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2022 NBA Roster Draft - This draft goes to 12! (1 Viewer)

Frostillicus said:
So, although I already have a DPOY candidate in Myles Turner to anchor my defense, with Luka and Herro being defensive minues and Ant being inconsistent I felt I needed another solid defensive player to help out in the paint. I was scrolling through some of the defensive metrics looking for a good defensive PF with little regard to offense since I am already loaded up there.

But guess what I found? A guy with one of the best Defensive Ratings at PF in the league who averages 15 & 10 while shooting better than 40% from 3. No, really. I checked over and over again and he hasn't been picked. I know we like to throw "SOD" around, but this time it's accurate. I selecet:

5.13 PF Bobby Portis, MIL
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AND, he looks like Stringer Bell.

 
Sticking with the theme of my team here, going with a guy who's a good shooter, pretty good defender and has championship pedigree. Might end up starting, depends on how the rest of the team comes together. 

5.15 Pat Connaughton, SG, MIL

@Desert_Power is up next. 

 
My team already has four players who are currently averaging more than 18.3 points per game while avoiding any real defensive liabilities. It makes sense to beef up the defense with a player who can play a high level of defense against stars like KD on the biggest stage. So I'm going to plug in PJ Tucker F.

A gritty champion who is having career highs in 3PT% (.454) and True Shooting (.614) on the Heat. Adds a different attitude to the team, can switch well with Wiggins, and take advantage of the myriad of open looks this group will create.

Lamelo Ball
Terry Rozier
Andrew Wiggins
PJ Tucker
Joel Embiid

 
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Desert_Power said:
My team already has four players who are currently averaging more than 18.3 points per game while avoiding any real defensive liabilities. It makes sense to beef up the defense with a player who can play a high level of defense against stars like KD on the biggest stage. So I'm going to plug in PJ Tucker F.

A gritty champion who is having career highs in 3PT% (.454) and True Shooting (.614) on the Heat. Adds a different attitude to the team, can switch well with Wiggins, and take advantage of the myriad of open looks this group will create.

Lamelo Ball
Terry Rozier
Andrew Wiggins
PJ Tucker
Joel Embiid
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Terrible team.

 
Lots of ways I can go here, but going for a scarcity pick. A decent amount left (for now) of low efficiency scoring, suitable playmaking, defense, but not very much reliable outside shooting.  Plus I get the love child of two of the best all-time Spurs. 
 

5.17 - Duncan Robinson - Heat

He got off to a slower start this year but has been heating up since he got back from protocols.
 

Might not end up in my starting lineup, but good luck chasing Klay and Duncan around the perimeter, with Miles diving through open space and Kyle and KAT able to create shots for everyone from all spots on the floor. 
 

Kyle Lowry

Klay Thompson

Duncan Robinson

Miles Bridges

Karl Anthony Towns

:thumbup:

 
5.18 Lu Dort

All perimeter stars will now be placed into the Dortress.  His %s are down because he’s building up his offensive game but that has grown in him to averaging 17pts a game.  His catch and shoot corner threes are still around 42% and that will be his role with this team.  His on ball aggressiveness will look even better now that he knows TimeLord is behind him.  

Loving this Bron build so far, excited to add more pieces to it.

@wikkidpissah

 
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Instinctive said:
Alright 3.17, after much trade deliberation, is Desmond Bane.

Fantastic shooter, solid defender with versatility across the whole perimeter. Looking not to bad off the bounce this year.  
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JMon348 said:
3.18 Tyrese Haliburton 

Versatility.  Like SGA can play on or off ball allowing them to be stars in their roles with Lebron dictating the offensive plan of action.

He’s been awesome this year even with his odd pairing with Fox.  Hopefully a trade is in the works so he can have full control of the team.  Another guy I love to watch.

@wikkidpissah
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JMon348 said:
5.18 Lu Dort

All perimeter stars will now be placed into the Dortress.  His %s are down because he’s building up his offensive game but that has grown in him to averaging 17pts a game.  His catch and shoot corner threes are still around 42% and that will be his role with this team.  His on ball aggressiveness will look even better now that he knows TimeLord is behind him.  

Loving this Bron build so far, excited to add more pieces to it.

@wikkidpissah
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Guys, please list the associated G League team your pick is affiliated with when you post your pick.

 
5.19 Maaaacus Smaaaat, G Bos

kismet. cap my starting five with a player who offers what no other player can. i've never tired of his relentlessness and still marvel at his ability to guard all positions and take the ball from anybody at the most opportune times. it will be the job of his teammates to make that mean something. and he's pretty much stopped taking nonsense treys. hell, i'd trade Jayson Tatum for him right now

@facook

 
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facook said:
Sorry to say, if it gets to me tonight/tomorrow AM I'm going to hold up the draft before picking another guy that isn't even on fantasy teams.  Work meetings start early and last till late morning Pacific.  If it's to me, at that time I'll figure it out.  And no I can't give a list because I could give a list of 10 and each one would go to one of you jerks before I choose my losers.
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Reminder or for those that missed it. Pick not expected until “late morning Pacific”.

 
wikkidpissah said:
5.19 Maaaacus Smaaaat, G Bos

kismet. cap my starting five with a player who offers what no other player can. i've never tired of his relentlessness and still marvel at his ability to guard all positions and take the ball from anybody at the most opportune times. it will be the job of his teammates to make that mean something. and he's pretty much stopped taking nonsense treys. hell, i'd trade Jayson Tatum for him right now

@facook
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My favorite player.  He's a top defender and really underrated playmaker.  Not many guys throw a better lob either, ask Time Lord.  Marcus was under strong consideration for my last two picks, but the thought of getting mocked again by the peanut gallery stopped me from pulling the trigger.  Great pick.

 
PIK95 said:
My favorite player.  He's a top defender and really underrated playmaker.  Not many guys throw a better lob either, ask Time Lord.  Marcus was under strong consideration for my last two picks, but the thought of getting mocked again by the peanut gallery stopped me from pulling the trigger.  Great pick.
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I contemplated him heavily instead of Brunson, but I felt my team needed more of a true PG.  Smart is better as a defensive SG alongside a star PG or even better, as a 6th man.

 
Jayrod said:
I contemplated him heavily instead of Brunson, but I felt my team needed more of a true PG.  Smart is better as a defensive SG alongside a star PG or even better, as a 6th man.
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I disagree.  He is a below average SG, but a great PG with the ball in his hands.  Part of the reason they fall apart in so many games late, is because Tratum brings the ball up, and Smart has to set up in a spot for a shot.  I'm not sure if it's coach's call or Tratum's ego, but they finally seemed to put a stop to it a bit in Smart's first game back yesterday.  Smart is a fantastic passer and decision maker at PG, but he isn't consistent enough this year as a shooter to be a good SG.  And those fire lobs bring back memories of Sherm Douglas.

 
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dawgtrails said:
:no:

He is a below average SG and PG who makes up for his terrible shooting with good, not great defense.
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Do you watch the games?  Even Mike and Scal love him as a facilitator.  Bad take.

And this bad take is exactly why I didn't pick him.  The Tratum apologists have this blame/trade Smart agenda.  They sell that Tratum is god, and it must be Smart's fault they lose since he is the easy target.  

 
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PIK95 said:
I disagree.  He is a below average SG, but a great PG with the ball in his hands.  Part of the reason they fall apart in so many games late, is because Tratum brings the ball up, and Smart has to set up in a spot for a shot.  I'm not sure if it's coach's call or Tratum's ego, but they finally seemed to put a stop to it a bit in Smart's first game back yesterday.  Smart is a fantastic passer and decision maker at PG, but he isn't consistent enough this year as a shooter to be a good SG.  And those fire lobs bring back memories of Sherm Douglas.
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I get that he is better as a distributor than a shooter, but he's better off just letting others run the offense and being opportunistic than being any kind of focal point.  I don't like him bringing it up and setting up at the top of the key and trying to drive from there.

I'd rather see him cutting and roaming the baseline and attacking weak spots in the defense or setting up in the corner, which is easier done as the SG than the PG.

Obviously, his real value is his defense...and contrary to dawgtrails horrible take, he is a tremendous defender.

 
Marcus Smart is a great facilitator of the offense.  The best one on the Celtics easily.  Besides taking charges, it's what he does best.  Watch just him next game like a coach would do, and you will see it.  Ironically Schroeder is terrible at that, yet you don't hear anyone complaining.   

As for "I'd rather see him cutting and roaming the baseline and attacking weak spots in the defense or setting up in the corner, which is easier done as the SG than the PG." that's not what he's best at, and we don't have anyone to make those passes to him cutting besides maybe Al. This is what we do often in the 4th when Tratum brings the ball up and it's awful.  We lose so many games because of it.  I miss coach Brad.

Edited to add: PP is good in either guard spot, and loves to shoot.  I would be ok with him playing more at SG no problem.

 
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PIK95 said:
Marcus Smart is a great facilitator of the offense.  The best one on the Celtics easily.  Besides taking charges, it's what he does best.  Watch just him next game like a coach would do, and you will see it.  Ironically Schroeder is terrible at that, yet you don't hear anyone complaining.   

As for "I'd rather see him cutting and roaming the baseline and attacking weak spots in the defense or setting up in the corner, which is easier done as the SG than the PG." that's not what he's best at, and we don't have anyone to make those passes to him cutting besides maybe Al. This is what we do often in the 4th when Tatum brings the ball up and it's awful.  We lose so many games because of it.  I miss coach Brad.

Edited to add: PP is good in either guard spot, and loves to shoot.  I would be ok with him playing more at SG no problem.
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Admittedly, I haven't seen many games this season...but based on past years, when Smart sets up from the top of the key he ends up shooting too many deep threes and doesn't get angles from the wing to make passes to cutters and posts.  I just don't like him stationary out there and prefer him moving from side to side.  Sure the Celtics don't have a real PG, so he is stuck doing the job, but I just don't think it is his ideal role.

 
Jayrod said:
Admittedly, I haven't seen many games this season...but based on past years, when Smart sets up from the top of the key he ends up shooting too many deep threes and doesn't get angles from the wing to make passes to cutters and posts.  I just don't like him stationary out there and prefer him moving from side to side.  Sure the Celtics don't have a real PG, so he is stuck doing the job, but I just don't think it is his ideal role.
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I get what you are saying, but it's starting from a bad premise.  Last year, when guys were out, he was trying to do to much and jacking up crazy shots. Especially in the playoffs.  My guess is that Brad wanted that at that time.  Not many other options. When Smart wasn't shooting, Semi and Tristen were, lol.  We were so short that we needed Smart to score to win.  That's not his game, but he's a team first guy.  He hits some amazing clutch shots, but he's a pure PG under normal circumstances. 

With Al back, and Rob's minutes up, we have much better flow and ball movement this year...when Tradum (and Schroeder) is on the bench.  

 
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PIK95 said:
My favorite player.  He's a top defender and really underrated playmaker.  Not many guys throw a better lob either, ask Time Lord.  Marcus was under strong consideration for my last two picks, but the thought of getting mocked again by the peanut gallery stopped me from pulling the trigger.  Great pick.
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Jayrod said:
I contemplated him heavily instead of Brunson, but I felt my team needed more of a true PG.  Smart is better as a defensive SG alongside a star PG or even better, as a 6th man.
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PIK95 said:
I disagree.  He is a below average SG, but a great PG with the ball in his hands.
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i aint gotta worry. soon as i knew i had a top 2 pick (and therefore getting either Freak or Joker) i looked to form a team without a ball-dominant player so that the star could flourish as he wanted to. With Brogdon/Smart/Ingram/Mobley/Joker, i got 4 guys avging 5+ assists (and Mobley will), 4 guys avging 5+ trey attempts (and Mobley will) and all 4 guys around Joker can defend multiple ppositions and switch on anybody. mission accomplished.

and Maaaacus Smaaaat aint a great PG. Maaaacus Smaaaat is a great pick&roll PG and that (besides the D) is what i most need with the best pick & roll/pop center in the game.

 
Marcus Smart runs 3.1 PnRs per game (good for ~80th in the NBA) for 0.62 PPP (good for about 220th out of 257 in the NBA). His efficiency is down (I assume that is going hand in hand with his shooting being way down this year) but his # of PnRs per game has been steady for a few years. Basketball reference has him as playing 100% at PG this year but Schroder as playing the majority of his time at SG. Smart is secondary ball handler and facilitator who is playing the most PG of his career because the other options are terrible. I would argue that the Celtics are rarely playing with a PG on the court which has lead to their trash production this season.

 
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Kev4029 said:
Marcus Smart runs 3.1 PnRs per game (good for ~80th in the NBA) for 0.62 PPP (good for about 220th out of 257 in the NBA). His efficiency is down (I assume that is going hand in hand with his shooting being way down this year) but his # of PnRs per game has been steady for a few years. Basketball reference has him as playing 100% at PG this year but Schroder as playing the majority of his time at SG. Smart is secondary ball handler and facilitator who is playing the most PG of his career because the other options are terrible. I would argue that the Celtics are rarely playing with a PG on the court which has lead to their trash production this season.
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i gotta PPP about 2.38 times per game

 
Kev4029 said:
Marcus Smart runs 3.1 PnRs per game (good for ~80th in the NBA) for 0.62 PPP (good for about 220th out of 257 in the NBA). His efficiency is down (I assume that is going hand in hand with his shooting being way down this year) but his # of PnRs per game has been steady for a few years. Basketball reference has him as playing 100% at PG this year but Schroder as playing the majority of his time at SG. Smart is secondary ball handler and facilitator who is playing the most PG of his career because the other options are terrible. I would argue that the Celtics are rarely playing with a PG on the court which has lead to their trash production this season.
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all fair, but within the context of wikkid's team, he is the 3rd ball handler (maybe even 4th since Ingram will do some of his own stuff) so that seems fine.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
all fair, but within the context of wikkid's team, he is the 3rd ball handler (maybe even 4th since Ingram will do some of his own stuff) so that seems fine.
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my goal was to avoid ball-dominant players and have good passers, switchers & shooters (in that order) around Joker. not thrilled (tho not unhappy) on the shooting end, totes thrilled on the other two. i dont know enough about the next gen stats to be able to speak to the implications, but 60 years of watching Celtic pick&rolls and 6 of watching Maaaacus Smaaaat has me very happy about where, when, why & how Joker gets the ball. literally capable of a triple-fifteen with this bunch and wont get exposed on D.

ETA: now when do i get to finish my elbow?!

 
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