Who are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
My next question is.... If you had 1.01 next year in 1QB Dynasty, who are you taking over him?
No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
The bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling
What is their best win this year? Illinois? My god they played nobodyPenn State got a super cush draw here. Playing two pretty meh teams in a row.
Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
Boise StateWhat is their best win this year? Illinois? My god they played nobodyPenn State got a super cush draw here. Playing two pretty meh teams in a row.
Just imagine if they drew Alabama and TennesseePenn State got a super cush draw here. Playing two pretty meh teams in a row.
SEC is 1-4 against the Big Ten. Maybe Illinois was the real snub and should have had Tennessee's spot.Just imagine if they drew Alabama and TennesseePenn State got a super cush draw here. Playing two pretty meh teams in a row.
ASU had a bye how would they be playing OregonI thought I understood sort of why they didn't reseed, but now I don't. The actual bowls are this round. Does that really change travel plans or something important? Though I suppose if you reseeded Oregon would be playing Arizona State.
If they reseeded by who is actually good.ASU had a bye how would they be playing OregonI thought I understood sort of why they didn't reseed, but now I don't. The actual bowls are this round. Does that really change travel plans or something important? Though I suppose if you reseeded Oregon would be playing Arizona State.
Big 10!SEC is 1-4 against the Big Ten. Maybe Illinois was the real snub and should have had Tennessee's spot.Just imagine if they drew Alabama and TennesseePenn State got a super cush draw here. Playing two pretty meh teams in a row.
This narrative about SOS the SEC pushes needs to end before it starts.
I mean before last year your last undisputed natty came in like the 40s. Give them time.Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
Hes garbage. Not nfl. But make no mistake these michigan guys aint ****. This means nothingAgree, Michigan D has his number. He can’t deal with exotic coverage schemes and disguised blitz packages.Michugan’s 10 best players also opted out. This was a lot of young UM guys who were given a big chance to prove themselves. Obviously they did quite well.What teams? Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and South Carolina.What teams got rewarded for strength of schedule? Half the teams in the playoff didn't beat a ranked team. Only 1 one team with more losses that beat ranked teams got in, Clemson, and only because they won a P5 conference.
Heck, BYU was 10-2, beat a ranked team, had a stronger strength of schedule than SMU, a higher CFB power index ranking than SMU, even beat SMU head to head, and wasn't even talked about as a playoff team.
The real screwjob in all of this is this insane idea that conference championship games can help you if you win, but not hurt you if you lose. Like some kind of freebie game. It's never worked like that before and no one had a problem with it. Why people started down that crusade this year is beyond me. College football is not a standardized schedule like the NFL. Every conference handles things differently. Some have more conference games, some play a championship game, etc. The committee's job is to pick the teams based on the games they play, not standardize schedule by removing games but then count those exact same games for other teams. It's absurd. The committee will walk back that statement next year because it was so, so ridiculous.
Tell me with a straight face that a 3-loss ACC or Big XII team would even be considered for a top 12 slot. The only reason Bama and South Carolina were considered is SOS.
People have short memories on Texas too. Their SEC schedule has them avoiding everyone but Georgia, who beat them twice. Who is Texas’ biggest win? A&M or Michigan I guess? But they are in because they played an SEC schedule and only lost twice and yet no one is calling them and their favorable schedule out.
Uh...but neither of those teams got in, and got left out for teams with soft schedules, so what did that get them? Nothing.
And Texas is absolutely an example of a team that played a trash schedule and got rewarded for it. And it's absolutely been pointed out in here. I've argued about it twice in here myself, as others have as well.
Texas had an easy schedule, beat no ranked teams, lost their last game, and got the 5th seed in the playoff
South Carolina beat two ranked teams, ended the season on a 6 game win streak and by beating a playoff team in their last game, and got left out of the playoffs.
How is that rewarding teams for playing a harder schedule, and factoring in when the losses/wins happened? South Carolina played a harder overall schedule (4 ranked teams versus 2), beat two ranked teams to Texas' zero, and finished the season out more strongly, yet finished like 9 spots behind Texas because they had one more loss.
Play an easy schedule, get fewer losses is 100% the optimal path the CFP.
There are 8 teams playing in the playoff this weekend and those 8 teams had a COMBINED three wins against ranked opponents this year.
Bama had more ranked wins than all those posers
Good showing by Bama today......
:crickets:
Crap, Milroe played in this and they still got worked? Did the rest of Bama opt out? Or was Bama just not that good all along?
Milroe should have opted out. Did himself no favors today.
I can’t imagine anyone outside of corn country would claim a coaches poll trophyI mean before last year your last undisputed natty came in like the 40s. Give them time.Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
lol I have no rooting interest but Nebraska would have dog walked that Michigan teamI can’t imagine anyone outside of corn country would claim a coaches poll trophyI mean before last year your last undisputed natty came in like the 40s. Give them time.Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
I would have liked to see Penn State vs Nebraska in 1994 but I know we probably would have lost. That Nebraska team was a juggernaut.lol I have no rooting interest but Nebraska would have dog walked that Michigan teamI can’t imagine anyone outside of corn country would claim a coaches poll trophyI mean before last year your last undisputed natty came in like the 40s. Give them time.Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
Ha ha. They can be very good but boy their players are sure running their mouths this week ( Howard and Smith). Stark contrast as to how Oregon is going about things. Starts with the coach as Lanning would never put up with that crap.Given the amount of run OSU has gotten the last couple weeks, you’d think they were the second coming of the best team in history.
How are they not favored by 14+?!? Seriously, you’d think they were the #1 team the entire second half of the season!
Boise sure seemed to be intent on getting Jeanty there at the end. Down by 3 scores but gave him the ball repeatedly. Don't blame them really but even if he'd have broken the record it would have been with an asterisk for me.I don't think Barry Sanders needs to worry about his record being broken tonight.
95% are told how great they are and a can't-miss though.At this point with free transfers what incentive do these kids even have to attend classes. I ask this seriously - are there even ramifications for not attending classes anymore?They have to fix it. If you're just gonna pay everyone, and be professional, and then you need to be professional about how you run your league. The transfer system as is, is bonkers.Portal chao is wild.They engendered it. We literally lost 25 first and second string players who didn't play today. It's not the team that played all year with all the portal losses. It's not the team that will play next year with all the portal additions.Lmao. College football mindset is incredible.Losing a scrimmage with a bunch of second and third stringers to Navy, mostly at full strength, is fine.
What else is it? It was 30 minutes from my house and a cheap ticket and we still didn't go LMAO indeed. The non CFP bowls are a garbage product.
At a minimum, they need to have the portal open after bowl season rather than before. Sure the players will miss the first couple weeks of class, but perhaps it’s time quit pretending that education is a priority for transferring players.
I think there is still value in attending classes and getting a degree for the great majority of D1 scholarship athletes, but its a good question - what are the ramifications for not attending classes? If each football team has 85 scholarships, that means there are over 10,000 college football players on scholarship each year. A very small percentage of those players have any realistic shot at playing in the NFL - maybe 5% or less just based on about 500 kids being drafted or signed to an NFL team each summer (most of whom won't last long and won't earn much.) For that 3-5%, it is likely true they have no incentive whatsoever to attend classes or get a college degree other than the NCAA's eligibility rules which are slowly crumbling and will soon be completely unenforceable.
There is a growing number of players in a middle group who can probably earn decent NIL money but who will never play professional football. As an example, the UNLV quarterback Matt Sluka transferred from an FCS school and was supposedly promised $100,000 to play football at UNLV. He left when the deal fell through and is still in the portal. Another from the basketball world is AJ Storr who is earning between $750k and $1m to play about 20 minutes per game for Kansas, his third school in three years. Why would they not play college sports as long as possible with that annual salary and essentially no living expenses? I think the 10th year senior is going to be a regular thing in our near future and the only question for these guys will be whether they have to actually attend and pass classes in order to play sports. My guess is those rules won't hold up long. The 4 year eligibility rules of our youth are already a thing of the past.
Then there is the great majority of D1 college football players who likely can't earn significant NIL and are truly just playing for the scholarship and the fun of playing college football. As a purely speculative guess, I would think this category is probably 70-80% of all D1 football players. For these guys, its not so much about what they have to do under the rules but that they are strongly incented to maintain their scholarships and get that degree. There is still tremendous value for these kids to get four years of tuition, room/board and all the other perks.
NIL and the transfer portal is eroding the edge that the elite SEC teams had. Reading the story about the Texas qb Ewins is a prime example. He is offered $6 mil to transfer. Normally it's not a big deal because of Manning taking over. What happens if Ewins (or Manning) leave and the other gets hurt? Kids don't want to sit 2-3 years anymore.Top of the Big 10 is clearly a huge step above everyone else this year. SEC is the most down it's been in 20 years but living off past rep this year.
There is no line big enough for the Oregon/OSU winner vs Texas (if Texas gets by ASU). Same thing with whichever Big10 team eventually plays Georgia (super overrated this year) if that match up happens.
I've been yelling it in this thread. My two largest sports bets ever were against Tennessee and against Bama these last few days. I will double that if Texas or Georgia get matched up with a big 10 team the rest of the way.
Maybe. They had one common opponent- Colorado. Michigan handled them much better but it was a home game where Nebraska went to Boulder.lol I have no rooting interest but Nebraska would have dog walked that Michigan teamI can’t imagine anyone outside of corn country would claim a coaches poll trophyI mean before last year your last undisputed natty came in like the 40s. Give them time.Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
Milroe is definitely not NFL caliber. Guy is like if you made a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of Jalen Hurts. But I think Michigan might have the best defense in the country this year- especially if they had their top players on the field. Look what they did to Bama and Ohio State. They carried this team all year due to some of the worst QB play in the country. A competent QB and Michigan is playing tonight, not the Buckeyes.Hes garbage. Not nfl. But make no mistake these michigan guys aint ****. This means nothing
Boo!I would have liked to see Penn State vs Nebraska in 1994 but I know we probably would have lost. That Nebraska team was a juggernaut.lol I have no rooting interest but Nebraska would have dog walked that Michigan teamI can’t imagine anyone outside of corn country would claim a coaches poll trophyI mean before last year your last undisputed natty came in like the 40s. Give them time.Their last natty came under the Reagan administrationThe bitterness when Michigan just won a title is astounding.No way Indiana and Michigan has OSU's # due to culture and toughness. They lost to Illinois, they'd lose to Penn St
lolWho are the 4 better teams in the BIG? And please don't say IndianaPeople wanted to give this guy the heisman? He’s barely getting 3 yards a carry against like the 5th best team in the big 10
I'll give you Oregon and OSU and they're both in the quarter finals and one is guaranteed the semi's. Probably both would make the semi's if it weren't for Boise's and ASU's byes.
Boise St is a Mountain West team going against a top 3 Big D in a conference that is stronger with the addition of the Pac 12 teams.
Boise is clearly over matched up front.
Has it been a great game for him, absolutely no, but he still has 24/96/4.0 and 3/22 against a team of this magnitude that they haven't faced all year and wouldn't face until the expanded playoffs.
Oregon
Michigan
OSU
Indiana
What’s the last big game Penn State won? A natty like 40 years ago?
You want to tell me they’re a solid 4 in the new big 10, fine, that’s their ceiling![]()
That will come next year.Miltoe is definitely not NFL caliber. Guy is like if you made a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of Jalen Hurts. But I think Michigan might have the best defense in the country this year- especially if they had their top players on the field. Look what they did to Bama and Ohio State. They carried this team all year due to some of the worst QB play in the country. A competent QB and Michigan is playing tonight, not the Buckeyes.Hes garbage. Not nfl. But make no mistake these michigan guys aint ****. This means nothing
Word has it that Miami team in 1986 was a juggernaut as well. Coach Jimmy Johnson, Vinny ("It's intercepted!") Testaverde, Michael Irvin, Alonzo Highsmith, Bennie Blades, Brett Perriman ... they were loaded.I would have liked to see Penn State vs Nebraska in 1994 but I know we probably would have lost. That Nebraska team was a juggernaut.
2001 Miami was their best team, right?Word has it that Miami team in 1986 was a juggernaut as well. Coach Jimmy Johnson, Vinny ("It's intercepted!") Testaverde, Michael Irvin, Alonzo Highsmith, Bennie Blades, Brett Perriman ... they were loaded.I would have liked to see Penn State vs Nebraska in 1994 but I know we probably would have lost. That Nebraska team was a juggernaut.
Say what you will about the CFP, but it is certainly nice having teams play head-to-head for the championship (regardless of the number in the tourney).
I think it's too soon to tell, but my gut tells me we'll have years with some great early-round games and some years like this.Feels like every bowl game has been amazing and every playoff game a dud. Don’t know what that means, if anything.
Thanks. What ranking source do you like for strength of schedule?Michigan easily had the hardest schedule in the nation.
It would have had an asterisk to start with given they didn't count Sanders's bowl game yardage with his total. Boise forcing the record like that would have made it a double asterisk.Boise sure seemed to be intent on getting Jeanty there at the end. Down by 3 scores but gave him the ball repeatedly. Don't blame them really but even if he'd have broken the record it would have been with an asterisk for me.I don't think Barry Sanders needs to worry about his record being broken tonight.
Feels like every bowl game has been amazing and every playoff game a dud. Don’t know what that means, if anything.