2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (2 Viewers)

[SoBeDad]

Cam Ward played a half without Restrepo and 2 more of his top receivers. 3TDs. Good for the rookie receivers. Now the backup QB is in, no need to risk injury.

>>Future Raider/Giant Cam Ward has now thrown more TDs than anyone in FBS history, topping Keenum record. 14-14 in Orlando.<<

Add 2 more TDs for good measure.

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[Ramblin Wreck]

Cam Ward opted out of the bowl game at halftime? That's a new one. Guess he wanted that TD record.

 

[SoBeDad]

Cam Ward opted out of the bowl game at halftime? That's a new one. Guess he wanted that TD record.

Yep. Plus it gives the likely backup QB in 2025 some playing time. He played several series in the first half after breaking the record. I wonder how much Sanders and Hunter play.

 

[In The Zone]

Snoop Dogg Bowl is kinda surreal. I assume gin & juice wool be dumped on the winning coach?

Or Sour Diesel for everybody.

 

[bigbottom]

Losing a scrimmage with a bunch of second and third stringers to Navy, mostly at full strength, is fine.

Lmao. College football mindset is incredible.

They engendered it. We literally lost 25 first and second string players who didn't play today. It's not the team that played all year with all the portal losses. It's not the team that will play next year with all the portal additions.

What else is it? It was 30 minutes from my house and a cheap ticket and we still didn't go LMAO indeed. The non CFP bowls are a garbage product.

I agree that OU losing to Navy is not indicative of where they are as a program or how they will perform next season (Mateer is the real deal). But while that game may have been a garbage product (I didn’t watch it and will take your word for it), I wouldn’t apply that take across the board to all the other non-CFP bowl games. There have been a number that I’ve watched that have been quite entertaining with players, coaches and fans heavily invested in the outcome, even with the opt outs. Heck, the second half of last night’s Las Vegas bowl (while half the country was asleep) was one of the more fun games I’ve watched this season and it certainly mattered to the players on the field and the fans in the stands.

 

[Instinctive]

The Okie homer is funny. Navy game doesn't count as a loss, basically.

Are we also not going to count trick plays or maybe just eliminate results in Arizona altogether? Whatever works.

Is this a Boise St reference? Kind of unrelated isn't it? That was back when the players played the schools cared the fans cared and the bowls were awesome. Also before I went to the school so maybe my details are fuzzy...but the bowls started to die in the 2010s and they were effectively killed for any P4 program with the CFP, and then buried with the CFP expansion.

 

[Instinctive]

Losing a scrimmage with a bunch of second and third stringers to Navy, mostly at full strength, is fine.

Lmao. College football mindset is incredible.

They engendered it. We literally lost 25 first and second string players who didn't play today. It's not the team that played all year with all the portal losses. It's not the team that will play next year with all the portal additions.

What else is it? It was 30 minutes from my house and a cheap ticket and we still didn't go LMAO indeed. The non CFP bowls are a garbage product.

I agree that OU losing to Navy is not indicative of where they are as a program or how they will perform next season (Mateer is the real deal). But while that game may have been a garbage product (I didn’t watch it and will take your word for it), I wouldn’t apply that take across the board to all the other non-CFP bowl games. There have been a number that I’ve watched that have been quite entertaining with players, coaches and fans heavily invested in the outcome, even with the opt outs. Heck, the second half of last night’s Las Vegas bowl (while half the country was asleep) was one of the more fun games I’ve watched this season and it certainly mattered to the players on the field and the fans in the stands.

That's fair. I'm not such a big college football fan to figure out which ones have full complements of excited teams or not, but that's totally believable.

My perspective I've here is fully as an OU alum who started watching college football seriously in 2010 when I started at the school. Before that, I loosely rooted for Illinois, as my parents went there, but was far more aware and closely followed the NFL, college basketball, MLB, and the NBA.

So I spent four years at school as a rabid college football fan, and since have been a strong OU fan. I watch the things that impact our ability to win a title, which was every OU game, a bunch of games of upcoming opponents, and other top teams...until in some seasons we lost and went out of contention. Then I mostly just watched socially.

So come bowl season, I guess the sign to me that they've killed the product is zero friends and neighbors excited to watch or discuss any of the non CFP games. So for anyone who, like me, enjoyed the game, watched socially when it wasn't their team, etc...that viewership is gone.

Maybe that's fine. Idk.

 

[Jayded]

Ward and Gabriel aiming for TD records needs an asterisk. Any of the records should be 4 year scales and not be counting these multiple rounds of playoffs too.

Looked up Keenum as a reminder and he did most of his damage in 4 seasons after being hurt in the third game of one year and getting a medical 5th year. Covid years in here are messing with stats.

 

[bigbottom]

Losing a scrimmage with a bunch of second and third stringers to Navy, mostly at full strength, is fine.

Lmao. College football mindset is incredible.

They engendered it. We literally lost 25 first and second string players who didn't play today. It's not the team that played all year with all the portal losses. It's not the team that will play next year with all the portal additions.

What else is it? It was 30 minutes from my house and a cheap ticket and we still didn't go LMAO indeed. The non CFP bowls are a garbage product.

I agree that OU losing to Navy is not indicative of where they are as a program or how they will perform next season (Mateer is the real deal). But while that game may have been a garbage product (I didn’t watch it and will take your word for it), I wouldn’t apply that take across the board to all the other non-CFP bowl games. There have been a number that I’ve watched that have been quite entertaining with players, coaches and fans heavily invested in the outcome, even with the opt outs. Heck, the second half of last night’s Las Vegas bowl (while half the country was asleep) was one of the more fun games I’ve watched this season and it certainly mattered to the players on the field and the fans in the stands.

That's fair. I'm not such a big college football fan to figure out which ones have full complements of excited teams or not, but that's totally believable.

My perspective I've here is fully as an OU alum who started watching college football seriously in 2010 when I started at the school. Before that, I loosely rooted for Illinois, as my parents went there, but was far more aware and closely followed the NFL, college basketball, MLB, and the NBA.

So I spent four years at school as a rabid college football fan, and since have been a strong OU fan. I watch the things that impact our ability to win a title, which was every OU game, a bunch of games of upcoming opponents, and other top teams...until in some seasons we lost and went out of contention. Then I mostly just watched socially.

So come bowl season, I guess the sign to me that they've killed the product is zero friends and neighbors excited to watch or discuss any of the non CFP games. So for anyone who, like me, enjoyed the game, watched socially when it wasn't their team, etc...that viewership is gone.

Maybe that's fine. Idk.

Losing interest after the team is out of contention sounds like a fair weather fan of the team rather than a strong fan, if I’m being completely honest. Living where I live, I am literally surrounded by A&M football fans and I guarantee you that they all stayed up to watch last night’s bowl game and were glued to the sets, totally invested. I also know some who flew to Las Vegas to catch the game in person. As a USC fan, I was happy to make some money off them (I didn’t even take the points) in addition to seeing USC finally able to close out a close game in the 4th quarter. 2-0 versus the SEC is a nice consolation for a frustrating season.

 

[Instinctive]

Losing a scrimmage with a bunch of second and third stringers to Navy, mostly at full strength, is fine.

Lmao. College football mindset is incredible.

They engendered it. We literally lost 25 first and second string players who didn't play today. It's not the team that played all year with all the portal losses. It's not the team that will play next year with all the portal additions.

What else is it? It was 30 minutes from my house and a cheap ticket and we still didn't go LMAO indeed. The non CFP bowls are a garbage product.

I agree that OU losing to Navy is not indicative of where they are as a program or how they will perform next season (Mateer is the real deal). But while that game may have been a garbage product (I didn’t watch it and will take your word for it), I wouldn’t apply that take across the board to all the other non-CFP bowl games. There have been a number that I’ve watched that have been quite entertaining with players, coaches and fans heavily invested in the outcome, even with the opt outs. Heck, the second half of last night’s Las Vegas bowl (while half the country was asleep) was one of the more fun games I’ve watched this season and it certainly mattered to the players on the field and the fans in the stands.

That's fair. I'm not such a big college football fan to figure out which ones have full complements of excited teams or not, but that's totally believable.

My perspective I've here is fully as an OU alum who started watching college football seriously in 2010 when I started at the school. Before that, I loosely rooted for Illinois, as my parents went there, but was far more aware and closely followed the NFL, college basketball, MLB, and the NBA.

So I spent four years at school as a rabid college football fan, and since have been a strong OU fan. I watch the things that impact our ability to win a title, which was every OU game, a bunch of games of upcoming opponents, and other top teams...until in some seasons we lost and went out of contention. Then I mostly just watched socially.

So come bowl season, I guess the sign to me that they've killed the product is zero friends and neighbors excited to watch or discuss any of the non CFP games. So for anyone who, like me, enjoyed the game, watched socially when it wasn't their team, etc...that viewership is gone.

Maybe that's fine. Idk.

Losing interest after the team is out of contention sounds like a fair weather fan of the team rather than a strong fan, if I’m being completely honest. Living where I live, I am literally surrounded by A&M football fans and I guarantee you that they all stayed up to watch last night’s bowl game and were glued to the sets, totally invested. I also know some who flew to Las Vegas to catch the game in person. As a USC fan, I was happy to make some money off them (I didn’t even take the points) in addition to seeing USC finally able to close out a close game in the 4th quarter. 2-0 versus the SEC is a nice consolation for a frustrating season.

Ok

 

[belljr]

Is it wrong I want to see pop tart whoopie

 

[bigbottom]

Is it wrong I want to see pop tart whoopie

Better than Pop Tart murder I guess.

 

[belljr]

Is it wrong I want to see pop tart whoopie

Better than Pop Tart murder I guess.

I called my 19 yr old daughter into the room as he was walking up the ladder and I think she's now traumatized:

 

[Harry Frogfish]

The Okie homer is funny. Navy game doesn't count as a loss, basically.

Are we also not going to count trick plays or maybe just eliminate results in Arizona altogether? Whatever works.

Is this a Boise St reference? Kind of unrelated isn't it? That was back when the players played the schools cared the fans cared and the bowls were awesome. Also before I went to the school so maybe my details are fuzzy...but the bowls started to die in the 2010s and they were effectively killed for any P4 program with the CFP, and then buried with the CFP expansion.

Of course it's a Boise State reference, you know that.

Not unrelated. Finding excuses about a Bowl loss is related, imho.

Had OU won the Fiesta Bowl, I reckon your memory might be a little better.

 

[Instinctive]

The Okie homer is funny. Navy game doesn't count as a loss, basically.

Are we also not going to count trick plays or maybe just eliminate results in Arizona altogether? Whatever works.

Is this a Boise St reference? Kind of unrelated isn't it? That was back when the players played the schools cared the fans cared and the bowls were awesome. Also before I went to the school so maybe my details are fuzzy...but the bowls started to die in the 2010s and they were effectively killed for any P4 program with the CFP, and then buried with the CFP expansion.

Of course it's a Boise State reference, you know that.

Not unrelated. Finding excuses about a Bowl loss is related, imho.

Had OU won the Fiesta Bowl, I reckon your memory might be a little better.

Lol. Ok. Think what you want, but I very clearly stated I didn't watch the school before I went there. If you really wanted to be the cool internet tough guy and cut me deep you'd be bringing up Rashard Mendenhall's desperate efforts in vain in the 2008 Rose Bowl! LOL.

It's obviously unrelated. As much as you want it to be. We're in a different era. Nobody who likes a real school cares about the glorified scrimmages of today, especially compared to the towering affairs of yesteryear.

 

[belljr]

Mormons vs Misdemeanors ?

 

[Harry Frogfish]

The Okie homer is funny. Navy game doesn't count as a loss, basically.

Are we also not going to count trick plays or maybe just eliminate results in Arizona altogether? Whatever works.

Is this a Boise St reference? Kind of unrelated isn't it? That was back when the players played the schools cared the fans cared and the bowls were awesome. Also before I went to the school so maybe my details are fuzzy...but the bowls started to die in the 2010s and they were effectively killed for any P4 program with the CFP, and then buried with the CFP expansion.

Of course it's a Boise State reference, you know that.

Not unrelated. Finding excuses about a Bowl loss is related, imho.

Had OU won the Fiesta Bowl, I reckon your memory might be a little better.

Lol. Ok. Think what you want, but I very clearly stated I didn't watch the school before I went there. If you really wanted to be the cool internet tough guy and cut me deep you'd be bringing up Rashard Mendenhall's desperate efforts in vain in the 2008 Rose Bowl! LOL.

It's obviously unrelated. As much as you want it to be. We're in a different era. Nobody who likes a real school cares about the glorified scrimmages of today, especially compared to the towering affairs of yesteryear.

Um, internet tough guy, really? That's what you interpret?

I just see this pervasive OU attitude, like you seem to think you're above other schools and whatnot. Silly stuff.

Like, I didn't realize the Naval Academy wasn't a real school, sorry, feel bad you had to take the same field as them.

 

[Moe.]

Mormons vs Misdemeanors ?

BYU is getting after it, you can tell they really want this one. Hopefully Colorado can score here and make it a game.

 

[Instinctive]

The Okie homer is funny. Navy game doesn't count as a loss, basically.

Are we also not going to count trick plays or maybe just eliminate results in Arizona altogether? Whatever works.

Is this a Boise St reference? Kind of unrelated isn't it? That was back when the players played the schools cared the fans cared and the bowls were awesome. Also before I went to the school so maybe my details are fuzzy...but the bowls started to die in the 2010s and they were effectively killed for any P4 program with the CFP, and then buried with the CFP expansion.

Of course it's a Boise State reference, you know that.

Not unrelated. Finding excuses about a Bowl loss is related, imho.

Had OU won the Fiesta Bowl, I reckon your memory might be a little better.

Lol. Ok. Think what you want, but I very clearly stated I didn't watch the school before I went there. If you really wanted to be the cool internet tough guy and cut me deep you'd be bringing up Rashard Mendenhall's desperate efforts in vain in the 2008 Rose Bowl! LOL.

It's obviously unrelated. As much as you want it to be. We're in a different era. Nobody who likes a real school cares about the glorified scrimmages of today, especially compared to the towering affairs of yesteryear.

Um, internet tough guy, really? That's what you interpret?

I just see this pervasive OU attitude, like you seem to think you're above other schools and whatnot. Silly stuff.

Like, I didn't realize the Naval Academy wasn't a real school, sorry, feel bad you had to take the same field as them.

Nobody said that? Just recognizing the game as not meaningful for whether OU will be good next year.

Yeah. That's what I got. We can just agree we're talking about different things I guess. Have a happy new year!

 

[General Malaise]

Army -15 tonight, right?

 

[GregR]

Trying to think the last time I saw a QB with as ugly of a throwing motion as Retzlaff from BYU.

Tebow maybe?

 

[Osaurus]

Coach Prime is gonna make some adjustments. BYU is doing an amazing job on defense.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Arkansas trash OL should get a long suspension next season

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[SFBayDuck]

Arkansas trash OL should get a long suspension next season

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It obviously just means more.

 

[Jayded]

Army -15 tonight, right?

Probably. Anger from Navy loss + there is no such thing for the academies to quit on a bowl game. They always show up; it’s a question of whether they’re overmatched in their game or not. But they won’t sleepwalk.

 

[3C's]

Army -15 tonight, right?

And some. Thought it was odd for a ranked team to be playing a 5-7 mid?-major.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Late to the fun party but, I liked, and looked forward to UFs Bowl game this year....

 

[Harry Frogfish]

The Okie homer is funny. Navy game doesn't count as a loss, basically.

Are we also not going to count trick plays or maybe just eliminate results in Arizona altogether? Whatever works.

Is this a Boise St reference? Kind of unrelated isn't it? That was back when the players played the schools cared the fans cared and the bowls were awesome. Also before I went to the school so maybe my details are fuzzy...but the bowls started to die in the 2010s and they were effectively killed for any P4 program with the CFP, and then buried with the CFP expansion.

Of course it's a Boise State reference, you know that.

Not unrelated. Finding excuses about a Bowl loss is related, imho.

Had OU won the Fiesta Bowl, I reckon your memory might be a little better.

Lol. Ok. Think what you want, but I very clearly stated I didn't watch the school before I went there. If you really wanted to be the cool internet tough guy and cut me deep you'd be bringing up Rashard Mendenhall's desperate efforts in vain in the 2008 Rose Bowl! LOL.

It's obviously unrelated. As much as you want it to be. We're in a different era. Nobody who likes a real school cares about the glorified scrimmages of today, especially compared to the towering affairs of yesteryear.

Um, internet tough guy, really? That's what you interpret?

I just see this pervasive OU attitude, like you seem to think you're above other schools and whatnot. Silly stuff.

Like, I didn't realize the Naval Academy wasn't a real school, sorry, feel bad you had to take the same field as them.

Nobody said that? Just recognizing the game as not meaningful for whether OU will be good next year.

Yeah. That's what I got. We can just agree we're talking about different things I guess. Have a happy new year!

Okay, whatever you say. The Oklahoma slant is funny is all. At all costs, my boomer sooner friend.

Happy New Year!

 

[General Malaise]

Army -15 tonight, right?

And some. Thought it was odd for a ranked team to be playing a 5-7 mid?-major.

La Tech was a fill-in team for Marshall, who had to drop out of the game after 20 players entered the portal. The Independence Bowl (in Shreveport) reached out to a few of the "next eligible" teams and La Tech was the closest one nearby who agreed to it. I'm surprised

 

[3C's]

Army -15 tonight, right?

And some. Thought it was odd for a ranked team to be playing a 5-7 mid?-major.

La Tech was a fill-in team for Marshall, who had to drop out of the game after 20 players entered the portal. The Independence Bowl (in Shreveport) reached out to a few of the "next eligible" teams and La Tech was the closest one nearby who agreed to it. I'm surprised

Thanks, forgot about Marshall opting out.

 

[In The Zone]

Late to the fun party but, I liked, and looked forward to UFs Bowl game this year....

Same here. I'll be in attendance @ the Citrus watching my Gamecocks!!

Can't wait.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Army -15 tonight, right?

Probably. Anger from Navy loss + there is no such thing for the academies to quit on a bowl game. They always show up; it’s a question of whether they’re overmatched in their game or not. But they won’t sleepwalk.

I think someone posted a theory earlier that the service academies have an unexpected advantage in bowl games in the current paradigm because their players will presumably never transfer or enter the portal.

 

[General Malaise]

Army -15 tonight, right?

Probably. Anger from Navy loss + there is no such thing for the academies to quit on a bowl game. They always show up; it’s a question of whether they’re overmatched in their game or not. But they won’t sleepwalk.

I think someone posted a theory earlier that the service academies have an unexpected advantage in bowl games in the current paradigm because their players will presumably never transfer or enter the portal.

They also don't suffer from general apathy or have trouble finding motivation.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Army -15 tonight, right?

Probably. Anger from Navy loss + there is no such thing for the academies to quit on a bowl game. They always show up; it’s a question of whether they’re overmatched in their game or not. But they won’t sleepwalk.

I think someone posted a theory earlier that the service academies have an unexpected advantage in bowl games in the current paradigm because their players will presumably never transfer or enter the portal.

They also don't suffer from general apathy or have trouble finding motivation.

Yeah I can't imagine a player for Army sitting out a bowl game to protect his draft stock.

 

[Instinctive]

Army -15 tonight, right?

Probably. Anger from Navy loss + there is no such thing for the academies to quit on a bowl game. They always show up; it’s a question of whether they’re overmatched in their game or not. But they won’t sleepwalk.

I think someone posted a theory earlier that the service academies have an unexpected advantage in bowl games in the current paradigm because their players will presumably never transfer or enter the portal.

They also don't suffer from general apathy or have trouble finding motivation.

Yeah I can't imagine a player for Army sitting out a bowl game to protect his draft stock.

No transfer shenanigans either really for the academies.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

South Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers signed to become head coach at Washington State

 

[Jayded]

Army -15 tonight, right?

Probably. Anger from Navy loss + there is no such thing for the academies to quit on a bowl game. They always show up; it’s a question of whether they’re overmatched in their game or not. But they won’t sleepwalk.

I think someone posted a theory earlier that the service academies have an unexpected advantage in bowl games in the current paradigm because their players will presumably never transfer or enter the portal.

They also don't suffer from general apathy or have trouble finding motivation.

Yeah I can't imagine a player for Army sitting out a bowl game to protect his draft stock.

No transfer shenanigans either really for the academies.

There are always a few going out, but rarely ever going in. Agreed on the core of the statement though that it does set them apart.

Just one example for folks is NFL safety Alohi Gilman. He started at Navy but transferred to Notre Dame. He’s not alone, but the predominance of their players don’t transfer.

 

[Joe Bryant]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

 

[belljr]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

 

[CletiusMaximus]

South Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers signed to become head coach at Washington State

like clockwork

@PeteThamel
South Dakota State quarterback Mark Gronowski tells ESPN that he intends to enter the NCAA transfer portal. He’s also strongly considering entering the NFL draft, and the portal entry is a way for him to weigh all of his options. He went 49-6 and threw more than 10,000 yards.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1873416638986682629/photo/1

 

[culdeus]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

Who opted out for Georgia?

 

[belljr]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

Who opted out for Georgia?

Beck is IR .....

 

[Joe Bryant]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

Maybe you know something I don't and can somehow speak for all Georgia fans. I can't speak for all their fans. But the Georgia fans I know who follow football have dramatically changed their expectations. As they should.

Losing a veteran QB that good and experienced in the system this late in the year is a huge disadvantage.

Just like Eagle fans want to win with Kenny Pickett or Cowboys fans want to win with Cooper Rush, they still want to win of course. But the fans understand the game and can objectively realize what bad news this is.

 

[belljr]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

Maybe you know something I don't and can somehow speak for all Georgia fans. I can't speak for all their fans. But the Georgia fans I know who follow football have dramatically changed their expectations. As they should.

Losing a veteran QB that good and experienced in the system this late in the year is a huge disadvantage.

Just like Eagle fans want to win with Kenny Pickett or Cowboys fans want to win with Cooper Rush, they still want to win of course. But the fans understand the game and can objectively realize what bad news this is.

Wow way to be condescending, Just like I can't speak for all Georgia fans and you can't speak for all Georgia fans. My inlaws are still all in to win their playoff game against Notre Dame. Just because your circle is one way does not make it so for all. I never once said every Georgia fan is rooting the same but if you think Georgia fans aren't going to root for this win, I don't know what to tell you

And the topic was "giving up" on a team for a "meaningless" game not tempering expectations. You you think people aren't going to show up for the playoff game as others mentioned not going to a bowl game for free then idk what to say

 

[Joe Bryant]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

Maybe you know something I don't and can somehow speak for all Georgia fans. I can't speak for all their fans. But the Georgia fans I know who follow football have dramatically changed their expectations. As they should.

Losing a veteran QB that good and experienced in the system this late in the year is a huge disadvantage.

Just like Eagle fans want to win with Kenny Pickett or Cowboys fans want to win with Cooper Rush, they still want to win of course. But the fans understand the game and can objectively realize what bad news this is.

Wow way to be condescending, Just like I can't speak for all Georgia fans and you can't speak for all Georgia fans. My inlaws are still all in to win their playoff game against Notre Dame. Just because your circle is one way does not make it so for all. I never once said every Georgia fan is rooting the same but if you think Georgia fans aren't going to root for this win, I don't know what to tell you

And the topic was "giving up" on a team for a "meaningless" game not tempering expectations. You you think people aren't going to show up for the playoff game as others mentioned not going to a bowl game for free then idk what to say

Condescending that I can't speak for all Georgia fans? Sorry but I disagree.

The Georgia fans I know do think losing the experienced QB has changed things and what to expect. That only seems rational to me.

That's great if the people you know have not. I was offering what I've seen.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Just because your circle is one way does not make it so for all.

I was very clear to say it was the people I know.

But the Georgia fans I know...

 

[Instinctive]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

A much better way to communicate the core of my point.

 

[General Malaise]

The loss of Carson Beck hasn't seemed to do much to alter the odds of Georgia winning it all. Prior to his injury, I think Georgia was the 3rd or 4th choice to win it all. Right now, here are the odds to win the Championship.

Texas +320
Ohio State +340
Oregon +450
Georgia +500
Penn St. +500
Notre Dame +600

The rest are +7000

What do you guys think Beck healthy does with that number? I'd argue nothing. They did lose twice with Beck. He did throw 12 INTs, which was tied for 3rd in FBS. Just not sure a healthy Beck changes the Vegas odds at all. This current iteration of Georgia feels built on defense and the run game.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The loss of Carson Beck hasn't seemed to do much to alter the odds of Georgia winning it all. Prior to his injury, I think Georgia was the 3rd or 4th choice to win it all. Right now, here are the odds to win the Championship.

Texas +320
Ohio State +340
Oregon +450
Georgia +500
Penn St. +500
Notre Dame +600

The rest are +7000

What do you guys think Beck healthy does with that number? I'd argue nothing. They did lose twice with Beck. He did throw 12 INTs, which was tied for 3rd in FBS. Just not sure a healthy Beck changes the Vegas odds at all. This current iteration of Georgia feels built on defense and the run game.

Those odds were before Georgia beat Texas and won the SEC though. I'd argue Beck helps that number a good bit.

For sure, the 12 Interceptions were a problem. But to be fair, he also threw for 3,485 yards and 28 touchdowns.

He's clearly fallen some from this summer when he was projected to be a top NFL pick for 2025. But I think his experience and leadership in big games is a big positive. And will be missed. Now of course, maybe Stockton will look much better with some prep than he did against Texas. We'll see. But Kirby Smart strikes me as a good coach. If Beck wasn't the better choice, I would think Stockton would have been in there earlier instead of just talking about it. But we'll see.

And yes, I agree the defense and run game is their strength.

 

[belljr]

FWIW, I totally understand fans accepting the contexts for games and adjusting how they feel. I don't see that as being a fair weather fan at all. If 21 of your starting and 2nd string players are not playing, that massively changes the game.

Eagles fans with Kenny Pickett today still want their team to win. But they also understand reality. It's how Georgia fans will feel this week. And if a team were to rest all their key starters, that would dramatically change how a fan saw the game.

Georgia fans have not changed their expectations or interest even a little IMO

Maybe you know something I don't and can somehow speak for all Georgia fans. I can't speak for all their fans. But the Georgia fans I know who follow football have dramatically changed their expectations. As they should.

Losing a veteran QB that good and experienced in the system this late in the year is a huge disadvantage.

Just like Eagle fans want to win with Kenny Pickett or Cowboys fans want to win with Cooper Rush, they still want to win of course. But the fans understand the game and can objectively realize what bad news this is.

Wow way to be condescending, Just like I can't speak for all Georgia fans and you can't speak for all Georgia fans. My inlaws are still all in to win their playoff game against Notre Dame. Just because your circle is one way does not make it so for all. I never once said every Georgia fan is rooting the same but if you think Georgia fans aren't going to root for this win, I don't know what to tell you

And the topic was "giving up" on a team for a "meaningless" game not tempering expectations. You you think people aren't going to show up for the playoff game as others mentioned not going to a bowl game for free then idk what to say

Condescending that I can't speak for all Georgia fans? Sorry but I disagree.

The Georgia fans I know do think losing the experienced QB has changed things and what to expect. That only seems rational to me.

That's great if the people you know have not. I was offering what I've seen.

No this is

Maybe you know something I don't and can somehow speak for all Georgia fans