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*** 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers: one and done again. (23 Viewers)
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irish eyes
Footballguy
Since Mike Thomas hasn't even been a blip on the radar, I'd say he's no better than what they already have.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
LOL.. Yeah.. Wait until you have to stand longer inline for security reasons.JFC, of all the games I go to it has to be the one these two idiots are attending.
I wonder which one is booed louder.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Traffic is likely to be affected too.LOL.. Yeah.. Wait until you have to stand longer inline for security reasons.JFC, of all the games I go to it has to be the one these two idiots are attending.
I wonder which one is booed louder.
Back to the game: I still expect Fields to start, especially with another starting lineman going down
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
If Wilson starts, Fields will probably be in by midway through QTR #2. Russ is going to die behind that OL. Hope Ciara doubled down on his STD/LTD insurance this week.
Grid71
Footballguy
As much as Coach T was smiling ear to ear in Vegas putting up 32 points, I’m surprised he is making a QB change. Team is 4-2 despite the OL issues. Fields has made mistakes for sure but he elevates the team.
First game action for the Wilson to Wilson connection. Guys in the broadcast booth will be dying to talk about it.
First game action for the Wilson to Wilson connection. Guys in the broadcast booth will be dying to talk about it.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Rumors starting about trading for Mike Williams, but he's been having catching & route issues, not sure what that would be worth.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
He could end up just getting cut. So I bet any trade is like a 6th or 7th trade/swap.
Hopkins might be the move though.
steelers1080
Footballguy
There was also rumors about DK. That would obviously be the most costly play, but also the greatest weapon.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Hope they have Russ hand off for the whole first series because if he gets sacked, the boo birds will be out in full force
Judge Smails
Footballguy
He could be sacked in warmups. Over/under is 5 for the first game
AB may try to take out that dancing fool. CTE is realLOL.. Yeah.. Wait until you have to stand longer inline for security reasons.JFC, of all the games I go to it has to be the one these two idiots are attending.
I wonder which one is booed louder.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Dulac seems to think that Wilson is going to turn the passing game around and is pretty certain to get the start vs Jets.
I think it is dumb to change to an immobile quarterback with a banged up oline against a good defense. I would start Fields and put in Wilson in the 2nd half if necessary.
I think it is dumb to change to an immobile quarterback with a banged up oline against a good defense. I would start Fields and put in Wilson in the 2nd half if necessary.
I think it’s a great idea to start Russ.
The O looks every bit as bad as last year. Russ may add a spark. No downside that I can see.
irish eyes
Footballguy
If Russ plays the whole game, minimum 8 sacks. This could be very ugly for the Steelers.
Godbrother I'm with you.
I'm skeptical about Russell's ability to ignite any momentum. The offensive line is down three starters, and Arthur's run-heavy scheme isn’t much help, given the Steelers’ run game has been virtually nonexistent, aside from Justin Fields. Najee had a decent game last week, but overall, he’s been underwhelming. Van Jefferson and Scotty Miller aren't reliable WR2 options. Last year, Russell's slow progressions led to him being sacked too often.
I'm skeptical about Russell's ability to ignite any momentum. The offensive line is down three starters, and Arthur's run-heavy scheme isn’t much help, given the Steelers’ run game has been virtually nonexistent, aside from Justin Fields. Najee had a decent game last week, but overall, he’s been underwhelming. Van Jefferson and Scotty Miller aren't reliable WR2 options. Last year, Russell's slow progressions led to him being sacked too often.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I think turning away from Fields would be one of those monumental moments a franchise looks back on and agrees they made a mistake. You continue to see what you got with him. Zero percent Russell is the future. Even if it's 5% that Fields is the future you take that chance here. Imo
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Yinzers' favorite Steeler for as long as I can remember has quite frequently been "Insert Backup Steelers QB Name Here", so if Fields is benched they'll be clamoring for him in two weeks anyway.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Seems like the Steelers are looking the gift horse in the mouth here.
I've been betting the Steelers to much success this year and thought Sunday night would be a good spot against an overrated Jets squad.
Russel has been awful since he left Seattle and there is no real reason to think he can turn it around behind this abysmal line. Starting him on Sunday is a very stupid move.
I've been betting the Steelers to much success this year and thought Sunday night would be a good spot against an overrated Jets squad.
Russel has been awful since he left Seattle and there is no real reason to think he can turn it around behind this abysmal line. Starting him on Sunday is a very stupid move.
Correct
4-2 is 4-2
We need those legs just to keep the D off the field enough so when they are on the field they affect the scoreboard
There are at least 3-4 fake Najee runs that can be Fields getting 8-10 or even breaking a long run and at least 3-4 times he bolts when Jones brain farts.
That’s 7-8 plays where we can get the first or even maybe make a,game changing play.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Agreed. This Steelers team is not going to transform into a potent passing game with these receivers, this banged up offensive line and this OC with any of the quarterbacks on the roster.
Stick with the guy that can use his legs to keep drives alive when things break down and is a threat in short yardage situations.
If and when Fields implodes then give Wilson a shot.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
By all accounts there is no controversy. The players really like both Russ and Fields and the two of them are attached at the hip. The belief likely is Russ can make better throws and decisions which in theory helps the offense open up. Fields has had some decent runs, especially red zone, but nothing game changing imho. Russ making better decisions may mitigate the need for some of those. And I expect Fields will still get into the game in certain situations anyway.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
So just waste another great defense and another season of TJ Watt being the best defensive player on the planet instead of seeing if Wilson could improve the 28th best passing offense in the NFL?
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I mean they are 4-2 with this approach. When u say wasting do u mean a long run in playoffs or it's a waste?
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
That happened when they didn't add another WR. Fields isn't the problem. So, replacing him isn't going to fix anything. Unless you replace him with a top 5 QB. Russ isn't that anymore.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
With the Titans releasing Jamal Adams, per his request, they are signaling sell-off time. Maybe Hopkins is a legitimate option.
Statorama
gangster
As a Saints fan who watched him last year, I haven't seen a player less interested in playing football since....well....Deshaun Watson (maybe Albert Haynesworth before that).
I think he's still got juice, but I'm not sure there's any motivation for him to squeeze. He's got 10's of millions in the bank
Edit to add: I got MT and Marques Colston confused on the ring thing, so if it were a complete slam dunk (Andy Reid calls him and says he only needs to do one light practice one day a week) he might come back for a sure thing ring.
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ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Statorama
gangster
Oh heck, I always got him and Marques Colston confused. One got the ring, one got the money.
bryhamm
Footballguy
Did you see the LV game? Fields missed a LOT of open receivers. Yes, we got the win but it wasn't because of his passing abilities.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Maybe Tomlin is looking at the bigger picture knowing having no passing game to speak of means another season will end with nothing but some regular season wins.
Maybe he wants to see if Wilson can elevate this glaring issue. Maybe he's watching game film where Fields is not pulling the trigger when plays are there to be made and being inaccurate on other plays. Maybe he's also looking at Pickens and wondering when that ticking time bomb will really go off if he doesn't find answers soon.
The passing game ranks 28th, the offense ranks 22nd in yards per drive, 19th on 3rd down conversion rate, and 20th on red zone TD rate. The short field the D keeps giving them might dry up, so one needs to know if the team can have longer sustained drives which is needed to advance if they happen to make the playoffs.
I'm not advocating for a change at QB because I think both are limited in their own way, but I can see why Tomlin is at least pondering it. There are obvious pros and cons, but it's possible he just wants to see for himself.
Maybe he wants to see if Wilson can elevate this glaring issue. Maybe he's watching game film where Fields is not pulling the trigger when plays are there to be made and being inaccurate on other plays. Maybe he's also looking at Pickens and wondering when that ticking time bomb will really go off if he doesn't find answers soon.
The passing game ranks 28th, the offense ranks 22nd in yards per drive, 19th on 3rd down conversion rate, and 20th on red zone TD rate. The short field the D keeps giving them might dry up, so one needs to know if the team can have longer sustained drives which is needed to advance if they happen to make the playoffs.
I'm not advocating for a change at QB because I think both are limited in their own way, but I can see why Tomlin is at least pondering it. There are obvious pros and cons, but it's possible he just wants to see for himself.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Because he very well could be the current guy on the roster that gives them the best chance to win? Doomed? Well if Super Bowl is the bar, then I agree that they are doomed no matter who they start.
Blick
Footballguy
Improvement over last year should be the goal, right? Maybe a playoff win? Without a threat of downfield passing, more and more pressure is put on the running game and defense. This team looks exactly like last year's team at this point with the exception of a running back playing quarterback.
At least Wilson was a quality NFL QB at one point in his career. Fields will never be that.
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I feel like a broken record. The offensive line is in shambles. Zach Frazier is facing multiple weeks absence if lucky he could be back after the week 9 bye. James Daniels, Troy Fautanu, and Nate Herbig are all out for the season. The Steeler's will be fielding their 3rd string center. I was listening to The Fan will driving. During my listening I didn't hear them mention the potential starting center. There's not only a good chance that the 3rd string center struggles but also Russell. You could easily argue that George Pickens needs to step up more. But I'd argue that Omar needs to step up even more so. Because Van Jefferson, Miller, Austin whose shown some promise, and whomever they dress as 5th WR are not up to snuff.
Good luck wanting to pass more when the Steeler's rank 30th in running attempts with hot garbage WRs and with Arthur Smith Jr's offense. Hoke mentioned that maybe the Steeler's are seeing more consistency passing the ball in practice from RW.
Good luck wanting to pass more when the Steeler's rank 30th in running attempts with hot garbage WRs and with Arthur Smith Jr's offense. Hoke mentioned that maybe the Steeler's are seeing more consistency passing the ball in practice from RW.
Blick
Footballguy
It truly is a shame. Outside of WR, they were set up pretty well to start the season. The O-line injuries are devastating. I'm not sure if their goal is to pass more, as much as it may be to pass more effectively. If Wilson doesn't get killed, he has to be better than Fields in that department. They have to do a better job to hitting that few opportunities they get downfield.
Justin Fields is not only younger than Kenny Pickett but leaps and bounds better. Steeler's last year were 23rd in rushing attempts. This year 30th. Granted Justin Fields adds to the run game. But Arthur Smith Jr was using his play calling to rush at times when it hasn't made sense. The Fan mentioned that Justin Fields stats have looked better than Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott to name a few. They were going by overall TDs and interceptions.
Steelers aren't going to the Super Bowl not with this offensive line, WR core, and I'd argue OC.
Steelers aren't going to the Super Bowl not with this offensive line, WR core, and I'd argue OC.
steelcityman
Footballguy
Frazier is week to week, but is an ankle sprain so who knows. I'd say the one thing I will hope for is Pickens to get the ball more. I imagine they will allow Wilson to throw downfield more, cause, you know, he was in super bowls a decade ago. Apparently NOTHING has changed in his game since then. If the offense stays the same, Fields is better choice.
Steelers will have a new offense next year, QB1, RB1, WR2,3,4. I'd trade up in the draft to get a real QB. Sign Higgins, Jordan Mason and Elijah Moore, to go along with Roman Wilson and Jaylen Warren. Drop $45M on offense and a 1st rd pick.
Its tough being a Steeler fan the last few years. Every week its another injury, a guy is awful or someone acts a fool.
Steelers will have a new offense next year, QB1, RB1, WR2,3,4. I'd trade up in the draft to get a real QB. Sign Higgins, Jordan Mason and Elijah Moore, to go along with Roman Wilson and Jaylen Warren. Drop $45M on offense and a 1st rd pick.
Its tough being a Steeler fan the last few years. Every week its another injury, a guy is awful or someone acts a fool.
Every year something changes in someone's game. Everything is constantly changing teammates, coaches, owners, weight, speed, vision, nothing but winning seasons in Seattle except his last year, nothing but losing seasons in Denver with arguably a better WR core. 2021 and 2022 were substandard years for RW.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I think Tomlin realizes that if they want to have a long run in the playoffs they need to have better QB play. I don't know if they can get it from Russell Wilson or not? Neither does Tomlin. He knows he's not getting it from Fields.
irish eyes
Footballguy
When they get humiliated Sunday night after 10+ sacks of Russ, we'll just hear more of Tomlin's stupid word salad.
Unfortunately I only saw the condensed „highlights“ due to my time difference. I saw the last 3 weeks though.
I find it hard to believe that Wilson is a better QB than Fields behind that line. And since we are not winning the SB and Wilson is old, I would rather ride with Fields to check if he could be the longterm solution. To me there are bigger issues than the QB play this season and benching Fields would kinda make him a scapegoat which he doesn’t deserve.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Hearing calls about Kupp, Williams, and Kirk have occurred. Hopkins they kicked tires on a week or two ago, but seems to have gone silent there. Nothing imminent.
bryhamm
Footballguy
Fields is 10x better behind that line from a scrambling pov. But I find it hard to believe that Wilson won't be better from a throwing accuracy pov. But, not sure if that will equate to better offense and/or continued winning.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Broderick Jones with the worst PFF rating on our entire offense. Ugh.
Grid71
Footballguy
Don’t need PFF to know he is struggling. He is athletic and drafted for his potential. Could easily take a few years to develop.
