Tanner9919
Footballguy
who cares about the big man. cut his ***.
Elijah Moore still gonna feast in 2022 with or without Becton.
Elijah Moore still gonna feast in 2022 with or without Becton.
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2023 New York Jets (4 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Oh my Zach Wilson.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Oh boy Zach Wilson v. 2
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The RBs look good at least
facook
Footballguy
Didn't look good. :(
nittanylion
Footballguy
Saleh -----> Garoppolo?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
On the bright side I took the Eagles +1.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Pack your bags Joe Flacco, you’re heading to San Francisco.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
My first thought as well
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Really sucks for the Jets, I thought their build has been pretty good
TLEF316
Footballguy
Seems about right. We know
Chemical X
Footballguy
well, it was a run
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh my.
I just saw that. What the heck...?
This is a disaster.
Where is the reset button?
I just saw that. What the heck...?
This is a disaster.
Where is the reset button?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He was starting to look really good this preseason, too.
I’m glad I don’t need him until 2023, but was kinda hoping this year would be one for him to develop.
Just brutal if it’s a torn ACL. I just watched the play - that it was non-contact isn’t good. Maybe it was a cramp.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’m looking forward to the Bryce Young era.
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't have access to the game like you homers, but I saw it on Twitter. It looked...like nothing. Then he couldn't really get up. Oh God.
One of the worst parts of this is that he's my fantasy backup QB. I now have Marcus Mariota as a backup to Mahomes. Oof.
One of the worst parts of this is that he's my fantasy backup QB. I now have Marcus Mariota as a backup to Mahomes. Oof.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I’m so sorry guys. That just sucks.
babydemon90
Footballguy
I feel like that's not really all that high on the "worst parts of this" list, but I'm not a Jets fan so cant be sure.
rockaction
Footballguy
It was sort of tongue-in-cheek. I know nobody cares. For me, it's a double whammy. I spent the 2.11 in a QB-needy, IDP league on the guy and he just hasn't been as advertised. Now, he's hurt. And we won't get to see what he could do -- what his mastery of the offense was.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Sucks. Sorry folks. Was really rooting for him.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I mean, this honestly might be the final nail in the coffin for the fan base.
The vast majority of us have become totally emotionally checked out over this team. This group (Assuming Zach was good, which was obviously still up in the air) provided some hope and excitement. Now he's probably done and I honestly dont see any reason to watch a Joe Flacco led team fight their way to 6 wins. Who cares?
So we lose Zach for the year....obviously they're going to be bad...but they wont draft a QB...and a year from now we're gonna be sitting around wondering if he's good. And if he's not good next year coming off the knee....they'll have to make the decision on his 5th year option having no idea what they actually have.
Just absolutely cursed. Now all I'm thinking about his how they're gonna waste the rookie deals of this year's draft class not even knowing if they have a QB to build around.
The vast majority of us have become totally emotionally checked out over this team. This group (Assuming Zach was good, which was obviously still up in the air) provided some hope and excitement. Now he's probably done and I honestly dont see any reason to watch a Joe Flacco led team fight their way to 6 wins. Who cares?
So we lose Zach for the year....obviously they're going to be bad...but they wont draft a QB...and a year from now we're gonna be sitting around wondering if he's good. And if he's not good next year coming off the knee....they'll have to make the decision on his 5th year option having no idea what they actually have.
Just absolutely cursed. Now all I'm thinking about his how they're gonna waste the rookie deals of this year's draft class not even knowing if they have a QB to build around.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You’re obviously not watching Strevlyer carve up the Eagles D.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Sam Darnold is likely available.
facook
Footballguy
Not a Jets fan, but if I were and ZW is done for the year:
Start White all year and hope for 2 wins. Draft one of the stud QBs next year and let a recovering Wilson fight it out with them. Nothing wrong with two QBs on rookie deals and taking another year to figure out which we keep and which we trade/let go.
Am I crazy?
Start White all year and hope for 2 wins. Draft one of the stud QBs next year and let a recovering Wilson fight it out with them. Nothing wrong with two QBs on rookie deals and taking another year to figure out which we keep and which we trade/let go.
Am I crazy?
bostonfred
Footballguy
I've been saying all along that what the Jets need to do is spend a top pick on a quarterback
TLEF316
Footballguy
From a practical standpoint, trading for Garapolo is the best option. They just can't be a 4-5 win team again. They're not gonna draft a QB. It just isn't going to happen. And you know that they'd never be bad enough to get Anderson (who looks like a generational pass rusher) so "tanking" again would be pointless. At some point you have to TRY and win games, especially with how much they invested in the team this off-season.
That being said, watching a team led by Garapolo does nothing for me. So it will be another Fall of Sunday afternoons on the golf course if that's the case. I'll root for respectability the development of some key pieces, but I wont be able to stomach actually watching them play.
That being said, watching a team led by Garapolo does nothing for me. So it will be another Fall of Sunday afternoons on the golf course if that's the case. I'll root for respectability the development of some key pieces, but I wont be able to stomach actually watching them play.
I think trading for Garoppolo would be insane. They'd have to give up draft pick compensation, spend a bunch of cap $, all for what, to weaken their draft position? Even if they wouldn't draft a QB (a big "if"), having a top 3ish draft pick is worth so much more than say the 8-10th pick.
And I hate to break it to you, but they absolutely could be bad enough to get Anderson, I'd say it's more likely than not at this point (unless they do something dumb like trade for Garoppolo of course).
TLEF316
Footballguy
You can only tank for so long. They've been terrible for years now. The fan base is simply not gonna tolerate meaningless football in Early November again with the promise of things to come. We're over it.
I completely agree that getting Garapolo and winning 8 games is mostly pointless. But if the plan is 17 games of Flacco that building is going to be EMPTY.
And if history has shown us anything, its that even if they were in a position to grab a generational talent....they'd win a meaningless game in week 14 or 15 to screw it up. Its just what we do.
If they win 3 games this year and we go into next year not even knowing if we have a QB, Douglas and Saleh will be on the hot seat (fairly or unfairly). If they think getting Jimmy G can prevent that, I THINK they're gonna do it.
The whole situation just absolutely sucks.
zamboni
Footballguy
If it’s a long term injury for Zach, which seems to be the likely case, I’d like to see the Jets bring in Jimmy G if the cost isn’t that high. He’s at least shown that he can win with the right pieces around him, and the Jets do have that at the skill positions and hopefully the OL.
Would at least give some sort of hope - any hope - rather than watch them trudge out Flacco and/or White week after week.
Would at least give some sort of hope - any hope - rather than watch them trudge out Flacco and/or White week after week.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Twitters (including verified jets accts) are saying it may be PCL, wait for MRI tomorrow.
PCL = week or 2.
PCL = week or 2.
I think Jimmy G would make a ton of sense if Wilson is done. The Jets have added a ton of talent, on both sides of the ball. If they have even B- QB play, this is a potential playoff team. Its entirely within reason, that at least for 2022, this would be a net win. They already went in on Duane Brown, why not go Jimmy too? You can't and shouldn't just tank. You also can't/shouldn't just roll with Mike White.
The Jets arguably have as much offensive talent as SF does other than at TE. Sure, you can't bring Kyle Shanahan with, but its essentially the same offense, so the learning curve wouldn't be too steep for week 1 not to be a reasonable amount of time to be ready. I can't see SF holding out for too much on draft capital, this wouldn't be another Bradford deal. Maybe a 3rd at most, more likely a 4th with conditions in the same vein as Wentz.
Hopefully it just looked worse than it was, and all of this is moot.
The Jets arguably have as much offensive talent as SF does other than at TE. Sure, you can't bring Kyle Shanahan with, but its essentially the same offense, so the learning curve wouldn't be too steep for week 1 not to be a reasonable amount of time to be ready. I can't see SF holding out for too much on draft capital, this wouldn't be another Bradford deal. Maybe a 3rd at most, more likely a 4th with conditions in the same vein as Wentz.
Hopefully it just looked worse than it was, and all of this is moot.
I honestly think most fans would give a pass (this time). It's a sucky situation for sure, but it's because of an injury this time, not incompetence. Sacrificing some of their future (via draft picks and cap space) to try and win 6-7 games instead of 4-5 doesn't make sense IMO.
I think you're vastly overestimating this team and/or Garoppolo. Pretty sure they were predicted to win 5.5 games and have the #3 overall pick with Wilson, I don't think they'd have much of a shot at winning 8 games with Jimmy G. There will be meaning less games and empty buildings in early November again with or without him IMO. That early schedule is pretty brutal.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
No, it’s not.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I mean....I can't say this is an unfair position. The Jets were 4-13 last year with stats to match.
As (I think) a reasonable fan, I just saw a LOT of potential for improvement.....just based on getting back the guys that missed games last year
-Becton: The entire season (obviously that doesn't matter now)
- Lawson :the entire season
- Wilson: Basically 5 games
- Moore: 5 games
- Carter: 4 games
Then you add in the likely development of multiple high-ceiling young players (Wilson, Moore, AVT and others) plus the addition of several very good FA acquisitions....and the drafting of someone I THINK will be an offense-changing RB (as much as that can happen in 2022, with the NFL obviously being a passing league) and I really thought the 5.5 O/U was way low (assuming Wilson didn't stink). Yeah....the early schedule is brutal on paper. But I dont think a 3-5 start was impossible. (especially if Watson isn't playing). And the back of the schedule gets much easier.
But whatever....its potentially moot at this point (although reports this morning provide some optimism that we MIGHT have dodged a bullet here). But as a Jets fan, I'm obviously conditioned to be negative. So I still think we're gonna hear he's done for the year at some point this afternoon.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ok, a bit more than a bone bruise, but good news nonetheless.
Jets’ QB Zach Wilson has a bone bruise and a meniscus tear and is expected to miss 2-4 weeks, as @BrianCoz also reported. Wilson will undergo arthroscopic surgery to address and correct the injury. Jets consider it fortunate news.
Jets’ QB Zach Wilson has a bone bruise and a meniscus tear and is expected to miss 2-4 weeks, as @BrianCoz also reported. Wilson will undergo arthroscopic surgery to address and correct the injury. Jets consider it fortunate news.
I think most fans consider themselves reasonable, but we're really not lol. There's always a lot of potential for improvement, but rarely does it all come to fruition and there's also potential for a dropoff. Plus as you said, they were so bad last year that winning 5-6 games this year would be a pretty decent improvement.
No, a 3-5 start isn't impossible, but neither is 1-7. 2-6 is probably about right, and their next 2 game are very tough as well, so 2-8, maybe 3-7. Any given Sunday and all that, but that's more reasonable.
Glad it seems like it's moot, but I just think bringing in someone like Garoppolo would've been a bad move. Heck, they couldn't even come close to fitting him under the cap now, so they'd have to restructure and/or cut multiple other players just to do it. He makes sense for someone like the Browns, but it would have been couter-productive for someone like the Jets IMO.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
The Jets dodged a bullet last night. While I don't think the offense would have suffered without Wilson (that INT was brutal), it obviously would have been terrible to delay his development another year.
I like this Knight kid. They should give him Coleman's spot on the roster. What's the point of having old man Coleman who isn't getting any better.
Biggest surprise out of camp has to be Zuniga. We thought he was left on the on the giant draft bust pile to rot, but maybe he sticks around after all.
Herbig seems to be good depth on the interior o-line.
Tanzel Smart had a good game.
Calvin Jackson WR has shown some flashes this summer.
Streveler looked pretty good for a QB with almost no practice time in camp. He might end up on the ps.
Our starting defense looked like poo, but without Lawson playing and basically vanilla packages, it's hard to judge too harshly.
I like this Knight kid. They should give him Coleman's spot on the roster. What's the point of having old man Coleman who isn't getting any better.
Biggest surprise out of camp has to be Zuniga. We thought he was left on the on the giant draft bust pile to rot, but maybe he sticks around after all.
Herbig seems to be good depth on the interior o-line.
Tanzel Smart had a good game.
Calvin Jackson WR has shown some flashes this summer.
Streveler looked pretty good for a QB with almost no practice time in camp. He might end up on the ps.
Our starting defense looked like poo, but without Lawson playing and basically vanilla packages, it's hard to judge too harshly.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Also hope they keep Knight. If they lose him off the practice squad because they kept Coleman that’s a bad mistake. Coleman offers nothing.
RC94
Footballguy
Does Coleman play special teams? If not, I doubt he sticks around.
Good news about Wilson. Even if he misses the first 2 weeks of the regular season, which sounds like it would be on the worse side for this injury, it's still gives him plenty of time to show whether he can be the long term answer or not. The worst would be a situation like with Daniel Jones where even after 3 years of poor play they still aren't sure. I think the Jets have the supporting cast on offense where if Wilson doesn't show significant improvement, you can't blame it on everyone else like so many people have with Jones.
Good news about Wilson. Even if he misses the first 2 weeks of the regular season, which sounds like it would be on the worse side for this injury, it's still gives him plenty of time to show whether he can be the long term answer or not. The worst would be a situation like with Daniel Jones where even after 3 years of poor play they still aren't sure. I think the Jets have the supporting cast on offense where if Wilson doesn't show significant improvement, you can't blame it on everyone else like so many people have with Jones.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He returned a punt last night.
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