2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (11 Viewers)

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Eagles free agency update:

Signing with Eagles:
RB Rashaad Penny

Staying in Philly:
C Jason Kelce
DE Brandon Graham

Leaving:
LB T.J. Edwards: Bears
DT Javon Hargrave: 49ers
OT Andre Dillard: Titans
S Marcus Epps: Raiders

just fyi, i been updating my post on the first page (like half way down) of this thread with FA statuses if u ever need a quick look. gonna update White signing now.

 

[Deamon]

ya apparently it's 1 year but no clue on dollar amount yet. I don't mind if we take a RB late rounds I guess.

Only makes sense to go Gainwell, Penny and a rookie at this point.

Maybe there really was nothing to see with Sermon. Thought he might be rejuvinated here but I guess we'll see if he makes the squad or not (obviously if we draft a RB in any round, Sermon is gone)

 

[Insein]

Boston Scott back. For $2m.

 

[The Noid]

With Penny, Scott, Gainwell, and Trey Sermon having 1 year left on his deal, I seriously doubt we use one of our (limited amount of) draft picks on a RB next month.

More likely they take UDFA swing there.

 

[Insein]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

 

[Deamon]

Boston Scott back. For $2m.

Wow. This confirms no rb drafted. We don't have many picks anyways

 

[Terpman22]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Wow, he was the guy I thought for sure was a goner. Can we *still* also somehow get CJ back??

 

[Deamon]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

How affordable was he?

 

[Deamon]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Wow, he was the guy I thought for sure was a goner. Can we *still* also somehow get CJ back??

If we get cj back Im good with this off-season.

 

[The Noid]

If that’s the market for a CB like Bradberry (even factoring in a hometown discount), I think we see Slay take the restructure which opens up cap and then CJGJ re-signs, too.

 

[Deamon]

If Slay comes back, does this take us out of the 1st round CB market? I know if the right player is there we'll always take him, but might not be the big need we thought we had and could mean a trade back for sure (unless a stud de slips)

 

[Deamon]

If that’s the market for a CB like Bradberry (even factoring in a hometown discount), I think we see Slay take the restructure which opens up cap and then CJGJ re-signs, too.

Would be such a dream.

Then we can just focus on the trenches in the draft.

 

[Deamon]

Do "incentives" come off the cap or how does that all work?

 

[Terpman22]

Howie always cooks a fine dish.

 

[The Noid]

If Slay comes back, does this take us out of the 1st round CB market? I know if the right player is there we'll always take him, but might not be the big need we thought we had and could mean a trade back for sure (unless a stud de slips)

No, I still think it’s on the table with both of them being 30+ yo.

 

[The Noid]

Do "incentives" come off the cap or how does that all work?

Yes, teams have to leave room/account for it. If it doesn’t get met, that cap space gets carried over.

 

[Deamon]

Do "incentives" come off the cap or how does that all work?

Yes, teams have to leave room/account for it. If it doesn’t get met, that cap space gets carried over.

Still doesn't seem like too huge of a hit for him. Seems reasonable.

 

[Terpman22]

Don't underestimate the Jalen Hurts effect on these sort of moves. He single handedly is responsible for the re-signings of Kelce, BG and now Bradberry.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Wow, he was the guy I thought for sure was a goner. Can we *still* also somehow get CJ back??

Good job there, they definitely chose the right CB to keep imo. It looks more and more like the BPA at 1.10 will be CB to pair with Bradberry.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I'm kinda just catching up on things with Philly because I've been following Chicago's train ride, but Howie really deserves a ton of credit. The man is a master manipulator of the cap and it would not shock me if they still have the money to re-sign CJGJ and get Hurts his new contract. Hell, I think Slay might even decide to agree to a restructure, but that might be out of necessity.
You also can't count out the team culture when it comes to keeping these FA. Kelce, Graham, Hurts are all key to this. The players genuinely seem to love the team and city and will do what it takes (within reason I guess) to stay.

 

[DJackson10]

In for a Penny, in for a Pound.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1635720656242212865?t=6Ad3ujp6cyRAdak1DYZrMg&s=19

I like this signing I think he could be an underrated signing and be one of the best 1 yr contracts of the offseason. Always like Penny but he was either hurt at times or behind other guys and just never given as many oppurtunities as he should've had

 

[DJackson10]

Cardinals Sign Kyzir White 2/11M

So looks like Dean and either a signing or another Draft guy. At this point you can't even rule out Howie trading back from Ten and even trading out of the last 1st rounder for more picks. They really need to add young cheap talent right now

 

[DJackson10]

ya apparently it's 1 year but no clue on dollar amount yet. I don't mind if we take a RB late rounds I guess.

Only makes sense to go Gainwell, Penny and a rookie at this point.

Yeah man. The dream of Bijan (even though it would cost a lot) seems to be just that. Realistically was hoping for Gibbs, but it might be a later guy in the 3rd/4th round vs a higher pick at this point.

You can get a good guy late. One guy I've been drafting late in mocks is Christian Rodriquez JR from Kentucky. If he's there later half of the 6th round I think he could be a steal. if they want to go Early the guy from UCLA or Zach Evans From Ole Miss are options.

 

[DJackson10]

it was a long shot, but there was speculation re: howie's ties with Kareem Hunt. guess that's not possible now. i'm a little disappointed, hunt > penny imo, as a player.

Hunt is a scumbag who shouldn't even be playing football right now. Honestly would be pissed if we signed that guy.

 

[DJackson10]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Close to his spotrac projection too so its a fair signing

 

[DJackson10]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Wow, he was the guy I thought for sure was a goner. Can we *still* also somehow get CJ back??

Good job there, they definitely chose the right CB to keep imo. It looks more and more like the BPA at 1.10 will be CB to pair with Bradberry.

Knowing Howie I see him trading back on this one. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets to 15 he trades down a bit further to add more picks.

 

[DJackson10]

Dolphins are good too

Dolphins just got harder with Ramsey now there.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Wow, he was the guy I thought for sure was a goner. Can we *still* also somehow get CJ back??

Good job there, they definitely chose the right CB to keep imo. It looks more and more like the BPA at 1.10 will be CB to pair with Bradberry.

Knowing Howie I see him trading back on this one. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets to 15 he trades down a bit further to add more picks.

I think it depends on Slay. If they lose him, you could get his replacement at 10. You'd likely have your pick of the position since most mocks have the first CB going around than.

 

[Futeki]

Do "incentives" come off the cap or how does that all work?

Yes, teams have to leave room/account for it. If it doesn’t get met, that cap space gets carried over.

The incentives deemed by the NFL as "likely to be earned" count in the current year. The rest count the following year if met.

 

[Amused to Death]

Bradberry is back.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1635755195094249473?t=nrif-jcL7HDSe9Ikx8GLlg&s=19

Wow, he was the guy I thought for sure was a goner. Can we *still* also somehow get CJ back??

Good job there, they definitely chose the right CB to keep imo. It looks more and more like the BPA at 1.10 will be CB to pair with Bradberry.

Knowing Howie I see him trading back on this one. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets to 15 he trades down a bit further to add more picks.

Unless Jaylen Carter is sitting there at 10, I'll be mildly surprised if they don't trade back.

 

[Amused to Death]

Dolphins are good too

Dolphins just got harder with Ramsey now there.

So did their fans.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Boston Scott back. For $2m.

Rashaad Penny's contract is a 1 year deal worth max 2.1 mil with 600k guaranteed

 

[Deamon]

Boston Scott back. For $2m.

Rashaad Penny's contract is a 1 year deal worth max 2.1 mil with 600k guaranteed

oh wow that's pennies

 

[Deamon]

Stolen from Sheil Kapadia, over the last two years there have been 56 RB's with at least 150 carries. Out of those 56 Rb's Penny is #1 in YPC and yards after contact.

Also per Sheil if you go all the way back to the year 2000 there have 247 RB's with at least 300 carries. Penny is one of them and is #1 in YPC.

In the last two years Penny is also #2 in the league in explosive plays per run.

Good stuff right here. Now imagine with this OL.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I realize it doesn’t rhyme, but the topic title needs to reflect the return of Boston Scott.

 

[Insein]

Penny, Gainwell and Scott sounds like a law firm.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Stolen from Sheil Kapadia, over the last two years there have been 56 RB's with at least 150 carries. Out of those 56 Rb's Penny is #1 in YPC and yards after contact.

Also per Sheil if you go all the way back to the year 2000 there have 247 RB's with at least 300 carries. Penny is one of them and is #1 in YPC.

In the last two years Penny is also #2 in the league in explosive plays per run.

Good stuff right here. Now imagine with this OL.

Rule #1: You can't help the club in the tub. Penny is peanut brittle. If they get 8 healthy games out of him, then they're ahead of the game.

 

[The Noid]

I realize it doesn’t rhyme, but the topic title needs to reflect the return of Boston Scott.

They only brought him back to play two games

 

[The Noid]

Stolen from Sheil Kapadia, over the last two years there have been 56 RB's with at least 150 carries. Out of those 56 Rb's Penny is #1 in YPC and yards after contact.

Also per Sheil if you go all the way back to the year 2000 there have 247 RB's with at least 300 carries. Penny is one of them and is #1 in YPC.

In the last two years Penny is also #2 in the league in explosive plays per run.

Good stuff right here. Now imagine with this OL.

Rule #1: You can't help the club in the tub. Penny is peanut brittle. If they get 8 healthy games out of him, then they're ahead of the game.

Right. Also from Sheil: he’s only had 10 or more rushes in 5 consecutive games once in his 5 seasons.

It’s low risk/high reward.

 

[Terpman22]

Today would be a great day to announce CJ Gardner-Johnson is coming back and Slay is for sure too.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Today would be a great day to announce CJ Gardner-Johnson is coming back and Slay is for sure too.

Would they have to restructure Slay first before doing a CJGJ deal?

 

[Terpman22]

Today would be a great day to announce CJ Gardner-Johnson is coming back and Slay is for sure too.

Would they have to restructure Slay first before doing a CJGJ deal?

Ya know, I don't know much, but I believe a couple of big contracts like Lane Johnson restructure could make some instant avail cap room.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Today would be a great day to announce CJ Gardner-Johnson is coming back and Slay is for sure too.

Would they have to restructure Slay first before doing a CJGJ deal?

Ya know, I don't know much, but I believe a couple of big contracts like Lane Johnson restructure could make some instant avail cap room.

According to overthecap (https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles)

Slay restructure opens $12.2M
Johnson restructure opens $10.5

Cutting or trading Slay doesn't really do much for Philly unless it's post June 1. Restructure seems like the most viable option here.

 

[Terpman22]

Today would be a great day to announce CJ Gardner-Johnson is coming back and Slay is for sure too.

Would they have to restructure Slay first before doing a CJGJ deal?

Ya know, I don't know much, but I believe a couple of big contracts like Lane Johnson restructure could make some instant avail cap room.

According to overthecap (https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles)

Slay restructure opens $12.2M
Johnson restructure opens $10.5

Cutting or trading Slay doesn't really do much for Philly unless it's post June 1. Restructure seems like the most viable option here.

Yeah, its just I think we/they all expect Lane to be more the better player as the years go by and according to some, Slay was a little "not so great" in the 2nd half of last year as he was the first year.

Either way, lets get it done Howie! A Lane restructure that is...

 

[Terpman22]

Per the Athletic, a good chance the Eagles release Slay today



edit now Rapsheet saying the same wow

 

[massraider]

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Eagles have a post-June 1 release opening after Jason Kelce and Brandon Graham returned. Designating Slay as such would save $17.5 million in cap space vs. $3.7, per Over The Cap.

 

[Insein]

Yea Slay gone. Can't rule out him coming back if he doesn't find what he wants out there but probably gone.

 

[Terpman22]

Yea Slay gone. Can't rule out him coming back if he doesn't find what he wants out there but probably gone.

Yeah he's a prideful guy, and he didn't congratulate Bradberry on his deal. I'm sure he is a little bit feeling spurned. CB #10 is a lock now.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Yea Slay gone. Can't rule out him coming back if he doesn't find what he wants out there but probably gone.

Emotions aside this is the right move. Keep the younger cheaper guy and go get one in the draft, trade or cheap FA.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hope the Niners are aggressive with Slay. Perfect fit for a glaring need. Eagles a lock for a corner at 10, and they picked a good year for it.