mr. furley
Footballguy
17 - 0 Arizona up in LA over USC right now
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2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (4 Viewers)
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Galileo
Footballguy
Gave away the game...they deserve to lose. And, it blew up a parlay of mine.
zamboni
Footballguy
They should just show them All The Right Moves
facook
Footballguy
Can't believe I missed this. Not much as satisfying as Mario effing himself in the pooch. @General Malaise
Ilov80s
Footballguy
USC offense got bailed out big time there, 17-7 now
Galileo
Footballguy
And he will lead the come from behind and cement the award...
>>Instead of spending offseason sending emails threatening his staff if they talked more to local writers, Cristobal should have worked on simple math instead. What a joke.<<
facook
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That is the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time, I don't understand at all
OMG we are so lucky Mario left! Reminds me of the loss to Stanford on Verdell fumble in similiar situation. He is the worst game manager I have ever seen.
And letting the GT WR get behind the defense on the game-winning TD. UM had stupidity on offense and defense play calling.
timschochet
Footballguy
A comedy of errors for USC at the end of this game, missed a chip shot FG. Headed to OT
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
No idea why Arizona didn’t go for two after first OT.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
If you are a heavy road dog and score last in the first OT, to me that’s a 100% no brainer to go for two. Did the Arizona coach think they’d stop Caleb Williams? What a clown show.
Sullie
Footballguy
I didn't understand what this meant until I did some googling. . . I'm left speechless! Not the first time he's done this.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
As I said on the D3football.com comments, it was reputation.Another win today. In your face Geneva!Grove City College cracks the D3 top 25! I'm just thrilled that my alma mater sets at 23. Just making the playoffs would be awesome if they run the table.
Back to your regularly scheduled D1 talk...
How the heck was Mary Hardin-Baylor ranked #22 coming into this week with a 1-3 record?! Yeah, their 3 losses were all against top 10 teams, but it’s 3 losses!
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
My man, you are my favorite Domer. You always keep it 100.
Jayded
Footballguy
I’m of the school where it’s ok to criticize from a position of love. Will always love my team and root for them, but man we are a multiple-decade hot mess top to bottom.My man, you are my favorite Domer. You always keep it 100.
The hard part now is Freeman looks to be the next Faust - fans love him personally, but he looks in over his head.
ND reminds me right now of the Yankees. Cashman now has enough of the NY media believing making the playoffs is a successful season. You’re the Yankees and one World Series in 20+ years is off brand for who you’ve been. Step one to fixing it is having to have the hard conversation with the mirror.
culdeus
Footballguy
I’m of the school where it’s ok to criticize from a position of love. Will always love my team and root for them, but man we are a multiple-decade hot mess top to bottom.My man, you are my favorite Domer. You always keep it 100.
The hard part now is Freeman looks to be the next Faust - fans love him personally, but he looks in over his head.
ND reminds me right now of the Yankees. Cashman now has enough of the NY media believing making the playoffs is a successful season. You’re the Yankees and one World Series in 20+ years is off brand for who you’ve been. Step one to fixing it is having to have the hard conversation with the mirror.
There are examples like that in every league. Sports at the highest level simply wasn't competitive like it is today. Once billionaires needed something to blow money on thinga got harder for the cowboys, Yankees, and domers.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Hate to see it, Mario.
General Malaise
Footballguy
He's not what we might call a "critical thinker".
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Not kneeling down is bad enough but then you let a mediocre (at best) offense go 74 yards in 24 seconds with no timeouts. 
Jayded
Footballguy
Fair. I guess the upsetting part is the “shrug” reaction like what can you do. What you can do is put your best foot forward and acknowledge the goal is still to climb the mountain. Instead a lot of those orgs seem satisfied with social media selfies at base camp.I’m of the school where it’s ok to criticize from a position of love. Will always love my team and root for them, but man we are a multiple-decade hot mess top to bottom.My man, you are my favorite Domer. You always keep it 100.
The hard part now is Freeman looks to be the next Faust - fans love him personally, but he looks in over his head.
ND reminds me right now of the Yankees. Cashman now has enough of the NY media believing making the playoffs is a successful season. You’re the Yankees and one World Series in 20+ years is off brand for who you’ve been. Step one to fixing it is having to have the hard conversation with the mirror.
There are examples like that in every league. Sports at the highest level simply wasn't competitive like it is today. Once billionaires needed something to blow money on thinga got harder for the cowboys, Yankees, and domers.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Fair. I guess the upsetting part is the “shrug” reaction like what can you do. What you can do is put your best foot forward and acknowledge the goal is still to climb the mountain. Instead a lot of those orgs seem satisfied with social media selfies at base camp.I’m of the school where it’s ok to criticize from a position of love. Will always love my team and root for them, but man we are a multiple-decade hot mess top to bottom.My man, you are my favorite Domer. You always keep it 100.
The hard part now is Freeman looks to be the next Faust - fans love him personally, but he looks in over his head.
ND reminds me right now of the Yankees. Cashman now has enough of the NY media believing making the playoffs is a successful season. You’re the Yankees and one World Series in 20+ years is off brand for who you’ve been. Step one to fixing it is having to have the hard conversation with the mirror.
There are examples like that in every league. Sports at the highest level simply wasn't competitive like it is today. Once billionaires needed something to blow money on thinga got harder for the cowboys, Yankees, and domers.
Not sure whether or not you came up with this, but what a great saying.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I understand that but I also think that's pretty close to the ceiling for notre dame. They just don't have the top end talent to regularly compete with those handful of other elite programs. So he won the games he was supposed to win and kept them in the playoff discussion until the end quite regularly which was pretty fun to be a part of.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Thank you for saying what we’ve all been thinkingAnother win today. In your face Geneva!Grove City College cracks the D3 top 25! I'm just thrilled that my alma mater sets at 23. Just making the playoffs would be awesome if they run the table.
Back to your regularly scheduled D1 talk...
How the heck was Mary Hardin-Baylor ranked #22 coming into this week with a 1-3 record?! Yeah, their 3 losses were all against top 10 teams, but it’s 3 losses!
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Thread title is amazing
Capella
Footballguy
Does anybody else randomly think about how Mario Cristobal had a game won against Georgia Tech but didn’t take a knee because he probably thought “we need the reps” with a grunting sound behind it and they ended up losing because of it? Because I for one cannot stop thinking about it.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Reinforces everything I've ever said or thought about the clown.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yes - but I also randomly think about Reggie Ball throwing the ball in to the stands on 4th down.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I had no idea who Mario Cristobol is (had to look it up), but based on this thread I was picturing Greg Schiano (patron saint to upjumped gym coaches), but smarter. Or dumber. One of those -- probably splitting hairs.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
Yes.
Capella
Footballguy
Dumber but same idea, yea. I dunno, Schiano’s thing about rushing the kneel down with grown NFL players was pretty elite stupid guy stuff.
facook
Footballguy
It's almost like Schiano showed his lack of common sense with that BS. Mario has shown over and over and over that he can recruit but his high-school level when it comes to coaching in-game.
General Malaise
Footballguy
And he's incredibly stubborn. Can't establish the run game by pounding it right up the middle? KEEP TRYING! PUSH HARDER! He's a simpleton.
Sullie
Footballguy
WV vs Houston ending was absolutely insane. Sorry the picture quality is not very good but, wow, this was nuts!
General Malaise
Footballguy
Stu Mandel on Penn State's lack of 'explosive plays' this season.....
I wasn’t aware until this question that Penn State, which has won every game handily — had a low number of explosive plays, so I went to CFBstats and sorted by number of 20-plus yard plays and … what in the world?? The Nittany Lions are tied for 132nd — dead last among all FBS teams — with just 12 in five games. Per TruMedia, they rank 125th nationally in explosive play rate (95th), which it defines as runs of 12-plus yards and passes of 16-plus yards.
Buddy, that’s not cause for concern, that’s riot-in-the-streets level panic.
Why is this stat important? Because explosive plays are one of the strongest predictors of victory. I asked ESPN’s Bill Connelly, who baked it into his oft-cited SP+ formula, for some stats from the 2023 season. He said teams that produce more 20-plus yard gains than their opponent win 70 percent of the time, and teams that make three more than their opponent win 84 percent of the time. Last year’s four College Football Playoff teams, Georgia (No. 1), TCU (No. 4), Ohio State (No. 10) and Michigan (No. 17), all ranked in the top 20 in 20-plus yard gains.
The Nittany Lions’ lack of explosiveness has not remotely affected them to this point because their defense has allowed just 12 plays of 20-plus yards, tied for third-best nationally. But there’s a notable caveat: Penn State’s four FBS opponents to this point rank 98th (West Virginia), 100th (Illinois), 121st (Iowa) and 131st (Northwestern) in explosive play rate. Everyone else’s defenses are shutting those teams down, too.
I wasn’t aware until this question that Penn State, which has won every game handily — had a low number of explosive plays, so I went to CFBstats and sorted by number of 20-plus yard plays and … what in the world?? The Nittany Lions are tied for 132nd — dead last among all FBS teams — with just 12 in five games. Per TruMedia, they rank 125th nationally in explosive play rate (95th), which it defines as runs of 12-plus yards and passes of 16-plus yards.
Buddy, that’s not cause for concern, that’s riot-in-the-streets level panic.
Why is this stat important? Because explosive plays are one of the strongest predictors of victory. I asked ESPN’s Bill Connelly, who baked it into his oft-cited SP+ formula, for some stats from the 2023 season. He said teams that produce more 20-plus yard gains than their opponent win 70 percent of the time, and teams that make three more than their opponent win 84 percent of the time. Last year’s four College Football Playoff teams, Georgia (No. 1), TCU (No. 4), Ohio State (No. 10) and Michigan (No. 17), all ranked in the top 20 in 20-plus yard gains.
The Nittany Lions’ lack of explosiveness has not remotely affected them to this point because their defense has allowed just 12 plays of 20-plus yards, tied for third-best nationally. But there’s a notable caveat: Penn State’s four FBS opponents to this point rank 98th (West Virginia), 100th (Illinois), 121st (Iowa) and 131st (Northwestern) in explosive play rate. Everyone else’s defenses are shutting those teams down, too.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well that was something. 99 yard TD for Stanford.
Can’t convert a 2 pointer though so maybe colorado will be able to hold on here.
Can’t convert a 2 pointer though so maybe colorado will be able to hold on here.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Ok, 97
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well somehow I looked away for a minute and Stanford has the ball back and scored a 60 yard td. What is going on here.
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