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**2024 New York Jets official thread** - Disaster (3 Viewers)

Reddick hired Drew Rosenhaus.

“We look forward to working with the Jets to get this resolved as soon as possible,” Rosenhaus said. “Haason would like to be a New York Jet for years to come and our goal is to make that happen.”

LOLZ. You'll take your 1 year 15 million dollar deal (pro-rated) and like it. Prove yourself and MAYBE we can talk in February.

What exactly does Reddick need to do to "prove" himself? He's had 50.5 sacks the last 4 years for 3 different teams.
He your cousin or something?

Paying 30 year olds at athleticism-centric positions generally isn't great business.

This is a likely non playoff team that might be blowing things up with a new coach and starting over at qb this winter. Giving this guy a 3 year top of the market now would be insanity.
just came out that one of the conditions of the Reddick trade with Philly was it goes up to a 2d if he is traded to the NFC - so there goes half his market. Either an AFC team steps up to deal for him or he can sit out the rest of the year and have his contract toll so he can do it again next year. Seriously doubt Drew lets him do that - he'll report then get "injured"

Also agree with TLEF - hes a 30 yr old pass rusher who hasnt played at all in close to a year - more if he sits out the entire year....seriously doubt someone pays him crazy $ - def wont be the Jets

Not wanting to pay Reddick due to age and hoping to just get one year out of him and let him go and saying he needs "prove" it for a new contract are two totally different things. He's already proven it. But, as I said before, it is gross mismanagement by the Jets to even trade for Reddick who they KNEW was looking for a new deal and then expect him to play out his contract. If he was willing to play out his contract, he'd still be in Philly.
its been covered - seems like there was miscommunication or misrepresentation by one or both sides. Jets felt that he would come in and play on his deal. Obviously that wasnt the case and/or something changed. Regardless it really doesnt matter much to the Jets as he has to come in at some point or he is stuck for another year. Trust me no Jet fan is waiting on Reddick at this point

If your point is the Jets shouldnt have made the deal without a firm contract/written guarantee - probably true but lots of these things are done by the honor system. Being fired by CAA leads me to believe they think Reddick is in the wrong as agents rarely fire clients. But who cares at this point - Reddick is losing a prime earning year as he enters 30 yrs old and Jets have nothing to show for it - As for the 3rd rder in 2026 - whatever - they'll either trade him for something or he leaves and they'll get a comp pick.

Trust me the Jets have much bigger issues than Reddick!

It doesn't make logical sense that Reddick would communicate that he would play under his current contract to the Jets, but not his hometown team, the Eagles. The Jets either knew, or should have known that Reddick wasn't going to play out the season on his current deal simply based on the fact that he was on the market in the first place. If you're going to make a deal for him, you do so with the presumption that you're extending him. I have almost zero doubt that the Eagles granted, or would have granted the Jets permission to contact Reddick's agent to see what his asking price was before a trade was agreed upon. I don't think it was a miscommunication, I think it was a miscalculation by the Jets. They knew Reddick was looking for a new contract and thought that they could just play hardball with him, and that he would eventually show up week one with his tail tucked to avoid losing money. He stuck to his guns and here we are. You're right though, the Jets have bigger issues than Reddick, it starts at the top and permeates its way down to the product on the field.
 
Reddick hired Drew Rosenhaus.

“We look forward to working with the Jets to get this resolved as soon as possible,” Rosenhaus said. “Haason would like to be a New York Jet for years to come and our goal is to make that happen.”

LOLZ. You'll take your 1 year 15 million dollar deal (pro-rated) and like it. Prove yourself and MAYBE we can talk in February.

What exactly does Reddick need to do to "prove" himself? He's had 50.5 sacks the last 4 years for 3 different teams.
He your cousin or something?

Paying 30 year olds at athleticism-centric positions generally isn't great business.

This is a likely non playoff team that might be blowing things up with a new coach and starting over at qb this winter. Giving this guy a 3 year top of the market now would be insanity.
just came out that one of the conditions of the Reddick trade with Philly was it goes up to a 2d if he is traded to the NFC - so there goes half his market. Either an AFC team steps up to deal for him or he can sit out the rest of the year and have his contract toll so he can do it again next year. Seriously doubt Drew lets him do that - he'll report then get "injured"

Also agree with TLEF - hes a 30 yr old pass rusher who hasnt played at all in close to a year - more if he sits out the entire year....seriously doubt someone pays him crazy $ - def wont be the Jets

Not wanting to pay Reddick due to age and hoping to just get one year out of him and let him go and saying he needs "prove" it for a new contract are two totally different things. He's already proven it. But, as I said before, it is gross mismanagement by the Jets to even trade for Reddick who they KNEW was looking for a new deal and then expect him to play out his contract. If he was willing to play out his contract, he'd still be in Philly.
its been covered - seems like there was miscommunication or misrepresentation by one or both sides. Jets felt that he would come in and play on his deal. Obviously that wasnt the case and/or something changed. Regardless it really doesnt matter much to the Jets as he has to come in at some point or he is stuck for another year. Trust me no Jet fan is waiting on Reddick at this point

If your point is the Jets shouldnt have made the deal without a firm contract/written guarantee - probably true but lots of these things are done by the honor system. Being fired by CAA leads me to believe they think Reddick is in the wrong as agents rarely fire clients. But who cares at this point - Reddick is losing a prime earning year as he enters 30 yrs old and Jets have nothing to show for it - As for the 3rd rder in 2026 - whatever - they'll either trade him for something or he leaves and they'll get a comp pick.

Trust me the Jets have much bigger issues than Reddick!

It doesn't make logical sense that Reddick would communicate that he would play under his current contract to the Jets, but not his hometown team, the Eagles. The Jets either knew, or should have known that Reddick wasn't going to play out the season on his current deal simply based on the fact that he was on the market in the first place. If you're going to make a deal for him, you do so with the presumption that you're extending him. I have almost zero doubt that the Eagles granted, or would have granted the Jets permission to contact Reddick's agent to see what his asking price was before a trade was agreed upon. I don't think it was a miscommunication, I think it was a miscalculation by the Jets. They knew Reddick was looking for a new contract and thought that they could just play hardball with him, and that he would eventually show up week one with his tail tucked to avoid losing money. He stuck to his guns and here we are. You're right though, the Jets have bigger issues than Reddick, it starts at the top and permeates its way down to the product on the field.
Obviously you disagree - As I said the issue has been beaten to death and Jet fans really dont care so moving on.
 
I keep seeing people predicting the Jets trading Reddick to the Lions for a 6th or something like that. Why would they do that? They'd be costing themselves a 2nd round pick (by trading him to an NFC team) just to appease him. If their permission to seek a trade wasn't framed as: "If it's an NFC team that means at least a 2nd or no deal" Then I don't get it at all. Otherwise it would feel smarter to just cut him. That's a $750k cap hit and you don't lose a 2nd round pick because of it. If they trade him to an NFC and get anything less than a 2nd back it would feel like malpractice. An AFC team fine, you are already out the 3rd so whatever you get back offsets it to whatever extent. Trading him and making the initial price steeper for yourself is just plain dumb. I'd rather cut him or let him rot for the whole season.
 
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I keep seeing people predicting the Jets trading Reddick to the Lions for a 6th or something like that.

I think that's just people connecting dots and not realizing that a "poison pill" was inserted. I don't see anyway they're paying the Eagles a second - unless an NFC team was willing to pay a 2nd plus more. I don't see that.
 
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Yeah.....I guess I dont understand. All we heard for 2 months was that due to the new CBA, "the fines could not be waived". But now the Jets are waiving the fines? Color me confused, but whatever....not my money.
 
Well for all those saying there was no way Reddick would take a 1 yr deal - here we are. Really not a shock - as he didnt have any other option. Who cares about Woody paying the fines - its all about this season rather than teach him a lesson. Hopefully he is in decent shape and avoids the dreaded soft tissue injury when he returns but its a big addition. Adding 2 big time players in Devante and Reddick mid season hopefully will get this team back on track - very tough to win at Pitt
 
Well for all those saying there was no way Reddick would take a 1 yr deal - here we are. Really not a shock - as he didnt have any other option. Who cares about Woody paying the fines - its all about this season rather than teach him a lesson. Hopefully he is in decent shape and avoids the dreaded soft tissue injury when he returns but its a big addition. Adding 2 big time players in Devante and Reddick mid season hopefully will get this team back on track - very tough to win at Pitt
If they don’t beat Pittsburgh tonight - Reddick and Adams will be expensive pieces on a 7-10 team.
 
Yeah.....I guess I dont understand. All we heard for 2 months was that due to the new CBA, "the fines could not be waived". But now the Jets are waiving the fines? Color me confused, but whatever....not my money.
Apparently they aren't waiving them, what they are doing is adding bonuses to a "reworked" deal to offset them. One report said they were incentive based which would make me feel better. Either way I only care that he's in shape to play, motivated and contributes. Wish he'e have been available tonight, but it is what it is.
 
Yeah.....I guess I dont understand. All we heard for 2 months was that due to the new CBA, "the fines could not be waived". But now the Jets are waiving the fines? Color me confused, but whatever....not my money.
Apparently they aren't waiving them, what they are doing is adding bonuses to a "reworked" deal to offset them. One report said they were incentive based which would make me feel better. Either way I only care that he's in shape to play, motivated and contributes. Wish he'e have been available tonight, but it is what it is.
yep i read its incentives based on sacks - so he can offset the fines but getting sacks - I can live with that!

May be the dumbest holdout ever
 
Rodgers has weapons now, but his accuracy and decision making isn’t what it once was. Still the offense can work now that Hall has some running lanes and with Rodgers getting comfortable with his guys.
 
Did the Jets know that each of the first seven games count as much as each of the next ten do?

Were they aware? Or was the ship just taking on water and they got as many buckets on board as they could?

I'm going with the latter.
 
Not sure exactly what the Jets are going to do now. It's going to be difficult to keep guys from quitting on the year and taking care of their own bodies. Tough spot here. Don't envy anybody involved with it.
 
Not sure exactly what the Jets are going to do now. It's going to be difficult to keep guys from quitting on the year and taking care of their own bodies. Tough spot here. Don't envy anybody involved with it.
I thought they were heading in the right direction. Sure, they didn't have a QB. But they were installing pieces needed to win long-term. Then they signed Rodgers and well.....

I still think they can go on a run in an AFC with a weak middle.
 
I'm sure @Kiddnets will do his great full analysis as usual, but I'm really baffled how much of a step back this vaunted defense has taken, all the way from up front to the secondary. Say what you want about Saleh's shortcomings as a head coach, but the strongest parts of the team (defense and kicking) are right near the top of the biggest culprits. The offense was/is starting to come around to some extent, but it's not built to put up a lot of points in catch up mode.
 
Injuries are a big part of it. Right now they're down JJ(obviously not coming back) Carter (who is a key piece) AND DJ Reed. Plus some depth pieces who went in for them got knocked out too.

Giving up JFM for nothing and letting jefferson walk was just a killer. Neither is a world beater, but they were the tough beefy guys up front that set the tone. And they replaced them with kinlaw (who stinks) and more playing time for Clemmons (who stinks even worse)

And yes, they will almost certainly go on a run now and finish at like 9-8, missing a wild card spot by 1 game. It's the Jets way.

Gonna be fascinating to see how this off-season is handed. Rodgers has looked terrible. It isn't gonna get better. Realistically they should be selling to start the "rebuild". But they wont
 
Realistically they should be selling to start the "rebuild". But they wont
It’s actually been the opposite- trading assets for an old WR and now paying Reddick (who, let’s face it, isn’t going to be giving his best effort).
I had no issue with going after Adams. Thought it was the right move. But now, 3 losses later (after the discussion started) it appears to be a bad use of assets.

The prevailing thought in August was "if everything breaks right, this team COULD make the AFC title game". Now its "we need a miracle run to get the last WC spot".

Expectations change.
 
I'm sure @Kiddnets will do his great full analysis as usual, but I'm really baffled how much of a step back this vaunted defense has taken, all the way from up front to the secondary. Say what you want about Saleh's shortcomings as a head coach, but the strongest parts of the team (defense and kicking) are right near the top of the biggest culprits. The offense was/is starting to come around to some extent, but it's not built to put up a lot of points in catch up mode.
Still gathering myself for deeper analysis later but TLEF and Doc pretty much hit this one - Ill just add its a combo of JD letting too many pieces go (Huff, JFM and Jefferson) then injuries JJ, Carter, Reed and safety injuries. Plus coaching differently - not aggressive or creative to make changes when a team is exploiting. D rarely gets turnovers - Ive been very underwhelmed with Ulrich so far.

2-5 and on life support but definitely agree that this is where they usually go on a run - maybe not this year but thats been the MO.
 


The schedule is not very daunting from here on out, but based on the way the team has played so far, 5-5 seems like a best case scenario. It looks like Tua will be back for both Miami games and LA should have Kupp and likely Puka back by then.
 
They are simply a bad team. The defense has a ton of injuries but it was the two interceptions that led to 14 of those points. The one before the half was brutal and all on Rodgers. The one that bounced off Wilson's chest was deflected first, but still. That was pretty much where the season ended right there. With all of the on paper talent this offense has they are no better than the clown car offenses they've rolled out with busts and journeyman QBs over the past 2 decades.

My issue with the Adams deal is why did it take this long? Same with Reddick. Always too little too late with this team.
 


The schedule is not very daunting from here on out, but based on the way the team has played so far, 5-5 seems like a best case scenario. It looks like Tua will be back for both Miami games and LA should have Kupp and likely Puka back by then.
Yeah I don't see how anyone can have faith that they are going to suddenly be the team we hoped they could be this year. They have shown no signs of that.
 


The schedule is not very daunting from here on out, but based on the way the team has played so far, 5-5 seems like a best case scenario. It looks like Tua will be back for both Miami games and LA should have Kupp and likely Puka back by then.
Yeah I don't see how anyone can have faith that they are going to suddenly be the team we hoped they could be this year. They have shown no signs of that.
I'm not even sure they can go into New England and win that game. I hate to say it but Drake Maye looks very good - and the Jets may already have the worst QB in the division this year and what hope do we have for next year?
 
for years Jets have been a team with an elite defense that just needed a competent O to win. Unfortunately they now have a middle of the road defense and a less than competent offense. Not a combo set for a playoff run
 
for years Jets have been a team with an elite defense that just needed a competent O to win. Unfortunately they now have a middle of the road defense and a less than competent offense. Not a combo set for a playoff run
At least soon I can go back to hating Aaron Rodgers again - the worst part of all of this is having to root for that weirdo to succeed.

Next year Jordan Travis can battle Carson Wentz and some mid-round project QB and the winner can ride it out until we start having draft picks again to move up for the next Zach Wilson.
 
well here is the breakdown - still alive but as Mora said - playoffs? We just need to win a game!

QB: 1st few games I'd chalk up to rust - at this point in the season AR is what he is - an over the hill QB who will give you a glimpse now and then but nowhere near the MVP we remembered. Isnt out of the question he could get rolling but I havent seen anything to be optimistic about

OL - Train wreck - AR has been shaky but likely due to getting pasted time after time - biggest liability is Smith who looks like a shell of his former self. If they are serious about winning/accountability its time for him to be benched for Olu. AVT with his annual injury - guy can never stay healthy. They are going to have to rebuild the OL again next year

RB - Breece is space is great - without it hes very mid. At least the new OC created some plays for him. Allen has been phased out to a few plays here and there

WR - Tough day at the office for Garret Wilson. penalties, drops, fumbles - he took accountability but hes gotta fix this now. tough to kill Adams as he was with the team for a few days but on 1st look he seemed slow to me. Lazard somehow keeps making plays

TE: Conklin with his 1-2 catches - nice TD

DL - Time to apologize on McDonald - guy is a beast and looks much better than the turnstyle OL we all were pissed they missed out on. Run D non existent which has been par the course.

LBs - nice to see Mosely back - way to late on running support.

DBs - decimated -saw guys I never heard of before. Need to get healthy quick. Sauce big step back this year - looks shaky

ST - Z gets a kick blocked - looked like a low kick but tough to say. Gibson fumbles all the time - gotta replace him

Coaching - looks like the same story to me - notice more on the O side but that is because a Madden player could do better than Hackett. Ulrich in over his head.

They are not toast yet but zero faith that any game is a win at this point. Very disappointing.,
 
for years Jets have been a team with an elite defense that just needed a competent O to win. Unfortunately they now have a middle of the road defense and a less than competent offense. Not a combo set for a playoff run
At least soon I can go back to hating Aaron Rodgers again - the worst part of all of this is having to root for that weirdo to succeed.

Next year Jordan Travis can battle Carson Wentz and some mid-round project QB and the winner can ride it out until we start having draft picks again to move up for the next Zach Wilson.
Watching Darnold yesterday was depressing - its not the QBs they draft per se - except likely Wilson as he was awful - but its 90% coaching/development. When you hire defensive coaches (and a clueless Gase) year after year how can a QB be expected to develop? If this experiment fails like it seems to be - they need to hand over the keys to a young solid OC and pray.
 


The schedule is not very daunting from here on out, but based on the way the team has played so far, 5-5 seems like a best case scenario. It looks like Tua will be back for both Miami games and LA should have Kupp and likely Puka back by then.
Yeah I don't see how anyone can have faith that they are going to suddenly be the team we hoped they could be this year. They have shown no signs of that.
I'm not even sure they can go into New England and win that game. I hate to say it but Drake Maye looks very good - and the Jets may already have the worst QB in the division this year and what hope do we have for next year?
A draft pick right smack in the mushy middle as Arod, JD and the entire coaching staff are shown the door. Perfect spot for Aaron Glenn (who checks every box as a Jets HC candidate) to come in get us a fresh DT or S.
 
at least joe d can’t waste picks, he’s traded most of them for hold outs and junk. wonder what gm will be running the jest next year. well, besides woody.
 
i also wanted to thank the jest for this season of fun! i am used to the season being over during september, but having meaningful games during october was a welcome surprise. now i can turn to the nyk and nyr and the wonderful ownership of james dolan, who woody makes look like the rooney’s.
 
i also wanted to thank the jest for this season of fun! i am used to the season being over during september, but having meaningful games during october was a welcome surprise. now i can turn to the nyk and nyr and the wonderful ownership of james dolan, who woody makes look like the rooney’s.
Rags are already dead to me. Don't care how good they look in the regular season, come playoff time, they get dominated for 75% of the game against better teams and did zero to improve upon that.

Is it baseball season yet?
 
As a lifelong fan, I hate this organization so much right now. It's an absolute dumpster fire. We're now entering the phase of excuses and blame casting, which will be followed by "if you're not with us you're against us!", which falls way short of anything approaching success, which inevitably leads into mass firings, cuts, and more talk of "rebuilding". I don't care any more - Let it burn.
 
DL - Time to apologize on McDonald - guy is a beast and looks much better than the turnstyle OL we all were pissed they missed out on.
Good point - for all the (deserved) bashing the team gets, the emergence of McDonald shouldn't be overlooked.

ST - Z gets a kick blocked - looked like a low kick but tough to say. Gibson fumbles all the time - gotta replace him
As mentioned earlier, the specials have been anything but this year. Greg the Leg is kicking like Greg the Peg Leg. And Gipson had that crazy punt return in Game 1 last year in the Rodgers' Achilles game, but continues to get worse. At least we still have Moorstead.
 
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As a lifelong fan, I hate this organization so much right now. It's an absolute dumpster fire. We're now entering the phase of excuses and blame casting, which will be followed by "if you're not with us you're against us!", which falls way short of anything approaching success, which inevitably leads into mass firings, cuts, and more talk of "rebuilding". I don't care any more - Let it burn.
41 year old QB with a new coach and GM seems like a recipe for success to me!
 
Told my wife I am available for Sunday functions now, oh well, the Jets twist the knife again

Wait until they're 8-8 and you spend a wedding watching a "If the [insert team here] lose, the Jets are in, but only if the Jets win" game, your *** stuck to the seat by the two televisions at said wedding.

Have fun, mph!
 
As a lifelong fan, I hate this organization so much right now. It's an absolute dumpster fire. We're now entering the phase of excuses and blame casting, which will be followed by "if you're not with us you're against us!", which falls way short of anything approaching success, which inevitably leads into mass firings, cuts, and more talk of "rebuilding". I don't care any more - Let it burn.
41 year old QB with a new coach and GM seems like a recipe for success to me!
The assumption is Rodgers would be gone as well in a rebuild.
 
Such a disappointing season. This whole mess with Rodgers basically running the team is a disaster. At this point I just want to get rid of all the GB has beens and start over again next year. Need to get a smart coach with some experience that doesn’t take any crap from his players. Mike Vrabel come to mind.
I doubt it would shock anyone to see the Jets go on a mini run and have to win a final regular season game to get the last wild card spot just to get smacked down in that game. I’m almost expecting it as that would be the most Jetsy thing that could happen
 
I think they need to let Rodgers walk after the year - not because he cannot lead a playoff team, but because he craves drama. What head coach candidate in their right mind would want to take the Jets job if Rodgers is still there? He was outright hostile to Matt Lafleur and I don’t care what he says, he was the cause of Saleh losing his job in season.
 
Such a disappointing season. This whole mess with Rodgers basically running the team is a disaster. At this point I just want to get rid of all the GB has beens and start over again next year. Need to get a smart coach with some experience that doesn’t take any crap from his players. Mike Vrabel come to mind.
I doubt it would shock anyone to see the Jets go on a mini run and have to win a final regular season game to get the last wild card spot just to get smacked down in that game. I’m almost expecting it as that would be the most Jetsy thing that could happen
Like Vrabel but they absolutely can not hire yet another defensive minded coach.....must go offense for once
 
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Such a disappointing season. This whole mess with Rodgers basically running the team is a disaster. At this point I just want to get rid of all the GB has beens and start over again next year. Need to get a smart coach with some experience that doesn’t take any crap from his players. Mike Vrabel come to mind.
I doubt it would shock anyone to see the Jets go on a mini run and have to win a final regular season game to get the last wild card spot just to get smacked down in that game. I’m almost expecting it as that would be the most Jetsy thing that could happen
Like Vrabel but they absolutely can not hire yet another defensive minded coach.....must go offense for once

My metric to assess coaches/teams over a period is Conference Championship apearances. Not perfect by any means, but at that stage you're playing other elite teams and a single bounce can sometimes decide those games. If you're getting to that stage with any regularity you're doing a good job.

In the 2010s defensive coaches were actually dominating, especially with Super Bowl appearances and wins. You had Belichick, Carroll, Tomlin, Fox, Coughlin, Quinn... It was a decade of defensive coach dominance.

Things have changed now. No defensive coach has even appeared in an Conference Championship since 2020. Since 2019, you've had 2 total appearances (and losses) with Vrabel and McDermott. 2018 was the last time a defensive coach won a Conference Championship, Belichick's last Super Bowl. Offensive continuity has just become a lot more important than the fact that defensive coaches typically have more well rounded teams.
 

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