2024 Philadelphia Eagles - First one was for the fans. This one was for the team. Next one is for the legacy. (8 Viewers)

[Insein]

Why interview for that job is the better question.

millions of dollars?

Maybe. According to this, he's already pulling in $2.5 million (third highest paid OC in the NFL). If I were him I would try to win the Super Bowl this year, assume that another year of this offense is going to only do great things (upping your desirability to other teams), and see what job openings are available at the end of next season. Almost guaranteed to have better options next year.

I wish they should change the way coordinators are poached altogether. Put them on contracts. No coordinator should be poachable after a single year. Three year minimum before they're free game. If they wanna go interview for a head coach job, they have to quit and pay a fine first

Meh. I disagree. This is these guys livelihood and they have to strike when the irons hot. What they should do away with though is being allowed to interview while your team is still in contention. I know formally a team has to give permission to interview but no owner is going to say no because they want to be able to do the same in the future if necessary.

They should just treat it like free agency. No one can make moves until the official start of coaching free agency which would be the week after the Super Bowl. Just eliminate the interviewing/searching process from the playoffs. It frankly ****ed us in '22 because we couldn't do anything until the Super Bowl was over and by then, not only did we lose both coordinators but the gene pool of available talent had already been picked clean (we'd have had Fangio last year if Gannon had been up front about his plans to leave.) Anyone think this ****ing team would have melted down the way it did last year if Fangio was running the defense instead of Desai and pencil-boy!?!?

I think our roster was aging and the addition of weak coaches amplified our weaknesses to their fullest extent. In a way it was a blessing. If Fangio was here, we probably find a way to win 12-13 games and a playoff game masking our problems. Changes the whole focus of the off-season from major overhauls on defense to finding a few pieces and going all in one more time Phillies style.

 

[Insein]

HOw about a compromise then? If you poach one after he's been there one year, you give a 2nd, 2 years a 4th. The team getting poached should get some sort of compensation.

And yes, while these guys should be able to get promotions, they also sign contracts. They do make some commitments

From a fans perspective it would make sense but from running a business perspective, the teams out of it will always want the advantage to start sooner. No owner will ever vote against that because they're all in that boat at some point.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

HOw about a compromise then? If you poach one after he's been there one year, you give a 2nd, 2 years a 4th. The team getting poached should get some sort of compensation.

And yes, while these guys should be able to get promotions, they also sign contracts. They do make some commitments

From a fans perspective it would make sense but from running a business perspective, the teams out of it will always want the advantage to start sooner. No owner will ever vote against that because they're all in that boat at some point.

plus i'm quite certain there are more coordinators we don't want to keep after a year than there are ones we want to stick around for years. statistically speaking across the league that is. we been spoiled with the good hires, so happy enough with that. lots of not so good franchises who keep hiring good people who are not good coaches.

 

[Snotbubbles]

There have only been 8 QBs to reach 2 Super Bowls in their first 5 seasons:

Troy Aikman
Tom Brady
John Elway
Patrick Mahomes
Ben Roethlisberger
Kurt Warner
Russell Wilson
Jalen Hurts

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Sorry if this was already posted but here is a recap of last offseason by Zack Berman. I guess it was ok.

Four days in March for Howie Roseman...

March 11: Landon Dickerson agrees to a three-year contract extension
March 12: Rick Lovato, Braden Mann agree to contract extensions
March 13: Saquon Barkley agrees to 3-year contract, Zack Baun agrees to 1-year contract, Jake Elliott agrees to a 4-year contract extension, Bryce Huff agrees to 3-year contract, Matt Hennessy agrees to 1-year contract
March 14: C.J. Gardner-Johnson agrees to 3-year contract, DeVante Parker agrees to a 1-year contract

...In that period, Roseman signed MVP/OPOY/DPOY candidates; locked up a Pro Bowl guard; added a game-changing safety.

You don't hit on every decision, but looking for a week that helped propel the roster? Hard to beat that week...

Except maybe five days in April...

April 25: A.J. Brown agrees to 3-year contract extension; Eagles select Quinyon Mitchell with No. 22 overall pick
April 26: Eagles made a series of trades on Day 2 of the draft, select Cooper DeJean in Round 2, Jalyx Hunt in Round 3.
April 27: Day 3 of the draft; Eagles take 6 players, add '25 3rd-, 4th-, 5th-rd picks
April 29: Sign Mekhi Becton to a 1-year contract

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Sorry if this was already posted but here is a recap of last offseason by Zack Berman. I guess it was ok.

Four days in March for Howie Roseman...

March 11: Landon Dickerson agrees to a three-year contract extension
March 12: Rick Lovato, Braden Mann agree to contract extensions
March 13: Saquon Barkley agrees to 3-year contract, Zack Baun agrees to 1-year contract, Jake Elliott agrees to a 4-year contract extension, Bryce Huff agrees to 3-year contract, Matt Hennessy agrees to 1-year contract
March 14: C.J. Gardner-Johnson agrees to 3-year contract, DeVante Parker agrees to a 1-year contract

...In that period, Roseman signed MVP/OPOY/DPOY candidates; locked up a Pro Bowl guard; added a game-changing safety.

You don't hit on every decision, but looking for a week that helped propel the roster? Hard to beat that week...

Except maybe five days in April...

April 25: A.J. Brown agrees to 3-year contract extension; Eagles select Quinyon Mitchell with No. 22 overall pick
April 26: Eagles made a series of trades on Day 2 of the draft, select Cooper DeJean in Round 2, Jalyx Hunt in Round 3.
April 27: Day 3 of the draft; Eagles take 6 players, add '25 3rd-, 4th-, 5th-rd picks
April 29: Sign Mekhi Becton to a 1-year contract

This is Howie does it…

 

[GoBirds]

Oof, Elliot signed for 4 more years? He’s got to get it together. Love the rest and honestly who would’ve known he’d struggle like he has.

 

[DJackson10]

Why interview for that job is the better question.

millions of dollars?

Maybe. According to this, he's already pulling in $2.5 million (third highest paid OC in the NFL). If I were him I would try to win the Super Bowl this year, assume that another year of this offense is going to only do great things (upping your desirability to other teams), and see what job openings are available at the end of next season. Almost guaranteed to have better options next year.

I wish they should change the way coordinators are poached altogether. Put them on contracts. No coordinator should be poachable after a single year. Three year minimum before they're free game. If they wanna go interview for a head coach job, they have to quit and pay a fine first

That and if you want them before their deal ends must trade a draft pick similar to HCs. I’d also wait till after the season for anyone who’s on a team to get an interview

 

[rockaction]

Howie is awesome and you all should thank every lucky star you have that he's your GM. I hope our GM/coach combo is as effective over the next few years.

 

[rockaction]

HOw about a compromise then? If you poach one after he's been there one year, you give a 2nd, 2 years a 4th.

Second probably is too steep and a fourth is not enough. A third isn't quite enough, either, especially for a wunderkind or old vet. I am very much in favor of making them wait until the end of the Super Bowl, as that seems to inordinately hurt teams that are looking. Then again, that encourages soft contact an rule breaking, so what to do, really?

It's a copycat league.

And I just realized I'm in the Eagles thread. I thought all along this was the Super Bowl thread because of the "SB59" in the title, but Ministry has LIX and this is the Noid, so I'm guessing I'm spending my early morning and yesterday in the Eagles thread. Great. ChiefD even dropped by, though, adding to the confusion. Dang it. Peace and be merry!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

 

[Insein]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

I don't think there was any doubt Dickerson and Jurgens were playing. I'm just hoping they can be effective. KC line is way better than Washington.

 

[unckeyherb]

HOw about a compromise then? If you poach one after he's been there one year, you give a 2nd, 2 years a 4th.

Second probably is too steep and a fourth is not enough. A third isn't quite enough, either, especially for a wunderkind or old vet. I am very much in favor of making them wait until the end of the Super Bowl, as that seems to inordinately hurt teams that are looking. Then again, that encourages soft contact an rule breaking, so what to do, really?

It's a copycat league.

And I just realized I'm in the Eagles thread. I thought all along this was the Super Bowl thread because of the "SB59" in the title, but Ministry has LIX and this is the Noid, so I'm guessing I'm spending my early morning and yesterday in the Eagles thread. Great. ChiefD even dropped by, though, adding to the confusion. Dang it. Peace and be merry!

Its a safe space here friend. Drink it all in.

 

[Insein]

Kellen Moore reportedly did well in Saints interview.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

I don't think there was any doubt Dickerson and Jurgens were playing. I'm just hoping they can be effective. KC line is way better than Washington.

KC offensive line not as good as it was in 2022. Honestly, as I dig into the two teams, I'm getting more and more confident in an Eagles victory. Waiting for week of injury reports for a score prediction.

 

[Terpman22]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

I don't think there was any doubt Dickerson and Jurgens were playing. I'm just hoping they can be effective. KC line is way better than Washington.

KC offensive line not as good as it was in 2022. Honestly, as I dig into the two teams, I'm getting more and more confident in an Eagles victory. Waiting for week of injury reports for a score prediction.

Its Creed Humphrey, then JAG city really from what I have been looking at. The more and more I look this offense is based upon "Mahomes, go do magic"

 

[Insein]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

I don't think there was any doubt Dickerson and Jurgens were playing. I'm just hoping they can be effective. KC line is way better than Washington.

KC offensive line not as good as it was in 2022. Honestly, as I dig into the two teams, I'm getting more and more confident in an Eagles victory. Waiting for week of injury reports for a score prediction.

I was talking about D line

 

[Terpman22]

Mike McCarthy passed on the Saints job.

Seems like we are going to lose Kellen Moore to them now.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Come back, Shane!

 

[Terpman22]

Come back, Shane!

No chance we are getting a top 5 HC to be our OC....

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Come back, Shane!

No chance we are getting a top 5 HC to be our OC....

I know, but, the movie quote.

Saw somebody floated Frank Reich’s name out there. Not sure how I feel about that.

 

[Insein]

Doug's available right?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Kellen Moore reportedly did well in Saints interview.

Really hoping he does what Kingsbury did and just withdraws from it soon

 

[Insein]

Kellen Moore reportedly did well in Saints interview.

Really hoping he does what Kingsbury did and just withdraws from it soon

I think it comes down to money. The situation is awful

 

[Terpman22]

Kellen Moore reportedly did well in Saints interview.

Really hoping he does what Kingsbury did and just withdraws from it soon

Yeah I mean, he could take this job and get fired before they even get into a good cap position bc the roster is so bad.

Just come back here, where success is already sort of baked in, have another good year in 2025, show that Jalen Hurts can be a good passer - you'll get a good HC shot

 

[Snotbubbles]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

I don't think there was any doubt Dickerson and Jurgens were playing. I'm just hoping they can be effective. KC line is way better than Washington.

KC offensive line not as good as it was in 2022. Honestly, as I dig into the two teams, I'm getting more and more confident in an Eagles victory. Waiting for week of injury reports for a score prediction.

Its Creed Humphrey, then JAG city really from what I have been looking at. The more and more I look this offense is based upon "Mahomes, go do magic"

Chiefs OL PFF
Joe Thuney - 79.9
Mike Caliendo - 48.9
Creed Humphrey - 92.8
Trey Smith - 78.8
Juwaan Taylor - 59.9

Eagles OL PFF
Jordan Mailata - 95.8
Landon Dickerson - 79.2
Cam Jurgens - 67.1
Mekhi Becton - 75.2
Lane Johnson - 85.4

Cam Jurgens worries me a bit going up against Chris Jones, especially if his back isn't 100%. It's going to be hard to run between the tackles. But James Cook killed the Chiefs on the edges, I think Barkley will too. Also Hurts on the RPO keepers will get good yardage. I could see both going over 100 yards in the game.

 

[The Noid]

Mike McCarthy passed on the Saints job.

The old, “Let me take my name out of the running for the job I know I’m not getting.”

 

[menobrown]

Mike McCarthy passed on the Saints job.

The old, “Let me take my name out of the running for the job I know I’m not getting.”

I don't think that was the case.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Just heard on the radio, Landon Dickerson will play in the Super Bowl. Looks like our offensive line should be intact for the big game.

I don't think there was any doubt Dickerson and Jurgens were playing. I'm just hoping they can be effective. KC line is way better than Washington.

KC offensive line not as good as it was in 2022. Honestly, as I dig into the two teams, I'm getting more and more confident in an Eagles victory. Waiting for week of injury reports for a score prediction.

It’s Creed Humphrey, then JAG city really from what I have been looking at. The more and more I look this offense is based upon "Mahomes, go do magic"

that JAG RG Joe Thuney is first team All Pro

 

[jasvic]

Another drink of hater-ade.

Reliving the Eagles' NFC Championship Game win through the eyes of Cowboys, Giants, and Commanders fans

How angry were Commanders, Cowboys and Giants fans during the Eagles' win? The message board comments speak for themselves.

www.phillyvoice.com

 

[unckeyherb]

Another drink of hater-ade.

Reliving the Eagles' NFC Championship Game win through the eyes of Cowboys, Giants, and Commanders fans

How angry were Commanders, Cowboys and Giants fans during the Eagles' win? The message board comments speak for themselves.

www.phillyvoice.com

That was hilarious reading.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Another drink of hater-ade.

Reliving the Eagles' NFC Championship Game win through the eyes of Cowboys, Giants, and Commanders fans

How angry were Commanders, Cowboys and Giants fans during the Eagles' win? The message board comments speak for themselves.

www.phillyvoice.com

That was hilarious reading.

Thought I was reading the GDT here.

 

[rockaction]

Speaking of Howie, I found this interesting tidbit from PFF. This is pulled from their listing of the top 100 free agents on the market in 2025. I guess the moral of the story is enjoy him now, because Howie seems to be a premium position kind of guy (unless you can get a Saquon or maybe, this time, a Baun).

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61. LB Zack Baun, Philadelphia Eagles​

We seemingly write this blurb every year for the free-agent rankings, so stop us if you’ve heard this before: The Eagles bought low on a talented but under-utilized off-ball linebacker who went on to have a career year in Philadelphia. Will they extend Baun, the latest example, and keep him in the fold? That’s the blurb we never write. Focusing on Baun, there was nothing fluky about his production in 2024 and little reason to think he can’t continue to play at an extremely high level in a newer role, plus he’ll always have some pass-rush chops to boot.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Speaking of Howie, I found this interesting tidbit from PFF. This is pulled from their listing of the top 100 free agents on the market in 2025. I guess the moral of the story is enjoy him now, because Howie seems to be a premium position kind of guy (unless you can get a Saquon or maybe, this time, a Baun).

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61. LB Zack Baun, Philadelphia Eagles​

We seemingly write this blurb every year for the free-agent rankings, so stop us if you’ve heard this before: The Eagles bought low on a talented but under-utilized off-ball linebacker who went on to have a career year in Philadelphia. Will they extend Baun, the latest example, and keep him in the fold? That’s the blurb we never write. Focusing on Baun, there was nothing fluky about his production in 2024 and little reason to think he can’t continue to play at an extremely high level in a newer role, plus he’ll always have some pass-rush chops to boot.

Here are all the Eagles FA that have significant contributions this season: Josh Sweat, Brandon Graham, Zach Baun, Mekhi Becton, Milton Williams, Isaiah Rodgers, Kenneth Gainwell

Eagles have around $18M in cap space and can restructure contracts to create another $60M if they need it (so potentially ~$77M). I'd bet they'll re-sign Baun and Sweat. BG retires. They let Becton, Williams and Gainwell walk. Maybe they bring back Rodgers, depends on what they do with Slay.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Kellen Moore reportedly did well in Saints interview.

Really hoping he does what Kingsbury did and just withdraws from it soon

Yeah I mean, he could take this job and get fired before they even get into a good cap position bc the roster is so bad.

Just come back here, where success is already sort of baked in, have another good year in 2025, show that Jalen Hurts can be a good passer - you'll get a good HC shot

One thing the saints job does have going for it is that they are pretty patient. I think they are unlikely to knee jerk fire their coach even if it doesn’t go well right away.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Speaking of Howie, I found this interesting tidbit from PFF. This is pulled from their listing of the top 100 free agents on the market in 2025. I guess the moral of the story is enjoy him now, because Howie seems to be a premium position kind of guy (unless you can get a Saquon or maybe, this time, a Baun).

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61. LB Zack Baun, Philadelphia Eagles​

We seemingly write this blurb every year for the free-agent rankings, so stop us if you’ve heard this before: The Eagles bought low on a talented but under-utilized off-ball linebacker who went on to have a career year in Philadelphia. Will they extend Baun, the latest example, and keep him in the fold? That’s the blurb we never write. Focusing on Baun, there was nothing fluky about his production in 2024 and little reason to think he can’t continue to play at an extremely high level in a newer role, plus he’ll always have some pass-rush chops to boot.

I guess I don’t know who all the free agents are but a little surprising to me that an all pro linebacker would be that low, though obviously he doesn’t have a long track record

 

[rockaction]

Speaking of Howie, I found this interesting tidbit from PFF. This is pulled from their listing of the top 100 free agents on the market in 2025. I guess the moral of the story is enjoy him now, because Howie seems to be a premium position kind of guy (unless you can get a Saquon or maybe, this time, a Baun).

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61. LB Zack Baun, Philadelphia Eagles​

We seemingly write this blurb every year for the free-agent rankings, so stop us if you’ve heard this before: The Eagles bought low on a talented but under-utilized off-ball linebacker who went on to have a career year in Philadelphia. Will they extend Baun, the latest example, and keep him in the fold? That’s the blurb we never write. Focusing on Baun, there was nothing fluky about his production in 2024 and little reason to think he can’t continue to play at an extremely high level in a newer role, plus he’ll always have some pass-rush chops to boot.

I guess I don’t know who all the free agents are but a little surprising to me that an all pro linebacker would be that low, though obviously he doesn’t have a long track record

I think PFF and your GM feel the same way about premium positions and positions that aren't. Note the off-ball linebacker comment as if PFF had been asked to change a really stinky diaper. It's definitely something they'd (PFF) like to keep at arm's length. I gather Howie is the same way given his actions (his signings and pay structure), but trying to get that out of him would be like trying to get water out of a rock.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Early betting looking good for the Eagles so far. BetMGM reports a 53-47% split of spread bets favoring the Eagles. 55-45% split of money line bets favoring the Eagles. I always follow the sharp money.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Speaking of Howie, I found this interesting tidbit from PFF. This is pulled from their listing of the top 100 free agents on the market in 2025. I guess the moral of the story is enjoy him now, because Howie seems to be a premium position kind of guy (unless you can get a Saquon or maybe, this time, a Baun).

_________________________

61. LB Zack Baun, Philadelphia Eagles​

We seemingly write this blurb every year for the free-agent rankings, so stop us if you’ve heard this before: The Eagles bought low on a talented but under-utilized off-ball linebacker who went on to have a career year in Philadelphia. Will they extend Baun, the latest example, and keep him in the fold? That’s the blurb we never write. Focusing on Baun, there was nothing fluky about his production in 2024 and little reason to think he can’t continue to play at an extremely high level in a newer role, plus he’ll always have some pass-rush chops to boot.

I guess I don’t know who all the free agents are but a little surprising to me that an all pro linebacker would be that low, though obviously he doesn’t have a long track record

I think PFF and your GM feel the same way about premium positions and positions that aren't. Note the off-ball linebacker comment as if PFF had been asked to change a really stinky diaper. It's definitely something they'd (PFF) like to keep at arm's length. I gather Howie is the same way given his actions (his signings and pay structure), but trying to get that out of him would be like trying to get water out of a rock.

Ok that’s fair, strictly within the off values. I was thinking more of how the open market will value him overall, though I could certainly be wrong about that too.

 

[DJackson10]

But we’re terrible and you won’t see this in national media

Eagles fans nearly double commies fan who “took over Hard Rock Cafe (some Philadelphians didn’t even knew it existed) cancer fundraiser after Sundays game

 

[Terpman22]

Ya know I'm getting a lot of "wow Spags is such a great coach" and I have to push back on that. He is a good coach, when given the talent, but this guy also was the DC that set the record for most yards in a season ever in 2012 w the Saints, and then in 2016 reset that same record with the Giants lol.

Going back 10 years I see the 3 worst defenses Fangio has coached to be 21st, 15th and 14th (and those last 2 were his first 2 years with the Bears, his last 2 they finished 10th and 3rd).

I'm not really worried about Spags really scheming a great game plan in all honesty, he just seems to either have players or not have players. I expect us to be able to exploit this.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Eagles opened Brandon Graham's practice window.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Ya know I'm getting a lot of "wow Spags is such a great coach" and I have to push back on that. He is a good coach, when given the talent, but this guy also was the DC that set the record for most yards in a season ever in 2012 w the Saints, and then in 2016 reset that same record with the Giants lol.

Going back 10 years I see the 3 worst defenses Fangio has coached to be 21st, 15th and 14th (and those last 2 were his first 2 years with the Bears, his last 2 they finished 10th and 3rd).

I'm not really worried about Spags really scheming a great game plan in all honesty, he just seems to either have players or not have players. I expect us to be able to exploit this.

Spags is a great DC. He was, apparently a lousy HC, but he is a great DC. This Chiefs Defense has really good players, but I’d argue they are playing above their talent level.

They play disciplined football and fantastic situational football. I think the Eagles can run on the Chiefs, and if they try to sell out to stop the run- they’ll get killed: by Saquon and Jalen both.

I don’t think Spags is getting too much credit. But I think Vic will be the DC everyone talks about after this game. He is no JG. and there’s no corn-dog routes that are gonna leave Kadarius Toney or JuJu wide open.

 

[Terpman22]

Ya know I'm getting a lot of "wow Spags is such a great coach" and I have to push back on that. He is a good coach, when given the talent, but this guy also was the DC that set the record for most yards in a season ever in 2012 w the Saints, and then in 2016 reset that same record with the Giants lol.

Going back 10 years I see the 3 worst defenses Fangio has coached to be 21st, 15th and 14th (and those last 2 were his first 2 years with the Bears, his last 2 they finished 10th and 3rd).

I'm not really worried about Spags really scheming a great game plan in all honesty, he just seems to either have players or not have players. I expect us to be able to exploit this.

Spags is a great DC. He was, apparently a lousy HC, but he is a great DC. This Chiefs Defense has really good players, but I’d argue they are playing above their talent level.

They play disciplined football and fantastic situational football. I think the Eagles can run on the Chiefs, and if they try to sell out to stop the run- they’ll get killed: by Saquon and Jalen both.

I don’t think Spags is getting too much credit. But I think Vic will be the DC everyone talks about after this game. He is no JG. and there’s no corn-dog routes that are gonna leave Kadarius Toney or JuJu wide open.

I guess we can agree to disagree. You think he is great, I think he is good, I just feel if he doesn't have the talent, he just can't get the job done, and if the talent is bad, he sets all time records for futility. Stats back this latter part up at least. He is certainly propped up a little bit by the fact that he has Mahomes operating the offense on the other side.

Chiefs Defense Ranks Under Spags:

2019 - 17 (won Super Bowl)
2020 - 16
2021 - 27
2022 - 12 (won Super Bowl)
2023 - 2nd (won Super Bowl)
2024 - 9th (?)

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Ya know I'm getting a lot of "wow Spags is such a great coach" and I have to push back on that. He is a good coach, when given the talent, but this guy also was the DC that set the record for most yards in a season ever in 2012 w the Saints, and then in 2016 reset that same record with the Giants lol.

Going back 10 years I see the 3 worst defenses Fangio has coached to be 21st, 15th and 14th (and those last 2 were his first 2 years with the Bears, his last 2 they finished 10th and 3rd).

I'm not really worried about Spags really scheming a great game plan in all honesty, he just seems to either have players or not have players. I expect us to be able to exploit this.

Spags is a great DC. He was, apparently a lousy HC, but he is a great DC. This Chiefs Defense has really good players, but I’d argue they are playing above their talent level.

They play disciplined football and fantastic situational football. I think the Eagles can run on the Chiefs, and if they try to sell out to stop the run- they’ll get killed: by Saquon and Jalen both.

I don’t think Spags is getting too much credit. But I think Vic will be the DC everyone talks about after this game. He is no JG. and there’s no corn-dog routes that are gonna leave Kadarius Toney or JuJu wide open.

I guess we can agree to disagree. You think he is great, I think he is good, I just feel if he doesn't have the talent, he just can't get the job done, and if the talent is bad, he sets all time records for futility. Stats back this latter part up at least. He is certainly propped up a little bit by the fact that he has Mahomes operating the offense on the other side.

Chiefs Defense Ranks Under Spags:

2019 - 17 (won Super Bowl)
2020 - 16
2021 - 27
2022 - 12 (won Super Bowl)
2023 - 2nd (won Super Bowl)
2024 - 9th (?)

Mahomes and the Offense carried the team for a few years, but the last couple of years, the D has carried them. Especially in the regular season.

 

[ChiefD]

I just feel if he doesn't have the talent, he just can't get the job done, and if the talent is bad, he sets all time records for futility.

To be fair, I think you could say that for every coach in every sport from the beginning of time.

 

[Terpman22]

I just feel if he doesn't have the talent, he just can't get the job done, and if the talent is bad, he sets all time records for futility.

To be fair, I think you could say that for every coach in every sport from the beginning of time.

Sure can. The great great coaches are the ones that take elite players to elite levels, I'm just not sure Spags is one of those guys is all. The Chiefs defenses the last few years have been very good though, you can't deny that at the same time.

 

[unckeyherb]

Ya know I'm getting a lot of "wow Spags is such a great coach" and I have to push back on that. He is a good coach, when given the talent, but this guy also was the DC that set the record for most yards in a season ever in 2012 w the Saints, and then in 2016 reset that same record with the Giants lol.

Going back 10 years I see the 3 worst defenses Fangio has coached to be 21st, 15th and 14th (and those last 2 were his first 2 years with the Bears, his last 2 they finished 10th and 3rd).

I'm not really worried about Spags really scheming a great game plan in all honesty, he just seems to either have players or not have players. I expect us to be able to exploit this.

Spags is a great DC. He was, apparently a lousy HC, but he is a great DC. This Chiefs Defense has really good players, but I’d argue they are playing above their talent level.

They play disciplined football and fantastic situational football. I think the Eagles can run on the Chiefs, and if they try to sell out to stop the run- they’ll get killed: by Saquon and Jalen both.

I don’t think Spags is getting too much credit. But I think Vic will be the DC everyone talks about after this game. He is no JG. and there’s no corn-dog routes that are gonna leave Kadarius Toney or JuJu wide open.

Was listening to Jason Kelce on the radio today and he said that one of things that Spags is really, really good at is disguising blitzes. Said that while he is very good at bringing pressure from spots where you might not be expecting it, IF you can diagnose it correctly, it leaves the defense open to quick hitters that can turn into homeruns because so much personnel is devoted to the initial disguise. Thinking Saquon, Davonta or AJ on some short stop routes or even bubble screens.

 

[unckeyherb]

Eagles opened Brandon Graham's practice window.

This makes my day. Not a guarantee to play, but if he can go, the emotional boost he gives is worth it alone.

 

[JetMaxx]

Ya know I'm getting a lot of "wow Spags is such a great coach" and I have to push back on that. He is a good coach, when given the talent, but this guy also was the DC that set the record for most yards in a season ever in 2012 w the Saints, and then in 2016 reset that same record with the Giants lol.

Going back 10 years I see the 3 worst defenses Fangio has coached to be 21st, 15th and 14th (and those last 2 were his first 2 years with the Bears, his last 2 they finished 10th and 3rd).

I'm not really worried about Spags really scheming a great game plan in all honesty, he just seems to either have players or not have players. I expect us to be able to exploit this.

Spags is a great DC. He was, apparently a lousy HC, but he is a great DC. This Chiefs Defense has really good players, but I’d argue they are playing above their talent level.

They play disciplined football and fantastic situational football. I think the Eagles can run on the Chiefs, and if they try to sell out to stop the run- they’ll get killed: by Saquon and Jalen both.

I don’t think Spags is getting too much credit. But I think Vic will be the DC everyone talks about after this game. He is no JG. and there’s no corn-dog routes that are gonna leave Kadarius Toney or JuJu wide open.

Was listening to Jason Kelce on the radio today and he said that one of things that Spags is really, really good at is disguising blitzes. Said that while he is very good at bringing pressure from spots where you might not be expecting it, IF you can diagnose it correctly, it leaves the defense open to quick hitters that can turn into homeruns because so much personnel is devoted to the initial disguise. Thinking Saquon, Davonta or AJ on some short stop routes or even bubble screens.

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that they put up 35 against his defense two years ago without Barkley