’m already expecting it. Just some of my thoughts on the draft so far:
1. Giannis—-hard to see anything wrong with this pick. He’s a matchup nightmare each and every night. Great combination of strength, quickness, length, and athleticism. Brings it on both sides of the court. I personally had 5 guys that I personally could have made an argument for going #1. My criteria/basis was this: The truly elite players imo are players where doing an above average job of building around them properly is probably good enough to make you championship caliber. However—these players are soo good that even if you did a slightly below average job building a roster around them—-their teams would probably still be in contention. Giannis checks this box.
2. Jokic—he also falls into that elite category for me based on the parameters I described at the end of the Giannis analysis. The dude does everything especially on the offensive side of the court. Not only is he a threat for 30-50 points every night—he’s also a threat to be the primary playmaker in setting up his teammates. Also—one of that attributes of this hypothetical team building that we are doing that I find most interesting is keeping in mind that we are not talking about fantasy basketball. This is not an exercise in drafting a team that is the best in fantasy league—its about building a team where “styles” of play and the potential chemsistry/cohesion of each player fits into the team. One thing that I love about Jokic is that he’s the type of player whose game would fit well with any myriad of players.
3. Lebron James—He went earlier than I would have expected—but I completely understand the pick. For me—he’s just outside of the top 5 players I’d consider as a potential first pick. I actually thought that I would have a legit shot of him possibly falling to 9. I thought I maybe had a 30% shot of that happening—and I probably would have grabbed him there. This is why: Drafting Lebron gives you a lot of flexibility when it comes to the few picks in the draft. Lebron is basically the basketball version of a Swiss Army knife. Offensively—-you could literally play him at any position 1-2-3-4 or 5. Defensively—-even though he’s older and has to pick and choose when he played defense—he can also guard virtually any position. Whereas most posters in the draft most likely have to make their next roster moves/decisions based on the playing style of their first pick—the person drafting Lebron could literally evaluate who the best available player is when their next pick is up—and draft him knowing that he will fit in regardless of position. Lebron James in this exercise—is basically the fantasy version of having a player with multiple positional eligibilities.
4. Durant—-thought there was a legit chance he goes first. I think KD is so good now—that any team you put him on—will be a contender by default. I feel like his defense and playmaking are also under rated. Sure—he’s arguably the league’s best scorer—but he is a willing passer and you can run an offense through him.
5. Embiid—he’s a guy that I didnt’ think would go first—but I personally would put in the top 5 guys that I’d consider drafting first. The caveat of the “assumption of being fully healthy” plays a big part in regards to why I’d consider him at first. Historically speaking—the difference between when Embiid is a great player versus when he’s an “elite” player is his health and his own “interest” in the game. Generally speaking—when Embiid is in his best health—it tends to be directly correlated to how well he’s engaged and passionate about the game. Also-if we evaluate what he’s done with the Sixers this season—he matches my definition of what I consider as being elite. The current roster situation in Philadelphia is far from optimal in regards to health and the Ben Simmons situation. Even with that—the Sixers are clearly in the playoff picture and are looking like one of the stronger teams in the east.
There’s my analysis of the first 5 picks. I’m debating on whether to do one for the next 5 picks. If I get bored enough—I might just do it. Lol
@Frostillicus. Wanted to thank you for setting this all up as it’s a fun and interesting experiment. Also—if you did text me about it being my turn to pick—you may have texted the wrong number-as I didn’’t get any text. Lol
Now that I got that out of the way—I want to make a disclaimer. This will be a relatively long post that most of you won’t find interesting at all—so I do not blame you at all if you use the “hide” feature. No need to “TL DR” as I’m already expecting it. Just some of my thoughts on the draft so far:
1. Giannis—-hard to see anything wrong with this pick. He’s a matchup nightmare each and every night. Great combination of strength, quickness, length, and athleticism. Brings it on both sides of the court. I personally had 5 guys that I personally could have made an argument for going #1. My criteria/basis was this: The truly elite players imo are players where doing an above average job of building around them properly is probably good enough to make you championship caliber. However—these players are soo good that even if you did a slightly below average job building a roster around them—-their teams would probably still be in contention. Giannis checks this box.
2. Jokic—he also falls into that elite category for me based on the parameters I described at the end of the Giannis analysis. The dude does everything especially on the offensive side of the court. Not only is he a threat for 30-50 points every night—he’s also a threat to be the primary playmaker in setting up his teammates. Also—one of that attributes of this hypothetical team building that we are doing that I find most interesting is keeping in mind that we are not talking about fantasy basketball. This is not an exercise in drafting a team that is the best in fantasy league—its about building a team where “styles” of play and the potential chemsistry/cohesion of each player fits into the team. One thing that I love about Jokic is that he’s the type of player whose game would fit well with any myriad of players.
3. Lebron James—He went earlier than I would have expected—but I completely understand the pick. For me—he’s just outside of the top 5 players I’d consider as a potential first pick. I actually thought that I would have a legit shot of him possibly falling to 9. I thought I maybe had a 30% shot of that happening—and I probably would have grabbed him there. This is why: Drafting Lebron gives you a lot of flexibility when it comes to the few picks in the draft. Lebron is basically the basketball version of a Swiss Army knife. Offensively—-you could literally play him at any position 1-2-3-4 or 5. Defensively—-even though he’s older and has to pick and choose when he played defense—he can also guard virtually any position. Whereas most posters in the draft most likely have to make their next roster moves/decisions based on the playing style of their first pick—the person drafting Lebron could literally evaluate who the best available player is when their next pick is up—and draft him knowing that he will fit in regardless of position. Lebron James in this exercise—is basically the fantasy version of having a player with multiple positional eligibilities.
4. Durant—-thought there was a legit chance he goes first. I think KD is so good now—that any team you put him on—will be a contender by default. I feel like his defense and playmaking are also under rated. Sure—he’s arguably the league’s best scorer—but he is a willing passer and you can run an offense through him.
5. Embiid—he’s a guy that I didnt’ think would go first—but I personally would put in the top 5 guys that I’d consider drafting first. The caveat of the “assumption of being fully healthy” plays a big part in regards to why I’d consider him at first. Historically speaking—the difference between when Embiid is a great player versus when he’s an “elite” player is his health and his own “interest” in the game. Generally speaking—when Embiid is in his best health—it tends to be directly correlated to how well he’s engaged and passionate about the game. Also-if we evaluate what he’s done with the Sixers this season—he matches my definition of what I consider as being elite. The current roster situation in Philadelphia is far from optimal in regards to health and the Ben Simmons situation. Even with that—the Sixers are clearly in the playoff picture and are looking like one of the stronger teams in the east.
There’s my analysis of the first 5 picks. I’m debating on whether to do one for the next 5 picks. If I get bored enough—I might just do it. Lol
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Kev4029
Footballguy
1.15 Rudy Gobert – The best defensive player in the NBA, the best rebounder in the NBA, and the best PnR roll man in the NBA. He’ll limit my team construction offensively, but I’m all but guaranteed to have a top 3 defense. I had him kind of straddling my 2nd and 3rd tiers in his own spot at #7 and pumped to get him here.
@Doug B You're up
@Doug B You're up
scoobus
Footballguy
Strongly considered, easily could have been my pick. I just had a hard time getting over last year's playoffs and his team's lack of playoff success in general. Huge floor raiser though.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
You stole him here. He’s the answer to any potential defensive deficiencies that might be present with the teammates you draft. He was the guy that I narrowed things down to with Trae.
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
update the goolge sheet please and don't cheat
Kev4029
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
dawgtrails
Footballguy
scoobus
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
tru dat. hold this draft in June, he's mid 2nd. i warned Jazzx was series-solvable even after they won 1st 2 against Clips (ask @Jayrod) but nobody would have it...
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
The jazz would be ranked better defensively this season if they hadn’t been ravaged with health/protocol stuff. The reality is this—he’s possibly the leagues only player where you can get him on your team—and are virtually guaranteed to be considered one of the leagues better defensive teams.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I just didn't see it. I didn't understand their offensive limitations well enough I guess, but their collapse surprised me last postseason that's for sure and wikkid called it a month in advance.
scoobus
Footballguy
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Kev4029
Footballguy
Gobert's Drtg in the last 8 years has never been lower than 8th. The Jazz have had some pretty bad defensive players around him, but when he is playing, they are consistently elite defensively. He can't play 48 mpg.
dawgtrails
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