2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (3 Viewers)

[timschochet]

It’s rare to see a game where a team dominates on the field as much as Clemson did in the 2nd half and not only fails to score but gives up 3 touchdowns. Amazing.

 

[need2know]

Fsu is going to kick clemsons ***

 

[Capella]

This storming the field is a bit much by Duke

They haven’t beat a top-10 team in forever of course they are storming the field.

 

[Sullie]

This storming the field is a bit much by Duke

So the thing of it is, to me, I think if I were a Clemson fan I would feel worse if they didn't because that's when you know you're in trouble.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

How can an act that is part of a live play not count as part of the live play?

When his knee hit the ground the play was dead. The hit came in after his knee was down, therefore not continuance.

wouldn't every late hit fall under this definition?

 

[Jayrok]

Dabo refusing to use the portal because it’s not in the Bible or whatever killed their potential dynasty. Thank God.

And this is a point of contention among fans and the frustration with Dabo over the last couple of years. Time after time in other games when a great play is made we hear "transfer from <school> with an outstanding catch", etc. New rules allow a team to be overhauled (Colorado) or upgraded (ND with Harman, certainly FSU in skill positions).

Dabo said he's open to the portal but he seems to think he doesn't have holes to fill, which makes it worse as it shows his blindness and/or incompetence. The Oline has been shotty for years and he has no WR that can separate. No playmakers at wideout since Higgins and Ross left. Everyone sees it but him.

It was a nice run but Clemson's inability to read the room and adapt to the changing competitive climate is going to lead them back to annual visits to the Belk bowls of mid-December.

I shutter to think what FSU is going to do to them in a few weeks. That team is hungry and full of dogs. I don't look forward to ND either. It feels like FSU is best in the ACC and will be its rep in the playoff.

 

[Jayrok]

How can an act that is part of a live play not count as part of the live play?

When his knee hit the ground the play was dead. The hit came in after his knee was down, therefore not continuance.

wouldn't every late hit fall under this definition?

Yes. It was a bizarre call. If a runner trying to make the first down marker steps out of bounds and is then hammered into the bench, it's always been "personal foul, defense. 15 yards automatic first down." I've never seen it a turnover on downs and then the offense is penalized. The play is not over just because the guy stepped out of bounds.

 

[mr. furley]

How can an act that is part of a live play not count as part of the live play?

When his knee hit the ground the play was dead. The hit came in after his knee was down, therefore not continuance.

wouldn't every late hit fall under this definition?

Yes. It was a bizarre call. If a runner trying to make the first down marker steps out of bounds and is then hammered into the bench, it's always been "personal foul, defense. 15 yards automatic first down." I've never seen it a turnover on downs and then the offense is penalized. The play is not over just because the guy stepped out of bounds.

what percentage of these occur on 4th down?

is there a refereeing site, or one of these advanced stats type sites that would track something like that?

was confused by the scenario myself, but i really couldn't remember one of these happening on 4th down when a QB slid and his knee went down before he got smoked.

 

[Jayrod]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

 

[Jayrod]

How can an act that is part of a live play not count as part of the live play?

When his knee hit the ground the play was dead. The hit came in after his knee was down, therefore not continuance.

wouldn't every late hit fall under this definition?

Yes. It was a bizarre call. If a runner trying to make the first down marker steps out of bounds and is then hammered into the bench, it's always been "personal foul, defense. 15 yards automatic first down." I've never seen it a turnover on downs and then the offense is penalized. The play is not over just because the guy stepped out of bounds.

what percentage of these occur on 4th down?

is there a refereeing site, or one of these advanced stats type sites that would track something like that?

was confused by the scenario myself, but i really couldn't remember one of these happening on 4th down when a QB slid and his knee went down before he got smoked.

A sliding quarterback is down as soon as he STARTS his slide. Thus any foul on a sliding quarterback is always a dead ball foul.

 

[In The Zone]

Dabo refusing to use the portal because it’s not in the Bible or whatever killed their potential dynasty. Thank God.

And this is a point of contention among fans and the frustration with Dabo over the last couple of years. Time after time in other games when a great play is made we hear "transfer from <school> with an outstanding catch", etc. New rules allow a team to be overhauled (Colorado) or upgraded (ND with Harman, certainly FSU in skill positions).

Dabo said he's open to the portal but he seems to think he doesn't have holes to fill, which makes it worse as it shows his blindness and/or incompetence. The Oline has been shotty for years and he has no WR that can separate. No playmakers at wideout since Higgins and Ross left. Everyone sees it but him.

It was a nice run but Clemson's inability to read the room and adapt to the changing competitive climate is going to lead them back to annual visits to the Belk bowls of mid-December.

I shutter to think what FSU is going to do to them in a few weeks. That team is hungry and full of dogs. I don't look forward to ND either. It feels like FSU is best in the ACC and will be its rep in the playoff.

Carolina pretty much ended it's losing streak against Clemson last year with transfer portal guys. Dabo's NIL with God won't get it done long-term.

After Saturday night I didn't think we could compete with Clemson this year but now it has the makings of a good game. The battle of the terrible O-Lines.

 

[mr. furley]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

 

[Jayrok]

Dabo refusing to use the portal because it’s not in the Bible or whatever killed their potential dynasty. Thank God.

And this is a point of contention among fans and the frustration with Dabo over the last couple of years. Time after time in other games when a great play is made we hear "transfer from <school> with an outstanding catch", etc. New rules allow a team to be overhauled (Colorado) or upgraded (ND with Harman, certainly FSU in skill positions).

Dabo said he's open to the portal but he seems to think he doesn't have holes to fill, which makes it worse as it shows his blindness and/or incompetence. The Oline has been shotty for years and he has no WR that can separate. No playmakers at wideout since Higgins and Ross left. Everyone sees it but him.

It was a nice run but Clemson's inability to read the room and adapt to the changing competitive climate is going to lead them back to annual visits to the Belk bowls of mid-December.

I shutter to think what FSU is going to do to them in a few weeks. That team is hungry and full of dogs. I don't look forward to ND either. It feels like FSU is best in the ACC and will be its rep in the playoff.

Carolina pretty much ended it's losing streak against Clemson last year with transfer portal guys. Dabo's NIL with God won't get it done long-term.

After Saturday night I didn't think we could compete with Clemson this year but now it has the makings of a good game. The battle of the terrible O-Lines.

Totally agree. Based on what transpired this weekend, Carolina pounds Clemson in Columbia this year. I base that mainly on the atmosphere and you know how emotion + momentum leads to the old snowball effect on the scoreboard.

 

[Jayrok]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

Agree it seems they need to rethink that one is it certainly looks like it's a continuation of the play. And it basically rewards the offending defense for taking a shot at the QB (or whoever has the ball).

 

[Jayrod]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

NCAA rules committee really only operates on a 2-year cycle. I can't ever remember a rule CHANGE happening mid-season. They have done updated rule "interpretations" mid-season before where they tweak how or what they want us to call or not call, but an actual rule change (which this would require) won't happen until next season at the earliest.

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior.

 

[In The Zone]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

NCAA rules committee really only operates on a 2-year cycle. I can't ever remember a rule CHANGE happening mid-season. They have done updated rule "interpretations" mid-season before where they tweak how or what they want us to call or not call, but an actual rule change (which this would require) won't happen until next season at the earliest.

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior.

The rule is the rule but it just doesn't seem right and I'm probably the biggest Clemson hater on these boards.

 

[massraider]

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior

Opens a can of worms.

What if a team gets stopped on 4th down. A defensive coach runs on the field and celebrates with the players. Maybe he taunted someone.

That's a dead ball foul. 15 yards after the turnover. You wanna go back and give the offense the ball?

The late hit didn't prevent them from getting the first down. So they get the 15 yards, but after play was over.

Can't be changing rules for fan bloodlust

 

[Capella]

Clemson has Florida State, at Miami, NCSU, Notre Dame, UNC, at South Carolina still this year. Very easily could be staring at a 7-5 season and their rightful return to a December 27th bowl game.

 

[Jayrod]

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior

Opens a can of worms.

What if a team gets stopped on 4th down. A defensive coach runs on the field and celebrates with the players. Maybe he taunted someone.

That's a dead ball foul. 15 yards after the turnover. You wanna go back and give the offense the ball?

The late hit didn't prevent them from getting the first down. So they get the 15 yards, but after play was over.

Can't be changing rules for fan bloodlust

I could see them making a change similar to the way they have allowed for fumbles to count after replay as long as there was "immediate clear recovery in the continuing action". The old rule was that after the whistle had blown and the play was over, nothing else could be considered after that and they made that change.

Something along the lines of "on a late hit out of bounds to the runner or to a sliding runner, the penalty shall be enforced as a live ball play prior to the end of the down". We already have rules for "live ball fouls enforced as dead ball fouls" (mainly sideline interference and non-player unsportsmanlike fouls).

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Clemson has Florida State, at Miami, NCSU, Notre Dame, UNC, at South Carolina still this year. Very easily could be staring at a 7-5 season and their rightful return to a December 27th bowl game.

I went to the game last night and 7-5 would be a good season for what I saw last night. It reminded me of watching these Geoff Collins Georgia Tech teams where it was a struggle to do anything right. Duke dominated them in the trenches. FSU is going to murder Clemson

 

[need2know]

Clemson has Florida State, at Miami, NCSU, Notre Dame, UNC, at South Carolina still this year. Very easily could be staring at a 7-5 season and their rightful return to a December 27th bowl game.

I went to the game last night and 7-5 would be a good season for what I saw last night. It reminded me of watching these Geoff Collins Georgia Tech teams where it was a struggle to do anything right. Duke dominated them in the trenches. FSU is going to murder Clemson

can you imagine how bad clemson would be if Shipley got dinged? hes their whole damn offense

 

[gump]

Back to Climpsoning it appears.

https://x.com/solidverbal/status/1698903347040800775?s=46&t=vQG5LrFwGikYrruOJaeCMg

 

[FreeBaGeL]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

This is the way it SHOULD be enforced, I agree. But I swear I can recall it happening many times where a late hit was on 4th down and they gave the team a 1st down. Maybe that was the NFL?

It's the same with enforcing a penalty on a 1st down play. If on 1st down you rush for 5 yards and an offensive lineman hits a guy late at the end it's a 15 yard penalty, 2nd and 20. But if on 1st down you rush for 15 yards and an offensive lineman hits a guy late it moves 15 yards back, and is still 1st and 10. Which NEVER made sense to me. It's a dead ball foul, they got the 1st down, it should be 1st and 25. But it's not enforced that way. This is something that's always frustrated me that no one else seemed to ever talk about.

The same here. I agree with the way it was enforced last night. But I swear every time we've seen it before they gave the team the 1st down in practice. Maybe it's a fake memory, wish I could find an example.

ETA: Spent some time on an officiating forum. Looks like the difference is between the NFL/NCAA which is why we all seem to be remembering people getting 1st downs after a late hit on 4th down. NFL extends the drive in that case, but NCAA does it by the letter of the law and that the play is over so a dead ball foul is after the turnover.

Also the reason that it's still 1st and 10 after a deadball foul on a play where the offense gets a 1st down is that it only changes the distance to gain if the foul occurs after the chains are set. Which seems like a silly rule to me because it arbitrarily makes certain penalties significantly less impactful based on a random thing.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Here's another one on the opposite end. Taunting penalties that occur DURING the play are enforced on the XP or kickoff. Why? It's not a deadball foul. If a guy breaks away and taunts Deion style at the 10 yard line, why is that enforced on the next play when it's not a deadball foul? Shouldn't it be enforced from the spot?

ETA: It looks like in college they DO enforce as a spot foul, but in the NFL they don't. Maybe it's the same discrepancy here with the late hits and that's why so many of us seem to remember teams keeping the ball after a late hit on 4th down. Maybe that's how the NFL enforces it, but not college.

ETA2: Just goofed around on some officiating forums for too long, and according to them the above edit is correct. Late hit on 4th down extends the drive in the NFL, but not in college.

 

[mr. furley]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

NCAA rules committee really only operates on a 2-year cycle. I can't ever remember a rule CHANGE happening mid-season. They have done updated rule "interpretations" mid-season before where they tweak how or what they want us to call or not call, but an actual rule change (which this would require) won't happen until next season at the earliest.

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior.

"updated interpretation" would be a rule change

semantics

 

[mr. furley]

Clemson has Florida State, at Miami, NCSU, Notre Dame, UNC, at South Carolina still this year. Very easily could be staring at a 7-5 season and their rightful return to a December 27th bowl game.

jesus definitely would not do this to Dabo

 

[GregR]

NFL does it the same.

Bucs vs Rams divisional round 2021.

4th and 14. Brady throws incomplete to Mike Evans. Evans hit after the ball was incomplete by Eric Weddle for an unnecessary roughness call. Result of play, Ball turned over on downs to LA. Rams assessed 15 yard penalty.

Divisional Round - Los Angeles Rams at Tampa Bay Buccaneers - January 23rd, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Los Angeles Rams 30 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers 27 on January 23rd, 2022 - Full team and player stats and box score

www.pro-football-reference.com

4	14:25	1	10	LAR 45	27	13	Tom Brady pass complete short middle to Rob Gronkowski for 13 yards (tackle by Nick Scott)
4	13:48	1	10	LAR 32	27	13	Tom Brady pass complete short right to Leonard Fournette for 5 yards (tackle by Leonard Floyd)
4	13:16	2	5	LAR 27	27	13	Tom Brady pass incomplete deep right intended for Rob Gronkowski (defended by Nick Scott)
4	13:11	3	5	LAR 27	27	13	Tom Brady sacked by Leonard Floyd for -9 yards
4	12:28	4	14	LAR 36	27	13	Tom Brady pass incomplete deep left intended for Mike Evans (defended by Jalen Ramsey)

Next possession:

4	12:22	1	10	LAR 36	27	13	Penalty on Eric Weddle: Unnecessary Roughness / Defense, 14 yards (accepted) (no play)
4	12:22	1	10	LAR 22	27	13	Cam Akers right guard for 3 yards (tackle by Jordan Whitehead)
4	11:39	2	7	LAR 25	27	13	Van Jefferson left end for 15 yards (tackle by Antoine Winfield)

Video of the hit: https://twitter.com/i/status/1485383153384624131

 

[gump]

AP Poll update...both Bama and FSU jump Ohio State...UTenn and ND jump into the Top 10...and UNC jumps 4 spots to 17. LSU (5 to 14) and Clemson (9 to 25) obviously biggest drops.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

AP Poll update...both Bama and FSU jump Ohio State...UTenn and ND jump into the Top 10...and UNC jumps 4 spots to 17. LSU (5 to 14) and Clemson (9 to 25) obviously biggest drops.

Top 4 stay put the entire year now.

 

[Desert_Power]

Dabo refusing to use the portal because it’s not in the Bible or whatever killed their potential dynasty. Thank God.

And this is a point of contention among fans and the frustration with Dabo over the last couple of years. Time after time in other games when a great play is made we hear "transfer from <school> with an outstanding catch", etc. New rules allow a team to be overhauled (Colorado) or upgraded (ND with Harman, certainly FSU in skill positions).

Dabo said he's open to the portal but he seems to think he doesn't have holes to fill, which makes it worse as it shows his blindness and/or incompetence. The Oline has been shotty for years and he has no WR that can separate. No playmakers at wideout since Higgins and Ross left. Everyone sees it but him.

It was a nice run but Clemson's inability to read the room and adapt to the changing competitive climate is going to lead them back to annual visits to the Belk bowls of mid-December.

I shutter to think what FSU is going to do to them in a few weeks. That team is hungry and full of dogs. I don't look forward to ND either. It feels like FSU is best in the ACC and will be its rep in the playoff.

Carolina pretty much ended it's losing streak against Clemson last year with transfer portal guys. Dabo's NIL with God won't get it done long-term.

After Saturday night I didn't think we could compete with Clemson this year but now it has the makings of a good game. The battle of the terrible O-Lines.

Totally agree. Based on what transpired this weekend, Carolina pounds Clemson in Columbia this year. I base that mainly on the atmosphere and you know how emotion + momentum leads to the old snowball effect on the scoreboard.

Both coaching staffs have a lot to work on. Clemson was pretty unlucky last night and made a lot of mistakes while Carolina had an awful OL performance that they didn’t make any adjustments to deal with.

 

[whoknew]

AP Poll update...both Bama and FSU jump Ohio State...UTenn and ND jump into the Top 10...and UNC jumps 4 spots to 17. LSU (5 to 14) and Clemson (9 to 25) obviously biggest drops.

Top 4 stay put the entire year now.

That would be extremely surprising.

 

[Tom Servo]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

NCAA rules committee really only operates on a 2-year cycle. I can't ever remember a rule CHANGE happening mid-season. They have done updated rule "interpretations" mid-season before where they tweak how or what they want us to call or not call, but an actual rule change (which this would require) won't happen until next season at the earliest.

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior.

So what was the "no fake QB sliding" thing with Pickett a couple of years back?

 

[Jayrod]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

NCAA rules committee really only operates on a 2-year cycle. I can't ever remember a rule CHANGE happening mid-season. They have done updated rule "interpretations" mid-season before where they tweak how or what they want us to call or not call, but an actual rule change (which this would require) won't happen until next season at the earliest.

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior.

So what was the "no fake QB sliding" thing with Pickett a couple of years back?

They issued an interpretation (not a new rule) that a fake slide is the beginning of a slide and thus the play is over/runner is down there. It basically said that the runner doesn't have to actually complete the slide, just start it since the sliding runner rule puts them down at the start of the slide.

 

[brettdj]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

NCAA rules committee really only operates on a 2-year cycle. I can't ever remember a rule CHANGE happening mid-season. They have done updated rule "interpretations" mid-season before where they tweak how or what they want us to call or not call, but an actual rule change (which this would require) won't happen until next season at the earliest.

This rule has been in place for as long as I've been officiating (15 years) and probably for decades prior.

It has been this way for at least 23 years (my start of officiating)

 

[brettdj]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

Probably one of the most asked rules questions, especially for newer officials.

 

[brettdj]

All dead ball fouls are enforced after the completion of the previous down is counted. Late hits are dead ball by definition.

If it happens on 4th and the result of the play is not a 1st down, it is a turnover on downs prior to the enforcement of the penalty.

It's the kind of thing we see on rules tests all the time, but only actually see in person once or twice in your entire career.

that's what i was thinking and what the referee explained(ish) but it definitely feels like one of those gray areas that will be reviewed & changed. maybe even in-season.

It has been around for a long time. Probably not to be changed. I probably see this every other year. NFHS or NCAA. It probably happened in another NCAA game this past weekend, might be D2 or D3. My game on third down had a hold on offense and dead ball late hit on defense. Both fouls enforced and the offense got a first down.

 

[gump]

Week 2 heating up a little...especially with the early P12 success and more OOCs:

ND -7.5 @ NC St
Colorado -2.5 v Nebraska
TAMU -4 @ Miami
Iowa -4 @ Iowa St
Utah -8 @ Baylor
Oregon -6.5 @ Texas Tech
Bama -7 v Texas
Wisc -6 @ Wash St
Miss St -9 v Arizona
Ok St -3 @ Arizona St
Auburn -6.5 @ Cal

 

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Do they normally sell games out? I don't think of Miami as having a large local fanbase

 

[Capella]

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Loser program

 

[Tom Servo]

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Do they normally sell games out? I don't think of Miami as having a large local fanbase

Luther Campbell ain’t walking through that door.

 

[The Commish]

People I work with in Iowa are all about this weekend. I'm not sure I could care less about this weekend's lineup though.

 

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Do they normally sell games out? I don't think of Miami as having a large local fanbase

Luther Campbell ain’t walking through that door.

It would help some if they built a stadium 30 min south near the old OB by the Marlins…

 

[Capella]

People I work with in Iowa are all about this weekend. I'm not sure I could care less about this weekend's lineup though.

Texas - Bama??

Deion - Nebraska could be fun. Dumbo going against Miami has a lot of stakes.

 

[Golden Gopher]

Anybody else a bit surprised that Colorado is only favored by 2.5 over Nebraska? The Huskers just lost to a Gopher team that literally can not run the ball. I figured they would be double-digit dogs in this one, but I guess not?

 

[culdeus]

Texas Bama is good hater watching considering they each played a large role in the destruction of the natural football universe. If only both teams could lose.

 

[General Malaise]

People I work with in Iowa are all about this weekend. I'm not sure I could care less about this weekend's lineup though.

Iowa offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz will have a clear objective to meet if he wants to keep his job beyond the 2023 season.

The Hawkeyes must score at least 25 points per game in the 2023 season or his contract will terminate on June 30, 2024, per multiple reports. Iowa must also win at least seven games, which can include a bowl game, as part of the clause. If the Hawkeyes hit those marks, Ferentz's contract will auto-extend through June 30, 2025.

The school put the amendments in place last week, while also cutting Ferentz's pay by $50,000. He'll make $850,000 in the upcoming season but will receive a bonus, two-year contract and raise should Iowa reach the aforementioned thresholds.

While 25 points per game is typically slightly below average in college football, the Hawkeyes fell well short of that mark last season. They scored just 17.7 points per game, ranking 123rd in the nation.



Nepotism at its finest.

 

[General Malaise]

People I work with in Iowa are all about this weekend. I'm not sure I could care less about this weekend's lineup though.

Texas - Bama??

Deion - Nebraska could be fun. Dumbo going against Miami has a lot of stakes.

I mean......Oregon at Texas Tech isn't terrible. It's passable, okay?

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody else a bit surprised that Colorado is only favored by 2.5 over Nebraska? The Huskers just lost to a Gopher team that literally can not run the ball. I figured they would be double-digit dogs in this one, but I guess not?

You realize that line moved 10 points since it opened, right? It was Nebraska -7 until Colorado surprised TCU and Nebraska gacked another one away. I'm tempted to fade the public here but I'm also scared to bet against Deion.

 

[Capella]

People I work with in Iowa are all about this weekend. I'm not sure I could care less about this weekend's lineup though.

Texas - Bama??

Deion - Nebraska could be fun. Dumbo going against Miami has a lot of stakes.

I mean......Oregon at Texas Tech isn't terrible. It's passable, okay?

Lot of good games.