2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (2 Viewers)

[Corporation]

And that ends Alabama playoff hopes. I know a lot of people say it is undeserved, but there is no comparison between the schedules the 2 played. Same for Ole Miss and South Carolina. Oh well.

 

[fasteddie_21]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

 

[culdeus]

Devastating. Feel like bama takes the spot.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

 

[Corporation]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

 

[Major]

If Clemson pulls this off, Bama is out now with SMU coming back, right? Curious how the committee would then see it.

This was the worst case scenario and the one I thought would happen. Needed an SMU win or Clemson blowout. A close loss gets them in I think.

The selection committee guy said they don't want to punish teams for playing in Conference Championship games so I assume they're in after losing on a last second kick.

 

[Jayded]

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise St
4. ASU
5. Texas vs. 12. SMU
6. Penn State vs 11. Clemson
7. Notre Dame vs 10. Indiana
8. Ohio State vs. 9. Tennessee

IMO.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

 

[Schmeabs]

What is your guess for final rankings? I would go with.
1) Oregon
2) Georgia
3) Boise State
4) Arizona State
5) Texas
6) Notre Dame
7) Ohio State
8) Penn State
9) Tennessee
10) Indiana
11) Clemson
12) SMU

 

[jon_mx]

The selection committee will have a fun time ranking the teams and setting up the matchups. Right now I would project it to be:

#1 Seed: Oregon (bye)

#2 Seed: Georgia (bye)

#3 Seed: Boise State (bye)

#4 Seed: ASU (bye)

#5 Seed: Texas vs. #12 Seed: ASU

#6 Seed: Penn State vs. #11 Seed Clemson

#7 Seed: Notre Dame vs. #10 Indiana

#8 Seed: Ohio St. vs. #9 Seed: Tenn



Lots to debate though:

Who gets the 4th and who gets the last automatic bid between ASU and Clemson. ASU has a slight edge and gets the nod.

The 5 thru 7 seeds are pretty much interchangeable. How much will they penalize Texas and Penn St with their loses verse Noter Dame which did not play. IMO they keep their relative ranking the same.

Also the final at large Seed #12 will be between SMU and Alabama. As long as SMU kept it close, I think they stay ahead of Alabama which bumps Alabama out of the tourney. But Alabama always gets some favoritism, but SMU will still get the nod..

The other positions are locks.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Watching these announcers bloviate on. "I think they've earned it, the way they went out there tonight they proved that they belong and they earned that".

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

12 teams is so dumb.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The selection committee will have a fun time ranking the teams and setting up the matchups. Right now I would project it to be:

#1 Seed: Oregon (bye)

#2 Seed: Georgia (bye)

#3 Seed: Boise State (bye)

#4 Seed: ASU (bye)

#5 Seed: Texas vs. #12 Seed: ASU

#6 Seed: Penn State vs. #11 Seed Clemson

#7 Seed: Notre Dame vs. #10 Indiana

#8 Seed: Ohio St. vs. #9 Seed: Tenn



Lots to debate though:

Who gets the 4th and who gets the 12th between ASU and Clemson. ASU has a slight edge and gets the nod.

The 5 thru 7 seeds are pretty much interchangeable. How much will they penalize Texas and Penn St with their loses verse Noter Dame which did not play. IMO they keep their relative ranking the same.

Also the final at large Seed #12 will be between SMU and Alabama. As long as SMU kept it close, I think they stay ahead of Alabama which bumps Alabama out of the tourney. But Alabama always gets some favoritism, but SMU will still get the nod..

The other positions are locks.

I don't think Texas, PSU, and ND are locks in that order. Those three could be any order, IMO. Clemson and SMU should be 11 and 12. If Alabama gets in over SMU, then Clemson and Arizona St should be ranked ahead of Boise.

 

[whoknew]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Watching these announcers bloviate on. "I think they've earned it, the way they went out there tonight they proved that they belong and they earned that".

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

12 teams is so dumb.

Clemson is a bad team? Then what is Alabama?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Watching these announcers bloviate on. "I think they've earned it, the way they went out there tonight they proved that they belong and they earned that".

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

12 teams is so dumb.

Clemson is a bad team? Then what is Alabama?

Also a bad team, as I've said like 4 times over the last 3 pages. So is SMU.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

The obvious choice is South Carolina, who has no really bad losses, has at least 3 wins better than SMU's best win (probably more than 3), and has beaten multiple ranked teams including this same Clemson team, last week, on the road.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

The obvious choice is South Carolina, who has no really bad losses, has at least 3 wins better than SMU's best win (probably more than 3), and has beaten multiple ranked teams including this same Clemson team, last week, on the road.

I don't disagree about South Carolina but they did lose to Alabama and Ole MIss too. Ole Miss has as much of an argument as Alabama and SC.

 

[jon_mx]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

 

[fasteddie_21]

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise St
4. ASU
5. Texas vs. 12. SMU
6. Penn State vs 11. Clemson
7. Notre Dame vs 10. Indiana
8. Ohio State vs. 9. Tennessee

IMO.

This looks right to me. And as an Oregon fan, I'm hoping for this.

 

[whoknew]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

The obvious choice is South Carolina, who has no really bad losses, has at least 3 wins better than SMU's best win (probably more than 3), and has beaten multiple ranked teams including this same Clemson team, last week, on the road.

I don't disagree about South Carolina but they did lose to Alabama and Ole MIss too. Ole Miss has as much of an argument as Alabama and SC.

Ole Miss' problem is the Kentucky loss (at home, to boot). But I agree they're probably a better choice than Bama.

 

[jon_mx]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

The obvious choice is South Carolina, who has no really bad losses, has at least 3 wins better than SMU's best win (probably more than 3), and has beaten multiple ranked teams including this same Clemson team, last week, on the road.

The committee was absolutely clear they were not changing the rankings of teams which did not play., so zero chance South Carolina is in the discussion.

 

[culdeus]

Texas is not good. You have an Arizona State team somehow getting a bye over them despite being completely off the radar the entire year.

12 teams was stupid.

 

[fasteddie_21]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

My issue here is Texas gets punished for losing in their 'bonus' game and falls behind two teams that sat at home tonight? That doesn't sit right IMHO.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Texas is not good. You have an Arizona State team somehow getting a bye over them despite being completely off the radar the entire year.

12 teams was stupid.

Don't watch then. 12 teams created a lot better games with meaning including tonights game. 4 teams was stupid as they were leaving out 13-0 conference champions to make sure Alabama was gifted their spot.

 

[jon_mx]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

Because they are not counting loses in the extra game (conference championships) as equal to regular season loses.

 

[Nigel]

With God so firmly on their side Clemson will be tough out.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

My issue here is Texas gets punished for losing in their 'bonus' game and falls behind two teams that sat at home tonight? That doesn't sit right IMHO.

Texas might not fall behind anyone in the rankings and still be #2. At worst they fall behind Notre Dame and that's a minimal thing in their seed.

 

[fasteddie_21]

My take on what I think it SHOULD be (and hope this is how it is):


1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Texas
6 - Penn State
7 - Notre Dame
8 - Ohio State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - SMU

 

[Jayded]

With the top 4 shaking out how it appears it will, getting the 5 or 6 seed seems like the ideal path this year.

Between Texas, Penn State, and Notre Dame, that is where the ideal draws lie. You have a game at home followed by the two weakest conference champions to make the final 4.

 

[jon_mx]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

My issue here is Texas gets punished for losing in their 'bonus' game and falls behind two teams that sat at home tonight? That doesn't sit right IMHO.

There is no chance Texas and Penn State fall below Ohio State. Notre Dame maybe.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

Because Penn State didn't get beat by a 6-win team last weekend at home. H2H doesn't trump everything else that happens.

 

[whoknew]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

My issue here is Texas gets punished for losing in their 'bonus' game and falls behind two teams that sat at home tonight? That doesn't sit right IMHO.

I hear you but what is Texas's best win? Over A&M? They don't really have much else.

 

[Corporation]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

That being the only argument is simply not correct. Alabama has undeniably much better wins than SMU. Alabama also has undeniably worse losses. A lot of people, both for and against, can not speak logically when discussing Alabama.

I believe SMU will get in over Alabama. I think Alabama did more on the field, but left themselves vulnerable with terrible losses. I will not be outraged when Alabama is left out, and I look forward to the future with Coach Deboer.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

My issue here is Texas gets punished for losing in their 'bonus' game and falls behind two teams that sat at home tonight? That doesn't sit right IMHO.

There is no chance Texas and Penn State fall below Ohio State. Notre Dame maybe.

Right. Ohio St, Tennessee and Indiana feel locked into 8, 9 and 10 seeds in that order. Texas will be ahead of Penn State but will one or both fall behind Notre Dame?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Texas is not good. You have an Arizona State team somehow getting a bye over them despite being completely off the radar the entire year.

12 teams was stupid.

Don't watch then. 12 teams created a lot better games with meaning including tonights game. 4 teams was stupid as they were leaving out 13-0 conference champions to make sure Alabama was gifted their spot.

Conference championship games have never mattered less. Likely every team that was in the hunt and lost tonight will get in anyway. Texas/UGA and Penn St/Oregon, which would normally have been MASSIVE games, were practically meaningless.

 

[Schmeabs]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

Exactly. Penn State will be below Ohio State

 

[whoknew]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

Because Penn State didn't get beat by a 6-win team last weekend at home. H2H doesn't trump everything else that happens.

I mean, PSU barely beat Bowling Green, went to OT with USC, and beat MN by 1. Not exactly a juggernaut here.

And then they lost - at home - to the very team we are ranking them against. If I were on that committee, I would have OSU above PSU. And I freakin' hate OSU.

Also - can we all just remember how Michigan beat Ohio State a week ago? And have won 4 straight? That's fun.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

No way you can keep SMU out after that. Alabama...out.

Because they lost close to a Clemson team that was 0-2 against SEC opponents including an 30+ points smashing against the same Georgia team that Alabama beat?

SMU and Bama both suck and they should both stay home. I'll shed no tears for either. But 0-2 against ranked teams and nothing resembling a good win on their resume. They are trash.

They both suck? Hmm that's interesting.

SMU is certainly an exciting team and they can't fault how their schedule shook out. I do agree they don't have a significant win. They will counter they don't have 2 dumb losses. I think SMU will be the pick.

"They can't fault how their schedule shoot out" is what you say about an undefeated team that didn't get a chance to prove themselves against a good team. Not a 2-loss team that had multiple chances to do that and failed both times.

SMU shouldn't be penalized for losing on a walk off 56 yard FG in the conference championship game while Alabama sits at home two weeks after a 6-win Oklahoma team absolutely dominated them. Alabama's only argument is their history and the SEC nonsense.

That being the only argument is simply not correct. Alabama has undeniably much better wins than SMU. Alabama also has undeniably worse losses. A lot of people, both for and against, can not speak logically when discussing Alabama.

I believe SMU will get in over Alabama. I think Alabama did more on the field, but left themselves vulnerable with terrible losses. I will not be outraged when Alabama is left out, and I look forward to the future with Coach Deboer.

If we're going to go on the wins thing, then SMU should probably get in over Texas. Texas played the SEC version of an SMU schedule.

 

[fasteddie_21]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

My issue here is Texas gets punished for losing in their 'bonus' game and falls behind two teams that sat at home tonight? That doesn't sit right IMHO.

I hear you but what is Texas's best win? Over A&M? They don't really have much else.

Oh I agree...but that ship sailed last week (and prior) with where they were ranked.

Based on THOSE rankings, that's just what makes sense to me, based on what they've said. But WTFK?

 

[Capella]

Lollllllllllll the committee is going to put Bama in over SMU who lost on a last second FG in a game they probably shouldn’t have played.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

Because Penn State didn't get beat by a 6-win team last weekend at home. H2H doesn't trump everything else that happens.

I mean, PSU barely beat Bowling Green, went to OT with USC, and beat MN by 1. Not exactly a juggernaut here.

And then they lost - at home - to the very team we are ranking them against. If I were on that committee, I would have OSU above PSU. And I freakin' hate OSU.

Also - can we all just remember how Michigan beat Ohio State a week ago? And have won 4 straight? That's fun.

I also don't think losers of conference championship games should drop below anyone behind them that didn't even play this weekend. Otherwise, they shouldn't even play these games. I was skeptical of Penn State myself but think they looked good tonight and deserve their ranking.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Oh and Syria and Assad have fallen. Been a night, eh?

 

[Corporation]

My prediction on the final rankings:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise
4. Arizona St
5. Texas
6. Penn St
7. Notre Dame
8. Ohio State
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. SMU
12. Clemson

 

[Capella]

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

Tell me who two of Bama’s losses were to lol

 

[fasteddie_21]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

Because Penn State didn't get beat by a 6-win team last weekend at home. H2H doesn't trump everything else that happens.

I mean, PSU barely beat Bowling Green, went to OT with USC, and beat MN by 1. Not exactly a juggernaut here.

And then they lost - at home - to the very team we are ranking them against. If I were on that committee, I would have OSU above PSU. And I freakin' hate OSU.

Also - can we all just remember how Michigan beat Ohio State a week ago? And have won 4 straight? That's fun.

I also don't think losers of conference championship games should drop below anyone behind them that didn't even play this weekend. Otherwise, they shouldn't even play these games. I was skeptical of Penn State myself but think they looked good tonight and deserve their ranking.

If SMU is out, A) they should have won and not left it to the committee and B) the committee punishes playing in CCG which is BS. Please do what, imho, is the only right thing, and not punish teams for their bonus game and cave to the name that is Alabama.

 

[Paddington]

Michigan beat Ohio State and as a Michigan fan, I am so glad. Ohio State is so cocky and arrogant. Michigan is always the underdog. We won the National Championship last year, but no respect. Lost our Coach Jim Harbaugh because Ohio State Coach Ryan Day couldn't beat him and caused the NCAA to endlessly harass Harbaugh for some sign stealing joke of a scandal that ALL schools do.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

My Prediction -

1 - Oregon
2 - UGA
3 - Boise
4 - Arizona State
5 - Notre Dame
6 - Ohio State
7 - Texas
8 - Penn State
9 - Tennessee
10 - Indiana
11 - Clemson
12 - Alabama

They are not going to knock down Texas and Penn St that much for losing in their conference championships, especially when they were nail-biters.

How does the committee rank Penn State above an Ohio State team that beat them in Happy Valley? When they each have 2 losses?

ETA: Also, Texas doesn't have any win as good as Ohio State's over Indiana.

Because Penn State didn't get beat by a 6-win team last weekend at home. H2H doesn't trump everything else that happens.

I mean, PSU barely beat Bowling Green, went to OT with USC, and beat MN by 1. Not exactly a juggernaut here.

And then they lost - at home - to the very team we are ranking them against. If I were on that committee, I would have OSU above PSU. And I freakin' hate OSU.

Also - can we all just remember how Michigan beat Ohio State a week ago? And have won 4 straight? That's fun.

I also don't think losers of conference championship games should drop below anyone behind them that didn't even play this weekend. Otherwise, they shouldn't even play these games. I was skeptical of Penn State myself but think they looked good tonight and deserve their ranking.

I don't get why everyone is harping on this all of the sudden. It's always been this way. When it was a 4-team playoff or even back in the BCS there were teams that would have been in if there were no conference championship games, but they still had to win them.

You play all the games in front of you and the committee decides based on that. It's always that way. Schedules aren't fair in college football. It's not fair that with similar ACC schedules Clemson had to play Georgia on opening week while SMU got to play the Houston Christian Huskies (not a made up school, that's actually who they played).

If CG games can help you, they can hurt you too. They're not a freebie. It's always been this way. You can't just "opt out" because you don't need it. It's part of the package.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

Tell me who two of Bama’s losses were to lol

If you keep reading you'll see I don't think Bama should be in either.

But "they belong because they lost close to a mediocre team" is the worst argument for a playoff team I've ever heard (which I guess makes sense, since this is the first year we have to pick 12 of these crappy teams).

There is zero argument for SMU being in over South Carolina who has (way) better wins, better losses, and just beat this exact same Clemson team on the road.