2023 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees (1 Viewer)

[bigbottom]

This year’s nominees are:

• Kate Bush
• Sheryl Crow
• Missy Elliott
• Iron Maiden
• Joy Division/New Order
• Cyndi Lauper
• George Michael
• Willie Nelson
• Rage Against the Machine
• Soundgarden
• The Spinners
• A Tribe Called Quest
• The White Stripes
• Warren Zevon

 

[bigbottom]

Can someone explain to me why Kate Bush is on this list? I guess she had a lot of success in the UK, so that may be why.

 

[zamboni]

I know the Hall isn't big on metal, but Iron Maiden not being in there is preposterous.

 

[zamboni]

Can someone explain to me why Kate Bush is on this list?

I think the show Stranger Things has brought her back to the surface.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Zevon, Spinners, Maiden, & Willie should have been in long ago. I'm shocked that Joy Division/New Order isn't in already, too - not my thing, but they seem well-loved by the hip.

Rage, Soundgarden, Missy, Tribe, and White Stripes will probably get the nods.

Once AGAIN, no Chic. Screw you, Wenner.

 

[Godsbrother]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

 

[GroveDiesel]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

 

[the moops]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

The current state of rock n roll is pretty damn rocking

 

[GroveDiesel]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

The current state of rock n roll is pretty damn rocking

There may be some great groups out there and some great music, but the reality is that rock just isn’t that popular anymore overall. There are very few rock radio stations left. All of the charts are dominated by pop and hip hop. Rock is not even a blip on the radar at the Grammys. It has almost zero effect on culture.

The Rock & Roll HOF has made it clear that they have no interest in being the curator of an increasingly niche part of culture. They want to be a part of culture, to be part of conversation, to even spark controversy and conversation with who they nominate and don’t nominate.

I think it’s dumb, but if their goal is to be culturally relevant, then it was inevitable that they’d have to expand beyond rock.

 

[Galileo]

The whole nomination and selection process for the Rock Hall is just silly. The only objective criteria for an artist is the 25 year time stamp after releasing their first album. Other than that it is all just subjective opinion on whether they have been influential or not, whatever that means. Might as well just let everybody in...

 

[shuke]

Still no Phish

 

[TripItUp]

[*]Iron Maiden
[*]Joy Division/New Order
[*]George Michael
[*]Willie Nelson
[*]The Spinners
[*]A Tribe Called Quest

My top 6 of those nominated. Never liked to listen to Maiden but can't deny their influence.

 

[TripItUp]

I enjoy the HOF for what it is. It should be renamed to the "pop and rock music HoF", and I'm fine with that.

 

[TripItUp]

Still no Phish

They'll get in eventually.

 

[TripItUp]

The whole nomination and selection process for the Rock Hall is just silly. The only objective criteria for an artist is the 25 year time stamp after releasing their first album. Other than that it is all just subjective opinion on whether they have been influential or not, whatever that means. Might as well just let everybody in...

They kind of are letting everybody in.

 

[shuke]

I see what you did there.

 

[zamboni]

I’ve given up trying to figure out the R&R HOF’s selection process. They make Cooperstown seem apolitical in comparison.

 

[Mister CIA]

Seems like a ripe opportunity for Memphis to open their own rock and roll hall of fame, maybe give it a catchy name like The Real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Still no Phish

I think they’re one of the ones that are intentionally left off specifically to try to generate controversy and some buzz. I’m not a fan of Phish, but there’s no denying their impact. And they’re very clearly way more rock than Missy Elliot and Willie Nelson.

 

[Galileo]

Can someone explain to me why Kate Bush is on this list? I guess she had a lot of success in the UK, so that may be why.

She is now a 4 time nominee...2018, 2021, 2022, and 2023. Someone is pushing hard for her lately as she has been eligible since 2004.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I know the Hall isn't big on metal, but Iron Maiden not being in there is preposterous.

I don’t even like them but I would agree

anyway it’s a pretty terrible HOF so whatever

 

[zamboni]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

Sounds like we’re headed towards the same conversation we’ve had for years. The range of “rock and roll” spans so many sub-genres that have been conveniently categorized by record execs, producers, DJs, etc. When in reality, the influence in “rock” comes from multiple levers.

This is one thing that the RRHOF, in my view, has gotten right.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

Sounds like we’re headed towards the same conversation we’ve had for years. The range of “rock and roll” spans so many sub-genres that have been conveniently categorized by record execs, producers, DJs, etc. When in reality, the influence in “rock” comes from multiple levers.

This is one thing that the RRHOF, in my view, has gotten right.

Yeah, we've danced around this tree a few times here over the decades, haven't we?

Agree with all you've said. Those who limit R&R to "white guys with guitars" conveniently forget that there are more exceptions than there are rules in their views on the subject.

 

[Osaurus]

Sadly, I don’t see Joy Division/New Order going in on their first ballot, but we’ll see.

 

[FairWarning]

I assume the worst 4-5 will make it.

 

[Godsbrother]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

I understand that but if you let non-RnR acts in then rename the darn thing. The whole thing is absurd.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

I understand that but if you let non-RnR acts in then rename the darn thing. The whole thing is absurd.

Or…you know…just accept that it’s been the “music” hall of fame for a while now and don’t get hung up on labels. It’s in the museum’s best interest to have a broad swarth of music covered. I’ve always had a broad definition of rock. Tim docked me points for taking “Live From Folsom Prison” in the best live rock album category in one of his mega-drafts years ago. I argued then that Johnny Cash was more rock than some of the other acts chosen.

 

[Godsbrother]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

I understand that but if you let non-RnR acts in then rename the darn thing. The whole thing is absurd.

Or…you know…just accept that it’s been the “music” hall of fame for a while now and don’t get hung up on labels. It’s in the museum’s best interest to have a broad swarth of music covered. I’ve always had a broad definition of rock. Tim docked me points for taking “Live From Folsom Prison” in the best live rock album category in one of his mega-drafts years ago. I argued then that Johnny Cash was more rock than some of the other acts chosen. I guess it’s just one more thing that people get “upset” about that’s not really worth their time.

Not upset at all, just think it is idiotic. If they were worried about breadth of music they would be more willing to consider other artists on the fringe. Hell, Beethoven had as much or more influence then some of the prior inductees.

And if they were concerned with Rock and Roll there are dozens of deserving bands and artists of the 60s, 70s, and 80s that would be better nominees than the non-RnR acts they are letting in.

When I was in Nashville I went to the Country Music Hall of Fame and surprisingly did not see the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Whitney Houston or Public Enemy there.

 

[AAABatteries]

The whole thing is a sham and frankly I don't care who they let in. Missy Elliot, rock and roll

I think they’re simply realizing that with the current state of rock, they’re going to run out of acts if theu don’t expand who they let in.

I understand that but if you let non-RnR acts in then rename the darn thing. The whole thing is absurd.

Or…you know…just accept that it’s been the “music” hall of fame for a while now and don’t get hung up on labels. It’s in the museum’s best interest to have a broad swarth of music covered. I’ve always had a broad definition of rock. Tim docked me points for taking “Live From Folsom Prison” in the best live rock album category in one of his mega-drafts years ago. I argued then that Johnny Cash was more rock than some of the other acts chosen. I guess it’s just one more thing that people get “upset” about that’s not really worth their time.

Yeah, years ago I even wondered why some of these artists would want to be in the RnR HOF - other than the obvious. They aren't rock acts and have never portrayed themselves as such. But once it started then it made sense. My suggestion would be to rebrand the whole think Music HoF and then have different wings like other HoFs do it.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

If someone is using the Country Music Industry as their guideline for how things should be, then Godspeed.

 

[Godsbrother]

If someone is using the Country Music Industry as their guideline for how things should be, then Godspeed.

Nope not using it as a model of how a HoF should be. Just pointing out that it is pretty much restricted to one genre.

As I said I don't really care, I'm just commenting on why I pretty much ignore the RnR HoF except when I see the annual FBGs thread

 

[dickey moe]

Happy to see Soundgarden and ATQC on there.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Guy has literally put out over 80 albums. Someone must like him.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Still no Phish

Not sure how the nomination criteria works when their first song was over 25 years ago, but they still haven't finished playing it.

 

[AAABatteries]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Wait, why? He has one of the more distinctive voices in music history - IMO. I get not caring for his music but this seems like a weird take.

 

[bigbottom]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more. His voice has incredible character and expression. The furthest thing from monotone. Now his vocal tone does have a nasal quality to it - maybe that’s what you’re getting at.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more. His voice has incredible character and expression. The furthest thing from monotone. Now his vocal tone does have a nasal quality to it - maybe that’s what you’re getting at.

You must have listened to some songs of his that I haven't heard. His voice is unique, I'll give him that, but no range at all in the ones that I have heard (which isn't that many as I can't stand his singing).

 

[FairWarning]

The one that may be the biggest lock IMO is one that I have a big problem with - The White Stripes. I do like them, but I don’t really find them groundbreaking or unique. jack White is probably the most beloved by the media this side of Dave Grohl.

there, I said it.

 

[FairWarning]

My four would be Joy Division/New Order, Iron Maiden, Spinners, probably ATCQ

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more. His voice has incredible character and expression. The furthest thing from monotone. Now his vocal tone does have a nasal quality to it - maybe that’s what you’re getting at.

You must have listened to some songs of his that I haven't heard. His voice is unique, I'll give him that, but no range at all in the ones that I have heard (which isn't that many as I can't stand his singing).

Well, he's like 85 years old now so I wouldn't expect Whitney Houston vocal fireworks from him these days Truth is, he was never that kind of singer, but I agree with biggie that he was wonderful in his prime expressing nuance.

However, that's not why he belongs in the RNRHOF. It's everything else.

 

[bigbottom]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more. His voice has incredible character and expression. The furthest thing from monotone. Now his vocal tone does have a nasal quality to it - maybe that’s what you’re getting at.

You must have listened to some songs of his that I haven't heard. His voice is unique, I'll give him that, but no range at all in the ones that I have heard (which isn't that many as I can't stand his singing).

3.33 Octave Vocal Range

Pretty darn impressive. By comparison, Freddy Mercury has a four octave range.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Well, he's like 85 years old now

He just turned 90.

 

[Bluesbomber]

About as relevant as Grammy's. Good for inductees and winners due to income bump but irrelevant to quality of music produced and performed.

 

[Eephus]

All the nominees created music of enduring quality. I have zero issues with any of them gaining induction, enjoying some late-career recognition with their friends and families and getting a plaque in a museum that I'll probably never visit.

 

[Corporation]

The Cure had the best answer:

Are you as excited as I am?

 

[DaVinci]

If Warren Zevon gets in, I will drink all the salty margaritas in Los Angeles

 

[Osaurus]

The Cure had the best answer:

Are you as excited as I am?

Love this clip.

 

[whoknew]

Willie Nelson.

Willie intersects with rock in a number of different ways. He should have been in decades ago.

I might agree if he didn't sing in a complete monotone. He's terrible.

Wow, I couldn’t disagree more. His voice has incredible character and expression. The furthest thing from monotone. Now his vocal tone does have a nasal quality to it - maybe that’s what you’re getting at.

You must have listened to some songs of his that I haven't heard. His voice is unique, I'll give him that, but no range at all in the ones that I have heard (which isn't that many as I can't stand his singing).

3.33 Octave Vocal Range

Pretty darn impressive. By comparison, Freddy Mercury has a four octave range.

Great story Sheryl Crow told at the Johnny Cash tribute when she was going to sing a duet with Willie. She asked Kris Kristofferson for some tips. He said that Willie sings behind the beat. So don’t try to sing with him. Just sing louder. Lol