2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (1 Viewer)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

Rooney has a thing for KP apparently. He is who dictated they draft him. He apparently went against Tomlin who was leaning towards benching KP in lieu of firing Canada. So, unless Mitch shows he is infinitely better than KP in executing the offense, I think we are stuck with KP and have kids gloves on (small ones) in our handling of him. Which means not drafting a QB in rounds 1-3 in this deep QB draft. So we are screwed.

 

[geneyus]

I just don't see Pickett ever being a top half QB. His vision and feel aren't there and he's not a 21 year old rookie. Our "success" prevents us from drafting a top talent at the position therefore we're stuck developing/praying they develop into a top half QB and when has that worked for us? Would love to see them make a play for Cousins in the off season.

 

[karl.Racki]

I just don't see Pickett ever being a top half QB. His vision and feel aren't there and he's not a 21 year old rookie. Our "success" prevents us from drafting a top talent at the position therefore we're stuck developing/praying they develop into a top half QB and when has that worked for us? Would love to see them make a play for Cousins in the off season.

Let's wait on this.. I am getting there, but he actually didn't look bad against Cincy.

I am willing to see how he does under a new coordinator before I kick a 1st rd pick to the curb.

They also need to address the OL this draft. Mason Cole is horrible.

 

[sm8680]

Kenny P is a China doll. Mitch T stated that he's still growing as a player. But does that mean he won't throw into triple coverage as usual for an INT. Steelers don't have a starting caliber QB on the roster. I'm hoping that a team that is coached more poorly than the Steeler's gives up on their QB. Then that QB proves himself in a different organization.

Yes Mason Hole is terrible and overpaid. Remove him and Chuks and use that money to get guys of value to the team.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Is Johnson a sneaky play? Believe Mitch threw the TD to him last game. Not sure how many targets he gave him or was it just that one since I didn't watch the game. Either way good sign to come for Johnson getting more looks / looks in the redzone?

Would stay away from all Steelers..

I wish it was that easy in my PPR league. Guess I could replace Warren with Mitchell or Roschon and Johnson is in the mix pick 2 with Lockett, London, Brown

 

[infantsam]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

I have seen nothing that indicates top 10-16 at all. Pretending it's there seems delusional to me.

Athletically he is maybe average but he processes way too slow and he's innacurate all the time even on easy throws. Doesn't read pressure, doesn't read coverage and doesn't find the open guys. He's not it. Done - move on.
It was worth a try but you watched what a prospect can do on Monday night. Our competitions 2nd string shouldn't be in the conversation as better than our starter.

 

[steelers1080]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

Rooney has a thing for KP apparently. He is who dictated they draft him. He apparently went against Tomlin who was leaning towards benching KP in lieu of firing Canada. So, unless Mitch shows he is infinitely better than KP in executing the offense, I think we are stuck with KP and have kids gloves on (small ones) in our handling of him. Which means not drafting a QB in rounds 1-3 in this deep QB draft. So we are screwed.

I do think a new OC will help Kenny, but it feels like he's got a cap due to his vision of the field and ability to be decisive. The ball should be out before the WR turns around, not thrown after they're open and the defender is closing.

If Rooney butts in and prevents them from getting another QB that would be a shame, but I don't think we're going to draft top 10 in the next 3 years purely because of our defense.

I heard rumblings about trading for Justin Fields if they take Caleb Williams. Has anyone been following Fields since college? I have only been hearing about how terrible the Bears are and how much Fields fumbles. He is definitely more athletic, but is he "fixable"?

 

[steelers1080]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

I have seen nothing that indicates top 10-16 at all. Pretending it's there seems delusional to me.

Athletically he is maybe average but he processes way too slow and he's innacurate all the time even on easy throws. Doesn't read pressure, doesn't read coverage and doesn't find the open guys. He's not it. Done - move on.
It was worth a try but you watched what a prospect can do on Monday night. Our competitions 2nd string shouldn't be in the conversation as better than our starter.

15 and 16 right now are Geno Smith and Sam Howell. I think that with Warren, Pickens, Johnson, and Freiermuth if we had a good OC and better O-line Kenny could reach that level, but that'd be his ceiling.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

Rooney has a thing for KP apparently. He is who dictated they draft him. He apparently went against Tomlin who was leaning towards benching KP in lieu of firing Canada. So, unless Mitch shows he is infinitely better than KP in executing the offense, I think we are stuck with KP and have kids gloves on (small ones) in our handling of him. Which means not drafting a QB in rounds 1-3 in this deep QB draft. So we are screwed.

I do think a new OC will help Kenny, but it feels like he's got a cap due to his vision of the field and ability to be decisive. The ball should be out before the WR turns around, not thrown after they're open and the defender is closing.

If Rooney butts in and prevents them from getting another QB that would be a shame, but I don't think we're going to draft top 10 in the next 3 years purely because of our defense.

I heard rumblings about trading for Justin Fields if they take Caleb Williams. Has anyone been following Fields since college? I have only been hearing about how terrible the Bears are and how much Fields fumbles. He is definitely more athletic, but is he "fixable"?

I think that is a very real possibility. According to my friend, there was a deal in place to move up and draft Fields had he fallen to the Chargers.

Rooney apparently inserts himself a good bit. I have said this before, but my understanding is that the Steelers had finished their whole war room/draft rankings and did not have KP with a first round rating (they did have Pickens and Leal with 1st round grades). KP was their top rated QB, but there was no intent to draft him in the first round until Haskins died and Rooney said "We need to draft a QB in the first round."

 

[sm8680]

Mason Rudolph is 28 and Mitch inT is 29. I can't help but focus on why the Steelers don't have that young (21-26 age range in at least the 3rd slot) At some point as you age in the NFL you age out of a depth slot.

Pertaining to Justin Fields. Michael Wilbon hasn't given up on Justin Fields. Justin at least show's promise. He potentially could be better off with a new team.

 

[steelers1080]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

Rooney has a thing for KP apparently. He is who dictated they draft him. He apparently went against Tomlin who was leaning towards benching KP in lieu of firing Canada. So, unless Mitch shows he is infinitely better than KP in executing the offense, I think we are stuck with KP and have kids gloves on (small ones) in our handling of him. Which means not drafting a QB in rounds 1-3 in this deep QB draft. So we are screwed.

I do think a new OC will help Kenny, but it feels like he's got a cap due to his vision of the field and ability to be decisive. The ball should be out before the WR turns around, not thrown after they're open and the defender is closing.

If Rooney butts in and prevents them from getting another QB that would be a shame, but I don't think we're going to draft top 10 in the next 3 years purely because of our defense.

I heard rumblings about trading for Justin Fields if they take Caleb Williams. Has anyone been following Fields since college? I have only been hearing about how terrible the Bears are and how much Fields fumbles. He is definitely more athletic, but is he "fixable"?

I think that is a very real possibility. According to my friend, there was a deal in place to move up and draft Fields had he fallen to the Chargers.

Rooney apparently inserts himself a good bit. I have said this before, but my understanding is that the Steelers had finished their whole war room/draft rankings and did not have KP with a first round rating (they did have Pickens and Leal with 1st round grades). KP was their top rated QB, but there was no intent to draft him in the first round until Haskins died and Rooney said "We need to draft a QB in the first round."

Glad we didn't take Leal in the 1st with how that's worked out. Feels like he's still underutilized. Overall not loving the job Austin is doing. Seeing Watts and Loudermilk on the field and Benton on the sidelines doesn't seem like the most effective use of personnel...

 

[Grid71]

Rumors that Kenny was on his way to getting benched before Canada was fired. Not sure if that means he still has a short leash, he was moving the ball much better against the Bengals, but still no scoring and missing wide open receivers/RBs/TEs. Just not seeing them at all.

We might have seen Mitch this week even if Kenny didn't get hurt last week. And there must be something behind the scenes with Mason that we just don't know about. Or, they don't think he can survive behind our O-line.

I still think Kenny could develop into a decent QB, like in the 10-16 range, but I'm a bit more convinced that the Steelers might make a move at QB this offseason.

Rooney has a thing for KP apparently. He is who dictated they draft him. He apparently went against Tomlin who was leaning towards benching KP in lieu of firing Canada. So, unless Mitch shows he is infinitely better than KP in executing the offense, I think we are stuck with KP and have kids gloves on (small ones) in our handling of him. Which means not drafting a QB in rounds 1-3 in this deep QB draft. So we are screwed.

I do think a new OC will help Kenny, but it feels like he's got a cap due to his vision of the field and ability to be decisive. The ball should be out before the WR turns around, not thrown after they're open and the defender is closing.

If Rooney butts in and prevents them from getting another QB that would be a shame, but I don't think we're going to draft top 10 in the next 3 years purely because of our defense.

I heard rumblings about trading for Justin Fields if they take Caleb Williams. Has anyone been following Fields since college? I have only been hearing about how terrible the Bears are and how much Fields fumbles. He is definitely more athletic, but is he "fixable"?

I think that is a very real possibility. According to my friend, there was a deal in place to move up and draft Fields had he fallen to the Chargers.

Rooney apparently inserts himself a good bit. I have said this before, but my understanding is that the Steelers had finished their whole war room/draft rankings and did not have KP with a first round rating (they did have Pickens and Leal with 1st round grades). KP was their top rated QB, but there was no intent to draft him in the first round until Haskins died and Rooney said "We need to draft a QB in the first round."

Glad we didn't take Leal in the 1st with how that's worked out. Feels like he's still underutilized. Overall not loving the job Austin is doing. Seeing Watts and Loudermilk on the field and Benton on the sidelines doesn't seem like the most effective use of personnel...

Curious what you see Austin doing wrong. On the play where KP got hurt, Cal was perfect wide open for a TD before Kenny gave up on the primary route and ran the ball. I recall seeing him trot out on the field in a goal to go situation thinking, this play has to be designed for Cal either primary or misdirection for a run.

Without checking stats, Austin has been sure handed and IMO under utilized as a speed threat. Kid has good hands, not just a track guy.

 

[Grid71]

Mitch Toorisky ALL22 eval
Interesting film breakdown from 2nd half week 13 focused on Mitch Trubisky's performance. Like many, they think Rudolf is a better option, but we know that's not going to happen unless Mitch goes out there and throws a bunch of bad picks.

I think Mitch is exponentially better than Kenny other than throwing into double coverage. Expectations from the community is very low. Good chance he's going to surprise.

Same YouTube channel has been doing a weekly KP eval. If you go down that rabbit hole, you'll see a whole lot of bad technique and decision making. I'd be happy if the team doesn't let Kenny start again. Demote to #3 and give him a chance to compete for a backup job next year.

• Staring down receivers
• Poor pocket presence especially panic spin out of the pocket
• avoid throwing to vacated area from corner blitzers
• Poor timing consistently late/extra hitch/shuffle step
• Frequent bad ball placement particularly on throws less than 10 yards

 

[Max55]

At one of the fantasy drafts this year I told the guys that the over/under for KP TD passes this year of 18.5 was like free money to take the over unless he got hurt. It’s barely more than 1 TD pass a game, he’s a 2nd year QB, and was great in the preseason.

Do you think I still have a chance to win this year?

 

[kupcho1]

This just in ... Steelers are the 5 seed right now.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

This just in ... Steelers are the 5 seed right now.

If Pats win tomorrow Browns move into your spot and Texans into 7th spot.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I think that is a very real possibility. According to my friend, there was a deal in place to move up and draft Fields had he fallen to the Chargers.

Tomlin absolutely had (and I assume still has) "pants feelings" for Fields. I remember the bromance photos on Instagram, etc. Plus, anyone paying attention the last decade plus knows that dude just can't seems to keep his hands off them Buckeyes <insert Jimmy Jordan joke here >.

NGL...the shine he had for JF sorta worries me a bit when those rumors get bandied about. Don't want to see them doubling down on wasting draft capital for another project. Fields is certainly an elite athlete. However, is he really any more accomplished as a QB than Pickett is? Inaccurate. Plus, he turns the ball over a LOT.

They need to do better. Particularly with the current offensive staff entrenched. Bring in a guy like Fields, you can pretty much forget about him being "better at his second stop because the new team had the talent to develop him." Pitt hasn't had a truly legit offensive mind since Arians "retired." Roeth was the real offensive coordinator for the last half of his career.

 

[3C's]

This just in ... Steelers are the 5 seed right now.

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[geneyus]

Does anyone think Sullivan can get more from Fields than the Bears have so far? Sullivan isn't exactly a QB whisperer and where can we find one of those?

 

[Grid71]

Does anyone think Sullivan can get more from Fields than the Bears have so far? Sullivan isn't exactly a QB whisperer and where can we find one of those?

For some reason, imagined you as a reporter asking this question to Tomlin while he's preparing for the Patriots tonight. Tomlin shakes head in disbelief. "How am I supposed to respond to that? You tell me what you think Sully could do with Fields geneyus. Really. I want to hear this." Tomlin leans forward with a death stare, right hand cupping his ear.

I can't answer this question. I can't even say Sullivan is the OC or QB coach next season let alone begin to think how he could handle coaching Fields. Pickett didn't make any significant strides, but is that on Sullivan, Canada, Tomlin, Rooney or Pickett? Everyone share blame? More interested in who comes in as OC next season and staff they may bring in. Helps when an OC has a good rapport with his staff. Better to save that for offseason/EOS when coaches get shuffled.

 

[Grid71]

Trubisky on a short week. I can't think of a good reason to start any of the WRs if you have any comparable options.

Agree with you. On a short week vs a good Patriots D, touchdowns will be hard to come by. Better to start someone else if you have a good option.
OLine banged up (but replacing Cole is probably an upgrade TBH)
Play calling has been iffy especially inside the 20s.

There is a small case to be made for starting Pickens or Diontae (if you don't have good options). Mitch is better than Pickett especially handling blitz and pressure. Steelers still focus on the run and can throw out of 3 TE sets. Love the move to Pickens from Diontae in those sets. Should find some play action 1-1 with Pickens or Muth. Mitch isn't afraid to attack the area of the field behind the blitz. Also no fear challenging the deep portion of the field. Should get some chunk plays.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

I am really not sure why I waste my time watching this team

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Is Johnson a sneaky play? Believe Mitch threw the TD to him last game. Not sure how many targets he gave him or was it just that one since I didn't watch the game. Either way good sign to come for Johnson getting more looks / looks in the redzone?

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Is Johnson a sneaky play? Believe Mitch threw the TD to him last game. Not sure how many targets he gave him or was it just that one since I didn't watch the game. Either way good sign to come for Johnson getting more looks / looks in the redzone?

Would stay away from all Steelers..

 

[Bracie Smathers]

... I don't know what the line is, and I never gamble but if I did, I'd bet the house on the under in this game and confidently parlay the Steelers taking the win.

Man, I'm glad I don't gamble.
Steelers 'could' pull this out but they blew past the under in the first half.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Soooooo……any Tomlin supporters left in here?

 

[crushedspirit]

Absolute embarrassment two weeks in a row at home vs 2 win teams. How many more have to go under the bus before they get rid of the real culprit?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Some truly bizarre play calling last 2 Steelers possessions of this game.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Absolute embarrassment two weeks in a row at home vs 2 win teams. How many more have to go under the bus before they get rid of the real culprit?

I mean, Kenny Pickett had Surgey, so…

Winnable game, but Mitch trubisky.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Absolute embarrassment two weeks in a row at home vs 2 win teams. How many more have to go under the bus before they get rid of the real culprit?

If you’re going to get rid of him, who do you have in mind that is better? That’s the narrative from the Tomlin apologists.

 

[HellToupee]

Last playoff win was 2016

 

[irish eyes]

So why is

Soooooo……any Tomlin supporters left in here?

If there are I would be surprised. But they will have excuses for him, just wait .

 

[irish eyes]

Absolute embarrassment two weeks in a row at home vs 2 win teams. How many more have to go under the bus before they get rid of the real culprit?

If you’re going to get rid of him, who do you have in mind that is better? That’s the narrative from the Tomlin apologists.

I always love that argument. Yes, who can you find to lose to two 2 win teams in a row at home. Lololol

 

[The Duff Man]

Straight up swap McDermott for Tomlin?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Straight up swap McDermott for Tomlin?

As down as I am on Tomlin, I’m going nowhere near McDermott after his 9/11 comments. Hard pass.

 

[Steelers4Life]

If we assume somewhere between 0 and 2 more wins this season, this will be the 5th time in 6 years that they win 9 or fewer games.

And the one time they won 12 was after starting a very flukey 11-0 and then losing 4 of their last 5 and then an embarrassing home loss to the Browns in the playoffs when they looked unprepared and flat.

The standard is the standard.

 

[Dizzy]

Is Johnson a sneaky play? Believe Mitch threw the TD to him last game. Not sure how many targets he gave him or was it just that one since I didn't watch the game. Either way good sign to come for Johnson getting more looks / looks in the redzone?

Would stay away from all Steelers..

This advice is unchanged, and as correct today as it was back in July.

 

[Dizzy]

Straight up swap McDermott for Tomlin?

Why? Because he's slightly quicker to pull to the trigger on blaming the OC? They have a legit NFL QB and stink it up.

Steelers marching practice squad QBs out there.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Straight up swap McDermott for Tomlin?

Why? Because he's slightly quicker to pull to the trigger on blaming the OC? They have a legit NFL QB and stink it up.

Steelers marching practice squad QBs out there.

I don’t want McDermott but let’s not pretend that Tomlin isn’t at fault for that disaster of a game. Yes Trubisky is awful and even worse than I could have imagined. But the QB on the other end is also awful and the Steelers made him look like Tom Brady in the 1st half. Then when the Steelers special teams and defense gifted them 15 points, what happened in the last 6 minutes was inexcusable for a coach. Down 3 and already down 1 timeout (because of course), he burns a timeout on a 4th and a half yard? Come on - that’s about as obvious a play call as there is. They desperately needed that timeout. Then on 4th and 2 with the season on the line, they call that ridiculous play? I don’t know if Tomlin made that call but as the leader of the team, he should have in that situation.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Steelers put up 18 points to a team averaging under 5 points a game the last 3 games and 3.5 the last two games, the offense did its job because 18 points 'should' have been enough.
Pats jumped out to a big lead and that was the ball game.

 

[Max55]

Best thing that can happen to this team is lose out the rest of the year imo.

Sure that helps draft positioning but they need significant coaching and philosophical changes as well. As long as they keep hovering around the playoffs that change isn’t going to happen as much is needed for long term success.

For example - the next OC has to be external and not the interim guys they have now.

 

[3C's]

Absolute embarrassment two weeks in a row at home vs 2 win teams. How many more have to go under the bus before they get rid of the real culprit?

If you’re going to get rid of him, who do you have in mind that is better? That’s the narrative from the Tomlin apologists.

I don't think Tomlin is terrible or anything but there comes a point where you become stale and when you've been in the same position for almost 2 decades you no longer are in the know regarding hiring assistants. They should make a hard push for Ben Johnson from the Lions. Get someone young and innovative on OFFENSE for once.

 

[Godsbrother]

Yeah, I am ready to move on from Tomlin. Blow the team up, tank the rest of 2023 and try to get a real quarterback

Minkah back at practice, looks like he'll be activated. Kenny actually looked like a competent QB. Offense gained over 400 yards and the Steelers take on a 2-10 Cardinals team at home. Seems like the Steelers should have an easy win and then another vs the 2-9 Patriots on a short week at home.

Why do I get the feeling they are going to blow one or both of these games?

I know it is bad form to quote yourself but I had an inkling this was going to happen.

I am finally ready to move on from Tomlin. Blow up the team, tank the rest of the season, fire Tomlin in the offseason, and try to get a legitimate QB.

 

[Dizzy]

Straight up swap McDermott for Tomlin?

Why? Because he's slightly quicker to pull to the trigger on blaming the OC? They have a legit NFL QB and stink it up.

Steelers marching practice squad QBs out there.

I don’t want McDermott but let’s not pretend that Tomlin isn’t at fault for that disaster of a game. Yes Trubisky is awful and even worse than I could have imagined. But the QB on the other end is also awful and the Steelers made him look like Tom Brady in the 1st half. Then when the Steelers special teams and defense gifted them 15 points, what happened in the last 6 minutes was inexcusable for a coach. Down 3 and already down 1 timeout (because of course), he burns a timeout on a 4th and a half yard? Come on - that’s about as obvious a play call as there is. They desperately needed that timeout. Then on 4th and 2 with the season on the line, they call that ridiculous play? I don’t know if Tomlin made that call but as the leader of the team, he should have in that situation.

It does not matter. What are you hoping for... to see a 9-8 Steelers team sneak into playoffs so Mitch or Pickett can get blasted back to Pittsburgh? The Steelers are not the Lions. A 1st round play-off appearance ribbon doesn't go into the case next to the Lombardi's.

I guess I'll say it again. In the NFL, you either have a QB that can compete or you don't... they don't. Steelers Super Bowl hopes were gone in July.

If not competing for championships, they're better of losing as many games as possible.

You can fire Tomlin, bring in <insert next genius here> and maybe that gets you to a consistent mid-pack team over Pickett's career. Hurray.

 

[3C's]

Best thing that can happen to this team is lose out the rest of the year imo.

Sure that helps draft positioning but they need significant coaching and philosophical changes as well. As long as they keep hovering around the playoffs that change isn’t going to happen as much is needed for long term success.

For example - the next OC has to be external and not the interim guys they have now.

I would "hate" that but would be happy if it happens. It's the only way significant changes will be made and helps their draft position.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Steelers put up 18 points to a team averaging under 5 points a game the last 3 games and 3.5 the last two games, the offense did its job because 18 points 'should' have been enough.
Pats jumped out to a big lead and that was the ball game.

No the offense did not do their job. They were hideous. The defense and special teams got the team back into it in the 2nd half. Otherwise we were looking at 2 straight home blowout losses against 2 win teams.

 

[ghostguy123]

Steelers put up 18 points to a team averaging under 5 points a game the last 3 games and 3.5 the last two games, the offense did its job because 18 points 'should' have been enough.
Pats jumped out to a big lead and that was the ball game.

Are you forgetting about the points that their offense handed the Patriots on a silver platter?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

That 4th and 2 was as bad as 4th and goal on sunday. Wtf??

And the lack of targets for Pickens is alarming. But the line seems to get pushed backwards a lot causing some poor decisions. Mitch made some very questionable throws that should have been picked. Start Rudy.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I'd love to see the looks on some of your faces the day Tomlin gets elected to the Hall of Fame. Yes, he will make it. The media, who votes on it, absolutely loves the guy.

Losing games to bad teams is what he has done for years, but looking at this year on a macro level, 7-6 with the horrible QB play they have had is still impressive.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I miss Big Ben.