2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (1 Viewer)

[Moe.]

Was watching the end of Louisville - what happened?

 

[General Malaise]

Oh man, Gamecocks' coach about to have an aneurysm on his sideline, wants a piece of Brett Beilama badly. Hope he has an appetite.

 

[heckmanm]

wild onside kick there

 

[belljr]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

 

[WDIK2]

The Citrus Bowl shenanigans.

 

[belljr]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Serious what was the issue

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Was watching the end of Louisville - what happened?

Beamer has been whining about Illinois subbing slowly all game. An Illinois guy got hurt and when Bielema went to check on him he made the substitution sign as the SC sideline. Beamer went nuts and Bielema just laughed at him.

 

[WDIK2]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

 

[MAC_32]

Was watching the end of Louisville - what happened?

Beamer has been whining about Illinois subbing slowly all game. An Illinois guy got hurt and when Bielema went to check on him he made the substitution sign as the SC sideline. Beamer went nuts and Bielema just laughed at him.

Then forced Beamer to use a timeout a play later because, you guessed it, Bielema substituted slowly. Camera panned over to him laughing

 

[Moe.]

Bert has always been an elite-tier troll

 

[NutterButter]

J frank looking like a stud rolling in

 

[belljr]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

 

[General Malaise]

Was watching the end of Louisville - what happened?

Beamer has been whining about Illinois subbing slowly all game. An Illinois guy got hurt and when Bielema went to check on him he made the substitution sign as the SC sideline. Beamer went nuts and Bielema just laughed at him.

He looks so much like his dad when he's angry.

 

[General Malaise]

Bert has always been an elite-tier troll

Probably should have sent him a PM instead of calling out the one troll publicly.

 

[WDIK2]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't believe so. If the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub. Pretty easy for SC to counter and just not sub. Shouldn't be an issue with the helmet comms. Now, maybe they look at calling a delay of game in obvious situations like this. I'm pretty sure when SC had to call a TO, some of the same Illinois players were running off that had just ran on. I still like it better than the fake injury slow down tactic.

 

[Ilov80s]

It’s Boise’s night to shine. Jeanty going to make a lot of Heisman voters regret their choice.

 

[Ilov80s]

Dang, If Michigan had a QB this year they would have been tough to beat. They dominated Ohio State physically on D and did the same to Bama with half their starters missing.

Michigan has the No. 1 ESPN recruit Bryce Underwood coming in to play QB in 2025 so the future is bright

And sighed the Fresno State QB who has very experienced and quite solid in case Underwood isn’t ready day one.

 

[Ilov80s]

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

:crickets:

Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?

Michugan’s 10 best players also opted out. This was a lot of young UM guys who were given a big chance to prove themselves. Obviously they did quite well.

 

[General Malaise]

It’s Boise’s night to shine. Jeanty going to make a lot of Heisman voters regret their choice.

Hope so, but you know he doesn't play both ways, right? Course, judging by the absolute beat down that BYU administered on Colirado, it doesn't look like Hunter played both ways either. If he did, he did little to help his team who got demolished.

Maybe Heisman winners should come from good college football teams?

 

[belljr]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't believe so. If the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub. Pretty easy for SC to counter and just not sub. Shouldn't be an issue with the helmet comms. Now, maybe they look at calling a delay of game in obvious situations like this. I'm pretty sure when SC had to call a TO, some of the same Illinois players were running off that had just ran on. I still like it better than the fake injury slow down tactic.

So let's say 1 offense player subs in and out. They are now at los ready to go with 20 seconds. Defense slowly subs while the ref is holding the offense up. What happens if they just take their time and let the play clock completely run out

 

[General Malaise]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't believe so. If the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub. Pretty easy for SC to counter and just not sub. Shouldn't be an issue with the helmet comms. Now, maybe they look at calling a delay of game in obvious situations like this. I'm pretty sure when SC had to call a TO, some of the same Illinois players were running off that had just ran on. I still like it better than the fake injury slow down tactic.

So let's say 1 offense player subs in and out. They are now at los ready to go with 20 seconds. Defense slowly subs while the ref is holding the offense up. What happens if they just take their time and let the play clock completely run out

Delay of game defense, no?

 

[belljr]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't believe so. If the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub. Pretty easy for SC to counter and just not sub. Shouldn't be an issue with the helmet comms. Now, maybe they look at calling a delay of game in obvious situations like this. I'm pretty sure when SC had to call a TO, some of the same Illinois players were running off that had just ran on. I still like it better than the fake injury slow down tactic.

So let's say 1 offense player subs in and out. They are now at los ready to go with 20 seconds. Defense slowly subs while the ref is holding the offense up. What happens if they just take their time and let the play clock completely run out

Delay of game defense, no?

That's what I was wondering. What if they come out with 5 seconds

 

[MAC_32]

Can't believe the committee left Illinois out of the playoff

 

[Moe.]

Bert has always been an elite-tier troll

Probably should have sent him a PM instead of calling out the one troll publicly.

Had a snarky response to this but I deleted it - moving on from a tired topic

 

[NutterButter]

This has not gone well for the critics

 

[General Malaise]

Bert has always been an elite-tier troll

Probably should have sent him a PM instead of calling out the one troll publicly.

Had a snarky response to this but I deleted it - moving on from a tired topic

Snark away, i don't care. You're the one who wanted to trade barbs. Get in the ring big boy.

 

[Moe.]

Bert has always been an elite-tier troll

Probably should have sent him a PM instead of calling out the one troll publicly.

Had a snarky response to this but I deleted it - moving on from a tired topic

Snark away, i don't care. You're the one who wanted to trade barbs. Get in the ring big boy.

Nah I’m good. I’m contributing to the problem I am complaining about, which is dumb. You taking Boise in the next one?

 

[belljr]

WE ARE

 

[Desert_Power]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't believe so. If the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub. Pretty easy for SC to counter and just not sub. Shouldn't be an issue with the helmet comms. Now, maybe they look at calling a delay of game in obvious situations like this. I'm pretty sure when SC had to call a TO, some of the same Illinois players were running off that had just ran on. I still like it better than the fake injury slow down tactic.

Both tactics successful against South Carolina this year.

 

[Capella]

WE ARE

BOISE STATE (plus 11.5)

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

LETS GO BRONCOS

 

[Summer Wheat]

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

:crickets:

Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?

Michugan’s 10 best players also opted out. This was a lot of young UM guys who were given a big chance to prove themselves. Obviously they did quite well.

Milroe should have opted out. Did himself no favors today.

 

[Ilov80s]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't believe so. If the offense subs, the defense is allowed to sub. Pretty easy for SC to counter and just not sub. Shouldn't be an issue with the helmet comms. Now, maybe they look at calling a delay of game in obvious situations like this. I'm pretty sure when SC had to call a TO, some of the same Illinois players were running off that had just ran on. I still like it better than the fake injury slow down tactic.

So let's say 1 offense player subs in and out. They are now at los ready to go with 20 seconds. Defense slowly subs while the ref is holding the offense up. What happens if they just take their time and let the play clock completely run out

He played both ways against BYU. Great player, very unique in how he was used and able to perform but Colorado wasn’t very good. Jeanty carried Boise to the 2nd round of the college playoffs. They aren’t the same.

 

[Ilov80s]

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

:crickets:

Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?

Michugan’s 10 best players also opted out. This was a lot of young UM guys who were given a big chance to prove themselves. Obviously they did quite well.

Milroe should have opted out. Did himself no favors today.

Agree, Michigan D has his number. He can’t deal with exotic coverage schemes and disguised blitz packages.

 

[Moe.]

Jeanty +145 on DK to score 2 TDs - here we go

 

[General Malaise]

Bert has always been an elite-tier troll

Probably should have sent him a PM instead of calling out the one troll publicly.

Had a snarky response to this but I deleted it - moving on from a tired topic

Snark away, i don't care. You're the one who wanted to trade barbs. Get in the ring big boy.

Nah I’m good. I’m contributing to the problem I am complaining about, which is dumb. You taking Boise in the next one?

I did take BSU for small because I like the progrum, think Jeanty got screwed out of the Heisman and want at least one good college playoff game to date.

But, I think Penn State crushes them. Too big, too athletic and too much for a smaller school that can't generate a pass rush. Drew Alar can make himself a LOT of money of he plays well from tonight forward.

 

[Moe.]

How many times do you think I’ll get the pleasure of hearing someone talk about the 2007 Fiesta Bowl tonight? I’ll take a shot each time, two down just from the pregame

 

[kupcho1]

Bronco carrying the flag onto the field faceplants ... sign of things to come?

 

[Moe.]

Yeah inauspicious start for Boise, regret settling in already

 

[NutterButter]

Bronco carrying the flag onto the field faceplants ... sign of things to come?

Lol. Not good

 

[kupcho1]

How many times do you think I’ll get the pleasure of hearing someone talk about the 2007 Fiesta Bowl tonight? I’ll take a shot each time, two down just from the pregame

Thoughts and prayers
(Also, have a medical professional on standby)

 

[GregR]

Can someone explain the substitution taunt lol

Illinois defense has been slow subbing in defensive players (like one at a time) after SC subs an offensive player. Beamer has been losing his **** about it all game. Illinois player is down with an injury on the opposite sideline so Bert walks over giving the signal the refs use while they are holding the play up for substitutions.

Isn't there actually a rule about slow subbing if the offense is ready? Idk

I don't know if college differs. In the NFL the amount of time to give the defense to substitute is up to the official. If the defensive players leaving the field are deemed to be lingering to slow things down, they can be called for a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

 

[whoknew]

Was that blocked? Or just horrible?

 

[Moe.]

Just horrible. Easy to second guess but that seemed like an obvious go for it situation

 

[NutterButter]

Was that blocked? Or just horrible?

Could be the worst attempt ever if it wasnt

 

[swabs]

C'mon Kicker, Mark Madsen didn't come out of retirement for this!

 

[Ilov80s]

Being a Lions fan now it’s so hard watching these scared coaches not go for it on 4th down.

 

[NutterButter]

C'mon Kicker, Mark Madsen didn't come out of retirement for this!

Mad dog madsen?

 

[swabs]

This could get ugly quick if they're giving up 10 yards a pop on the ground.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Boise state qb slower than most bowlers.