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2024 Detroit Lions 6-1: Lions "Dismember the Titans." On to Green Bay (46 Viewers)
- Thread starter Da Guru
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Borrowing this from another site:
"Chess not checkers" kind of move? Striking first and setting the market to screw over the contract negotiations between San Fran and Aiyuk, knowing they are our biggest threat in the NFC?"
Also Dallas and Minnesota with their WRs and what they will have to pay them.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Glad to see the ARSB news. He’s the centerpiece of the offense, and sets an amazing example for everyone else on the squad. Really happy for him.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Caught a few moments of 97.1 today waiting for MCDC to come on, and they were asking something similar. I heard what might be favorite idiot caller/texter evah.
Joe from Livonia:
“Caleb Williams? Looks like a guy who would not be comfortable backing up a trailer.”
General Malaise
Footballguy
I am definitely not comfortable backing up a trailer, so we have one thing in common. Nice.
Holmes just made former Oregon legend Penei Sewell the highest paid OL in the NFL. Talk about a guy worth every penny.....highest rated T in the NFL last year.
My SIL/BIL and her son are going to the draft tomorrow. I'm excited for them - happy to see Detroit in the spotlight for good reasons.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Awesome news on Penei; believe they just had their second child. Man it’s great having a guy who is stellar on the field, in the locker room and at his own home. Just like St, he’s only gotten better every year.
I gotta say it was a good day 
I gotta say it was a good day
General Malaise
Footballguy
Awesome news on Penei; believe they just had their second child. Man it’s great having a guy who is stellar on the field, in the locker room and at his own home. Just like St, he’s only gotten better every year.
Yeah, baby #2. Sewell married his college sweetheart who was a cheerleader at Oregon (I think). Her dad runs the Cross-fits here and she and her sister used to dance with my co-worker's daughter (how's that for a Save Ferris connection?). By all accounts, he's a great great great dude.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah I’m def feeling some FOMO about the draft. I used to work at the Ren Center in the 90s & downtown has really taken off since then. Jelly of anyone who gets to go this week!
whoknew
Footballguy
According to Schefter, no deal close with Goff.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Leads me to believe he isn't interested in taking the discount.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Meet the Lions 2024 International fan of the year
I know this chap! Met Ryan last year in Baltimore. He’s been a fan since 2008, saw his first London game in 2016 (DET v ATL), has been to the states every year since 2017 - 26 games in all, probably 2/3rds of them road games. Dude is good guy.
Wife & I slammed several beers with him in the hotel bar. There must have been 50 Lions fans staying at the same place (8 min walk to M&T Bank Stadium) and there was always like a couple dozen fans getting sauced in there every time we came back; had a blast. Also tailgated with him & a group of fans who have been going to Lions road trips for the last 5 years.
Highly recommend doing a road game sometime. We picked the worst game of the year (blowout loss) but I’m completely honest in saying it barely mattered. It was so much seeing thousands of fans in Honolulu Blue just take over the Inner Harbor for a couple days. Ryan was just one of several really cool people we met along the way.
I know this chap! Met Ryan last year in Baltimore. He’s been a fan since 2008, saw his first London game in 2016 (DET v ATL), has been to the states every year since 2017 - 26 games in all, probably 2/3rds of them road games. Dude is good guy.
Wife & I slammed several beers with him in the hotel bar. There must have been 50 Lions fans staying at the same place (8 min walk to M&T Bank Stadium) and there was always like a couple dozen fans getting sauced in there every time we came back; had a blast. Also tailgated with him & a group of fans who have been going to Lions road trips for the last 5 years.
Highly recommend doing a road game sometime. We picked the worst game of the year (blowout loss) but I’m completely honest in saying it barely mattered. It was so much seeing thousands of fans in Honolulu Blue just take over the Inner Harbor for a couple days. Ryan was just one of several really cool people we met along the way.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Just realized both deals today were extensions; the Lions picked up Sewell’s 5th year option, so the new deal doesn’t start until 2026. Locked down their first draft stars until 2028 (ARSB) and 2029.
Will be a couple days until we see the full breakdown of due at signing and what the annual cap hits will be. I believe 5th year options are by a formula of the average of top ___ players at their positions so it’ll be awhile until we know for certain what 58’s salary will be next year.
Will be a couple days until we see the full breakdown of due at signing and what the annual cap hits will be. I believe 5th year options are by a formula of the average of top ___ players at their positions so it’ll be awhile until we know for certain what 58’s salary will be next year.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Copy and paste of what menobrown posted in the player thread:
Contract details, as expected, are good, but not quite all it was sold as either:
$35m fully guaranteed, but practical guarantees of about $62m because his 2026 contract becomes guaranteed at some point in 2025. Does have some injury guarantees in year three which push that up to $77m but again that extra $14m guarantees is just for injuries.
If he never sees that final year of his deal, which is $36m, they essentially took the last year of his deal where he was due about $3.5M and folded that into a 4 year/84M contract, or if people prefer to look at is as they added 3 years/81m to the last year of his rookie deal. This again does not count the $36m due the last year of his deal.
Pittman and Ridley will each make more then him over the next 3 seasons but they did have more leverage since ASRB still had a year left ,and like I said in the example above, his 3 new years beat the first 3 years of both of their contracts.
Contract details, as expected, are good, but not quite all it was sold as either:
$35m fully guaranteed, but practical guarantees of about $62m because his 2026 contract becomes guaranteed at some point in 2025. Does have some injury guarantees in year three which push that up to $77m but again that extra $14m guarantees is just for injuries.
If he never sees that final year of his deal, which is $36m, they essentially took the last year of his deal where he was due about $3.5M and folded that into a 4 year/84M contract, or if people prefer to look at is as they added 3 years/81m to the last year of his rookie deal. This again does not count the $36m due the last year of his deal.
Pittman and Ridley will each make more then him over the next 3 seasons but they did have more leverage since ASRB still had a year left ,and like I said in the example above, his 3 new years beat the first 3 years of both of their contracts.
playin4beer
Footballguy
Heading to Detroit tomorrow afternoon for an invite only draft party at the Caucus Club.
What do I wear??
What do I wear??
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Ski mask.
ARSB details
2024
Base salary: $1,366,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $3,496,315
Dead cap money: $35,472,315
Cap number: $4,862,315
Per-game roster bonus: $0
2025
Base salary: $8,300,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $30,610,000
Cap number: $13,910,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2026
Base salary: $27,500,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $9,900,000
Cap number: $33,110,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2027
Base salary: $23,370,000 ($14,834,00 guaranteed at signing)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $6,600,000
Cap number: $28,980,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2028
Base salary: $35,400,000
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $3,300,000
Cap number: $41,010,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
The 2028 will probably not be picked up without renegotiating, just a fluffer to make him the highest paid. Extremely team friendly the next two years.
2024
Base salary: $1,366,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $3,496,315
Dead cap money: $35,472,315
Cap number: $4,862,315
Per-game roster bonus: $0
2025
Base salary: $8,300,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $30,610,000
Cap number: $13,910,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2026
Base salary: $27,500,000 (Guaranteed)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $9,900,000
Cap number: $33,110,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2027
Base salary: $23,370,000 ($14,834,00 guaranteed at signing)
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $6,600,000
Cap number: $28,980,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
2028
Base salary: $35,400,000
Prorated bonus: $5,000,000
Dead cap money $3,300,000
Cap number: $41,010,000
Per game roster bonus: $510,000
The 2028 will probably not be picked up without renegotiating, just a fluffer to make him the highest paid. Extremely team friendly the next two years.
calcinorjones
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Sport jacket & decent dress shoes is fine, even tasseled loafers, as long as they look good.
(+ of course dark socks)
business casual (the old school definition) is the bare minimum
it’s upscale blue blood dining but given the nature of the event sharp casual is the way to go
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
playin4beer
Footballguy
Yikes.. Even for a draft party??
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Well so much for my idea of you and your date showing up in matching Hooker jerseys.
Obviously you need one of the helmets which hold two beer cans and a couple of straws. Throw a Lions sticker on it and you are golden.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I have not been there in years but it has always been a stuffy "Proper Attire" old school type of place. A place where all the high auto execs and lawyers hung out at back in the day. Even on their website it states "Proper attire Only"
That being said I was in downtown last night and went to a couple places and 90% of the attire I saw people had on NFL gear. The draft seems to being in the Mardi Gras types. Not the classiest.
If it were me I would dress somewhat clean and neat there but at this event I doubt they would turn anyone away. A nice Lion Logo quarter zip with black pants might work nice.
At the invite only parties though the people throwing the party usually make the rules.
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2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Upsate on getting to the draft, taking Jefferson from the East side was a dream. Zero traffic. The River East Garage access was quick and they had three shuttle buses waiting. Hart Plaza is PACKED with long lines for everything. Campos Martius is a little less busy but still crowded. Downtown in general looks stunning!!!
General Malaise
Footballguy
Sun God just out there serving the folks Little Caesars' Pizza - https://twitter.com/E_Woodyard/stat...ed/1ccxqh3/?responsive=trueis_nightmode=false
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jared Goff + Axel Foley - LA guy learns how to fit into Detroit from a Motown guy who understands both cities
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
A lot of buzz about trading up, I'll believe it when I see it
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I figure they might trade back. I'm expecting to see them draft a few developmental guys like OT Jordan Morgan, ED Jalyx Hunt and S Sione Vaki.
(brad being Brad, watch him go straight chalk - no one knows what he will do)
We're not used to being this far back in the draft, so here's a handy guide to when we might see the selection if they stick n pick.
29th pick by year:
- 2023: Saints select Bryan Bresee at 11:33 p.m. ET
- 2022: Patriots select Cole Strange at 11:12 p.m. ET
- 2021: Packers select Eric Stokes at 11:43 p.m. ET
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
AJ Brown gets 3 yrs, $96M extension - $84M GTD
ARSB one day reign as the highest paid WR has ended
ARSB one day reign as the highest paid WR has ended
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I believe it now.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
A 3rd was a little rich but good value at #25. Got in front of Green Bay who might have taken him.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
"There was a significant line between Terrion Arnold and the next best CB in the draft. He fits us like a glove, he fits us to a T.
Never thought he'd be there. Couldn't be more thrilled."
- Villain
Never thought he'd be there. Couldn't be more thrilled."
- Villain
playin4beer
Footballguy
It was a non issue. Private party...lots of jerseya etc
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Brad said he was starting to make calls to move up in the late teens.
Said he doesn't want to say he's speechless, but he's thrilled with how the things went tonight.
Said he doesn't want to say he's speechless, but he's thrilled with how the things went tonight.
Moonlight
Footballguy
Looking forward to seeing the Lions war room reactions when the Arnold pick is made.
Getting arguably the 1 corner late is unusual in this draft age.
jabarony
Footballguy
What a jerk. With that new contract, you think he'd be handing out Buddy's or even Jets.
At least it's not Dominos.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Terrion Arnold
PFF Profile:
Stats:
- Active, aggressive, physical, smart playmaking Corner
- + 4-phase special teamer (K Cov, P Ret, P Cov, FG Blk)
- Just turned 21. From a stylistic perspective, ideal scheme fit; mentally, exactly their style of player.
PFF Profile:
Stats:
- 1 missed tackle on the season in RDEF (grade 90.6)
- 10.3% missed tackle rate, 7 of them v the pass (mostly from awkward angles - def not an ankle tackler, he wraps up)
- 6.5 TFL (2nd best in this CB draft class)
- 471 coverage snaps, targeted 79 times, 41 completions (51.9%), 441 yards, 2 TDs, NFL Passer Rating 49.1
- 5 interceptions (1st in class) 13 PBUs (2nd in class)
- blitzed 11 times, 4 pressures, 1 sack
Moonlight
Footballguy
Nick Saban was doing commentary for ABC and said that Arnold was better playing press than zone and improved from previous year.
When asked about playing with Branch said that Arnold should play outside and Branch inside.
Saban said that coaching the DBs was his favorite part of coaching,
