2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (5 Viewers)

[DJackson10]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

Yeah I get the point from last night. We give up probably 500 yrs passing if KC has better catching.

I also think our defensive talent is a tad overrated. I know people like Blankenship but he’s a jag at best and should be a good back up. Sidney brown looks less than impressive. Slay has lost another step and Bradberry at times seems like he doesn’t care. Losing Maddox in the slot hurts but really with the amount of games he’s missed over the last 2-3 yrs does it matter? Byard was a decent get. Having vets like BG and Cox are nice but this defebse really needs a true revamp. The DB unit needs a demolishing and rebuild from ground up. One of slay/bradberry is traded our cut after this season imho. Sweat is ok but hasn’t done much this year. Reddick has been on and off. Not sure why Nolan smith isn’t getting more time.

This secondary needs a total rebuild.

Blakenship is my favorite player. Whats so good about him is he doesnt miss a tackle. Not the fastest on the field, but always in the right position. I think he may be the defensive MVP.

I don’t mind the player I just don’t think he should be a consistent starting safety every game. 3rd guy in absolutely

 

[DJackson10]

I have a question, kinda off topic:

So, next season I really want to catch a game. Preferably before it gets cold but not too hot either. So September-October ideally.

Anyways, I’m a Texan so I could go to a Dallas game at Jerry World. However, I really want to experience a game in Philly. I know the energy will be crazy.

You guys think it’s worth it to make a such a trip? Probably would be 3-4 days as I would want to explore the city a little bit, and as a foodie I’d want to check out some hidden gems. Maybe check out the nightlife.

What do you guys think?

Independence Hall is worth the trip

Do is the city tour bus. It was $30 when I last did it but it’s a drop off hop on goes to zoo, art museum, market district, Betsy Ross house etc. If he’s there for 4 days they sell like 3-4 day passes. It’s like having a public transit pass

 

[DJackson10]

Andy Reid punting on 4th and 4 from the Eagles 39 was as big as any other play in this game.

Needed to step on our neck but didn’t have the testicular fortitude to do it.

You got Harrison Butker too could’ve gone for the FG. Then again not sure if weather played into not kicking a FG at least.

 

[DJackson10]

I have a question, kinda off topic:

So, next season I really want to catch a game. Preferably before it gets cold but not too hot either. So September-October ideally.

Anyways, I’m a Texan so I could go to a Dallas game at Jerry World. However, I really want to experience a game in Philly. I know the energy will be crazy.

You guys think it’s worth it to make a such a trip? Probably would be 3-4 days as I would want to explore the city a little bit, and as a foodie I’d want to check out some hidden gems. Maybe check out the nightlife.

What do you guys think?

I have done both. You can't go wrong either way. Jerry world is a great stadium. Walking around Philly is fun too. Obviously be more money and time to travel to philly. Definitely do one of these though

Jerry World, meh to me. Its big. but appears to have been built by the lowest bidder. The upper levels are VERY steep. And the game I went to, they frickin ran out of BBQ sauce at halftime. A stadium, in Texas, running outta BBQ at halftime. Seems like a sin to me. Didn't help this was the MNF game in 2021 where they absolutely blasted us either lol.

I actually went to Jerry World last year for Wrestlemania. It’s big and pretty, and popcorn + drink was $30. I bought my friend a drink too so it was $40.

Yeah 15 dollar miller lights

Yeah I was also kinda disappointeed at the VERY basic beer selection there. Even when I go to Houston w the inlaws, I'm like "Texas doesn't really do good beer" kinda really sad about that b/c I thought those boys loved to drink down there, but I guess its basic kinda stuff outside of Shiner Bock

It’s your typical bud and killer down there and maybe local beer guys stuff. It’s nothing like our craft beers etc.

 

[DJackson10]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

Yeah I get the point from last night. We give up probably 500 yrs passing if KC has better catching.

I also think our defensive talent is a tad overrated. I know people like Blankenship but he’s a jag at best and should be a good back up. Sidney brown looks less than impressive. Slay has lost another step and Bradberry at times seems like he doesn’t care. Losing Maddox in the slot hurts but really with the amount of games he’s missed over the last 2-3 yrs does it matter? Byard was a decent get. Having vets like BG and Cox are nice but this defebse really needs a true revamp. The DB unit needs a demolishing and rebuild from ground up. One of slay/bradberry is traded our cut after this season imho. Sweat is ok but hasn’t done much this year. Reddick has been on and off. Not sure why Nolan smith isn’t getting more time.

This secondary needs a total rebuild.

There was smoke around Surtain and Johnson at the deadline. I think Howie is well aware that they need to get younger and more athletic at CB.

Johnson Chi wanted too much. The Surtain rumors I got more of a feeling from those I talked with was wishful thinking by many media and fans around the league. Like more of the trade everyone wants to see not oh this may happen.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Andy Reid punting on 4th and 4 from the Eagles 39 was as big as any other play in this game.

Needed to step on our neck but didn’t have the testicular fortitude to do it.

I was completely baffled by that. And not just because it was a touchback and they netted only 19 yards. You have the best QB in the game and a great defense, it's inexcusable not to go for it.

 

[Deamon]

This sums up being an Eagles fan perfectly

 

[Insein]

This sums up being an Eagles fan perfectly

Lol that's the edited version.

 

[Deamon]

We should’ve been blown out and on here today asking wtf did the team and coaches do to fix anything while on the bye. In fact they looked worse in the first half. The issue for me is this just isn’t sustainable winning. I get it all teams have flaws. Outs however are huge red flags. We’ve won a lot of games just from the sheer fact of our opponent shouting themselves in the foot or playing stupid football. I’m in the sane camp I want a few convincing wins now not hope another team makes low is football mistakes like stepping out, hoping other team drops passes and just hope we stay in the game long enough where we might get a lucky bounce.

We have a talented team but and I think if this was a lot of other teams in the nfl we’d have 4-5 legit losses right now because of said play. If it wasn’t for AJ brown so far this year we’d be lost. He’s my team mvp at this point with Swift in 2nd place

I can't even imagine how tough this winning stretch must be for you. Thoughts & Prayers.

 

[Deamon]

I have a question, kinda off topic:

So, next season I really want to catch a game. Preferably before it gets cold but not too hot either. So September-October ideally.

Anyways, I’m a Texan so I could go to a Dallas game at Jerry World. However, I really want to experience a game in Philly. I know the energy will be crazy.

You guys think it’s worth it to make a such a trip? Probably would be 3-4 days as I would want to explore the city a little bit, and as a foodie I’d want to check out some hidden gems. Maybe check out the nightlife.

What do you guys think?

I'm assuming you're an Eagles fan? You'll have an absolute blast either way.

I don't really get your "not too hot either"... don't think you'll have to worry about a regular season game being "too hot" as they start in September... but mid Sept-mid Oct is the PERFECT time to go. It'll be an experience of a lifetime for ya, you should do it for sure.

 

[Deamon]

This sums up being an Eagles fan perfectly

Lol that's the edited version.

Oh haha... whats the regular version?

 

[unckeyherb]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

Agree 1000% on the bolded. Eagles had no business winning that game

We should’ve been blown out and on here today asking wtf did the team and coaches do to fix anything while on the bye. In fact they looked worse in the first half. The issue for me is this just isn’t sustainable winning. I get it all teams have flaws. Outs however are huge red flags. We’ve won a lot of games just from the sheer fact of our opponent shouting themselves in the foot or playing stupid football. I’m in the sane camp I want a few convincing wins now not hope another team makes low is football mistakes like stepping out, hoping other team drops passes and just hope we stay in the game long enough where we might get a lucky bounce.

We have a talented team but and I think if this was a lot of other teams in the nfl we’d have 4-5 legit losses right now because of said play. If it wasn’t for AJ brown so far this year we’d be lost. He’s my team mvp at this point with Swift in 2nd place

Lol man, these guys basically never lose. They've sustained the best record in the NFL for the last 30 weeks. They just beat the defending Super Bowl Champions IN ARROWHEAD with their HOF coach coming off a bye-something that is known by all as basically being impossible to do-and holding their HOF QB to precisely ZERO points in the second half of the game.

 

[Insein]

This sums up being an Eagles fan perfectly

Lol that's the edited version.

Oh haha... whats the regular version?

The middle part says "I want to unalive myself."

 

[Wingnut]

Sean Desai coached this defense up to allow zero points in the 2nd half against Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs.

Not really hard to do this season. The Chiefs have scored zero 2nd half points the last 3 weeks (vs Eagles, Dolphins, and Broncos)

Link

The Chiefs are 32nd in the NFL in second half points per game with just 5.3, (and they're the third worst 2nd half scoring team thru the first 10 games since 2013)

Teams with the fewest 2nd half points in the first 10 games of season since 2013:

* 2019 Dolphins (37)
* 2016 Browns (51)
* 2023 Chiefs (53)

The 2016 Browns were 1-15 that season.
The 2019 Dolphins were 5-11.

 

[Terpman22]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

Agree 1000% on the bolded. Eagles had no business winning that game

We should’ve been blown out and on here today asking wtf did the team and coaches do to fix anything while on the bye. In fact they looked worse in the first half. The issue for me is this just isn’t sustainable winning. I get it all teams have flaws. Outs however are huge red flags. We’ve won a lot of games just from the sheer fact of our opponent shouting themselves in the foot or playing stupid football. I’m in the sane camp I want a few convincing wins now not hope another team makes low is football mistakes like stepping out, hoping other team drops passes and just hope we stay in the game long enough where we might get a lucky bounce.

We have a talented team but and I think if this was a lot of other teams in the nfl we’d have 4-5 legit losses right now because of said play. If it wasn’t for AJ brown so far this year we’d be lost. He’s my team mvp at this point with Swift in 2nd place

Lol man, these guys basically never lose. They've sustained the best record in the NFL for the last 30 weeks. They just beat the defending Super Bowl Champions IN ARROWHEAD with their HOF coach coming off a bye-something that is known by all as basically being impossible to do-and holding their HOF QB to precisely ZERO points in the second half of the game.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

 

[renesauz]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

This is a bit harsh. IN the first half HUrts was looking to throw mid range and occasionally deep, rarely short...and he got pummelled. Adjustments were made, and he was throwing those short routes suddenly...lo and behold sacks went away, and while we still had a few three and outs we also put together a couple long TD drives and pulled out the Win. We don't hafta like the WR screens, but it's a good adjustment when your QB has no time to look downfield. Then when Buffalo started adjusting Hurts took advantage and hit them over the top to Smith. It was a beautiful thing.

KC WR drops certainly helped us, but I'm not sure if you noticed a change in HOW we rushed him in the second half. IN the first half the WRs were well covered, but Mahomes repeatedly escaped pressure and ran all over the place. They should have scored more but we managed a redzone turnover. The second half rush tended to leave fewer escape routes. Yes the WRs had better opportunities, but clearly it was the better choice to contain Mahomes running lanes at that expense because they couldn't fully take advantage.

It wasn't pretty, but KC is a good team, and Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL right now. We don't make those kinds of adjustments last year. This isn't a glass half empty scenario, it's a glass mostly full one.

 

[Deamon]

Updated SB Odds:

	Kansas City Chiefs	+450
	Philadelphia Eagles	+450
	San Francisco 49ers	+450
	Baltimore Ravens	+800
	Miami Dolphins	+900
	Dallas Cowboys	+1000
	Detroit Lions	+1000

 

[Snotbubbles]

We should’ve been blown out and on here today asking wtf did the team and coaches do to fix anything while on the bye. In fact they looked worse in the first half. The issue for me is this just isn’t sustainable winning. I get it all teams have flaws. Outs however are huge red flags. We’ve won a lot of games just from the sheer fact of our opponent shouting themselves in the foot or playing stupid football. I’m in the sane camp I want a few convincing wins now not hope another team makes low is football mistakes like stepping out, hoping other team drops passes and just hope we stay in the game long enough where we might get a lucky bounce.

We have a talented team but and I think if this was a lot of other teams in the nfl we’d have 4-5 legit losses right now because of said play. If it wasn’t for AJ brown so far this year we’d be lost. He’s my team mvp at this point with Swift in 2nd place

I can't even imagine how tough this winning stretch must be for you. Thoughts & Prayers.

@DJackson10

We just beat the Kansas City Chiefs. At Arrowhead. After Andy Reid had 2 weeks to prepare. That is impressive. In my best Samuel L. Jackson voice, I don't want hear about no mother f'in "ifs".

 

[ProstheticRGK]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

Agree 1000% on the bolded. Eagles had no business winning that game

I totally disagree. Bad WR's drop passes. We capitalized on that. Poser QB's do stupid things like that and we capitalized on it. Elite QB's make bad throws in the end zone. We capitalized on that and jumped for an interception. Elite TE's sometimes are susceptible to drops or ball protection issues. We capitalized on that and punched out a fumble. At what point do we recognize that this is football and this **** happens in every game. We aren't lucky, We just win. We held the best QB in the league to zero points for the second half of the game. When we needed our offense to step up and score, they scored. When we needed the punt crew to pin them back deep in their territory, they did exactly that. At the end of the game, when we need a sack, Cox gets home. We absolutely deserved to win that game because when we NEED to make a play, we make the play. I'd wager that 90%+ of the teams in the NFL lose that game.

Get on board y'all, this is some of the best stretch of football we may ever see from this team. We may not lose another game.

Play that game 100 times KC wins 70 of them IMHO

Maybe. Maybe not. Doesn't matter. The point is we did what needed to be done to win the game that counted. Are the Chiefs lucky that Brown ran a different route than Jalen called and Jalen threw the correct route-which turned into an INT? Are the Eagles lucky that Reid punted a net 15 yards rather than go for it on 4th down? Or was that just a bad call in the moment. You can always zoom in on a specific play and point to it as evidence of luck, but I don't like to look at it like that.

I'm with you, man. I've been beating that drum all year long. If a team is lucky all year long, I don't think it's just luck. 1-2 games, maybe. But to be 9-1 and consistently pull out games that are close and end up with the win has more to do with the team and the coaching than lucky bounces, or refs "calling the game for Philly "

This team is pretty clutch. They come through in big moments. I think that has everything to do with team culture: coaching, team leadership and veteran presence.

 

[Deamon]

For the criticism that the Eagles coordinators get in here, why not praise for how prepared the team appears to be in the 2nd half of games? They keep pulling these wins out so I assume the coaches are making good adjustments at halftime.

It’s easier to criticize than have an in depth conversation. Let’s blame X as the popular move when that’s just the tip of the issue.

Coordinators are more than the tip of the iceberg. They’re a very large part of it.

There’s time to praise them but I don’t know if last night was a good example.

Was Desai’s adjustment to let receivers run free and have them realize they were so open that they became distracted, and dropped the ball?

What was Brian Johnson’s adjustment? Call
More screens and QB runs on 2nd and 22? Or to tell Jalen that “when I call a crap play change it?”

I don’t like having to hope my QB improvises on every play to do well.

I don’t like having to hope for dropped passes or guys to step out of bounds so they don’t score.

Agree 1000% on the bolded. Eagles had no business winning that game

I totally disagree. Bad WR's drop passes. We capitalized on that. Poser QB's do stupid things like that and we capitalized on it. Elite QB's make bad throws in the end zone. We capitalized on that and jumped for an interception. Elite TE's sometimes are susceptible to drops or ball protection issues. We capitalized on that and punched out a fumble. At what point do we recognize that this is football and this **** happens in every game. We aren't lucky, We just win. We held the best QB in the league to zero points for the second half of the game. When we needed our offense to step up and score, they scored. When we needed the punt crew to pin them back deep in their territory, they did exactly that. At the end of the game, when we need a sack, Cox gets home. We absolutely deserved to win that game because when we NEED to make a play, we make the play. I'd wager that 90%+ of the teams in the NFL lose that game.

Get on board y'all, this is some of the best stretch of football we may ever see from this team. We may not lose another game.

Play that game 100 times KC wins 70 of them IMHO

Maybe. Maybe not. Doesn't matter. The point is we did what needed to be done to win the game that counted. Are the Chiefs lucky that Brown ran a different route than Jalen called and Jalen threw the correct route-which turned into an INT? Are the Eagles lucky that Reid punted a net 15 yards rather than go for it on 4th down? Or was that just a bad call in the moment. You can always zoom in on a specific play and point to it as evidence of luck, but I don't like to look at it like that.

I'm with you, man. I've been beating that drum all year long. If a team is lucky all year long, I don't think it's just luck. 1-2 games, maybe. But to be 9-1 and consistently pull out games that are close and end up with the win has more to do with the team and the coaching than lucky bounces, or refs "calling the game for Philly "

This team is pretty clutch. They come through in big moments. I think that has everything to do with team culture: coaching, team leadership and veteran presence.

It sure is nice. As a Philly fan I'm used to too many talented teams coming up just short. The other way around where we don't look dominant, but keep winning, definitely relieves a lot of angry Sundays/Mondays.

 

[jasvic]

Some random thoughts.

• I don't understand the luck talk. Unless the ball is taking weird bounces or deflections, it isn't luck. KC as a team is leading the league (or close to it) in dropped passes. It's who they are this year. When the other team plays poorly, Eagles are lucky. Eagles play poorly and they deserve to die in a fire? Very weird take.
• That being said, after 10 games everyone needs to stop waiting for the Eagles to play a complete game. Players, fans, keep saying it's going to happen like it's inevitable. Maybe this is what they are, a bit of a sloppy mess, but finding ways to win.
• Sloppy play takes me to coaching. OC feels like he's hitting the random button in Madden sometimes. No flow, nothing setting up future plays. Generally baffling decisions. My "favorite" last night was after a failed WR screen to the left, he tries a failed WR screen to the right. Maddening. The go ahead pass to Smith was an audible by Hurts, so what is Johnson bringing to the table?
• Desai is a better DC than Gannon, but that's a low bar and doesn't mean Desai is actually good. Still hate this style of defense, but we're stuck with it for now and at least dude makes adjustments and tries some different things. He's done more with less.
• Been a little disappointed with the oline this year, but that's because my expectations are so ridiculously high. Lane now just looks great instead of his usual best lineman in the game. I wonder how much longer he and Kelce will play. I'm sure Kelce would have retired if they won last year. Those are big shoes to fill. We've been so spoiled for so long and I don't want it to end!
• Hurts is legit. To say otherwise is being a hater, nothing else. He isn't perfect, no QB is. Did you see the errant throws Mahomes had last night? But how can you watch this guy play and not be thrilled he's on your team? Does he still have room for improvement? Yup. Is he still very young and can possibly improve? Also, yup.
• As frustrating as they've been to watch at times, they still have the best record in football. Ugly wins beat pretty losses every time, so enjoy the ride!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I don't understand the luck talk.

It’s really not that hard to understand or accept if you’re watching the games. I’m a huge fan but I’m not blind.

You can enjoy the wins, be happy all while acknowledging we’ve dodged some bullets. It’s ok to do both. You’re not locked into one or the other.

It’s nice we are winning games while down 10 every week. It’s nice we are winning while the OC looks like crap. It’s nice when WR’s are running free and dropping passes for huge gains. Thinking we are willing these mistakes by the other team, influencing it in any way or that it’s sustainable is downright foolish.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and Eagles averaged 28.9 million viewers on Monday Night Football.

That makes it the most-watched MNF game in over 25 years and easily the most-watched NFL game this season.

 

[DJackson10]

I don't understand the luck talk.

It’s really not that hard to understand or accept if you’re watching the games. I’m a huge fan but I’m not blind.

You can enjoy the wins, be happy all while acknowledging we’ve dodged some bullets. It’s ok to do both. You’re not locked into one or the other.

It’s nice we are winning games while down 10 every week. It’s nice we are winning while the OC looks like crap. It’s nice when WR’s are running free and dropping passes for huge gains. Thinking we are willing these mistakes by the other team, influencing it in any way or that it’s sustainable is downright foolish.

Like you said it’s like Stevie and bronciesxnot sustained success

 

[Ghost Rider]

Jeez, only Philly fans would think the sky is falling about their 9-1 team.

 

[Terpman22]

Jeez, only Philly fans would think the sky is falling about their 9-1 team.

We are a different breed. We are honest with ourselves. We don't have propaganda or large influential guys in the media market propping us up, nor chasing ratings to appease fans. We actually don't really care what the media thinks b/c we understand its all a business and they are gonna do what they gotta do to drive ratings. We understand the game. We are brutally honest and we then get s*** on very often b/c "we booed our players" We hold the players and the team accountable almost all the time. We don't all march to the beat of the same drum on the same exact topic with the same exact lines and retorts in sync across the entire fanbase like some weird cult. We really really REALLY love our team. So much in fact it *sometimes* goes a bit overboard in a negative way, but also in a positive way. And we don't take any s*** from other fanbases. That's how we are built. Love us, cool. Hate us, we don't really care either. And we will definitely NEVER let another fanbase take over our stadium to create some away home game for an opponent. But we sure seem to do that often for other teams.

It has been a VERY fun season and a half, but we still gotta lotta games to go and nothing is taken for granted.

Fly Eagles Fly baby!

 

[Pip's Invitation]

The Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and Eagles averaged 28.9 million viewers on Monday Night Football.

That makes it the most-watched MNF game in over 25 years and easily the most-watched NFL game this season.

And somebody in the game thread says people would tune out if these two teams ended up in the Super Bowl again.

 

[Terpman22]

The Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and Eagles averaged 28.9 million viewers on Monday Night Football.

That makes it the most-watched MNF game in over 25 years and easily the most-watched NFL game this season.

And somebody in the game thread says people would tune out if these two teams ended up in the Super Bowl again.

So far this season, the 3 most watched games are all Eagles games.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and Eagles averaged 28.9 million viewers on Monday Night Football.

That makes it the most-watched MNF game in over 25 years and easily the most-watched NFL game this season.

And somebody in the game thread says people would tune out if these two teams ended up in the Super Bowl again.

So far this season, the 3 most watched games are all Eagles games.

Most watched NFL games this season

1. Eagles vs Chiefs 28.9 million
2. Eagles vs Cowboys 27.14 million
3. Eagles vs Jets 26.09 million

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Jalen Hurts -- when tied or trailing this season

72.0%, 1,510 yards, 11 TD, 1 INT, 113.4 rating

Completion rate -- 2nd in NFL
INT rate (0.5%) -- 2nd in NFL
Passer rating -- 1st in NFL

44 carries, 204 yards, 6 TD (also leads NFL)

 

[Bigboy10182000]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

 

[Terpman22]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

How surprising. Definitely a great system they got going on over there.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

How surprising. Definitely a great system they got going on over there.

It’s perfectly consistent with their business model which prioritizes generating outrage among Philly fans.

The best way to deal with this is the same as the best way to deal with the Cowboys trolls: ignore it.

 

[ChiefD]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

That's just dumb. The Eagles are legit.

 

[Insein]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

How surprising. Definitely a great system they got going on over there.

When you realize their whole model is built on hate clicks, it makes perfect sense to rile up the biggest fan base.

 

[Terpman22]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

How surprising. Definitely a great system they got going on over there.

It’s perfectly consistent with their business model which prioritizes generating outrage among Philly fans.

The best way to deal with this is the same as the best way to deal with the Cowboys trolls: ignore it.

I mean I think they are just honestly catering to the largest audiences they have and that definitely starts with Cowboys fans. Those guys have been going after any media systems all year long if they are not praising their team and throwing roses at certain players' feet. They did this with the Patriots for the better part of 2 decades. They are just more about making money, generating ratings and igniting hot take convos. Its what the people want these days I guess. They are more in line with WWE style of "reporting" these days and the barstools kinda fanbase with them having McAfee and all their other loud characters. I stopped taking them seriously a long long time ago.

 

[jasvic]

I don't understand the luck talk.

It’s really not that hard to understand or accept if you’re watching the games. I’m a huge fan but I’m not blind.

You can enjoy the wins, be happy all while acknowledging we’ve dodged some bullets. It’s ok to do both. You’re not locked into one or the other.

It’s nice we are winning games while down 10 every week. It’s nice we are winning while the OC looks like crap. It’s nice when WR’s are running free and dropping passes for huge gains. Thinking we are willing these mistakes by the other team, influencing it in any way or that it’s sustainable is downright foolish.

Then we have different definitions of luck. If the other good team plays worse and makes more mistakes than our team, I don't consider that luck. And I agree, the way they have been winning is probably not sustainable and even addressed that in one of my points about the team being a sloppy mess, but how is that luck? Eagles are lucky the other team was bad? Makes no sense. If the Eagles play bad and lose, does that mean they were unlucky? The other team was lucky?

 

[unckeyherb]

I don't understand the luck talk.

It’s really not that hard to understand or accept if you’re watching the games. I’m a huge fan but I’m not blind.

You can enjoy the wins, be happy all while acknowledging we’ve dodged some bullets. It’s ok to do both. You’re not locked into one or the other.

It’s nice we are winning games while down 10 every week. It’s nice we are winning while the OC looks like crap. It’s nice when WR’s are running free and dropping passes for huge gains. Thinking we are willing these mistakes by the other team, influencing it in any way or that it’s sustainable is downright foolish.

Then we have different definitions of luck. If the other good team plays worse and makes more mistakes than our team, I don't consider that luck. And I agree, the way they have been winning is probably not sustainable and even addressed that in one of my points about the team being a sloppy mess, but how is that luck? Eagles are lucky the other team was bad? Makes no sense. If the Eagles play bad and lose, does that mean they were unlucky? The other team was lucky?

Right, were the Jets lucky when we turned the ball over 5 times? Or did they just capitalize on our uncharacteristic bad play and a bad team beat a good team.

 

[Terpman22]

I don't understand the luck talk.

It’s really not that hard to understand or accept if you’re watching the games. I’m a huge fan but I’m not blind.

You can enjoy the wins, be happy all while acknowledging we’ve dodged some bullets. It’s ok to do both. You’re not locked into one or the other.

It’s nice we are winning games while down 10 every week. It’s nice we are winning while the OC looks like crap. It’s nice when WR’s are running free and dropping passes for huge gains. Thinking we are willing these mistakes by the other team, influencing it in any way or that it’s sustainable is downright foolish.

Then we have different definitions of luck. If the other good team plays worse and makes more mistakes than our team, I don't consider that luck. And I agree, the way they have been winning is probably not sustainable and even addressed that in one of my points about the team being a sloppy mess, but how is that luck? Eagles are lucky the other team was bad? Makes no sense. If the Eagles play bad and lose, does that mean they were unlucky? The other team was lucky?

Right, were the Jets lucky when we turned the ball over 5 times? Or did they just capitalize on our uncharacteristic bad play and a bad team beat a good team.

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Then we have different definitions of luck. If the other good team plays worse and makes more mistakes than our team, I don't consider that luck. And I agree, the way they have been winning is probably not sustainable and even addressed that in one of my points about the team being a sloppy mess, but how is that luck? Eagles are lucky the other team was bad? Makes no sense. If the Eagles play bad and lose, does that mean they were unlucky? The other team was lucky?

See the below, he gets it but I don’t think he knows he gets it.

Right, were the Jets lucky when we turned the ball over 5 times? Or did they just capitalize on our uncharacteristic bad play and a bad team beat a good team.

When you’re getting wins, or good fortune, based on uncharacteristic play you’re benefiting from luck. The Jets were lucky to catch Hurts on such a bad day. Sometimes you’re lucky a blatant penalty wasn’t called. Hail Mary’s are pretty much luck right? A slap shot that deflects off of 3 people and scores was luck. A half court shot as time expire when you’re tossing it up. An inside the park HR that goes between a guys legs who makes the play 99.9999% of the time. Etc etc. Like I said, I’m sure you’ve seen countless displays of this over the years. Theres many forms of it and I’m certain you’ve uttered the phrase “that was lucky” or something similar a few hundred thousand times over the years lol.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

i should have used the Hurts play as well

The last part can be both as well. It was poor planning for sure (outside of Kelce’s drops) but at the same time even a poor player like MVS (or any pro) catches that ball more times than not.

I think the main issue is that people want all wins to be “pure” sometimes luck is needed. ****, in a sense we were lucky Wentz got hurt! It just is what it is.

 

[Terpman22]

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

i should have used the Hurts play as well

The last part can be both as well. It was poor planning for sure (outside of Kelce’s drops) but at the same time even a poor player like MVS (or any pro) catches that ball more times than not.

I think the main issue is that people want all wins to be “pure” sometimes luck is needed. ****, in a sense we were lucky Wentz got hurt! It just is what it is.

Yeah man I agree for the most part. It's fair to criticize the play on the field, but I mean, on a lot of teams in a lot of games, there usually is a guy open at some point. Its just the nature of the sport both having to cover a guy and on the QB to have to make the quick decision in less than 3 seconds. I personally don't have issues with them gameplanning the way they did against KC, basically "Don't let Kelce beat you, and if MVS/Justin Watson/Toney/Rice/Moore (Yikesville!) beat you, you have to live with that. Look up the stats of these guys, its not anything to really worry about and if that WAS the actual game plan, in a rainy/windy setting, hindsight 20/20 and all, it worked out.

Kinda like it wasn't working out for us when we had Reagor, JJaw, Dorial Green Beckham, etc.

And the "luck" angle, hey, its literally in every single game. Lucky to break a tackle, ref missed a hold, ball bounces a certain way and becomes or not becomes a turnover for your team, etc etc.

But I guess what people like me are really saying, like at some point, you go 9-1 in back to back seasons, the luck angle kinda fades away fast and it just becomes

"Damn, we got a great football team"

 

[jasvic]

Then we have different definitions of luck. If the other good team plays worse and makes more mistakes than our team, I don't consider that luck. And I agree, the way they have been winning is probably not sustainable and even addressed that in one of my points about the team being a sloppy mess, but how is that luck? Eagles are lucky the other team was bad? Makes no sense. If the Eagles play bad and lose, does that mean they were unlucky? The other team was lucky?

See the below, he gets it but I don’t think he knows he gets it.

Right, were the Jets lucky when we turned the ball over 5 times? Or did they just capitalize on our uncharacteristic bad play and a bad team beat a good team.

When you’re getting wins, or good fortune, based on uncharacteristic play you’re benefiting from luck. The Jets were lucky to catch Hurts on such a bad day. Sometimes you’re lucky a blatant penalty wasn’t called. Hail Mary’s are pretty much luck right? A slap shot that deflects off of 3 people and scores was luck. A half court shot as time expire when you’re tossing it up. An inside the park HR that goes between a guys legs who makes the play 99.9999% of the time. Etc etc. Like I said, I’m sure you’ve seen countless displays of this over the years. Theres many forms of it and I’m certain you’ve uttered the phrase “that was lucky” or something similar a few hundred thousand times over the years lol.

Both disagree and agree. You're talking about two different things, a player playing bad and fluky plays. The former isn't lucky, the latter is. If both are luck based then that would mean 100% of the game is luck.

I agree the Eagles can't expect to play so sloppy and continue expecting to win. But in every win they made more positive plays than their opponent. Not one had a weird bounce/deflection/etc go their way which caused a win.

I know I'm being a bit pedantic here, but when I keep hearing how "lucky" the Eagles have been, it implies they have done nothing to deserve being where they are, when that isn't the case.

 

[Snotbubbles]

ESPN Analytics are still predicting the #Eagles to lose their next three games straight

How surprising. Definitely a great system they got going on over there.

When you realize their whole model is built on hate clicks, it makes perfect sense to rile up the biggest fan base.

There are too many unquantifiable things that go into winning a football game that some analytic predictor is nothing more than something neat to look at. Take it with a grain of salt.

Vegas has the Eagles as a -170 ML favorite.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

i should have used the Hurts play as well

The last part can be both as well. It was poor planning for sure (outside of Kelce’s drops) but at the same time even a poor player like MVS (or any pro) catches that ball more times than not.

I think the main issue is that people want all wins to be “pure” sometimes luck is needed. ****, in a sense we were lucky Wentz got hurt! It just is what it is.

Yeah man I agree for the most part. It's fair to criticize the play on the field, but I mean, on a lot of teams in a lot of games, there usually is a guy open at some point. Its just the nature of the sport both having to cover a guy and on the QB to have to make the quick decision in less than 3 seconds. I personally don't have issues with them gameplanning the way they did against KC, basically "Don't let Kelce beat you, and if MVS/Justin Watson/Toney/Rice/Moore (Yikesville!) beat you, you have to live with that. Look up the stats of these guys, its not anything to really worry about and if that WAS the actual game plan, in a rainy/windy setting, hindsight 20/20 and all, it worked out.

Kinda like it wasn't working out for us when we had Reagor, JJaw, Dorial Green Beckham, etc.

And the "luck" angle, hey, its literally in every single game. Lucky to break a tackle, ref missed a hold, ball bounces a certain way and becomes or not becomes a turnover for your team, etc etc.

But I guess what people like me are really saying, like at some point, you go 9-1 in back to back seasons, the luck angle kinda fades away fast and it just becomes

"Damn, we got a great football team"

"Luck is where preparation meets opportunity." - Roman philosopher Seneca

Translation: We make our own luck.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I know I'm being a bit pedantic here, but when I keep hearing how "lucky" the Eagles have been, it implies they have done nothing to deserve being where they are, when that isn't the case.

This is the root of the problem IMO. We’ve been great, lucky and have issues in some areas. People seem to be taking the “luck” as a slight and it’s not. It can be a bunch of different things at one time without taking the shine away from what we’ve done well.

Everyone is happy we’re 9-1. I know I am and I thill think our best ball has yet to come.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

i should have used the Hurts play as well

The last part can be both as well. It was poor planning for sure (outside of Kelce’s drops) but at the same time even a poor player like MVS (or any pro) catches that ball more times than not.

I think the main issue is that people want all wins to be “pure” sometimes luck is needed. ****, in a sense we were lucky Wentz got hurt! It just is what it is.

Yeah man I agree for the most part. It's fair to criticize the play on the field, but I mean, on a lot of teams in a lot of games, there usually is a guy open at some point. Its just the nature of the sport both having to cover a guy and on the QB to have to make the quick decision in less than 3 seconds. I personally don't have issues with them gameplanning the way they did against KC, basically "Don't let Kelce beat you, and if MVS/Justin Watson/Toney/Rice/Moore (Yikesville!) beat you, you have to live with that. Look up the stats of these guys, its not anything to really worry about and if that WAS the actual game plan, in a rainy/windy setting, hindsight 20/20 and all, it worked out.

Kinda like it wasn't working out for us when we had Reagor, JJaw, Dorial Green Beckham, etc.

And the "luck" angle, hey, its literally in every single game. Lucky to break a tackle, ref missed a hold, ball bounces a certain way and becomes or not becomes a turnover for your team, etc etc.

But I guess what people like me are really saying, like at some point, you go 9-1 in back to back seasons, the luck angle kinda fades away fast and it just becomes

"Damn, we got a great football team"

"Luck is where preparation meets opportunity." - Roman philosopher Seneca

Translation: We make our own luck.

I agree with the quote, however, I think uts geared more toward life

 

[Snotbubbles]

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

i should have used the Hurts play as well

The last part can be both as well. It was poor planning for sure (outside of Kelce’s drops) but at the same time even a poor player like MVS (or any pro) catches that ball more times than not.

I think the main issue is that people want all wins to be “pure” sometimes luck is needed. ****, in a sense we were lucky Wentz got hurt! It just is what it is.

Yeah man I agree for the most part. It's fair to criticize the play on the field, but I mean, on a lot of teams in a lot of games, there usually is a guy open at some point. Its just the nature of the sport both having to cover a guy and on the QB to have to make the quick decision in less than 3 seconds. I personally don't have issues with them gameplanning the way they did against KC, basically "Don't let Kelce beat you, and if MVS/Justin Watson/Toney/Rice/Moore (Yikesville!) beat you, you have to live with that. Look up the stats of these guys, its not anything to really worry about and if that WAS the actual game plan, in a rainy/windy setting, hindsight 20/20 and all, it worked out.

Kinda like it wasn't working out for us when we had Reagor, JJaw, Dorial Green Beckham, etc.

And the "luck" angle, hey, its literally in every single game. Lucky to break a tackle, ref missed a hold, ball bounces a certain way and becomes or not becomes a turnover for your team, etc etc.

But I guess what people like me are really saying, like at some point, you go 9-1 in back to back seasons, the luck angle kinda fades away fast and it just becomes

"Damn, we got a great football team"

"Luck is where preparation meets opportunity." - Roman philosopher Seneca

Translation: We make our own luck.

I agree with the quote, however, I think uts geared more toward life

Football is life.

 

[jasvic]

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[DJackson10]

I don't understand the luck talk.

It’s really not that hard to understand or accept if you’re watching the games. I’m a huge fan but I’m not blind.

You can enjoy the wins, be happy all while acknowledging we’ve dodged some bullets. It’s ok to do both. You’re not locked into one or the other.

It’s nice we are winning games while down 10 every week. It’s nice we are winning while the OC looks like crap. It’s nice when WR’s are running free and dropping passes for huge gains. Thinking we are willing these mistakes by the other team, influencing it in any way or that it’s sustainable is downright foolish.

Then we have different definitions of luck. If the other good team plays worse and makes more mistakes than our team, I don't consider that luck. And I agree, the way they have been winning is probably not sustainable and even addressed that in one of my points about the team being a sloppy mess, but how is that luck? Eagles are lucky the other team was bad? Makes no sense. If the Eagles play bad and lose, does that mean they were unlucky? The other team was lucky?

Right, were the Jets lucky when we turned the ball over 5 times? Or did they just capitalize on our uncharacteristic bad play and a bad team beat a good team.

I mean, all I hear from non Eagles fans and haters about the Super Bowl is something like "Jalen Hurts fumbled away the Super Bowl!! Haha what a choker" so we can go on all day long about this, but yeah, also luck that Hurts had an unforced error with literally NO ONE touching him and they return the fumble for a touchdown and as well as Quez dropping a pass that almost certainly would have altered the outcome of the game as well.

But that is football. Its an odd shaped ball and there is actual real weather conditions to deal with as well as the human element of players/coaches and refs.

What is NOT luck is the decision of the Chiefs to go into the season as defending Super Bowl champs with arguably the worst or at min a bottom 3 WR corps. That is just poor planning.

The Super Bowl was a team loss effort but pieople acting like Hurts fumbling and the offense scoring only 11 in the 2nd half played a big part. Fumble TD changed momentum in the game and was at least a 10 pt swing (think we at least get a FG before the half), and miles Fumble TD was called back. Yes the defense should’ve stopped the Chiefs. The offense played way to conservative and we kicked a FG in the 2nd half and even AJ Brown said he had doubts of us winning when we kicked the FG then gave up a TD. It was a total team loss at the end.

But my issue is people acting like Hurts can do no wrong. It’s everyone else’s but his fault. Have I been hard on the guy sure. But I’m not going to sit here and act like we’re all hunky dory all week.

The posters doing the above are wrong but you guys keep falling for the hook line and sinker to rule you up. The ignore feature does wonders on this board. I’ve had the clown in the game thread on ignore you were referring to there on ignore for a good while. He’s a salty jets fan at most. His ab this year was beating us. Just put the dude on ignore.

I’ve been saying for months you guys need to ignore the trollish behavior.