2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (3 Viewers)

[whoknew]

This is such a dumb game. It's the Ohio State game all over again.

In case anyone forgot - Michigan beat Ohio State for the fourth straight year this year. 13-10.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Is there a particular reason the freshman isn't getting a go for Michigan?

Let Orgi manage the game. It's run, run, run and punt and play defense at this point.

 

[belljr]

That's a horrible call

Must be SEC refs.....Honk

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Awful call on the roughing the passer. Good lord refs have to be better than this.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

 

[bigbottom]

Everytime I come in this thread lately this pops in my head.

Still.

I guess I should just stop participating in the thread.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

This game is good for all the wrong reasons. Refs even getting in on it

 

[SFBayDuck]

SECSPN apparently doesn’t know where the #1 team in the nation is from.

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[belljr]

Not long ago that Michigan player chasing would have been absolutely obliterated

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Hail!

 

[whoknew]

Pretty good finish to the season for Michigan. Beat Ohio State and Alabama with no offense.

 

[belljr]

Let's go Bears

 

[General Malaise]

Forgot this game was on. Wasn't Michigan a 14 point underdog?

 

[Sparky Polastri]

That was pretty amazing to watch

 

[General Malaise]

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

 

[Moe.]

SECSPN apparently doesn’t know where the #1 team in the nation is from.

x.com

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A talking head misspoke - let’s get outraged!

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Louisville/Washington has been entertaining so far.

 

[Moe.]

I went big on Louisville for some reason, been really entertaining so far

 

[Sparky Polastri]

SECSPN apparently doesn’t know where the #1 team in the nation is from.

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A talking head misspoke - let’s get outraged!

OSU has to be pissed that espn is providing that sort of bulletin board material.

 

[MAC_32]

Pretty good finish to the season for Michigan. Beat Ohio State and Alabama with no offense.

Clearly Michigan was snubbed from the playoff

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Second time Alabama has lost in last 3 games where the opponent didn't even need 100 yards passing to win the game. But yeah, the SEC deserves 9 teams in the playoffs.

 

[General Malaise]

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

:crickets:

Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?

 

[Summer Wheat]

Dang, If Michigan had a QB this year they would have been tough to beat. They dominated Ohio State physically on D and did the same to Bama with half their starters missing.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Forgot this game was on. Wasn't Michigan a 14 point underdog?

Alabama ended up as a 17 point favorite. Kind of hard to cover that when you can only score 13.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Is South Carloina at full strength

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

:crickets:

Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?

Milroe got the crap beat out of him. He had more green (paint? grass stains?) on his back than white.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.

Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.

The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.

What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.

Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.

People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.

Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.

And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.

Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff

South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.

How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.

Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.

There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.

Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers

Good showing by Bama today......

:crickets:

Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?

3 turnovers in 4 plays in the first quarter. Looked as bad as they did against Oklahoma. Michigan had several guys that opted out (Mullings, Loveland and more) and the QB got hurt in the 3rd quarter.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol at hypothetical Bama

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Pretty good finish to the season for Michigan. Beat Ohio State and Alabama with no offense.

Clearly Michigan was snubbed from the playoff

They unfortunately lost to Indiana who everyone knows wasn't good enough for the playoffs.

 

[Stoneworker]

Dang, If Michigan had a QB this year they would have been tough to beat. They dominated Ohio State physically on D and did the same to Bama with half their starters missing.

Michigan has the No. 1 ESPN recruit Bryce Underwood coming in to play QB in 2025 so the future is bright

 

[Jayded]

Yikes Bama. Completely missed it, but they lost to the shell of Michigan? Ack.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

@Ramblin Wreck

I get that you've chosen your hill but do you think the 12 most deserving teams got in?

My workplace is probably 80% alabama fans and it's probably about the same around town but I don't know 1 person that has ever said Alabama should be in. Ive heard more south Carolina arguments than anything. The crazy bama fans will most definitely say "we don't care unless it's the NC" but the normal fans also know it was a down year/new coach.

BTW - I think miami had more of an argument over any of the SEC teams but also think Indiana did their job to get in. the 1 team i might leave out is SMU. Maybe.

Vandy may have been tough than everyone thought though.

 

[General Malaise]

@Ramblin Wreck

I get that you've chosen your hill but do you think the 12 most deserving teams got in?

My workplace is probably 80% alabama fans and it's probably about the same around town but I don't know 1 person that has ever said Alabama should be in. Ive heard more south Carolina arguments than anything. The crazy bama fans will most definitely say "we don't care unless it's the NC" but the normal fans also know it was a down year/new coach.

BTW - I think miami had more of an argument over any of the SEC teams but also think Indiana did their job to get in. the 1 team i might leave out is SMU. Maybe.

Vandy may have been tough than everyone thought though.

I mean....there was a guy in here who was pretty adamant Alabama deserved to be in over other teams and then ran his mouth every time one of those other teams got beat in the opening round of the playoffs. He's been awfully quiet since and I doubt we see him again in here. In 20+ years of posting in the college football threads, this was his first 'body of work' and it.....well, it didn't age well.

 

[Yo Mama]

Michigan beat Alabama in a bowl game on the first day of 2024.

Michigan also beat Alabama in a bowl game on the last day of 2024.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

@Ramblin Wreck

I get that you've chosen your hill but do you think the 12 most deserving teams got in?

My workplace is probably 80% alabama fans and it's probably about the same around town but I don't know 1 person that has ever said Alabama should be in. Ive heard more south Carolina arguments than anything. The crazy bama fans will most definitely say "we don't care unless it's the NC" but the normal fans also know it was a down year/new coach.

BTW - I think miami had more of an argument over any of the SEC teams but also think Indiana did their job to get in. the 1 team i might leave out is SMU. Maybe.

Vandy may have been tough than everyone thought though.

I don't have an issue with the 12 teams that got in. I'm fine with the way it is because I don't think SMU should be penalized for losing at walk-off 56 yard FG in a conference championship game while everyone contending for their spot sat home and couldn't make their conference championship game. Okay with anyone that disagrees and not interested in arguing that.

I think South Carolina was playing the best football in November out of the "bubble teams" but we have to factor in the early season games too, right?

I don't think Alabama ever looked the part of a deserving team. Watch today's game or the Oklahoma game. They looked more deserving of a Gasparilla Bowl invite than the playoffs. Vandy is certainly better than most Vandy teams but they're still just another 7-6 P4 team lost to Georgia State. Georgia Tech in the bowl game with several opt outs was their best win other than Alabama.

I don't think Miami belonged after losing to Georgia Tech and Syracuse because they also had some extremely generous help getting to 10 wins with the review system.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Re: conference fans...

I could be wrong but it's not "fan" in the sense it's being tossed around. It's more of a "i dont want any other conference to win" idea. Im different thosugh as our rival (at least the one I grew up with) is not in our conference. If FSU were un the SEC, no way in hell I would root for them.

I'm in SEC country and am definitely a minority in terms of the fans around me but I want the teams my friends root for to do well. This year has been interesting when we go to gatherings with a bunch of alabama/auburn fans. Kinda drags the mood down....

Plus, I have 2 extremes... i either want FSU to lose every game or be undefeated when Florida plays them so we have a chance to ruin it for them.

 

[Moe.]

@Ramblin Wreck

I get that you've chosen your hill but do you think the 12 most deserving teams got in?

My workplace is probably 80% alabama fans and it's probably about the same around town but I don't know 1 person that has ever said Alabama should be in. Ive heard more south Carolina arguments than anything. The crazy bama fans will most definitely say "we don't care unless it's the NC" but the normal fans also know it was a down year/new coach.

BTW - I think miami had more of an argument over any of the SEC teams but also think Indiana did their job to get in. the 1 team i might leave out is SMU. Maybe.

Vandy may have been tough than everyone thought though.

I mean....there was a guy in here who was pretty adamant Alabama deserved to be in over other teams and then ran his mouth every time one of those other teams got beat in the opening round of the playoffs. He's been awfully quiet since and I doubt we see him again in here. In 20+ years of posting in the college football threads, this was his first 'body of work' and it.....well, it didn't age well.

Right - one guy. Yet we’ve had to read 100 posts about it. Maybe just pm him instead?

 

[Nick Vermeil]

LFG Boise State. They have to promise not to panic if they get down early. They can grind this out in the second half. I know it.

 

[belljr]

Illinois blew the onside

 

[General Malaise]

@Ramblin Wreck

I get that you've chosen your hill but do you think the 12 most deserving teams got in?

My workplace is probably 80% alabama fans and it's probably about the same around town but I don't know 1 person that has ever said Alabama should be in. Ive heard more south Carolina arguments than anything. The crazy bama fans will most definitely say "we don't care unless it's the NC" but the normal fans also know it was a down year/new coach.

BTW - I think miami had more of an argument over any of the SEC teams but also think Indiana did their job to get in. the 1 team i might leave out is SMU. Maybe.

Vandy may have been tough than everyone thought though.

I mean....there was a guy in here who was pretty adamant Alabama deserved to be in over other teams and then ran his mouth every time one of those other teams got beat in the opening round of the playoffs. He's been awfully quiet since and I doubt we see him again in here. In 20+ years of posting in the college football threads, this was his first 'body of work' and it.....well, it didn't age well.

Right - one guy. Yet we’ve had to read 100 posts about it. Maybe just pm him instead?

You could have sent this to me in a PM too to convey your message but you didn't, probably for the same reason I didn't.

 

[Moe.]

I would say that is less than ideal defense from Louisville given the circumstances

 

[Moe.]

The line on this was anywhere from Louisville -1 to Washington -1.5, gonna be a great finish

 

[Moe.]

lol that is a hilarious tackle from 90 on 3rd down, what a chop

 

[Jayded]

Boise and PSU predictions?

I admittedly took Boise in my upset pool with friends for the bowl season. Of the four remaining playoff games, I think they have the best shot of all underdogs to take it. What gives me most hope for Boise is how they played against Oregon earlier this year. They were not intimidated by the moment and Jeanty still shone in spite of Oregon knowing he'd get the ball.

Penn State will run, run, run. Allar is much maligned, but with their two headed monster, that's their path to victory. I suspect an uneven split today in the game plan from PSU and probably something like a 2:1 run/pass ratio. Boise has to remain balanced to keep the safeties back. Madsen and the WRs will have to earn at least some respect so Jeanty has room. Boise must get out to a fast start like they did at Oregon to keep the belief up while PSU will continue to run.

I picked Boise in my pick'em, but I do think PSU likely wins. I think it'll be crazy close and might come down to the final seconds. I'd say 27-24 PSU, but if Jeanty and team can be balanced, you can just as easily see the two names on opposite side of that final prediction.

 

[whoknew]

Tough call on Louisville. Didn't look like interference.

 

[Moe.]

Tough call on Louisville. Didn't look like interference.

Jump ball in the end zone you gotta let that go. I get that he had his arm hooked a little there but the receiver had a chance to make a play on the ball just fine and there is hand-fighting on both sides

 

[Moe.]

Touchback?

 

[General Malaise]

Illinois takes a 14-10 lead on South Carilina and now Brett Bielama is threatening the entire Gamecocks' team after one of his players got hurt.

 

[MAC_32]

Bielema's got Beamer's head in a blender

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Bielema's got Beamer's head in a blender

Handshake should be great after the game.

 

[whoknew]

Post-game handshake at the Citrus Bowl will be fun.