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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (2 Viewers)
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Juxtatarot
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Sullie
Footballguy
Agreed - Bullet the Blue Sky is by far my favorite song of theirs. . . actually now that I think about it I think it's the only song I like any more.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
I wore out 2 cds of this in 90s.
One was/is a major - major - inspiration to me.
Until the End of the World is prolly my fav non-hit of the album.
Love Is Blindness is just so beautiful, that it may surpass UtEotW as my fav non-hit, but....
...Jack White's version is sooooo rockin', that it accidentally lowers my surface opinion of U2's - that is wrong of me, but....
Give the album a big
joker
Footballguy
Joshua Tree may be their signature album (and I love, love, love that album), but this album is right there as well.
Two of my all-time faves are from this one - Tryin' to Throw Your Arms Around the World (including one of the best lyrics - "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle". Yes, I know it's not an original saying, but it sure sounds awesome in that song) and Ultra Violet (Light My Way), as well as one of the more underrated songs in Acrobat.
Just a great album from top to bottom.
Two of my all-time faves are from this one - Tryin' to Throw Your Arms Around the World (including one of the best lyrics - "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle". Yes, I know it's not an original saying, but it sure sounds awesome in that song) and Ultra Violet (Light My Way), as well as one of the more underrated songs in Acrobat.
Just a great album from top to bottom.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Heh - what makes you sooo knowin' about "zoo'?
Don't get me wrong - I agree - but I find yous smug demenor about havin' your own TV station a little off-puttin'!
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I will take Achtung Baby over The Joshua Tree without even thinking about it. 12 songs, all of them really good/great, and the flow and vibe makes for one heckuva journey. One and Mysterious Ways are the ones the general public know the most, and both are very good, but the true gems are in the deep cuts like Ultraviolet, Acrobat and Love Is Blindness, which is an amazing 1-2-3 punch to the end the album, and of course I have to mention my personal favorite, Until the End of the World.
This is a top 20 all-time record in my book.
This is a top 20 all-time record in my book.
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rockaction
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I was never a huge U2 album guy, so I'll just say that One and Mysterious Ways are awesome songs.
timschochet
Footballguy
Grateful Dead- Europe ‘72 (1973)
Cumberland Blues
He’s Gone
One More Saturday Night
Jack Straw
You Win Again
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Brown-Eyed Woman
Hurts Me Too
Ramble On Rose
Sugar Magnolia
Mr. Charlie
Tennessee Jed
Truckin’
Epilogue/Prelude
Morning Dew
IMO, even more than the famous Dead albums American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead, this is the quintessential Grateful Dead album, because their live performances are so key to appreciating them as a band.
This is a wonderful album to listen to: the jams on “Truckin’”, “Sugar Magnolia” and “China Cat Sunflower” are magnificent. But it’s the new material that is even better: “Brown Eyed Woman” and “Ramble On Rose” are as good as the Dead ever got.
Cumberland Blues
He’s Gone
One More Saturday Night
Jack Straw
You Win Again
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Brown-Eyed Woman
Hurts Me Too
Ramble On Rose
Sugar Magnolia
Mr. Charlie
Tennessee Jed
Truckin’
Epilogue/Prelude
Morning Dew
IMO, even more than the famous Dead albums American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead, this is the quintessential Grateful Dead album, because their live performances are so key to appreciating them as a band.
This is a wonderful album to listen to: the jams on “Truckin’”, “Sugar Magnolia” and “China Cat Sunflower” are magnificent. But it’s the new material that is even better: “Brown Eyed Woman” and “Ramble On Rose” are as good as the Dead ever got.
johnnycakes
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It’s a wonderful double-album. Wore it out when I was in college in the ‘70s. Has a great version of Jack Straw. And this version of China Cat Sunflower/I know You Rider is probably the best I’ve heard.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Apple Jack
Footballguy
I can't imagine how many novice guitar players broke strings trying to get in tune with Europe '72. Glad they finally corrected the pitch.
Odd they never bothered with studio versions of Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Brown-Eyed Women and Ramble On Rose.
Odd they never bothered with studio versions of Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Brown-Eyed Women and Ramble On Rose.
grateful zed
Footballguy
pig pen's last stand.
the turning point for the dead, the band was becoming 'jerry's band'.
the turning point for the dead, the band was becoming 'jerry's band'.
simey
Footballguy
I love the album, and China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider is my favorite part.
timschochet
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Steely Dan- Pretzel Logic (1974)
Rikki Don’t Lose That Number
Night By Night
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Barrytown
East St. Louis Toodle-Oo
Parker’s Band
Through With Buzz
Pretzel Logic
With a Gun
Charlie Freak
Monkey in Your Soul
Earlier in this thread we reviewed Aja, which might be the most polished album on the entire list. This one is not nearly as heavily produced, but many fans like it even more, perhaps for that reason. It was their breakthrough record, the one that gave them star status.
Rikki Don’t Lose That Number
Night By Night
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Barrytown
East St. Louis Toodle-Oo
Parker’s Band
Through With Buzz
Pretzel Logic
With a Gun
Charlie Freak
Monkey in Your Soul
Earlier in this thread we reviewed Aja, which might be the most polished album on the entire list. This one is not nearly as heavily produced, but many fans like it even more, perhaps for that reason. It was their breakthrough record, the one that gave them star status.
zamboni
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Love Pretzel Logic - the title track is one of the most unheralded songs in their ouevre. They often play it these days as the encore.
And can't hear "Rikki" without thinking of this scene.
And can't hear "Rikki" without thinking of this scene.
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timschochet
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The Kinks- Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt.1 (1970)
The Contenders
Strangers
Denmark Street
Get Back in Line
Lola
Top of the Pops
Moneygoround
This Time Tomorrow
A Long Way From Home
Rats
Apeman
Powerman
Got to Be Free
After much pondering I have finally decided that this is the best Kinks album. The title tracks, “Apeman”, “Get Back In Line”, “A Long Way From Home”, all brilliant.
As a longtime listener to this band I’ve always thought of it as mainly a vehicle for Ray Davies: his music, his vision. But in recent years I’ve come to appreciate that his brother Dave has played an almost equal role with his brilliant guitar riffs- Lola is a prime example of this.
The Contenders
Strangers
Denmark Street
Get Back in Line
Lola
Top of the Pops
Moneygoround
This Time Tomorrow
A Long Way From Home
Rats
Apeman
Powerman
Got to Be Free
After much pondering I have finally decided that this is the best Kinks album. The title tracks, “Apeman”, “Get Back In Line”, “A Long Way From Home”, all brilliant.
As a longtime listener to this band I’ve always thought of it as mainly a vehicle for Ray Davies: his music, his vision. But in recent years I’ve come to appreciate that his brother Dave has played an almost equal role with his brilliant guitar riffs- Lola is a prime example of this.
rockaction
Footballguy
The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society box set I just got on vinyl and CD is vehemently disagreeing in the record rack I have.
timschochet
Footballguy
It’s a great album. It’s #3 on my personal list- Arthur is #2. But I can see the argument.
rockaction
Footballguy
I was just kidding. Wasn't even gently disagreeing. Have never listened to the LP with Lola all the way through.
timschochet
Footballguy
I still contend that this band’s one weakness, as compared to their contemporaries (and there aren’t too many of these- the Kinks’ contemporaries are The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and The Who) is that they didn’t make incredible albums. I love Lola and Arthur and Village Green, but they simply can’t compare to any of the bands I just listed in terms of album quality. Song quality, yes; you could take the Kinks’ 50 best songs and put them up against these other bands and they’d at least be competitive- but the albums are uneven and have more filler than the other bands IMO.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think you encapsulated it well. Ray was a brilliant and witty songwriter, but the one downside is that he sometimes tried too hard to show it at the expense of the underlying music. But that's just a small knock - still a great band with some great albums despite the occasional filler.
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Don Quixote
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Yeah, I'd put Village Green #1 too. Lola is great, and has some good songs, but I skip by a bit too much. Village Green is just amazing from top to bottom.
Lola probably below Something Else and Arthur. Close call with Muswell Hillbillies and Face to Face.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I firmly believe this is just schtick for timmay, 120k posts at a tsunami rate , voracious reader and music junkie . Not buying it
rockaction
Footballguy
I have often wondered if tim was real given that they joke about keys at som:e:where, but I personally think tim is real and just a bit manic. He's human, all too human not to be.
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